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I meet all the constitutional quals to run for the president of the US.
Here's a rough outline of my platform/"resume":

I seek to largely and loosely follow the models set forth by Theodore Roosevelt and Barry Goldwater.

I will seek to withdraw all US forces from Iraq, in an orderly fashion, within six months to one year of my taking office. Furthermore, I will engage in extensive diplomatic efforts with all concerned parties.

I will seek to increase US military forces to a minimum of double the current size.

I will seek to abolish all tariffs, farm subsidies, and other forms of corporate welfare.

I will abolish the FCC, DEA, and BATF.

I will end the war on drugs, at a minimum decriminalising cannabis, peyote, "magic mushrooms", and similar drugs.

I will order an end to "don't ask/don't tell". All persons wishing to serve in the military shall be able do do so.

I will order combat arms to be opened to women.

I will seek to repeal the Selective Service act.

I will introduce a constitutional amendment ensuring the right to privacy.

I will seek to repeal the federal Defense of Marriage Act, and propose an amendment allowing the contractual partyicipants to define marriage.

I will seek to transfer all BLM properties to the National Park System.

I will order a stop to any further economic expansion or exploitation of national wildlands.

Edit Additional issues:
I will seek to clean up money politics

I will end the embargo on Cuba

I will introduce legislation to repeal the Patriot Act, the Military Commissions Act, and the recent amendment to FISA.

I will introduce a true flat tax with absolutely no exceptions (that includes any form of income including capital gains).

I will abolish, cut back, or otherwise reform many government agencies a la this post (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7628255&postcount=46).

Would you vote for me?

Poll options:
A tl;dr
B Eligible US voter, yes
C Eligible US voter, no
D Eligible US voter, maybe
E Not an eligible US voter, yes
F Not an eligible US voter, no
G Not an eligible US voter, maybe
H Other

where can I donate money to your campaign? :D

Why would you withdraw troops and increase diplomatic communications but at the same time double military spending?

Why would you withdraw troops and increase diplomatic communications but at the same time double military spending?

I really don't have much of a problem with his platform except for that one plank.

I was under the impression that USA elections weren't about party platforms and policies, but about popularity, charisma and the person. So, in the spirit of conforming to that, I couldn't vote for you Daistallia. I'd have to vote for the pretty candidate who hopefully has a gay sex scandal or two or three or me in his closet.

where can I donate money to your campaign? :D

Here ya go: noneoftheabove@montgomerybrewster.com ;)

Why would you withdraw troops and increase diplomatic communications but at the same time double military spending?

My apolgies and a good catch. That was supposed to be withdraw from Iraq, but it got lost in my editing.

As for doubling forces, the current security environment requires a reversal of the gutting of the US military that has taken place since the "peace dividend". We need more boots on the ground in order to address situations like Afghanistan. And one of the primary failures of Iraq was not having sufficient forces available.

Withdraw military from Iraq, or worldwide?

If it were me, I'd change your "increase the military" plank to a "create a peacekeeping force separate from the military" plank, but otherwise I agree with you...

How much can you offer me in exchange for the illegal Irish immigrant vote?

I was under the impression that USA elections weren't about party platforms and policies, but about popularity, charisma and the person. So, in the spirit of conforming to that, I couldn't vote for you Daistallia. I'd have to vote for the pretty candidate who hopefully has a gay sex scandal or two or three or me in his closet.

So if I put on makeup to make myself pretty and hide you in my closet...

So if I put on makeup to make myself pretty and hide you in my closet...

... get my foreign back all wet, and then we'll be talking.

I will seek to increase US military forces to a minimum of double the current size.

I will seek to transfer all BLM properties to the National Park System.

I will order a stop to any further economic expansion or exploitation of national wildlands.


Aside from these points and maybe the Teddy Roosevelt/Goldwater thing (I don't know much about them) I would vote for you. Particularly in the ending of corporate welfare, ending the war on drugs, and the abolition of the FCC, DEA, and BATF. However, I could not vote for spending more money on anything, particularly the military. I voted for option F.

How much can you offer me in exchange for the illegal Irish immigrant vote?

Zilch. This leads to another plank: I will seek to clean up money politics.

Below are the reasons why I wouldn't.

I will seek to withdraw all US forces, in an orderly fashion, within six months to one year of my taking office.


Not realistic, also a generally bad idea IMO.


I will seek to abolish all tariffs, farm subsidies, and other forms of corporate welfare.


I would agree with this in theory/idealistically, but I don't think it will achieve the desired effect.


I will abolish the FCC, DEA, and BATF.


I think the BATF should stay, at least for it's regulation of explosives and lethal firearms.

Zilch. This leads to another plank: I will seek to clean up money politics.

An uncorrupt politician? Madness In before SPARTAAAAAAAAA

... get my foreign back all wet, and then we'll be talking.

:::Tosses a water balloon at Fass:::

Aside from these points and maybe the Teddy Roosevelt/Goldwater thing (I don't know much about them) I would vote for you. Particularly in the ending of corporate welfare, ending the war on drugs, and the abolition of the FCC, DEA, and BATF. However, I could not vote for spending more money on anything, particularly the military. I voted for option F.

TR: Trust buster, conservationist, nobel peace lauriate, 1st pres to entertaine a black man at the white house, author of 200+ books, real live intellectual, and a fighting man who honestly put his ass on the line in warfare.

Goldwater: father of the real modern conservatives, antithesi8s of the Bushista neo-cons, USAAF pilot who flew "the hump" into China, founding member of the Az NAACP, etc.

:::Tosses a water balloon at Fass:::

This is exactly why you, sir, are no Clinton.

Double the size of the US military?!

*votes for opposition* :p

Wasn't Goldwater a bastard?

i don't believe there is any need for the US to have an even bigger military, so no. besides, aren't the armed services having trouble recruiting enough to maintain the current level anyway?

n besides, aren't the armed services having trouble recruiting enough to maintain the current level anyway?

i believe so

That's a yesser of two (or three) evils, I suppose. I guess it depends who you would be up against.

One question: If you get elected, can I has cheezburger?

This is exactly why you, sir, are no Clinton.

Thank the wonders of the mechanistic universe for that!

Double the size of the US military?!

*votes for opposition* :p

Yes indeed I said double. The current manpower is entierly insufficient to meet potential threats. The lack of sufficient manpower is one of several reasons we are loosing (have lost) Iraq and Afghanistan.

Wasn't Goldwater a bastard?

I never tire of the great Barry: "I think every good Christian should line up to kick Jerry Falwell in the ass."

:D

One question: If you get elected, can I has cheezburger?

If you buy it yourself...

what do you mean by I will order combat arms to be opened to women.

does it mean you let them take a tank out for shopping

what do you mean by I will order combat arms to be opened to women.

does it mean you let them take a tank out for shopping

Currently women are not allowed to serve in infantry, armor, artillery, or other combat arms. I will change that.

Why should I vote for the lesser evil?

Currently women are not allowed to serve in infantry, armor, artillery, or other combat arms. I will change that.

then that should combat roles not arms :rolleyes:

and you think it's a good idea to let a woman into a foxhole with a man, lordi thinks what happens on a cold winter night on some front line somewhere

Ther solution is not to increase the size of the US military, but to withdraw from excess policing (e.g. Japan and Germany) and wars that have clearly lost (Iraq). Let the UN handle the first, the EU the second, and forget about the third.

then that should combat roles not arms :rolleyes:

and you think it's a good idea to let a woman into a foxhole with a man, lordi thinks what happens on a cold winter night on some front line somewhereWhy would that be a problem?

Why would that be a problem?

work out the number of front line troops you lose due to beening knocked up in a war that been going for sometime

it may be a small percent but in a war that been going for sometime it adds up some how

well i see several little somethings that would be VERY interesting to see how you would attempt to pull them off. i'd consider the voting for this just to watch and see what came of them.

eliminating the federal communications commision entirely is one example with implications i kind of doubt have been entirely considered, but as i say, how they palyed out would certainly be fun to watch.

without something to take the roll of ANY of its functions, ANYONE could radiate any sort of electromagnetic signal they felt like and could assemble the tecnology to generate it, on any frequency or combination of frequencies or width of frequency spectrum, at any signal strength.

thus would play all sorts of lovely havoc with a whole raft of existing assumptions, by again, it just might be fun to see. it would certain frustrate the efforts of any single source and viewpoint of propiganda. i suspect you'd have a whole corporate mafiosi hit specialty of skill in competing industries going arround blowin up each other's transmitters.

but the life of a mobile pirate would be truely grand.

and i CAN see, eliminate a WHOLE BUNCH of what it all too much actually does. you wouldn't have to be a millionaire, just know how to use and make the equipement and keep somone else from destroying it or ripping it off.

of course who the hell needs one way mass media anyway. i know i damd sure don't. but that's not the only thing this would play hob with though. forget cell phones and wifi in the chaos of an electromagnetic spectrum free for all.

yes i would like to see some of the other interesting real resaults of some of these proposed policies.

i haven't studied yet all of them in detail, just that particular one sort of jumped out at me in a casual scanning of them.

i think a lot, maybe most of them, are good ideas, and as i say, i would not oppose this one. just be real qurious to see what became of it.

=^^=
.../\...

work out the number of front line troops you lose due to beening knocked up in a war that been going for sometime

it may be a small percent but in a war that been going for sometime it adds up some howUnless birthcontrol and safe sex isn't permitted in the US army (and well... all things considered, I suppose that wouldn't be surprising), I don't understand why that number would change?

i would also not advise nor trust turning blm land over to the park service, nor the mining nor timbering industry. might i humbly suggest instead, turning the administration of such lands back over to the 'elders' of tribal cultures indiginous to them?

=^^=
.../\...

Unless birthcontrol and safe sex isn't permitted in the US army (and well... all things considered, I suppose that wouldn't be surprising), I don't understand why that number would change?

and you wont if you never studied war

and you wont if you never studied warOr you could just say "You's stoopid and I's not gunna tell you". But just in case that's not what you meant, let me take the opportunity to encourage you to explain.

Or you could just say "You's stoopid and I's not gunna tell you". But just in case that's not what you meant, let me take the opportunity to encourage you to explain.
small things add up in long bloody wars

like when you could of save a large number of troops from a area that about to fall and use them on a different front where they would help you hold on to it is one thing i can think of

I will seek to withdraw all US forces from Iraq, in an orderly fashion, within six months to one year of my taking office. Furthermore, I will engage in extensive diplomatic efforts with all concerned parties.

I will order a stop to any further economic expansion or exploitation of national wildlands.

These are tho only two things you'd do I support. What the hell are you smoking?

I meet all the constitutional quals to run for the president of the US.
Here's a rough outline of my platform/"resume":

I seek to largely and loosely follow the models set forth by Theodore Roosevelt and Barry Goldwater.

I will seek to withdraw all US forces from Iraq, in an orderly fashion, within six months to one year of my taking office. Furthermore, I will engage in extensive diplomatic efforts with all concerned parties.

I will seek to increase US military forces to a minimum of double the current size.

I will seek to abolish all tariffs, farm subsidies, and other forms of corporate welfare.

I will abolish the FCC, DEA, and BATF.

I will end the war on drugs, at a minimum decriminalising cannabis, peyote, "magic mushrooms", and similar drugs.

I will order an end to "don't ask/don't tell". All persons wishing to serve in the military shall be able do do so.

I will order combat arms to be opened to women.

I will seek to repeal the Selective Service act.

I will introduce a constitutional amendment ensuring the right to privacy.

I will seek to repeal the federal Defense of Marriage Act, and propose an amendment allowing the contractual partyicipants to define marriage.

I will seek to transfer all BLM properties to the National Park System.

I will order a stop to any further economic expansion or exploitation of national wildlands.

Would you vote for me?

Poll options:
A tl;dr
B Eligible US voter, yes
C Eligible US voter, no
D Eligible US voter, maybe
E Not an eligible US voter, yes
F Not an eligible US voter, no
G Not an eligible US voter, maybe
H Other

I'd vote for you, because I care about issues. But my vote would be canceled out by someone who likes the other guy's ties.

small things add up in long bloody wars

like when you could of save a large number of troops from a area that about to fall and use them on a different front where they would help you hold on to it is one thing i can think ofI'd address your argument, but apparently I really am stupid, because I have no idea what you're trying to say here...?

EDIT: And by the way, I would have voted B, because that letter reminds me of ass. But as we've just seen, I'm stupid, so I clickied D instead. I have, of course, not a clue what either's supposed to stand for, because that would've meant I had to read shit. And real men (tm) don't do thaat.

Why should I vote for the lesser evil?

You shouldn't. You should vote for me instead.

then that should combat roles not arms :rolleyes:

Err... no. Infantry, armor, artillery, etc. are properly known as combat arms.

and you think it's a good idea to let a woman into a foxhole with a man, lordi thinks what happens on a cold winter night on some front line somewhere

Women are allowed in combat support arms that frequently end up in combat. Why keep them out of the combat arms?

Note: I will do away with separate physical fitness standards.

Ther solution is not to increase the size of the US military, but to withdraw from excess policing (e.g. Japan and Germany) and wars that have clearly lost (Iraq). Let the UN handle the first, the EU the second, and forget about the third.

Even if all forces stationed in Germany, Korea, and Japan had been withdrawn prior to entry into Iraq (somrthing which I would not do, for strategic reasons) there would have been insufficient forces available.

well i see several little somethings that would be VERY interesting to see how you would attempt to pull them off. i'd consider the voting for this just to watch and see what came of them.

eliminating the federal communications commision entirely is one example with implications i kind of doubt have been entirely considered, but as i say, how they palyed out would certainly be fun to watch.

without something to take the roll of ANY of its functions, ANYONE could radiate any sort of electromagnetic signal they felt like and could assemble the tecnology to generate it, on any frequency or combination of frequencies or width of frequency spectrum, at any signal strength.

thus would play all sorts of lovely havoc with a whole raft of existing assumptions, by again, it just might be fun to see. it would certain frustrate the efforts of any single source and viewpoint of propiganda. i suspect you'd have a whole corporate mafiosi hit specialty of skill in competing industries going arround blowin up each other's transmitters.

but the life of a mobile pirate would be truely grand.

and i CAN see, eliminate a WHOLE BUNCH of what it all too much actually does. you wouldn't have to be a millionaire, just know how to use and make the equipement and keep somone else from destroying it or ripping it off.

of course who the hell needs one way mass media anyway. i know i damd sure don't. but that's not the only thing this would play hob with though. forget cell phones and wifi in the chaos of an electromagnetic spectrum free for all.

yes i would like to see some of the other interesting real resaults of some of these proposed policies.

i haven't studied yet all of them in detail, just that particular one sort of jumped out at me in a casual scanning of them.

i think a lot, maybe most of them, are good ideas, and as i say, i would not oppose this one. just be real qurious to see what became of it.

=^^=
.../\...

Here are some ideas addressing killing off the FCC:
http://www.amazon.com/Law-Disorder-Cyberspace-Abolish-Telecosm/dp/0195116143
http://www.slate.com/id/2157734/

i would also not advise nor trust turning blm land over to the park service, nor the mining nor timbering industry. might i humbly suggest instead, turning the administration of such lands back over to the 'elders' of tribal cultures indiginous to them?

=^^=
.../\...

In my experience, the NPS has shown better stewardship than the BLM. The land ceretainly isn't going to the monsterous NFS, and no way in hell is it going to mining interests.

These are tho only two things you'd do I support. What the hell are you smoking?

Nothing - smoking and asthma don't agree too well. I can promise that I won't smoke anything while in office. I will however, use a vaporizer in conjunction with ending prohibition.

Oh, and this brings me to another plank:
I will end the embargo on Cuba.

Err... no. Infantry, armor, artillery, etc. are properly known as combat arms.


only your army would call it something different

stupid

you really like calling yourself that don't you seeing you keep using and i never said it

I would vote for ya, better then these other fucktards running for office.

you really like calling yourself that don't you seeing you keep using and i never said itI was trying to encourage you to explain yourself in plain English, without accidentally antagonizing you by remarking on how remarkably similar to gibberish your last post was. But perhaps that was stupid of me ;)

One of the poll options was B, and I like Bees so I picked that one.
So, now . . .
*reads the OP*
It appears that I have entered a legally-binding-on-the-Internets agreement to vote for you. Good job, sir.

I will order a stop to any further economic expansion or exploitation of national wildlands.
Wait, what?!

...........

HAHAHAhahahahahahaha.

only your army would call it something different

You're an Aussie, IIRC.... Let's check and see what the Australian army calls them... Is the Australian Department of Defense an acceptale source?

The four combat arms are: Armour, Artillery, Engineers and Infantry.
http://www.defence.gov.au/adfpp2004/options/option05.htm

LOL

Repeal Patriot Act please.

Repeal Patriot Act please.

Will do.

Along with the Military Commissions Act and the recent amendment to FISA.

You're an Aussie, IIRC.... Let's check and see what the Australian army calls them... Is the Australian Department of Defense an acceptale source?


http://www.defence.gov.au/adfpp2004/options/option05.htm

LOL

what said there not said in life it self
04 hell when do they ever get around to up dating things

what said there not said in life it self
And I'm sure you have something that shows this, right?

what said there not said in life it self
04 hell when do they ever get around to up dating things

Army Combat Arms, Army All Corps, Safety (for specific high priority areas such as noise and working in confined spaces), Logistics, Life Support Maintenance, Paralegal, Medical Technician, Combat Systems Operators, Work Divers, Survival, Public Affairs, Defence Cadets, Parachuting
http://www.governmentskills.com.au/content/view/314/561/

Army Combat Arms Training Centre
http://www.regiments.org/regiments/australia/lists/schools.htm

The higher ranking of these two units, the Australian Staff Corps was formed on 1 October 1920 and included all the officers of the combat arms.
http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/gi_0199-3562879/Out-of-Empire-an-introduction.html

A project has commenced to enable physical employment standards to be developed for the Army's combat arms employment categories and the Air Force's Airfield Defence Guards.
http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Previousproducts/A85B7D2C9C2DDDF6CA256DEA00053A60?opendocument

Harris, MB (1988). “Is There a Soviet Intelligence Threat to the ADF?” Combat Arms Journal 1.
http://www.unisanet.unisa.edu.au/staff/Homepage.asp?Name=Michael.Harris

Do I need to continue showing that it's the term used by the Aus military?

And I'm sure you have something that shows this, right?

yur it called talking to people face to face

Do I need to continue showing that it's the term used by the Aus military?
don't know why you did as you must have not heard of what one said can be different to what is done
like i will not bring in the GST said by john howard and what did he do gives us the GST

don't know why you did as you must have not heard of what said in one place is different to what is done

Would you mind putting that in our common language of English please?

yur it called talking to people face to face
And a faceless person on the Internet without anything to back him up is very believable then.

Especially with Daistallia providing multiple sources that say otherwise.

Would you mind putting that in our common language of English please?

read edit seeing jolt went slow

don't know why you did as you must have not heard of what one said can be different to what is done
like i will not bring in the GST said by john howard and what did he do gives us the GST

lulz, wut?

read edit seeing jolt went slow

I did. It reads as a string of random words.

lulz, wut?

Exactly so.

And a faceless person on the Internet without anything to back him up is very believable then.

Especially with Daistallia providing multiple sources that say otherwise.

well next time i'am having a talk i just get you on phone so you can join why don't i and Daistallia faceless person on the Internet who could pull out who know what out of thin air

No. Nothing against you or your platform, it's just that it's a tad to the left for my tastes.

I did. It reads as a string of random words.

so is what you have find
one can easy say i'am not going to kill you then blow your brain out after saying it

No. Nothing against you or your platform, it's just that it's a tad to the left for my tastes.

How's about a true flat tax with absolutely no exceptions (that includes any form of income including capital gains).
I will also abolish or cut back many more government agencies a la this post from 2004:
Here's a pretty comprehensive list of US government agencies.

I'll start with executive agencies:
Of the current cabinet level departments, we should completely cut out:
the Department of Agriculture, Department of Commerce, Department of Energy, Department of Health and Human Services (except for the CDC, Office for Public Health Emergency Preparedness, and FDA, to be folded into the DoD), Department of Housing and Urban Development, and Department of Labor.

Of the remaining cabinet level departments, the following should be folded into one agency:
Department of Defense, Department of Veterans Affairs, and Department of Homeland Security.

Of the remaining cabinet level departments, the following should be downsized and or privatised: Department of Transportation, Department of the Interior, and Department of the Treasury.

That leaves us with the Department of State and the Department of Justice. Both should be streamlined and overhauled.

The Executive Office of the President:
X = Cut, V = Downsize, P = Privatise, K = Keep, F = Folded into another agency
Council of Economic Advisers V
Council on Environmental Quality X
Domestic Policy Council VV
National Economic Council X
National Security Council K
Office of Administration V
Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives X
Office of Management and Budget V
Office of National AIDS Policy F
Office of National Drug Control Policy X
Office of Science and Technology Policy X
Office of the First Lady X
Office of the Vice President of the United States V
President's Council on Sustainable Development X
President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board F
United States Trade Representative X
White House Office F

Legislative agencies: congress can kep most of these. Howeve, cut the Architect of the Capitol, Office of Technology Assessment, Stennis Center for Public Service, and United States Botanic Garden.

Independent agencies:
X = Cut, V = Downsize, P = Privatise, K = Keep, F = Folded into another agency
Central Intelligence Agency CIA F
Federal Reserve System V
General Services Administration GSA V
National Aeronautics and Space Administration NASA X
National Archives and Records Administration NARA K
National Foundation on the Arts and the Humanities X
Office of Personnel Management V
Securities and Exchange Commission SEC F
Small Business Administration SBA X
Social Security Administration SSA X
United States Agency for International Development USAID X
United States Postal Service P
African Development Foundation X
Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) VF
Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) VF
Corporation for National and Community Service X
Defense Nuclear Facilities Safety Board (DNFSB) K
Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) V
Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) X
Export-Import Bank of the United States X
Farm Credit Administration X
Federal Communications Commission (FCC) X
Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) X
Federal Election Commission (FEC) K
Federal Housing Finance Board X
Federal Labor Relations Authority X
Federal Maritime Commission K
Federal Mediation and Conciliation Service X
Federal Mine Safety and Health Review Commission X
Federal Retirement Thrift Investment Board X
Federal Trade Commission (FTC) VF
Inter-American Foundation X
Merit Systems Protection Board X
National Capital Planning Commission X
National Credit Union Administration (NCUA) X
National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) X
National Mediation Board X
National Railroad Passenger Corporation (Amtrak) X
National Science Foundation (NSF) X
National Transportation Safety Board VF
Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) F
Occupational Safety and Health Review Commission VF
Office of Government Ethics F
Office of Special Counsel (OSC) X
Overseas Private Investment Corporation X
Peace Corps X
Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation X
Postal Rate Commission X
Railroad Retirement Board X
Selective Service System X
Tennessee Valley Authority X
U.S. Trade and Development Agency X
United States Commission on Civil Rights X
United States International Trade Commission (USITC) X

All 63 Boards, Commissions, and Committees can be cut.

All 69 Judicial and Quasi-Official agencies except the United States Institute of Peace can be kept.
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