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LOSING IT'S BEST AND BRIGHTEST

Iraq's Elite Fleeing in Droves

One in ten Iraqis has left the country. Baghdad's elite are trying to make ends meet in neighboring Jordan and Syria. Washington wants the United Nations to address the refugee crisis. In the meantime, the country is losing its best minds - the very people needed to rebuild Iraq.

http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,946471,00.jpg

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,500857,00.html

That paired with

Iraq refugees knocking: U.S. to let in 7,000
That's up from 800 allowed in since 2003, but fewer than Sweden

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18944557/

means that of more than 2 million war refugees only 800 have been allowed into the U.S. since the invasion. That's 0.04%.
The least thing the U.S. could do is allow people into their save haven for the mess they've created abroad!

But the "funniest" thing is that now "Washington wants the United Nations to address the refugee crisis."

"We don't need the U.N. - we know better than to listen to them."
-Invasion-
"Oops, we created a mess - guess it's time for the U.N. to step in."

That really doesn't add up. At all!

So, should the U.S. allow more refugess into the country? Let's say, 10% of those who fled Iraq? This reminds me all too much of how the South Vietnamese have been treated and allowed into the country with gritted teeth.

I'd love if I could even go so far as to take in a refugee into my home.

I'd love if I could even go so far as to take in a refugee into my home. I'd love to do that too.

What's with the 2,000,000 on that graphic who went in a circle? Did that many Iraqis really have to turn this car around, right now?

There's a limitation on how many people of a certain nationality can enter the USA?

Lame.

There's a limitation on how many people of a certain nationality can enter the USA?

Lame.

Immigration should work more like supply and demand, More demand to get in so we should have a greater supply of them enter.

now that I type that out, it feels like I'm making people into products.

Why should getting the best and brightest of any country be a problem? We can only benefit.

Click Stand;12983880']Immigration should work more like supply and demand, More demand to get in so we should have a greater supply of them enter.

now that I type that out, it feels like I'm making people into products.

Well, people sort of ARE products. Human resources, you might say. :p

Click Stand;12983880']Immigration should work more like supply and demand, More demand to get in so we should have a greater supply of them enter.

now that I type that out, it feels like I'm making people into products.

The first step in becoming a baron of industry.

So, should the U.S. allow more refugess into the country?
Absolutely, especially from Iraq!!

No, I am not an American citizen.

What's with the 2,000,000 on that graphic who went in a circle? Did that many Iraqis really have to turn this car around, right now?
Of the displaced Iraqis, 2,000,000 of them are displaced within the country. This link (http://www.unhcr.org/cgi-bin/texis/vtx/home/opendoc.pdf?tbl=SUBSITES&id=461f7cb92) should help clarify the situation.

This is the only context in which I would advocate immigration; the west is being offered thousands of highly qualified, highly intelligent and highly successful migrants, as opposed to the poor unwashed proles generally admitted.

Of the displaced Iraqis, 2,000,000 of them are displaced within the country. This link (http://www.unhcr.org/cgi-bin/texis/vtx/home/opendoc.pdf?tbl=SUBSITES&id=461f7cb92) should help clarify the situation.
I could guess that, I was trying to make a joke. It failed.
I blame jet lag.

I could guess that, I was trying to make a joke. It failed.
I blame jet lag.

better than the presidential candidate who blamed jet lag for saying something along the lines of "Gays aren't born that way, they make the decision to be gay later in life"

I could guess that, I was trying to make a joke. It failed.
I blame jet lag.

I thought it was funny.

Anyway, I would also go so far as to invite one into my home. (Though it would help if they spoke at least a bit of English, since none of my family speaks any language spoken in Iraq. That's Arabic and Farsi, right?)

I'm an american and i have no problem with us letting in the educated Iraqis, that are mentioned here. We can't let in millions, so we have to choose, and our choice should depend on the most educated who will be a benefit to the country.

Is there anyone against letting more in?

While we're at it, we can start deporting citizens who fail certain academic standards.

We're gonna need a bigger boat.

I don't understand the limit. We're destroying their country, the least we could do is give them access to ours.

"America's tradition of welcoming international refugees and responding to humanitarian emergencies is unrivaled,"

Bwahahahaha!

While we're at it, we can start deporting citizens who fail certain academic standards.


You people just can't leave him alone, can you? HES JUST DOING HIS BEST!!11!!!!!..................................







........even if it isnt any good.

I'm an american and i have no problem with us letting in the educated Iraqis, that are mentioned here. We can't let in millions, so we have to choose, and our choice should depend on the most educated who will be a benefit to the country.

I don't know if education should be a standard here... after all, both the bright and the dumb got their houses blown to bits in the mess the US created in their country.

Click Stand;12984471']better than the presidential candidate who blamed jet lag for saying something along the lines of "Gays aren't born that way, they make the decision to be gay later in life"
Richardson.

Anyway, I thought this thread would be about the shitty American Cable channel.

I don't know if education should be a standard here... after all, both the bright and the dumb got their houses blown to bits in the mess the US created in their country.

Hang on a tic....Didn't you displace yourself out of here?

Anyway, I thought this thread would be about the shitty American Cable channel.
Think again. It's about the shitty American war and its consequences.
What's with the 2,000,000 on that graphic who went in a circle? Did that many Iraqis really have to turn this car around, right now?
You fail hard at being funny. I hope you'll never be a displaced person.
Of the displaced Iraqis, 2,000,000 of them are displaced within the country. This link (http://www.unhcr.org/cgi-bin/texis/vtx/home/opendoc.pdf?tbl=SUBSITES&id=461f7cb92) should help clarify the situation.
Thank you.
I could guess that, I was trying to make a joke. It failed.
I blame jet lag.
I blame you. (Ruffy's innocent!)
Why should getting the best and brightest of any country be a problem? We can only benefit.
Like they have benefitted from your invasion and thus 10% see reason to leave their country? Bravo!
This is the only context in which I would advocate immigration; the west is being offered thousands of highly qualified, highly intelligent and highly successful migrants, as opposed to the poor unwashed proles generally admitted.
And those who either cannot afford to leave or don't meet the criteria are stuck in the quagmire you've created there? Bravo again!
Besides, even if the U.S. let in those additional 7,000 refugees it's still going to be less than half a percent of those who fled because of what the U.S. have created in Iraq. That's ridiculous!
I'm an american and i have no problem with us letting in the educated Iraqis, that are mentioned here. We can't let in millions, so we have to choose, and our choice should depend on the most educated who will be a benefit to the country.
Your choice should be that you establish a reasonable quota like 10% of those who seek refuge, maybe prefer those with children, and not take a look at what their education is and how you can benefit from them even more. Your country has already benefitted more than enough from that war at the expense of the Iraqi people.


That thinking you guys have portrayed is most despicable and I have only contempt for the likes of you who portray that train of thought.
I'm not talking about immigration here, I'm talking about seeking refuge from the country your country has made a huge mess out of! Doesn't even have to become a permanent stay.

Four years into the war and you still haven't managed to re-install infrastructure that would supply drinking water or electricity to the population, something you guys have knocked out willingly and without good cause. But I digress.

Why should it be that only educated refugees should be allowed into the country?
Why should it matter what's beneficial to the U.S.? After all, it's 2 million people who have already had the huge "benefit" of the U.S. destroying their country and giving cause to their flight in the first place! Allowing them into the country should be about what's best for them - not about what's best for you.
Live up to the responsibility you have chosen to bear.
While we're at it, we can start deporting citizens who fail certain academic standards.
We're gonna need a bigger boat.
Next time a blizzard or a tornado or a hurricane hits, only those with a college degree are allowed to seek refuge in a shelter or go somewhere else - the rest has to stay. Should've gotten some education while they still could. And yes, that includes the children. Only fair, right? It's for the benefit of all, no?
I don't understand the limit. We're destroying their country, the least we could do is give them access to ours.
Yup. Would only be fair. But then again, the U.S. has never had a sense of fairness. Just look at what happened in Vietnam after the U.S. withdrew, or after the fall of Saigon... It's the same story.
I don't know if education should be a standard here... after all, both the bright and the dumb got their houses blown to bits in the mess the US created in their country.
That's what made this topic so interesting. It reveals a lot...

There's a limitation on how many people of a certain nationality can enter the USA?

Lame.

We like to limit the number of brown people we let in. Which is the cause of the "Illegal Immigration Crisis". :rolleyes:

LOSING IT'S BEST AND BRIGHTEST

Iraq's Elite Fleeing in Droves

One in ten Iraqis has left the country. Baghdad's elite are trying to make ends meet in neighboring Jordan and Syria. Washington wants the United Nations to address the refugee crisis. In the meantime, the country is losing its best minds - the very people needed to rebuild Iraq.

http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,946471,00.jpg

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,500857,00.html

That paired with

Iraq refugees knocking: U.S. to let in 7,000
That's up from 800 allowed in since 2003, but fewer than Sweden

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18944557/

means that of more than 2 million war refugees only 800 have been allowed into the U.S. since the invasion. That's 0.04%.
The least thing the U.S. could do is allow people into their save haven for the mess they've created abroad!

But the "funniest" thing is that now "Washington wants the United Nations to address the refugee crisis."

"We don't need the U.N. - we know better than to listen to them."
-Invasion-
"Oops, we created a mess - guess it's time for the U.N. to step in."

That really doesn't add up. At all!

So, should the U.S. allow more refugess into the country? Let's say, 10% of those who fled Iraq? This reminds me all too much of how the South Vietnamese have been treated and allowed into the country with gritted teeth.


Is it surprising? The brightest people who have the ability are going to flee an area where they know their chances of survival are low.

Next time a blizzard or a tornado or a hurricane hits, only those with a college degree are allowed to seek refuge in a shelter or go somewhere else - the rest has to stay. Should've gotten some education while they still could. And yes, that includes the children. Only fair, right? It's for the benefit of all, no?

Of course! Discrimination based on arbitrary scholastic accomplishments is the true way of freedom. Give us your tired, your poor, your 3.7+ GPA students..

Is it surprising? The brightest people who have the ability are going to flee an area where they know their chances of survival are low.
It's not surprising.
It's sad.
Really, really sad.
And it's so fucking typical for the U.S. to behave the way they do right now.
Of course! Discrimination based on arbitrary scholastic accomplishments is the true way of freedom. Give us your tired, your poor, your 3.7+ GPA students..
...but those screwed worst by us, stay the hell away from our shores and find your unlimited possibilities somewhere else?