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your thoughts?

My first thought is that this thread needs more of an explanation.

My second is that I probably won't care about the topic once an explanation is given.

My thoughts? How gross stale Corona is, but I plan on finishing it all because Grasshopper deserves a fridge to itself.

Have you ever wondered what drives people to collect the state coins and gold dollars since they are legal tender that can be spent?

For those who don't know: Michael Vick is the star quarterback for the American football team Atlanta Falcons who has been charged with being involved in some sort of sadistic dog fighting ring which involved torturing and killing dogs and so forth. Blah blah blah -- PETA complains... and there's federal charges against him blah blah blah. It's all over ESPN every god damn day. In short, his career is over anyway due to this so fuck it.

I think he's just a poor black guy being set up by people who want payback. He deserves massive compensation for the suffering him and his family have gone through.

I wonder if pie sniping the President would be worth prison time.

My thoughts .. you just had michael vick as a title and then the post as "your thoughts" i assume you want my thoughts on the mentioned person , well i have no idea what so ever on who michael vick is and i think this thread is a waste of time.

For those who don't know: Michael Vick is the star quarterback for the American football team Atlanta Falcons who has been charged with being involved in some sort of sadistic dog fighting ring which involved torturing and killing dogs and so forth. Blah blah blah -- PETA complains... and there's federal charges against him blah blah blah. It's all over ESPN every god damn day. In short, his career is over anyway due to this so fuck it.

ANd fuck him. And fuck PETA. And Fuck ESPN. Fuck The Atlanta Falcons. If I missed anybody involved in the whole news story, I apologize and fuck them too. :)

could someone direct me to war threads and sports discussion threads?

ANd fuck him. And fuck PETA. And Fuck ESPN. Fuck The Atlanta Falcons. If I missed anybody involved in the whole news story, I apologize and fuck them too. :)

The co-defendants who pointed the finger at him to try and get a reduced sentence (or something like that)?

The co-defendants who pointed the finger at him to try and get a reduced sentence (or something like that)?

Fuck them too. :)

Actually the more stale beer you drink, the better they taste.

could someone direct me to war threads and sports discussion threads?

the convention here is if you have a new topic then you post a new thread, with some sort of background info and your own opinion on the matter. you might also tack on a discusion point if one is salient to the story. otherwise it's spam.

I wonder if pie sniping the President would be worth prison time.

The Biotic Baking Brigade (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biotic_Baking_Brigade) could probably tell you that. Bless Wiki and it's random pages.:D

The Biotic Baking Brigade (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biotic_Baking_Brigade) could probably tell you that. Bless Wiki and it's random pages.:D

To add to that, just take a look at Canadian history. It's chock full of pies and politicians.

the convention here is if you have a new topic then you post a new thread, with some sort of background info and your own opinion on the matter. you might also tack on a discusion point if one is salient to the story. otherwise it's spam.


calm down, who do you think i am, the Vancome Lady?

calm down, who do you think i am, the Vancome Lady?

i was being nice nd helpful and stuff. i'm sorry if i came across narky but i am a bit drunk so that is liable to happen. i don't know who the vancome lady is.

i was being nice nd helpful and stuff. i'm sorry if i came across narky but i am a bit drunk so that is liable to happen. i don't know who the vancome lady is.


a nicole sullivan character from when she was on madtv

a nicole sullivan character from when she was on madtv

i am none the wiser. i'm somewhat out of touch with television. nevermind.

This is the one, Entartistes (http://www.entartistes.ca/), the Canadian version of the Biotic Baking Brigade.

I think he's just a poor black guy being set up by people who want payback. He deserves massive compensation for the suffering him and his family have gone through.

Poor? He made more money last year than I might ever make in my lifetime. And if he's innocent, then I have no problem with him. If he's guilty on the other hand, he'll be listed as scum of the earth in my book (dogs are man's best friend, not a source of sadistic entertainment).

the convention here is if you have a new topic then you post a new thread, with some sort of background info and your own opinion on the matter. you might also tack on a discusion point if one is salient to the story. otherwise it's spam.

The guy has 7 posts. Let's give him a break before we drive away a new friend.

The guy has 7 posts. Let's give him a break before we drive away a new friend.

He could have picked a better name though.

One case of stale Corona, done.:)

your thoughts?

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...devil made me do it!

The only time in recorded history that I've ever agreed with PETA.

I wonder if pie sniping the President would be worth prison time.

You liar.
You don't wonder a bit. You've already decided.
The key is how many others you can convince to do the same. :D

remember, he prefers to be called Ron Mexico

I think he's just a poor black guy being set up by people who want payback. He deserves massive compensation for the suffering him and his family have gone through.

how much crack do you smoke?

"Who?"

You liar.
You don't wonder a bit. You've already decided.
The key is how many others you can convince to do the same. :D

I've been toying with the idea of how to accomplish it. I was thinking of baking patriotic pies and selling them for charity to support the families of injured Iraqi war veterans. If I can do that enough and have a good publicist, I might be able to arrange a meeting with the President to present him a special pie. Then I'll smack him with it.

I know it's a lot of work, but Freedom demands sacrifice. *nod*

Poor? He made more money last year than I might ever make in my lifetime. And if he's innocent, then I have no problem with him. If he's guilty on the other hand, he'll be listed as scum of the earth in my book (dogs are man's best friend, not a source of sadistic entertainment).

You should try Bosintang.;)

ANd fuck him. And fuck PETA. And Fuck ESPN. Fuck The Atlanta Falcons. If I missed anybody involved in the whole....FOX and CNN

could someone direct me to war threads and sports discussion threads?

Well I could...

But it involves driving past my secret base, and if I told you where it was, then it wouldn't be much of a secret now would it?

ANd fuck him. And fuck PETA. And Fuck ESPN. Fuck The Atlanta Falcons. If I missed anybody involved in the whole news story, I apologize and fuck them too. :)

Fuck them too. :)

Please...leave SOME manseed left for more mini Goofs!

"Who?"he is a GridIron player, he is like a black Peyton Manning.. of course you dont know Who is manning either..

Vick is a great athlete, he also happen to participate in the organization of Dog Figthing.. I am assuming this because at least one time the "Dog Fighting" took place on his property.. BTW thousands of Americans are fans of these Dog fightings. Dog fighting is the moral equivalent of Bull Corridas, Boxing.. or other animal fighting sports.. Its immoral.

and like 95% of the World you dont know the new White House special envoy to China.. former baseball God,

I mean If they are going to pick a retired sports star, they should pick Football, Box, tennis, golf, racing.. or some sport they can relate too.. something they are aware of.
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For those who don't know: Michael Vick is the star quarterback for the American football team Atlanta Falcons who has been charged with being involved in some sort of sadistic dog fighting ring which involved torturing and killing dogs and so forth. Blah blah blah -- PETA complains... and there's federal charges against him blah blah blah. It's all over ESPN every god damn day. In short, his career is over anyway due to this so fuck it.
My thoughts are that it is grossly inconsistent for the NFL to ban him from football before the trial. After all, Raven's star Ray Lewis was indicted and tried for murder and was still allowed to play.

Then there's the Kobe Bryant case -- indicted and tried for rape, but still allowed to play by the NBA.

What is it about dog fights that provokes more severe punishments -- Before the conviction -- than crimes against humans. I like dogs, too, but this is not right.

My thoughts are that it is grossly inconsistent for the NFL to ban him from football before the trial. After all, Raven's star Ray Lewis was indicted and tried for murder and was still allowed to play.

Then there's the Kobe Bryant case -- indicted and tried for rape, but still allowed to play by the NBA.

What is it about dog fights that provokes more severe punishments -- Before the conviction -- than crimes against humans. I like dogs, too, but this is not right.Actually I am comparing the Vick vs Paris Hilton situations...

I say.. Paris Hilton drive while drunk/drugged an average of 2 times a week (at least). And will keep driving and drinking.. regardless of what the Judge says

Even if Paris is indicted and Vick is declared Innocent... Vick career is destroyed and Paris Hilton is set to make millions out of her trip to jail.

Fuck them too. :)

Ummm why is it, do we think, that when you are found to be incompetant at your job, you are likely to be called a 'fuckin' clown'?

What do they call incompetant clowns? Fuckin' lawyer?

Actually I am comparing the Vick vs Paris Hilton situations...

I say.. Paris Hilton drive while drunk/drugged an average of 2 times a week (at least). And will keep driving and drinking.. regardless of what the Judge says

Even if Paris is indicted and Vick is declared Innocent... Vick career is destroyed and Paris Hilton is set to make millions out of her trip to jail.
I don't particularly mind seeing Vick sidelined permanently. He's a thug and ought to be out of football. It's the inconsistency of how athletes are treated, pending the outcome of their cases that has me bothered.

I'll bet if we looked up a hundred cases of athletes that have been accused of crimes, only a small minority would have been censured by the league before court action was complete.

Ummm why is it, do we think, that when you are found to be incompetant at your job, you are likely to be called a 'fuckin' clown'?

What do they call incompetant clowns? Fuckin' lawyer?

Bozo. Worst clown ever. *nod*

I'll bet if we looked up a hundred cases of athletes that have been accused of crimes, only a small minority would have been censured by the league before court action was complete.

How many of them have the kind of history Vick has, though? He's been getting into legal trouble since he was picked up by the Falcons. I'm not at all surprised that they went ahead and took him out of the game now (which is probably better for the team, as well).

Note: I don't really know if his history is any worse than other athletes accused of major crimes, so it still could be unfair treatment or whatever. Of course, I also don't really care all that much.

How many of them have the kind of history Vick has, though? He's been getting into legal trouble since he was picked up by the Falcons. I'm not at all surprised that they went ahead and took him out of the game now (which is probably better for the team, as well).

Note: I don't really know if his history is any worse than other athletes accused of major crimes, so it still could be unfair treatment or whatever. Of course, I also don't really care all that much.
Vick is a thug, there are no two ways about it. He deserves to be banned from professional sports, but only after the conviction. Not because he's potentially innocent, but because it's the historically consistent thing to do.

Then again, look at boxers. How many of them were re-instated after prison terms? Mohamed Ali and Mike Tyson come to mind, but I'll bet there are an number of others...

Bozo. Worst clown ever. *nod*

No way, Pennywise was WAY worse.

Then again, look at boxers. How many of them were re-instated after prison terms? Mohamed Ali and Mike Tyson come to mind, but I'll bet there are an number of others...Boxing and GridIron-Football.. these sports ask the players to be extremely aggressive.. So most players have high testosterone levels.

Besides many players come from poor tough neighborhoods (maybe because of the level of aggressivity required by the sport)

and then there was this study.. saying the NFL population was not more criminal than the average US population.

No way, Pennywise was WAY worse.

Man I would have thought John Wayne Gacey was the worst ever clown?

Man I would have thought John Wayne Gacey was the worst ever clown?

He was sloppy. *nod*

My thoughts?

I like Vicks Vapor Rub when I have congestion and stuffy sinses.

Then again, look at boxers. How many of them were re-instated after prison terms? Mohamed Ali and Mike Tyson come to mind, but I'll bet there are an number of others...

So you're expecting consistency across different sports (and thus different people in charge) and across decades? Good luck with that.

You show me a relatively current football player who has been allowed to play in a similar situation, and I might see your point.

this just in, Mike Vick to plead guilty. I'd provide a link but it's from aol and I know how much people here like aol links.

So you're expecting consistency across different sports (and thus different people in charge) and across decades? Good luck with that.

You show me a relatively current football player who has been allowed to play in a similar situation, and I might see your point.

I did already. I stated that Baltimore Raven, Ray Lewis, was allowed to continue playing after being arrested and indicted for murder.

Turns out I was wrong.

He was arrested after the Superbowl in 2000, but those charges were dropped. He was yanked from the Pro-Bowl. Then he was fined by the league, but not suspended for pleading guilty to obstruction of justice.

I'm sort of right about the inconsistency, but not with the initial set of facts.

I did already. I stated that Baltimore Raven, Ray Lewis, was allowed to continue playing after being arrested and indicted for murder.

Turns out I was wrong.

He was arrested after the Superbowl in 2000, but those charges were dropped. He was yanked from the Pro-Bowl. Then he was fined by the league, but not suspended for pleading guilty to obstruction of justice.

I'm sort of right about the inconsistency, but not with the initial set of facts.I was under the impression he was arrested before the Super Bowl.

The difference is the Ravens Owner, he took a Rock solid stand.. backing up Ray Lewis.. his lead was eventually followed by the Team and and ultimately the city of Baltimore. IMO.

The Falcons owner never took a decisive stand.. he just did not show up.

I was under the impression he was arrested before the Super Bowl.

The difference is the Ravens Owner, he took a Rock solid stand.. backing up Ray Lewis.. his lead was eventually followed by the Team and and ultimately the city of Baltimore. IMO.

The Falcons owner never took a decisive stand.. he just did not show up.

On the contrary, after the allegations came out and Vick was charged, the Falcons suspended Vick pending the result of the trial. He hasn't yet been given any punishment other than that by football. After his sentencing, the NFL will probably formally suspend him for whatever period it sees fit, perhaps forever, and at that point, Atlanta will terminate his contract. That way, Vick doesn't get any of his money for this year, which he would recieve at least a fraction of if the Atlanta Falcons breached the contract. However, by getting himself suspended and/or jailed, he breaches the contract himself and forfeits his payment.

My thoughts are that it is grossly inconsistent for the NFL to ban him from football before the trial. After all, Raven's star Ray Lewis was indicted and tried for murder and was still allowed to play.

Then there's the Kobe Bryant case -- indicted and tried for rape, but still allowed to play by the NBA.

What is it about dog fights that provokes more severe punishments -- Before the conviction -- than crimes against humans. I like dogs, too, but this is not right.

It isn't inconsistent. In the last year or two the NFL has had a code of conduct imposed on its players. Pacman Jones has been suspended for the entire year after his indictment. He hasn't even been put on trial yet.

If anything, the NFL is being consistent with its enforcement of its conduct rules.

Ray Lewis and his two accomplices were let off on the murder charges after the case. But Rick Reilly of Sports Illustrated looked into the matter and since they were let go, no further arrests have been made and the case was for the most part dropped. I think it's pretty clear they did it.

ANd fuck him. And fuck PETA. And Fuck ESPN. Fuck The Atlanta Falcons. If I missed anybody involved in the whole news story, I apologize and fuck them too. :)

QFMFT

Ray Lewis and his two accomplices were let off on the murder charges after the case. But Rick Reilly of Sports Illustrated looked into the matter and since they were let go, no further arrests have been made and the case was for the most part dropped. I think it's pretty clear they did it.

Under the NFL's current code, Ray Lewis would be in deep shit.

But, that code is something that is only a few years old. Ray Lewis can't be held to it for events that occurred before the code.

Vick and Pacman did their crimes after the code so they are covered under it and screwed.

your thoughts?


I think people who are cruel to things/people that can't protect themselves are about the same. People who like dog fighting and killing dogs are on the same level of people who rape women and beat their kids. Fucking sick all of them. I think they should let some of his fighting dogs deal with him.

I wonder if Ron Mexico's new prison buddies will start using condoms so they don't get herpes from him.