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...And from the "You really can't make this stuff up" department...

SimNewtonia
15-08-2007, 06:16
China's Trying to Regulate Reincarnation (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20227400/site/newsweek/)

IMHO it's the most stupid thing I've ever heard of... "regulating reincarnation". Uh huh, yeah, that'll work.

Not that I believe that reincarnation happens. I believe people can on the odd occasion be raised from the dead, but it's not something you see often.

In fact, I find the whole concept of reincarnation creepy. But that's just me.
Neo Undelia
15-08-2007, 06:18
I think being raised from the dead is creepier than reincarnation.

Also, lol
Daistallia 2104
15-08-2007, 08:10
China's Trying to Regulate Reincarnation (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20227400/site/newsweek/)

IMHO it's the most stupid thing I've ever heard of... "regulating reincarnation". Uh huh, yeah, that'll work.

Not that I believe that reincarnation happens. I believe people can on the odd occasion be raised from the dead, but it's not something you see often.

In fact, I find the whole concept of reincarnation creepy. But that's just me.

Did we really need a second thread on this so soon after the first (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=535232)?

Anyways, as Newsweek points out, it's really about the PRC's poltical control of Tibet, not "regulating reincarnation".

But beyond the irony lies China's true motive: to cut off the influence of the Dalai Lama, Tibet's exiled spiritual and political leader, and to quell the region's Buddhist religious establishment more than 50 years after China invaded the small Himalayan country. By barring any Buddhist monk living outside China from seeking reincarnation, the law effectively gives Chinese authorities the power to choose the next Dalai Lama, whose soul, by tradition, is reborn as a new human to continue the work of relieving suffering.
SimNewtonia
15-08-2007, 11:37
Did we really need a second thread on this so soon after the first (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=535232)?

Anyways, as Newsweek points out, it's really about the PRC's poltical control of Tibet, not "regulating reincarnation".

My bad.

Sorry, I didn't see the other thread. Mods, feel free to close this one or merge it.
RLI Rides Again
15-08-2007, 18:00
Did we really need a second thread on this so soon after the first (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=535232)?

I demand royalties!
Katganistan
15-08-2007, 18:37
China's Trying to Regulate Reincarnation (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20227400/site/newsweek/)

IMHO it's the most stupid thing I've ever heard of... "regulating reincarnation". Uh huh, yeah, that'll work.

Not that I believe that reincarnation happens. I believe people can on the odd occasion be raised from the dead, but it's not something you see often.

In fact, I find the whole concept of reincarnation creepy. But that's just me.

IF reincarnation is in fact possible (and I have my doubts other than in a strictly metaphorical sense) how in hell do they plan to control it?

I think being raised from the dead is creepier than reincarnation.

Also, lol

Look what happened to Lazarus:

Crowd: You're dead!
Lazarus: No, I'm not, I was resurrected!

And that's why folks wanted Jesus out of the way -- because making your friends come back from the dead, and telling people to be nice to each other, is REALLY CREEPY. ;)
Neo Undelia
15-08-2007, 21:00
Look what happened to Lazarus:

Crowd: You're dead!
Lazarus: No, I'm not, I was resurrected!

And that's why folks wanted Jesus out of the way -- because making your friends come back from the dead, and telling people to be nice to each other, is REALLY CREEPY. ;)

Reincarnated= new body, new mind, same soul
Resurrection= Undead
Interwebz
15-08-2007, 21:49
IF reincarnation is in fact possible (and I have my doubts other than in a strictly metaphorical sense) how in hell do they plan to control it?
It's not about control, but about the Asian culture, where the law is often still believed to be The Law.

That means that by seeking and attaining reincarnation, one would violate The Law, and probably Dalai-Lama isn't supposed to do it.
Druidville
15-08-2007, 21:54
I'm curious as to how they plan on catching offenders.
Walker-Texas-Ranger
15-08-2007, 22:43
I'm curious as to how they plan on catching offenders.

Simple.

Guilty until proven innocent.
Kirav
16-08-2007, 00:15
That means that by seeking and attaining reincarnation, one would violate The Law, and probably Dalai-Lama isn't supposed to do it.

That's it! It's a plant to rid the world of the Dalai-Lama, and keep the Tibetans firmly under iron-fisted Chinese rule. There is purpose in politics.
Daistallia 2104
16-08-2007, 18:04
how in hell do they plan to control it?

I'm curious as to how they plan on catching offenders.

One simply has to look at the case of the Panchen Lama. Beijing didn't like the one HH the Dalai Lama recognised, so they simply kidnapped the reay Panchen Lama, said he wants to avoid the public, and set up a "tradition" for naming their own. Somewhat akin to kidnapping the college of Cardinals, replacing them with dubiously sourced Cardinals and saying "these new Cardinals refelect the will of the people".

That's it! It's a plant to rid the world of the Dalai-Lama, and keep the Tibetans firmly under iron-fisted Chinese rule. There is purpose in politics.

I'm not quite sure if that was supposed to be sarcasim or not , but it was exactly correct....
Szanth
16-08-2007, 18:12
It's not about control, but about the Asian culture, where the law is often still believed to be The Law.

That means that by seeking and attaining reincarnation, one would violate The Law, and probably Dalai-Lama isn't supposed to do it.

Isn't the point of Buddhism to seek and attain reincarnation and enlightenment? Or am I getting this mixed up with Hinduism? So are they attempting to outlaw Buddhism?
Technoarchy
16-08-2007, 18:30
Isn't the point of Buddhism to seek and attain reincarnation and enlightenment? Or am I getting this mixed up with Hinduism? So are they attempting to outlaw Buddhism?

That's exactly what they are doing. Beijing has always thought that the Dalai Lama was a threat to their control of Tibet. That is why the Dalai Lama has been in exile in India since 1959.
Szanth
16-08-2007, 18:37
That's exactly what they are doing. Beijing has always thought that the Dalai Lama was a threat to their control of Tibet. That is why the Dalai Lama has been in exile in India since 1959.

Well he kind of is a threat. He hired guerilla warriors.
Vetalia
16-08-2007, 18:38
Well, if it makes it any easier to destroy an illegally occupied country by turning it in to a polluted hellhole, what evs. Maybe they can build some factories to make lead-painted toys and detachable magnets there.
JuNii
16-08-2007, 18:39
I Can just see it now..

"My Dalai Lama can beat your Dalai Lama!"