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http://www.sacbee.com/111/story/318143.html

WASHINGTON -- President Bush charged Thursday that Iran continues to arm and train insurgents who are killing U.S. soldiers in Iraq, and he threatened action if that continues.

At a news conference Thursday, Bush said Iran had been warned of unspecified consequences if it continued its alleged support for anti-American forces in Iraq. U.S. Ambassador to Iraq Ryan Crocker had conveyed the warning in meetings with his Iranian counterpart in Baghdad, the president said.

Bush wasn't specific, and a State Department official refused to elaborate on the warning.

Hmm, not everyone agrees on how...

Cheney, who's long been skeptical of diplomacy with Iran, argued for military action if hard new evidence emerges of Iran's complicity in supporting anti-American forces in Iraq; for example, catching a truckload of fighters or weapons crossing into Iraq from Iran, one official said.

The two officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they weren't authorized to talk publicly about internal government deliberations.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice opposes this idea, the officials said.

Defense Secretary Robert Gates has stated publicly that "we think we can handle this inside the borders of Iraq."

Looks like Bush still likes the idea of regime change...

"My message to the Iranian people is, you can do better than this current government," he said.

What do any of you think Bush will do next? Invade? Bomb? Nothing? Nuke?

My message to the American people is, you can do better than this current government.

Difficult to say, probably more pissing about untill his time in office runs out. So what the US does probably depends on who the next president will be.

My message to the American people is, you can do better than this current government.

Damn, beaten to it! :( :D

What do any of you think Bush will do next? Invade? Bomb? Nothing? Nuke?
nothing.

He's out after 2008. If the Dem grow more backbone and do what they promised their people they would do and not cave in so readily under threat of working through their vacation, then he can bluster all he wants.

but if the Dems stay true to form however... :rolleyes:

"Now go away or I shall taunt you a second time!". Pretty well how Shrubya comes across.

http://www.sacbee.com/111/story/318143.html

What do any of you think Bush will do next? Invade? Bomb? Nothing? Nuke?

Probably have people so focused on the external that they won't pay attention to what he does to his own country, internally. It's worked fucking fabulously so far as a pretty successful juggling act.
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http://www.sacbee.com/111/story/318143.html



Hmm, not everyone agrees on how...



Looks like Bush still likes the idea of regime change...



What do any of you think Bush will do next? Invade? Bomb? Nothing? Nuke?

Invade, of course. If I know El Cowboy, he'll ride into the fray, whooping and hollering like Slim Pickens riding the bomb.

I would support the overthrow of the Islamic Republic, but not by the US, this is because if it happened all Iranian industry would be privatized and all wealth would be sucked out of the country through a new 'Anglo-Iranian Company'. So yeah, replacing a social conservative reactionary state with a fiscally conservative reactionary state is 1 step forward, 2 steps back. I support only if the Communists/Tudah were the ones replacing the Islamic Republic.

Invade, of course. If I know El Cowboy, he'll ride into the fray, whooping and hollering like Slim Pickens riding the bomb.

You do know that Democrats have proposed the idea of military action in Iran as well, right?

Pehaps targeting and destroying the convoys bringing in the insurgents as they cross the border? Nah, that would make too much sense.

You do know that Democrats have proposed the idea of military action in Iran as well, right?

Just what we need, another invason.

Or else we will screw up thier economy so bad they can't even have beer!!!

http://www.sacbee.com/111/story/318143.html



Hmm, not everyone agrees on how...



Looks like Bush still likes the idea of regime change...



What do any of you think Bush will do next? Invade? Bomb? Nothing? Nuke?

You forgot a USA naval blockade of Cuba under crazy war happy President George W Bush, nothing goes in, nothing goes out until that dictatorhsip government falls from within in a short period of time.

Pick up any Balseros, house them in Guantanamo, at least invade Cayo Coco, kick out the foreign tourists, and house the Balseros in the luxury hotels for foreigners untill the dictatorhip falls from withinn in a short period of time.

At most invade the Isle of Youth - Isla de Pinos - the Isle of Pines, for which the USA is supposed to have possible invasion plans filed somewhere in government, and Fidel has vowed to have rigged with so many explosives to blow the Isle of Pines up under the sea.

Then let those crazy Cuban Americans organize a flottilla of boats bringing food, medicine, clothes, and some $ to their family, friends and others on the island before any Americans set foot on Cuba.

President Bush and his administration have warned Cuba that any new Cuban government organized Balsero crisis would result in war and the end of the Cuban government, in such a scenario a USA naval blocade as I have described is the best military option.

I think the Clinton administration warned the Cuban government of this too, but I am not so sure if I am correct on this statement.

Quick question: where the hell would we get the forces for this invasion? If he thinks he'll draft his way out of the manpower shortage, The Decider has another thing coming. Nothing will end his saber-rattling faster than an angry population totally opposed to the draft...he'd be lucky if he wasn't forced to resign.

Nothing will end his saber-rattling faster than an angry population totally opposed to the draft...he'd be lucky if he wasn't forced to resign.

NO ONE is so lucky that he'd be forced to resign. Not with the cowards and psychos calling the shots.
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Invade, of course. If I know El Cowboy, he'll ride into the fray, whooping and hollering like Slim Pickens riding the bomb.

If there's one thing you can count on, it's that King George the Lesser will be nowhere near the action, and neither will Cheney, unless it involves caged Iranians and shooting an old non-Iranian man in the face.

What do any of you think Bush will do next? Invade? Bomb? Nothing? Nuke?

Nothing more than continued bluffing can be done, reasonably. The army and USMC are too overcommited for an invasion. A bombing camapign will simply provoke a greater negative responses. And nuking for any reason short of a confirmed major WMD attack is simple out of the question.

Looks like "Mr Popular" wants to ruin his approval rating even further. I guess he's trying for 0% now.

we can all do better then our current governments, whatever beliefs, idiologies, or any damd thing else they happen to pay lip service to, wherever we happen to live, at least anyone currently living anywhere on planet earth!

i don't think this makes bloody armed conflict a very wonderful idea though.

i think we all know, or those who think about it very much, what bush, or rather his puppet masters, are really up to. get us into enough wars to make everthing colapse so marshal law dictatorship has an excuse to be impossed.

(also to distract everyone from how we're really screwing ourselves and every living thing on the planet with putting symbolic value and trying to impress each other ahead of nature's cycles of renewal and our dependence on them. and a few dozzen other REAL issues, that going and starting a stray war or two is always good for trumping whatever attention might otherwise be paid to them)

then no more haggling with congress and a constitution, just send anyone who doesn't kiss the ass of the corporate mafia to the gulag.

that's what it's really all about. what it's always been all about.
destroying everything that's worth a dam, so no one else can ever get to enjoy it, on the pretense of course, of 'conserviing' it.

=^^=
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If there's one thing you can count on, it's that King George the Lesser will be nowhere near the action, and neither will Cheney, unless it involves caged Iranians and shooting an old non-Iranian man in the face.

He'll give an image of riding into the fray, to be sure. And Cheney will just shoot his hunting buddies.

we can all do better then our current governments, whatever beliefs, idiologies, or any damd thing else they happen to pay lip service to, wherever we happen to live, at least anyone currently living anywhere on planet earth!

i don't think this makes bloody armed conflict a very wonderful idea though.

i think we all know, or those who think about it very much, what bush, or rather his puppet masters, are really up to. get us into enough wars to make everthing colapse so marshal law dictatorship has an excuse to be impossed.

(also to distract everyone from how we're really screwing ourselves and every living thing on the planet with putting symbolic value and trying to impress each other ahead of nature's cycles of renewal and our dependence on them. and a few dozzen other REAL issues, that going and starting a stray war or two is always good for trumping whatever attention might otherwise be paid to them)

then no more haggling with congress and a constitution, just send anyone who doesn't kiss the ass of the corporate mafia to the gulag.

that's what it's really all about. what it's always been all about.
destroying everything that's worth a dam, so no one else can ever get to enjoy it, on the pretense of course, of 'conserviing' it.

=^^=
.../\...

I'm no student of Cameroi, but that was a great speech.

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