NationStates Jolt Archive


Charges Dropped Against Marine

Remote Observer
09-08-2007, 18:18
http://www.bakersfield.com/119/story/208947.html

Told you so.

Remember the post where I said that the recommendation was to drop the charges? Some of you thought that the recommendation wouldn't be followed.

It was.

There are still others charged -- it remains to be seen if their cases fail under similar circumstances.
The Parkus Empire
09-08-2007, 20:17
http://www.bakersfield.com/119/story/208947.html

Told you so.

Remember the post where I said that the recommendation was to drop the charges? Some of you thought that the recommendation wouldn't be followed.

It was.

There are still others charged -- it remains to be seen if their cases fail under similar circumstances.

Finally. It's about time the U.S. woke-up.
Corneliu
09-08-2007, 20:21
Good!
Nodinia
09-08-2007, 20:26
Whats the significance of this?
Remote Observer
09-08-2007, 20:46
Whats the significance of this?

Well, in your book, the Marine just got away with murder.

In my book, there was no proof behind the accusations, and Murtha just ate one. Oh, and anyone who said that the general would never go along with the investigator's recommendations is wrong, and I was right, and gee, I know how the military works...
Remote Observer
09-08-2007, 21:02
Charges dropped against ANOTHER Marine as well....

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/military/20070809-1050-ca-marines-haditha.html

LOS ANGELES – All charges were dropped against a captain accused of failing to investigate the deaths of 24 civilians in Haditha, the Marine Corps announced Thursday.
Gravlen
09-08-2007, 22:04
http://www.bakersfield.com/119/story/208947.html
Well if he only were responsible for the deaths of three grown men, I can see how there's insufficient evidence to prosecute.

And if he's only responsible for the deaths of three grown men, he's not really the one the prosecution should be after, is it?

Ah well. Too bad the US mishandled this so badly from day one. Story of Iraq I guess.

Remember the post where I said that the recommendation was to drop the charges?
No.
Nodinia
09-08-2007, 22:16
Well, in your book, the Marine just got away with murder.


No, I doubt its that simple. 'speeding tickets at the indy 500'.

You can have trials, convictions and sentences but still have the guilty evade punishment, while the less culpable and innocent suffer.....
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/06/25/070625fa_fact_hersh?printable=true

Or you can stand testimony to something that seems to bring few prosequtions despite its frequency....
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070730/hedges
Fleckenstein
09-08-2007, 22:18
Self fap 101.
Psychotic Mongooses
10-08-2007, 01:00
In his decision to dismiss charges, Lt. Gen. James Mattis, the commanding general with jurisdiction in the case, said he was sympathetic to the challenges Marines on the ground face in Iraq.

Gotta love military justice.

"I sympathise with your situation, so you're free to go."

In the house, Sharratt said he saw an Iraqi point an AK-47 at him from across the hallway. Sharratt's machine gun jammed, so he pulled out his pistol and shot the man in the head. He claimed that he then heard another man in an adjoining bedroom loading an AK-47.

Maybe it's just me - but that doesn't seem to fit. An Iraqi is pointing an AK at him from across the hallway, yet the Marine has time to shoot his weapon, finding it jammed, switch to his side arm and get a shot off..... before the Iraqi, who's pointing a gun at him, has time to squeeze the trigger alone?
PsychoticDan
10-08-2007, 01:05
http://www.bakersfield.com/119/story/208947.html

Told you so.



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You're all so moted! Scratch your neck! :)
Utracia
10-08-2007, 01:11
http://www.bakersfield.com/119/story/208947.html

Told you so.

Remember the post where I said that the recommendation was to drop the charges? Some of you thought that the recommendation wouldn't be followed.

It was.

There are still others charged -- it remains to be seen if their cases fail under similar circumstances.

Charges dropped against ANOTHER Marine as well....

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/military/20070809-1050-ca-marines-haditha.html

Am I to assume that this is some kind of suggestion that since charges are being dropped in these cases that ALL soldiers charged with crimes just must be innocent. I must not be hearing that. But if you aren't I wonder what your point is. You do have one right?
Non Aligned States
10-08-2007, 01:36
Good!

And yet you lot complain about a certain Kennedy who was charged but not convicted of murder.

Hypocrite.
Andaras Prime
10-08-2007, 01:46
DK Thread Failure 101.
Neu Leonstein
10-08-2007, 02:17
I can't actually find why the charges were dropped. Lack of evidence?
Utracia
10-08-2007, 02:27
I can't actually find why the charges were dropped. Lack of evidence?

Maybe this is all there is:

Our nation is fighting a shadowy enemy who hides among the innocent people, does not comply with any aspect of the law of war, and routinely draws fire toward civilians," Mattis wrote. "With the dismissal of these charges, you may fairly conclude that you did your best to live up to the standards followed by U.S. fighting men throughout our many wars."

Since we are in this fight we have to excuse any, uh, overeagerness on the part of our troops. After all given the dasterdly tactics of the enemy, how can we be expected to not use similar methods? Fair is fair right?
Neu Leonstein
10-08-2007, 02:29
Since we are in this fight we have to excuse any, uh, overeagerness on the part of our troops. After all given the dasterdly tactics of the enemy, how can we be expected to not use similar methods? Fair is fair right?
If that's it, that is pretty sick: "Oops, I'm sure you didn't mean to. Honest mistake!"
Non Aligned States
10-08-2007, 02:38
If that's it, that is pretty sick: "Oops, I'm sure you didn't mean to. Honest mistake!"

If so, I wonder if the same were to apply to them...perhaps an 'accident' involving returning criminals and hails of bullets.
CanuckHeaven
10-08-2007, 05:57
And yet you lot complain about a certain Kennedy who was charged but not convicted of murder.

Hypocrite.
More hypocrisy (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7884072&postcount=31):

1)Because the people down in Guantanamo Bay are NOT POWs but, to borrow a phrase, "illegal combatants" aka terrorists. If your caught in arms without a proper insignia, the Geneva Convention will not apply. The Geneva Convention only covers those in Militias with PROPER MARKERS somewhere and to members of the Opposite Army. The people in Gitmo did not have these markings or were part of a national army. Therefore, under international law, they do not have to be accorded Geneva Convention rights.
Thus GUILTY without even being charged or have benefit of a trial? Can't even have a lawyer!!

Cornman thinking for sure!!:p


BTW, there are lots more if you would like me to quote them?