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Nintendo Wii

Captain Asinine
09-08-2007, 10:44
Dumbest idea ever? Who owns one and how much do you hate it and wish you got a 360 or a PS3?
Andaras Prime
09-08-2007, 10:48
Don't own one, have played a friends one, the cordless controllers give you RSI and aches something shocking, especially when playing the Tennis game.
Captain Asinine
09-08-2007, 10:49
Yeah the Wii sucks monkey butt! All hail the Uberstation 3 and the GodBox360!
Carlsbadiopia
09-08-2007, 10:53
My roomate has one, and I like it quite a bit. The only thing I wish for is some more decent games. Right now they are all, look at me, i'm on the wii. But I wouldn't regret buying one for myself at all.
Captain Asinine
09-08-2007, 10:56
It's a troll!! SHOOT IT!! :sniper::sniper::sniper::sniper:
UpwardThrust
09-08-2007, 10:58
Firstly how old are you? for the love of god

Secondly I buy a console to play novelty games that cant be done better on a computer ... the wii does that at a reasonable price and is fun while drunk and with friends

When I want to seriously game I don't even look at a console
Captain Asinine
09-08-2007, 10:59
ALL HAIL THE UBERSTATION 3 AND GODBOX360!! I want me some Haloz and GTA!!!! Die Nintendo!:gundge:
Thumbless Pete Crabbe
09-08-2007, 10:59
Eh. It looks okay. I'm not going to blow a bunch of money on it, but it looks kinda fun. I don't really play games, though.
Captain Asinine
09-08-2007, 11:00
Eh. It looks okay. I'm not going to blow a bunch of money on it, but it looks kinda fun. I don't really play games, though.



Lucky you! The Wii doesn't play games..It plays horseshit!!:gundge:
Batuni
09-08-2007, 15:42
We've got one.

It's awesome. :)
Chadsylvania
09-08-2007, 15:44
I find you..... amusing. Albeit, in a "what the hell is wrong with you" kind of way.

Clearly, Nintendo did something right, considering that it's outselling all of the current-gen consoles combined. To say nothing of the DS, which butchered the PSP and served its corpse as overpriced appetizers.
Johnny B Goode
09-08-2007, 15:48
Captain Asinine, a few hints. Type withouts CAPS (That's considered shouting) and stop using the stupid set of smilies.
Fleckenstein
09-08-2007, 15:53
Captain Asinine, a few hints. Type withouts CAPS (That's considered shouting) and stop using the stupid set of smilies.

Second fastest I ever put someone on ignore. (Record holder: Ann Coulter's Ideology)
Pure Metal
09-08-2007, 15:54
ALL HAIL THE UBERSTATION 3 AND GODBOX360!! I want me some Haloz and GTA!!!! Die Nintendo!:gundge:

ah this troll's not even funny :(
GreaterPacificNations
09-08-2007, 17:42
Dumbest idea ever? Who owns one and how much do you hate it and wish you got a 360 or a PS3? I love my wii, SO MUCH! It is a literal revolution of gaming technology. Geniuses, rather than participate in the Sony/Microsoft Wang tornument, they just forged a new market.

Controls which tak into regard not just controller proximity, angle (on all axes), and velocity in respect to the screen, but also in respect to it's two-part compents. Genius. Such a system is unmatched in the gaming world. Take FPS. On wii, you can have movement on the stick, aim with the remote, and look with the directional bearing of the nunchuck. That is independent look/aim/move! The best in existence is independant look/move with static look-aim. Good god I love the wii for introducing this. This redeems nintendo for a decade of shit.
Vetalia
09-08-2007, 17:46
I've got a Wii and a PS3. I'm absolutely 100% satisfied with both and would never change my decision if given the option.
Neo Undelia
09-08-2007, 17:48
http://www.somethingawful.com/d/flash-tub/console-wars-2.php
GreaterPacificNations
09-08-2007, 17:51
Don't own one, have played a friends one, the cordless controllers give you RSI and aches something shocking, especially when playing the Tennis game.

Wii sports is made of fail. Absolute inconsolable fail. Play Godfther blackhand if you want a feel for wii use.
GreaterPacificNations
09-08-2007, 18:17
I've got a Wii and a PS3. I'm absolutely 100% satisfied with both and would never change my decision if given the option.Precisely, nintendo has positioned themselves as such that people no longer think whether to buy a nintendo, microsoft, or sony. Instead, the choice of buying a wii is no longer a tradeoff of buy one of the other two. They are now in different markets, and guess who has a monopoly on the hot market?
Egg and chips
09-08-2007, 18:22
You are obviously not a student.

A 24 crate of beer, bottles of vodka, gin and whiskey, and 4 wii-motes.

So. Much. Fun.
Sumamba Buwhan
09-08-2007, 18:24
I want a Wii so bad!

My cousin bought a Wii and she and her roomate both love it. They play Wii Sports mostly. They say it gives them a great workout too.

I want to get it for the shooter games too.
Slaughterhouse five
09-08-2007, 18:33
i have a wii and a 360. the wii is a decent console. it did what it was meant to do. make gaming simple and available to everyone.

now if you bought a wii because you thought it would be a better system than the the 360 or the ps3 thats your own damn fault for not doing research before you bought
GreaterPacificNations
09-08-2007, 18:51
i have a wii and a 360. the wii is a decent console. it did what it was meant to do. make gaming simple and available to everyone.

now if you bought a wii because you thought it would be a better system than the the 360 or the ps3 thats your own damn fault for not doing research before you bought
It is a better system. Not on a linear scale, it actually beats them by playing at a different game. Rather than win the crowd with insane power, speed, teraflops, or whatever, Nintendo simply moved gaming forward a generation, rendering the other elite machines somewhat obsolete in comparison.

Now, people's first order is to buy a wii. Then they think about which of the lesser consoles they want to buy. Don't get me wrong, PS3 is breathtakingly amazing. But it is just a super-ps2. Wii takes gaming to a whole new area of exploration. Nintendo has reinjected the wonder or the new back into gaming.

Somebody asked me the other day "Don't you get sick of playing video games when you are so good?" I didn't really think about it, as I had scumbags to kill, but I pondered later. they were right. I enjoy being good at video games, but it lacks a certain something that I once felt when I was genuinely amazed at the feats I pulled of on a d-pad. Wii has gven that back to me. I have had to learn to play video gmes again. I am no longer a master. The new wave is here, and I love it. I feel genuinely saitisfied in a way playstation could never achieve when I kick the shit out of a filthy Tattaglia Capo and finish off with an execution move which sends his hat flying back in a spatter of blood. Beating him up required the implementation o new skills, I feel as though I am developing and learning again.

I want a PS3 for the awesome games, but I am glad I have a wii for the awesome experience. I am looking forward to Sony's response to Nintendo's newly forged market of upper-tier gaming. There is no way they are going to leave it unexploited, and when they do eventully tap it- it will be great.
Slaughterhouse five
09-08-2007, 18:57
I want a PS3 for the awesome games, but I am glad I have a wii for the awesome experience. I am looking forward to Sony's response to Nintendo's newly forged market of upper-tier gaming. There is no way they are going to leave it unexploited, and when they do eventully tap it- it will be great.

i agree 100% with this statement. the next set of consoles to come out will most likely be a new breed. i see gaming becoming a lot more interactive. I'm sure they have already started planning it into the next console.
GreaterPacificNations
09-08-2007, 19:13
i agree 100% with this statement. the next set of consoles to come out will most likely be a new breed. i see gaming becoming a lot more interactive. I'm sure they have already started planning it into the next console. The second Nintendo unveiled the wii 16 Sony executives would have been publically flayed while the surviving 3 who were 'off sick' frantically went into damage control as they realised they had been done.

It is really a beautiful story. 1 year prior to release nobody would have suspected Nintendo to take the console cup by a landslide while Sony and Microsoft held their dicks in their respective hands. The wii is really not much better than the PS2 in terms of technical capabilities, but it shat all over the worlds most advanced publically available supercomputer.

I just imagine some Nintendo exec in 2004 sitting at a tble of desperate and drunk big wigs in the boardroom suddenly breaking the dread silence following the much pulicised capabilities of the PS3 with "... I have an idea".
Fleckenstein
09-08-2007, 19:16
The second Nintendo unveiled the wii 16 Sony executives would have been publically flayed while the surviving 3 who were 'off sick' frantically went into damage control as they realised they had been done.

It is really a beautiful story. 1 year prior to release nobody would have suspected Nintendo to take the console cup by a landslide while Sony and Microsoft held their dicks in their respective hands. The wii is really not much better than the PS2 in terms of technical capabilities, but it shat all over the worlds most advanced publically available supercomputer.

I just imagine some Nintendo exec in 2004 sitting at a tble of desperate and drunk big wigs in the boardroom suddenly breaking the dread silence following the much pulicised capabilities of the PS3 with "... I have an idea".

?
Occeandrive3
09-08-2007, 19:16
I've got a Wii and a PS3. I'm absolutely 100% satisfied with both and would never change my decision if given the option.same here.

BTW PS3 has directional controllers too.
but I still love playing sword games with the wii "remote" :D
Dakini
09-08-2007, 19:29
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFoyp71xw3w


Needless to say, I want one.
GreaterPacificNations
09-08-2007, 19:32
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PS3, the teraflops that thing is capable of...
Dakini
09-08-2007, 19:36
PS3, the teraflops that thing is capable of...
Apparently my school bought a bunch of PS3s to take them apart and use some of the computer parts in it because they're selling them at a loss too... I can't remember which parts exactly they were after though.
GreaterPacificNations
09-08-2007, 19:41
Apparently my school bought a bunch of PS3s to take them apart and use some of the computer parts in it because they're selling them at a loss too... I can't remember which parts exactly they were after though.
Sony is selling those Deus ex machina at a horrendous loss. The idea is that the periphials an game sales will make backthe money- the idea being if you don't own a console, you can't buy the games, so it is best to hand the consoles out.

Mind you, on the flip side, Sony has invested zip on their advertising campaign (comparatively) hoping that a notably higher price and sheer awesomeness of mechanics will produce a hushed awe viral marketing effect. This worked, as far as I understand, overlooking the thunder which was unexpectedly stolen by the wii.
Occeandrive3
09-08-2007, 19:42
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFoyp71xw3w


Needless to say, I want one.YEAH baby YEAH!!!

Dont you love the vibrating remote too :D

http://www.nitetimetoys.com/toys/img/astrea-i-remote-vibrating-brief_d.jpg
Fleckenstein
09-08-2007, 19:43
Apparently my school bought a bunch of PS3s to take them apart and use some of the computer parts in it because they're selling them at a loss too... I can't remember which parts exactly they were after though.

The cell processors, I bet.

We know Microsoft has lost $1 billion so far, but what about Sony? To think, that is with the 360 outselling the PS3. . .
Occeandrive3
09-08-2007, 19:47
.. they're selling them at a loss too...Yes the industry is like that, they subsidize the Console price, to make money at the end.

The only consoles losing money are the XBOXs ~1 billion $$$$

over-all.. Sony and Nintendo are both making money on their Consoles
Dakini
09-08-2007, 19:50
Sony is selling those Deus ex machina at a horrendous loss. The idea is that the periphials an game sales will make backthe money- the idea being if you don't own a console, you can't buy the games, so it is best to hand the consoles out.
Yeah, but I'm guessing that they didn't plan on universities harvesting parts to use in their own supercomputers and not buying any games at all when they got this idea. :p
GreaterPacificNations
09-08-2007, 19:53
Yeah, but I'm guessing that they didn't plan on universities harvesting parts to use in their own supercomputers and not buying any games at all when they got this idea. :p
Heh.
Skiptard
09-08-2007, 19:54
I find you..... amusing. Albeit, in a "what the hell is wrong with you" kind of way.

Clearly, Nintendo did something right, considering that it's outselling all of the current-gen consoles combined. To say nothing of the DS, which butchered the PSP and served its corpse as overpriced appetizers.

And at the same time, idiots outnumber normal humans.

Theres nothing about the wii that makes it Current gen. Its old hardware slightly updated.

The games are terrible, and extremely boring for someone with an IQ of over 6.


Pc and 360 blow it out of the water in everything. It's a shame idiots don't know anything about good games.. hence why the Wii sells.
Skiptard
09-08-2007, 19:55
Yeah, but I'm guessing that they didn't plan on universities harvesting parts to use in their own supercomputers and not buying any games at all when they got this idea. :p

Well thats all the cell is good for ;)
Dakini
09-08-2007, 19:56
And at the same time, idiots outnumber normal humans.

Theres nothing about the wii that makes it Current gen. Its old hardware slightly updated.

The games are terrible, and extremely boring for someone with an IQ of over 6.


Pc and 360 blow it out of the water in everything. It's a shame idiots don't know anything about good games.. hence why the Wii sells.
Ugh, do you grasp what the idea of video games is? It's not to be some pseudo intellectual "oh look at me, I'm playing sophisticated games" it's to have fun. The wii is fun, I've played one at someone else's house and I really liked it, when I get a decent enough television set (mine is 13"... not much point in getting a wii to play on that thing) and the money to buy one I'm totally buying one because it's fun.

And I'm not an idiot for wanting to have some fun with my video games.
Occeandrive3
09-08-2007, 19:57
And at the same time, idiots outnumber normal humans.

Theres nothing about the wii that makes it Current gen. Its old hardware slightly updated.

The games are terrible, and extremely boring for someone with an IQ of over 6.


Pc and 360 blow it out of the water in everything. It's a shame idiots don't know anything about good games.. hence why the Wii sells.methiks you are calling -most peoples- them "idiots" because they dont agree with you.

Entertainment is a matter of taste/opinion. Just like food and sex.
I dont like them too skinny BTW ;)
Fleckenstein
09-08-2007, 19:59
over-all.. Sony

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3#Sales_and_pricing

The initial production cost has been estimated to be US$805.85 for the 20 GB model and US$840.35 for the 60 GB model;[34] however, they were priced at US$499/C$549 and US$599/C$659, respectively.[35] The high manufacturing costs mean that every unit is sold at a loss of approximately $250,[34] contributing to Sony's games division posting an operating loss of ¥232.3 billion (US$1.97 billion) in the fiscal year ending March 2007.[36]

and Nintendo are both making money on their Consoles

http://kotaku.com/gaming/wii/wii-autopsy-discovers-manufacturing-cost-221736.php

If these guys have done their sums right, Nintendo are making just under $40 profit on every Wii sold

Nintendo is breaking a little over even, and Sony is almost hemorrhaging.
GreaterPacificNations
09-08-2007, 19:59
Yes the industry is like that, they subsidize the Console price, to make money at the end.

The only consoles losing money are the XBOXs ~1 billion $$$$

over-all.. Sony and Nintendo are both making money on their Consoles

Who the fuck wants an Xbox anyway? It is like a shit PS3. The wii is the sole competitor in a superior market of gaming, and the PS3 the the best competitor in the old market. But what is the Xbox? A heavily marketed piece of shit. It isn't revolutionary or impressive. It is like an extension PS2/Xbox/Gamecube generation (3?). The first time I saw the Xbox I must admit to being paralyzingly disappointed. And fearful. Fearful that it accurately set the standard for the new gen o gaming. Luckily it did not.


On a side note, I feel that nintendo is one of those companies, like Apple, which is destined to innovate, and always have the best ideas, only to have the pulled off better by their competitors. As soon as Sony properly makes a counterstrike against the Wii it will pwn. The wii is destined to the same fate as the MacPC (can't even remember what they called it). The one the made IBM big.
New Granada
09-08-2007, 20:01
I'd rather flush my money down a toilet or set it on fire and use it to light a cigar than buy an x-box.

Nintendo hit a walk-off home run with the wii, it is a truly outstanding little machine and returns Nintendo to its former glory in spades.
GreaterPacificNations
09-08-2007, 20:01
And at the same time, idiots outnumber normal humans.

Theres nothing about the wii that makes it Current gen. Its old hardware slightly updated.

The games are terrible, and extremely boring for someone with an IQ of over 6.


Pc and 360 blow it out of the water in everything. It's a shame idiots don't know anything about good games.. hence why the Wii sells.Still bargining with reality?
GreaterPacificNations
09-08-2007, 20:03
Well thats all the cell is good for ;)

Oooh, I sense a dejected fool who jumped on the bandwagon a little early, got an Xbox, and now feels stupid. Left only to regress to irrational fanboy defence of your illfated purchase you will one day purchase and fap over both a wii an an Xbox while a single tear rolls down your cheek.
Occeandrive3
09-08-2007, 20:05
over-all.. Sony and Nintendo are both making money on their Consoles...(PlayStation_3 link)..

Nintendo is breaking a little over even, and Sony is almost hemorrhaging.Breaking NEWS for you Fleckenstein, PS3 is not the only Sony Console.

Like I said
while Sony and Nintendo are making money.. Microsoft is losing ~1 billion $$$ on its Console dept.
GreaterPacificNations
09-08-2007, 20:06
Nintendo is breaking a little over even, and Sony is almost hemorrhaging.
But they aren't even supposed to make money on the consoles. Any revenue from that is a bonus. The only real way to compare the financial performance of each console is to count everything up when the next gen releases (and thus ongoing sales will be neglible to adjudicate a winner). Licensing. It is where the money is at.
Fleckenstein
09-08-2007, 20:06
Who the fuck wants an Xbox anyway? It is like a shit PS3.

Guess that's why more people bought a PS3. Wait.

Also, The 360 has outsold the Wii. Just so you know.

The wii is the sole competitor in a superior market of gaming, and the PS3 the the best competitor in the old market. But what is the Xbox? A heavily marketed piece of shit. It isn't revolutionary or impressive. It is like an extension PS2/Xbox/Gamecube generation (3?)

They are sixth gen systems. And I don't see how PS3 isn't just an "extension" of PS2.

The first time I saw the Xbox I must admit to being paralyzingly disappointed. And fearful. Fearful that it accurately set the standard for the new gen o gaming. Luckily it did not.

Wii did.
GreaterPacificNations
09-08-2007, 20:08
I'm going to admit to a bias here. I wouldn't buy an Xbox even if it was a decent purchase. I despise microsoft that much. I will *not* let Gates fuck consoles like he did PCs.
Occeandrive3
09-08-2007, 20:11
Also, The 360 has outsold the Wii. Just so you know.its because it started selling a year earlier.
The Parkus Empire
09-08-2007, 20:13
Dumbest idea ever? Who owns one and how much do you hate it and wish you got a 360 or a PS3?

I own one and I'm quite happy with it. I'd prefer a GameCube to a 360 or a PS3. If you don't like it, methinks you're getting games that aren't made for it. Get shooter games and such. The Twilight Princess is an excellent game.
GreaterPacificNations
09-08-2007, 20:17
Guess that's why more people bought a PS3. Wait.

Also, The 360 has outsold the Wii. Just so you know. Like I said, the console race isn't a sprint. Forgetting that the Xbox has been out longer than both the PS3 and Wii combined, I'd expect it would have picked up a few sales in it's monopoly period. Depressingly few, though. Anyhow, as I was saying, the only real comprison of performance in the console industrythat can be made is right before the start of the next race.


They are sixth gen systems. And I don't see how PS3 isn't just an "extension" of PS2. The only thing that separtes PS3 as an extension of the PS2 is the incredible jump in the power of the machine. Both Xbox and PS3 lost the point in their mad competition, and just made higher tech version of the same thing. However, the PS3 is so incredibly superior to the PS2 that it is still in fct, IMO, still worth buying despite the fact that it is outclassed in innovation by the wii. The Xbox360, however, is barely noticably better than the Xbox. When I see the PS3 in action, my eyes well up with tears of pride for the human race, when I see the Xbox360 in action I shrug and go and play my PS2.



Wii did.And how... I really didn't see that coming, and boy am I glad to be wrong about nintendo.
Remote Observer
09-08-2007, 20:17
I should write a Wii game called "Fap Fap Fap Fap"
GreaterPacificNations
09-08-2007, 20:19
I own one and I'm quite happy with it. I'd prefer a GameCube to a 360 or a PS3. If you don't like it, methinks you're getting games that aren't made for it. Get shooter games and such. The Twilight Princess is an excellent game.
See, this is more blind fanboyishness. The gamecube was an aptly shaped shitbox. The PS3 is similar to the product of god shitting on a circut board. The Xbox360 runs circles around the abominable disappointment that was the Gamecube (actually, what is more depressin is that Gamecube wasn't that disappointing. Thanks to the N64 people really didn't expect much from nintendo by then).
GreaterPacificNations
09-08-2007, 20:20
I should write a Wii game called "Fap Fap Fap Fap"

*fap fap fap*

... What?
Xiscapia
09-08-2007, 20:22
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/389274
ColaDrinkers
09-08-2007, 20:49
Who the fuck wants an Xbox anyway? It is like a shit PS3. The wii is the sole competitor in a superior market of gaming, and the PS3 the the best competitor in the old market. But what is the Xbox? A heavily marketed piece of shit. It isn't revolutionary or impressive. It is like an extension PS2/Xbox/Gamecube generation (3?). The first time I saw the Xbox I must admit to being paralyzingly disappointed. And fearful. Fearful that it accurately set the standard for the new gen o gaming. Luckily it did not.

What the hell?

A console has one single purpose, and that is to play games. Right now, the 360 is the console with the most good games. Therefore, for most people, a 360 is currently the best buy you can make, especially considering that it's decently priced. Yes, it's because it's been out longer than Wii and PS3, and yes, the competitors will start to look equal or better within a year or so, but that's in a year and not now.

I seriously don't get the hating going on here. We need competition in the console market. It would be a terrible shame if we would end up with a single console maker, because it would lead to worse technology, less innovation and higher prices. You know, if it wasn't for Sony and Microsoft creating more advanced consoles than Nintendo was capable of, we would probably not have the Wii today.
Remote Observer
09-08-2007, 20:50
*fap fap fap*

... What?

You have to admit, that would be a great game, especially with some hentai in the game...
GreaterPacificNations
09-08-2007, 20:55
What the hell?

A console has one single purpose, and that is to play games. I disagree. That is it's functional purpose, yes, but I believe the actul purpose of console system is recreation. Fun. Enjoyment. A bigger range of gmes doesn't necesarily mean more fun (though it often relates). In these circumstances, The Xbox is actually behind, despite it's larger range of games. This is for the primary reason that it doesn't bring anything new to the gaming table, and as such it's gametime is tired. We've had it for years. The PS3 brings incredible graphics to the table, and the wii so much more thn tha. The Xbox is just another console. Right now, the 360 is the console with the most good games. Therefore, for most people, a 360 is currently the best buy you can make, especially considering that it's decently priced. Yes, it's because it's been out longer than Wii and PS3, and yes, the competitors will start to look equal or better within a year or so, but that's in a year and not now.

I seriously don't get the hating going on here. We need competition in the console market. It would be a terrible shame if we would end up with a single console maker, because it would lead to worse technology, less innovation and higher prices. You know, if it wasn't for Sony and Microsoft creating more advanced consoles than Nintendo was capable of, we would probably not have had the Wii today.No hate. Well, I do personally hold a didain for microsof, but that aside; I respect each console for what it is. The wii for a revolution, and the PS3 for a feat of gaming technology. The Xbox360? There just isn't anything special to respect. It is basically a slightly new, better more expensive Xbox. Gates is trying to play the PC gme with consoles, by creeping along with the same shit just more expensive and marginally better. That is not how consoles move. They only come out every half-decade, so you have to innovate. You have to bring something new to the table.
Vetalia
09-08-2007, 21:01
I disagree. That is it's functional purpose, yes, but I believe the actul purpose of console system is recreation. Fun. Enjoyment. A bigger range of gmes doesn't necesarily mean more fun (though it often relates). In these circumstances, The Xbox is actually behind, despite it's larger range of games. This is for the primary reason that it doesn't bring anything new to the gaming table, and as such it's gametime is tired. We've had it for years. The PS3 brings incredible graphics to the table, and the wii so much more thn that.

What the Wii does is that it broadens gaming to pretty much everybody; the cost is low enough for the vast majority of potential customers to afford, and if you want something heavier than the gameplay the Wii offers, you go for the PS3 or Xbox depending on your gaming preference.

Its interactive stuff is kind of gimmicky, and in too many cases detracts rather than adds to gameplay, but it is a new direction that will influence future consoles just like the Sega Genesis or the Playstation. Of course, it's almost impossible for the first of any new style of gameplay to be particularly revolutionary or functional, but it's the sea change in the gaming environment is the important part.
ColaDrinkers
09-08-2007, 21:05
This is for the primary reason that it doesn't bring anything new to the gaming table, and as such it's gametime is tired. We've had it for years. The PS3 brings incredible graphics to the table, and the wii so much more thn tha.

This is bullshit. While the PS3 theoretically has more power, it's much unfriendlier to work with than the 360 which has had the effect that games today usually look better and run at better framerates on the 360 than on the PS3. Even when the average developer gets to know how to get the extra performance out of the PS3 there's not going to be a night and day difference between games for the two consoles, because the difference in performance isn't that big and because the 360 has certain advantages over the PS3, such as more RAM.
Fleckenstein
09-08-2007, 22:09
Like I said, the console race isn't a sprint. Forgetting that the Xbox has been out longer than both the PS3 and Wii combined, I'd expect it would have picked up a few sales in it's monopoly period. Depressingly few, though. Anyhow, as I was saying, the only real comprison of performance in the console industrythat can be made is right before the start of the next race.

Hey, you said the Wii outsold both combined.

The only thing that separtes PS3 as an extension of the PS2 is the incredible jump in the power of the machine. Both Xbox and PS3 lost the point in their mad competition, and just made higher tech version of the same thing. However, the PS3 is so incredibly superior to the PS2 that it is still in fct, IMO, still worth buying despite the fact that it is outclassed in innovation by the wii. The Xbox360, however, is barely noticably better than the Xbox. When I see the PS3 in action, my eyes well up with tears of pride for the human race, when I see the Xbox360 in action I shrug and go and play my PS2.

PS3 and 360 look the same. 360 runs most games at twice the framerate. And, surprisingly,

http://www.sportsbyline.com/img/videogames/NCAA2007/ncaa_05.jpg
http://www.aeropause.com/archives/ncaa07rvw.jpg

There's a difference between the original xbox and the 360.

Not to mention price.

And how... I really didn't see that coming, and boy am I glad to be wrong about nintendo.

What? The Wii did accomplish innovation, much more than either of the other two.
Battistan
09-08-2007, 22:34
The Wii does what other consoles cant right now.

Its trailblazing what I see, as an infinitely better path for console gaming (i.e. a bit of fun in your living room) to take than both XBOX and PS3.

Nuff said.
GreaterPacificNations
09-08-2007, 22:35
What the Wii does is that it broadens gaming to pretty much everybody; the cost is low enough for the vast majority of potential customers to afford, and if you want something heavier than the gameplay the Wii offers, you go for the PS3 or Xbox depending on your gaming preference.

Its interactive stuff is kind of gimmicky, and in too many cases detracts rather than adds to gameplay, but it is a new direction that will influence future consoles just like the Sega Genesis or the Playstation. Of course, it's almost impossible for the first of any new style of gameplay to be particularly revolutionary or functional, but it's the sea change in the gaming environment is the important part. Just try Godfather blackhand, and you will see a glimpse of where the wii mote is heading. They fucked it up with wii sports, it is gimmicky and detracts from an already shit game. However, the actual principle is what makes the wii as brilliant as it is. To me, the accessibility is an afterthought to reinventing the gaming experience.
GreaterPacificNations
09-08-2007, 22:38
This is bullshit. While the PS3 theoretically has more power, it's much unfriendlier to work with than the 360 which has had the effect that games today usually look better and run at better framerates on the 360 than on the PS3. I don't see how user-friendliness improves framrate and aesthetic appeal. Especially because every PS3 game I have seen in action is breathtaking in terms of graphics and smoothness, and every Xbox360 game looks just like my PS2.
GreaterPacificNations
09-08-2007, 22:43
Hey, you said the Wii outsold both combined. My bad, I meant 'outperformed', obviously with the disparity in release times and everything, sales figures are irrelevant. Seriously though, the wii is still selling like hotcakes. Though, another axis on which it isn't fair to compare is that wii is essentially in a separate market to the Xbox and the PS3, and also cost about half their price. Apples and oranges, I suppose. Which is the entire point.

PS3 and 360 look the same. They don't. I'm not citing any figures or anything, but I can tell you the difference between the 360 and the PS3 is very clear. 360 runs most games at twice the framerate. And, surprisingly,

http://www.sportsbyline.com/img/videogames/NCAA2007/ncaa_05.jpg
http://www.aeropause.com/archives/ncaa07rvw.jpg

There's a difference between the original xbox and the 360.

Not to mention price. Oh that, yeah I was being slanderous whore so as to emphasise the relative unimpressiveness of microsofts next 'big step' forward.



What? The Wii did accomplish innovation, much more than either of the other two. And how! Hilarious really, while PS3 and Xbox fight it out for the heavyweight title of Consoledom, nintendo reinvents the gaming world around them and pulls the carpet out from beneath their feet.
Vetalia
09-08-2007, 22:49
And how! Hilarious really, while PS3 and Xbox fight it out for the heavyweight title of Consoledom, nintendo reinvents the gaming world around them and pulls the carpet out from beneath their feet.

I think, though, a big problem will be the games themselves and how they utilize the ideas inherent in the Wii to deliver that new gaming experience. Unfortunately, I'm concerned that Nintendo's developers won't use the potential of this idea to its fullest extent; the last thing I want is to see it buried in endless mediocre Mario clones and sequels of the existing series in the Nintendo lineup.

In other words, I'd rather it be a Sega Genesis than a NeoGeo.
New Stalinberg
09-08-2007, 22:51
Dumbest idea ever? Who owns one and how much do you hate it and wish you got a 360 or a PS3?

Dumbass.

It's the only real new system among the three that offers something different.

In other words, it's not a reincarnation of the Gamecube.
Vetalia
09-08-2007, 22:55
It's the only real new system among the three that offers something different..

That's why I bought it in addition to my PS3. It's good to have something different in addition to the conventional consoles of this generation.

Not to mention I'm not a big fan of Microsoft...
New Stalinberg
09-08-2007, 22:59
You might even say that the wii is hotter (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFoyp71xw3w). ;)
Batuni
09-08-2007, 23:14
See, this is more blind fanboyishness. The gamecube was an aptly shaped shitbox. The PS3 is similar to the product of god shitting on a circut board. The Xbox360 runs circles around the abominable disappointment that was the Gamecube (actually, what is more depressin is that Gamecube wasn't that disappointing. Thanks to the N64 people really didn't expect much from nintendo by then).

Pot. Kettle.

Personally, I also have a 360, and it's pretty cool too. I as yet see no reason to get a PS3. Perhaps that'll change in the future if any interesting-looking exclusives are released on it.

Incidentally, while I'm not going to debate over whether a god would need to shit or not, I can't think that one doing so on a circuit board would improve anything.
Fleckenstein
09-08-2007, 23:20
I think, though, a big problem will be the games themselves and how they utilize the ideas inherent in the Wii to deliver that new gaming experience. Unfortunately, I'm concerned that Nintendo's developers won't use the potential of this idea to its fullest extent; the last thing I want is to see it buried in endless mediocre Mario clones and sequels of the existing series in the Nintendo lineup.

In other words, I'd rather it be a Sega Genesis than a NeoGeo.

Two words: Wii Fencing.
Batuni
09-08-2007, 23:21
I don't see how user-friendliness improves framrate and aesthetic appeal.

I believe he's referring to the fact that it's more difficult to develop for, not the actually use.


Especially because every PS3 game I have seen in action is breathtaking in terms of graphics and smoothness, and every Xbox360 game looks just like my PS2.

Given that every comparison screenshot I've seen shows little to no difference between them, I'll assume that this is due to the power of suggestion. That's actually kinda cool. :)
Caligulala
09-08-2007, 23:30
Got a Wii, 360, and am as happy as can be.
Vetalia
09-08-2007, 23:41
Two words: Wii Fencing.

That would be cool.
GreaterPacificNations
09-08-2007, 23:45
I think, though, a big problem will be the games themselves and how they utilize the ideas inherent in the Wii to deliver that new gaming experience. Unfortunately, I'm concerned that Nintendo's developers won't use the potential of this idea to its fullest extent; the last thing I want is to see it buried in endless mediocre Mario clones and sequels of the existing series in the Nintendo lineup.

In other words, I'd rather it be a Sega Genesis than a NeoGeo.I can't say for sure yet, though I can tell you wii sports did exactly what you feared. I am so far pleased with the Godfather port to wii, which is intuitive and engaging, without being gimmicky or needlessly complex. Never have I felt such a reward for beating a man to the brink of death, shooting out shelves of store stock, or even opening a door with a twitch of my right hand.

They didn't take it as far as they could have, but they have done the best job I have seen yet with the new system. Do try it.
Captain Asinine
09-08-2007, 23:53
And at the same time, idiots outnumber normal humans.

Theres nothing about the wii that makes it Current gen. Its old hardware slightly updated.

The games are terrible, and extremely boring for someone with an IQ of over 6.


Pc and 360 blow it out of the water in everything. It's a shame idiots don't know anything about good games.. hence why the Wii sells.


I likes you! Wii is owned by casuals who never owned a system before!:upyours:
GreaterPacificNations
09-08-2007, 23:55
Pot. Kettle. I accused you of blindly supporting nintendo when you attested that the Gamecube was better than competitor consoles of the subsequent generation (ridiculous, considering it couldn't even compete with it's own). Yet, I zealously adore my nintendo wii. No fanboy there. PS3 is better than the Xbox, but still not as good as the wii in the grand perspective (PS3 is king of the shits, but the wii is the shit of the kings. The first step in a league of it's own).

Personally, I also have a 360, and it's pretty cool too. That is the problem with the Xbox360, it's just 'pretty cool'. There is nothing exceptional about it whatsoever. It is just a better Xbox. I lie, the one impressive thing about both Xboxes was their spectacular marketing campaign. Apart from that, it is an engine of mediocrity. Medium price, medium cool, medium fun. I as yet see no reason to get a PS3. Perhaps that'll change in the future if any interesting-looking exclusives are released on it.

Incidentally, while I'm not going to debate over whether a god would need to shit or not, I can't think that one doing so on a circuit board would improve anything. ... (-_-)... So you decided to take a shot at the 'god-shitting-on-a-circuit-board quip'. *Sigh* I can explain it to you if that is what you require...
GreaterPacificNations
09-08-2007, 23:56
Two words: Wii Fencing.

Just wait for the next Star Wars game for Wii. Wii-sabers!
Captain Asinine
09-08-2007, 23:59
This is bullshit. While the PS3 theoretically has more power, it's much unfriendlier to work with than the 360 which has had the effect that games today usually look better and run at better framerates on the 360 than on the PS3. Even when the average developer gets to know how to get the extra performance out of the PS3 there's not going to be a night and day difference between games for the two consoles, because the difference in performance isn't that big and because the 360 has certain advantages over the PS3, such as more RAM.

They have the same 512 ram you shithead!
GreaterPacificNations
10-08-2007, 00:01
I likes you! Wii is owned by casuals who never owned a system before!:upyours:

Megadrive, NES, SNES, PSX, PS2.

A list of consoles I have personally owned and can positively confirm the wii is better than.

N64, GameCube, Xbox, Xbox360.

A list of consoles I have extensively played and can positively confirm the wii is better than.

PS3

A list of consoles I can only posit through reason that the wii is better than.
Captain Asinine
10-08-2007, 00:03
Megadrive, NES, SNES, PSX, PS2.

A list of consoles I have personally owned and can positively confirm the wii is better than.

N64, GameCube, Xbox, Xbox360.

A list of consoles I have extensively played and can positively confirm the wii is better than.:upyours::upyours::upyours::upyours:

PS3

A list of consoles I can only posit through reason that the wii is better than.


FUCK YOU! The Wii isn't better than the PS3 because you say so fucker!:upyours::upyours:
Sumamba Buwhan
10-08-2007, 00:05
*laughing at people getting bent out of shape over a discussion about game consoles*
Captain Asinine
10-08-2007, 00:06
*laughing at people getting bent out of shape over a discussion about game consoles*ASSHOLES!!:upyours:




Same to you buddy! This thread is full of nintendo fanboys!
GreaterPacificNations
10-08-2007, 00:07
FUCK YOU! The Wii isn't better than the PS3 because you say so fucker!:upyours::upyours:

It is the first system in the next order of gaming. Any direct comparison is irrelevant in light of this.
Sumamba Buwhan
10-08-2007, 00:08
Same to you buddy! This thread is full of nintendo fanboys!

So?
GreaterPacificNations
10-08-2007, 00:09
Same to you buddy! This thread is full of nintendo fanboys!

Actually there has only been one of those. Apart from him, there have been a handful of Xbox fanboys, and as far as I understand, no PS3 fanboys as yet.

The rest of us seem to be rather ambivalent, acknowledging the merits of all.
Captain Asinine
10-08-2007, 00:10
So?:upyours:


Therefore all fair and intelligent thought is void.
Captain Asinine
10-08-2007, 00:11
It is the first system in the next order of gaming. Any direct comparison is irrelevant in light of this.:upyours::upyours:


Next order my fat american tacoo eating ass!!! Not everybody liked this shit~!!!! RESPECT!
Captain Asinine
10-08-2007, 00:12
Actually there has only been one of those. Apart from him, there have been a handful of Xbox fanboys, and as far as I understand, no PS3 fanboys as yet.

The rest of us seem to be rather ambivalent, acknowledging the merits of all.:upyours::upyours::upyours:



Read again! All peopl,e praise the wii as the greatest thing since sliced bread!
Sumamba Buwhan
10-08-2007, 00:12
Therefore all fair and intelligent thought is void.


Obviously.
GreaterPacificNations
10-08-2007, 00:14
Next order my fat american tacoo eating ass!!! Not everybody liked this shit~!!!! RESPECT!

This has been done many times before, and by those much more proficient and entertaining than you.
Captain Asinine
10-08-2007, 00:18
This has been done many times before, and by those much more proficient and entertaining than you. Now go kill yourself bitch!:upyours::upyours::upyours:



:( That wasn't cool. :(
GreaterPacificNations
10-08-2007, 00:20
You know how this forum works, right?
Captain Asinine
10-08-2007, 00:24
You know how this forum works, right?



...........no.
GreaterPacificNations
10-08-2007, 00:25
Evidently.
Captain Asinine
10-08-2007, 00:28
Evidently your a fagbag!



.......................:(
New Stalinberg
10-08-2007, 00:32
You are the fucking goddamn assraping faggot dumbass!


Hey people, according to this shitfuck anybody who doesn't like the Wii is a dumbass!!!!!! WHAT A FUCKTARD!!!:D

By bringing this to the most recent page the forum is one step further to having you banned.
Captain Asinine
10-08-2007, 00:33
By bringing this to the most recent page the forum is one step further to having you banned.

FLAMEBAIT! And you flamed me first by calling me a dumbass!
Captain Asinine
10-08-2007, 00:34
Dumbass.

It's the only real new system among the three that offers something different.

In other words, it's not a reincarnation of the Gamecube.



MODS HE FLAMED ME FIRST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
New Stalinberg
10-08-2007, 00:37
FLAMEBAIT! And you flamed me first by calling me a dumbass!

You're not even worth my time.
Captain Asinine
10-08-2007, 00:39
You're not even worth my time.


Because you know I am right! FLAMER!
Batuni
10-08-2007, 00:51
I accused you of blindly supporting nintendo when you attested that the Gamecube was better than competitor consoles of the subsequent generation (ridiculous, considering it couldn't even compete with it's own). Yet, I zealously adore my nintendo wii. No fanboy there. PS3 is better than the Xbox, but still not as good as the wii in the grand perspective (PS3 is king of the shits, but the wii is the shit of the kings. The first step in a league of it's own).

Not me, actually, although I did like the Cube. I was just calling you on the fact that that's the second time in this thread that you've accused someone of fanboyism while at the same time waxing lyrical about the capabilities of the PS3, even when the evidence was against you.

That is the problem with the Xbox360, it's just 'pretty cool'. There is nothing exceptional about it whatsoever. It is just a better Xbox. I lie, the one impressive thing about both Xboxes was their spectacular marketing campaign. Apart from that, it is an engine of mediocrity. Medium price, medium cool, medium fun.

Enlighten me, then. Exactly what is so stellar and outstanding about the PS3? 'Cause from where I'm sitting it's... well, just a better PS2 (albeit one that plays PS2 games at worse quality than the PS2 - or have they fixed that yet?)

Personally, I chose between the 360 and PS3 due to the games. the 360 has exclusives that I'm interested in, whereas so far any of the games on PS3 I'm interested in are coming to the 360 as well.

... (-_-)... So you decided to take a shot at the 'god-shitting-on-a-circuit-board quip'. *Sigh* I can explain it to you if that is what you require...

Actually, I'd prefer you didn't, I commented on that 'cause I found it quite amusing. The mental imagery of an old guy with a long beard holding his flowing white robes out of the way while he squats, french lavatory style, over a circuit board is just too funny to lose. :D