NationStates Jolt Archive


Tornado in NYC

Marrakech II
09-08-2007, 05:52
Seems odd, anyone witness it?

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/08/08/nyc.weather/index.html
Maraque
09-08-2007, 07:08
Pretty bizarre. NYC is such an urban area with a lot of buildings. It just isn't the optimal location for a tornado.
Wilgrove
09-08-2007, 07:09
That is strange.

*waits for the Global Warming crowd*
New Malachite Square
09-08-2007, 07:17
That is strange.

*waits for the Global Warming crowd*

*crowd arrives*
Should'a watched 'The Day After Tomorrow' before it was too late, folks.

:D
South Lorenya
09-08-2007, 08:14
Just last year there was a tornado here in nassau county, and I commented that we NEVER get tornados here. And now we get one in Brooklyn?

For reference, Sunset Park (the affected area) is only about six miles from ground zero. Rememebr what Hurrican Katrina did to New Orleans? Manhattan is tiny, skinny, and has four times as many people. If the tornado traveled approximately NNE from Sunset Park and stayed active (which is common for most tornados), it probably would have done more damage than Katrina did to NOLA, and CERTAINLY more (in monetary damage, at least) than 9/11 did.
Dinaverg
09-08-2007, 08:22
Just last year there was a tornado here in nassau county, and I commented that we NEVER get tornados here. And now we get one in Brooklyn?

For reference, Sunset Park (the affected area) is only about six miles from ground zero. Rememebr what Hurrican Katrina did to New Orleans? Manhattan nis tiny, skinny, and has four times as many people. If a tornado when (approximately NNE from Sunset Park and stayed active (which is common for most tornados), it probably would have done more damage than Katrina did to NOLA, and CERTAINLY more (in monetary damage, at least) than 9/11 did.

It clearly caused a nearby parentheses factory to explode. I think a few got lost in there.
IDF
09-08-2007, 08:45
Pretty bizarre. NYC is such an urban area with a lot of buildings. It just isn't the optimal location for a tornado.

Tornadoes in the middle of a city are nothing new.

My Dad was round for the Belvidere Tornado outbreak in 1967. One of the tornadoes touched down in Oak Lawn. It traveled 16 miles all the way across the southside of Chicago before disappearing over Lake Michigan.

That tornado was an F4 that killed well over 30 people and injured thousands. I Half the people killed died when the tornado struck the busy intersection of 95th and SW Highway.
IDF
09-08-2007, 08:46
That is strange.

*waits for the Global Warming crowd*

It will be funny to see them explain that this has never happened before as they ignore the 1967 outbreak that devastated Chicago's southside.
Old Tacoma
09-08-2007, 21:20
It will be funny to see them explain that this has never happened before as they ignore the 1967 outbreak that devastated Chicago's southside.

you will get the standard response in that global warming started before we realized there was global warming.
Knights Kyre Elaine
09-08-2007, 21:28
you will get the standard response in that global warming started before we realized there was global warming.

In the end we will realize too late that there is both a natural warming going on with notable additional pressure from human interference in the ecology.
Intestinal fluids
09-08-2007, 21:31
Its just mother natures way of giving NYC a much needed scrubbing and a rinsing. Carry on.
New new nebraska
09-08-2007, 22:43
No, but i was all over the news. Last one in Brooklyn was in 1950. Queens 1985. I didn't catch the rest.
Katganistan
09-08-2007, 22:47
1950? I read in 1889. (though this disagrees.... http://wcbstv.com/topstories/local_story_220172727.html


Not only was the tornado the first ever in recorded history to touch down in Brooklyn, it's also was the first to hit a New York City borough since 1995, when a twister struck Staten Island.

Outside of those two, there have been only two other tornadoes to strike New York City. The first touched down in Queens in 1985 and the second in Staten Island in 1990.)

It was pretty scary -- I was a few miles off, but the wind, rain, lightning and all was scary enough to get me out of bed at 5:30, get me to throw on clothes, stuff the cat into her carrier, and watch the weather reports.

It was so bad outside I didn't fancy leaving, but the giant tree outside the house was a bit worrying, too....
New new nebraska
09-08-2007, 22:51
Pretty bizarre. NYC is such an urban area with a lot of buildings. It just isn't the optimal location for a tornado.

Well urban really has nothing to do with it. Its having the right weather conditions that count. Its just unusuall to happen in NYC. I mean pollution could affect the weather (not headed towards global warming relax) ie:acid rain. And I guess building could affect wind patterns.
New new nebraska
09-08-2007, 22:53
1950? I read in 1889. (though this disagrees....

Well I believe it was actually CBs (maybe NBC) I saw it on. We've onlly been keeping good records for maybe a hundred or so years. 1889 is possible.
IDF
10-08-2007, 02:20
you will get the standard response in that global warming started before we realized there was global warming.
But they will then be ignoring that 1967 was one of the coldest years on record in the Chicago area.
The_pantless_hero
10-08-2007, 02:54
That is strange.

*waits for the Global Warming crowd*

*is tired of idiot grade anti-global warming crowd *
Katganistan
10-08-2007, 02:55
*is tired of idiot grade anti-global warming crowd *

That wasn't precisely a doctoral dissertation response either.
Posi
10-08-2007, 02:56
A misread the title as "Toronto in NYC".
Katganistan
10-08-2007, 02:57
A misread the title as "Toronto in NYC".

Now that WOULD be a trick!
Posi
10-08-2007, 02:58
Now that WOULD be a trick!It would be the last thing NY needs, too.
Vetalia
10-08-2007, 02:59
It would be the last thing NY needs, too.

I just got an idea for a casino...
Barringtonia
10-08-2007, 03:08
I see a Back to the Future sequel involving the need for a Tornado in NYC

Doc - "Damn, we never have tornadoes in New York"
Marty - "But Doc, look at this newspaper"
Doc - "Great Scott!"

We're going through the tail-end of a Typhoon in HK right now - damn pathetic I tell you, nature's a wuss if this is a typhoon.
Old Tacoma
10-08-2007, 03:09
I see a Back to the Future sequel involving the need for a Tornado in NYC

Doc - "Damn, we never have tornadoes in New York"
Marty - "But Doc, look at this newspaper"
Doc - "Great Scott!"

We're going through the tail-end of a Typhoon in HK right now - damn pathetic I tell you, nature's a wuss if this is a typhoon.

Doesn't Hong Kong have a state of the art flood control system under the city for typhoons?
Barringtonia
10-08-2007, 03:12
Doesn't Hong Kong have a state of the art flood control system under the city for typhoons?

I have no idea but the rain does disappear from the streets pretty damn quick so I wouldn't be surprised.
Sel Appa
10-08-2007, 04:14
When I first heard about it, I thought it was a F0 or F1, but an F2!?! That happens once a century I guess. Not a big deal and kinda cool. One woman died indirectly because of it.
Barringtonia
10-08-2007, 07:27
Doesn't Hong Kong have a state of the art flood control system under the city for typhoons?

We've just been upgraded to a type 8 typhoon here in HK effective 3.30pm, about an hour away,

Let's see what this weather can do.
Gauthier
10-08-2007, 07:41
Basically what it boils down to is that the hot front responsible for the 100+ degree weathers in the Eastern U.S. collided with a cold front from Canada, and at their intersection a narrow channel was formed perfect for thunderstorms and tornadoes. Brooklyn just happened to be in that narrow channel.
South Lorenya
10-08-2007, 09:46
They started watching tornados in 1950.
31 years passed before a tornado hit NYC.
In the 22 years since then, three more have hit.
I have a troubled feeling that tornadoes in NYC will become a yearly occurance... :/

Also, they've talked about preparing NYC for hurricanes -- especially since Katrina totalled NOLA -- but I doubt they did any tornado preparedness...
New Genoa
10-08-2007, 10:28
But they will then be ignoring that 1967 was one of the coldest years on record in the Chicago area.

*sigh* When will the global warming denialists learn that the term global warming means an average increase of temperatures worldwide and that the north and south poles are the areas being hit the hardest?:rolleyes:
Rambhutan
10-08-2007, 10:50
...and if they refuse my demand of $10 billion I will destroy their puny American cities with my tornado machine...and they called me crazy.
Katganistan
10-08-2007, 13:49
They started watching tornados in 1950.
31 years passed before a tornado hit NYC.
In the 22 years since then, three more have hit.
I have a troubled feeling that tornadoes in NYC will become a yearly occurance... :/

Also, they've talked about preparing NYC for hurricanes -- especially since Katrina totalled NOLA -- but I doubt they did any tornado preparedness...

I live one block from the water. My hurricane preparations, should a bad one be coming up the coast, include grabbing the cat, packing my laptop, water, and clothes, and going to visit my aunt and uncle in the Catskill mountains.
The antec union
10-08-2007, 14:01
i shal allso destroy there puni canadian citys with my black hole generater if they do not comply to this demmand:$gogolplex:sniper::D:mp5::sniper::D:mp5:
Katganistan
10-08-2007, 14:03
:rolleyes:

A day late and a dollar short, and way too many smilies.
IDF
10-08-2007, 18:58
*sigh* When will the global warming denialists learn that the term global warming means an average increase of temperatures worldwide and that the north and south poles are the areas being hit the hardest?:rolleyes:
Where did that statement deny global warming? All it did is say that it wasn't a factor in the tornado.

When will the NSG posters learn how to read? :rolleyes:
IDF
10-08-2007, 19:51
*is tired of idiot grade anti-global warming crowd *

I find it funny that someone who can't grasp E=mc^2 is so well versed in science.
Darknovae
10-08-2007, 21:12
I'm surprised that NYC got a tornado... it's quite uncommon for the East Coast to get tornadoes.

Whether this had anything to do with global warming, however, I will not say.
Marrakech II
10-08-2007, 21:20
Whether this had anything to do with global warming, however, I will not say.


Withholding information eh?