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Blur or Oasis?

Evil Turnips
08-08-2007, 19:11
Hey everybody, it's the nineties again!

So.... Blur or Oasis?
I'm torn, but I'm verging towards Oasis, because I think they've much more staying power... I don't see people fifty years from now singing, "Confidence is a preference for the habitual voyeur of what is known as...".

What about you?
United Beleriand
08-08-2007, 19:27
Blur.
Oasis is untalented crap. and misbehaved.
Newer Burmecia
08-08-2007, 19:28
Blur FTW.
Infinite Revolution
08-08-2007, 19:37
christ, this is an old debate. blur's music has probably aged better and they have at least got some still creative members. i am still a fan of oasis' first 3 albums though.
Egg and chips
08-08-2007, 19:56
Oasis are better overall, but blur have the best song.

(Song 2, to be precise) :D
Londim
08-08-2007, 20:00
Blur. I can still see songs like Parklife, Song 2 and Charmless Man all being sang in 50 years time.
Jello Biafra
08-08-2007, 20:01
Oasis. Blur is pretty much a one hit wonder.
Szanth
08-08-2007, 20:23
I've only heard that one Blur song (EH-WOOOOOOOHOOOOOO WHEN I FIMA DE FERRO, WOOOOHOOOOO, AND I FIMA DE FERRO... ... I don't know the actual words, I can't understand the singer).

Oasis was often said to be the next Beatles. I dunno if I'd go that far, but they were decent.
Jello Biafra
08-08-2007, 20:26
I've only heard that one Blur song (EH-WOOOOOOOHOOOOOO WHEN I FIMA DE FERRO, WOOOOHOOOOO, AND I FIMA DE FERRO... ... I don't know the actual words, I can't understand the singer).Like I said, they're pretty much a one hit wonder.
They have other good songs, though.
Rubiconic Crossings
08-08-2007, 20:28
Blur.

Damon Albarn.

/eof
Heretichia
08-08-2007, 20:29
Oasis. They made some wicked shit. Now they are just shit. But the old stuff is great.
Nadkor
08-08-2007, 20:37
Like I said, they're pretty much a one hit wonder.
They have other good songs, though.

One hit wonder?

Seriously? Blur were huge. Two UK No. 1s (Song 2 not being one of them), and 11 top 10s over 6 years...for a rock band that's outstanding.
Szanth
08-08-2007, 20:52
One hit wonder?

Seriously? Blur were huge. Two UK No. 1s (Song 2 not being one of them), and 11 top 10s over 6 years...for a rock band that's outstanding.

They were 1-hit Wonders in the US.
Rubiconic Crossings
08-08-2007, 20:54
They were 1-hit Wonders in the US.

Yeah...but the US doesn't count ;)
German Nightmare
08-08-2007, 20:54
Neither one.
Rubiconic Crossings
08-08-2007, 20:57
Neither one.

Yeah...you folks have the Hoff ! LOL!
Swilatia
08-08-2007, 20:59
Hey everybody, it's the nineties again!
Sorry, but they year 2007 is pronounced as "two thousand seven", "two thousand and seven", "twenty o seven", "two double o seven", or "(insert translation here)", not "nineteen ninety seventeen". So it's not the 90's anymore.
Oh, and as foor the question, I can't answer, as I have never heard of either group.
Andaluciae
08-08-2007, 21:02
Wait? It's the nineties again? Does this mean I have to go back to dial-up, or have to pay exhorbitant fees for roadrunner?
Rubiconic Crossings
08-08-2007, 21:04
Sorry, but they year 2007 is pronounced as "two thousand seven", "two thousand and seven", "twenty o seven", "two double o seven", or "(insert translation here)", not "nineteen ninety seventeen". So it's not the 90's anymore.
Oh, and as foor the question, I can't answer, as I have never heard of either group.

Blur and Oasis were big in the 1990's...are you always this obtuse on purpose?
Rhursbourg
08-08-2007, 21:44
cant rember listeing to either that much spent the nighties mostly listening to the Levellers
Rasselas
08-08-2007, 21:46
Well as a Manc I have to say...Blur. Oasis always irritated me.
Compulsive Depression
08-08-2007, 21:57
Blur and Oasis were big in the 1990's...are you always this obtuse on purpose?

Yes.

And I'm not sure, they both rate "medium-good" in my estimation. Hmm. I kinda missed music before about 1997 or so, so it was all out of context...
Yootopia
08-08-2007, 22:03
Blur. Especially since Gorillaz came into the mainstream.

Oasis are simply The Beatles-lite. Not really a fan.
Edinburgh City Council
08-08-2007, 22:14
<<enters 90s mode >>

Blur have the most talent. Undoubtedly.
Hey have you heard this great new song called "All That She Wants" it's by a great new band call Ass Of Bass. It's groovilicious.

<<exits 90s mode >>

Aaaaaaarrrrrgggghhhhh! My brain hurts.....
Kilmarnockshire
08-08-2007, 22:19
Hello -

I'm not really into these forums as I find the ides of guys typing about imaginary wars, invading galaxies that they have thought up and all that a bit, well...weird.

BUT -

When I saw the title of this thread I thought I would give it a wee bash.

As a reasonably young guy from the UK (24 and 5/6ths to be precise) I have always though that Oasis are/were/will always be much better than Blur. To someone my age doing the things that I did when I was younger and still do I suppose, Blur had very little to offer me - other than Song 2 when you're pished jumping about like a maddy on the dancefloor. In anycase, Fuckin in the Bushes is a much better tune than Song 2 to get you going.

Oasis though...Oasis were and are the soundtrack to a Saturday night, songs that make you want to grab your mates, get pissed, 'have it' so to speak and f*** anyone that gets in your way. Blur was for the posh, soft lads that stayed in the arty pubs all night talking about Dosteovsky and global famines. Oasis were for the boys that didn't care about all that for the weekend and just wanted to take on the world head on and have a good time.

I might be getting a wee bit too deep for what is basically a poll question, but this debate raged on when I was at school. Only 2 of the boys said Blur. They were the geeky ones, not sure if that's a conincidence.
Compulsive Depression
08-08-2007, 22:26
Actually I don't s'pose it really matters; Radiohead are clearly better than both combined. ¬_¬
Neo Undelia
08-08-2007, 22:31
Who?
Compulsive Depression
08-08-2007, 22:32
Who?

That's a joke, right?
Neo Undelia
08-08-2007, 22:34
That's a joke, right?

Why would it be?
Yootopia
08-08-2007, 22:44
Actually I don't s'pose it really matters; Radiohead are clearly better than both combined. ¬_¬
And Portishead are 8x as good as Radiohead.
Compulsive Depression
08-08-2007, 22:45
Why would it be?

You've never heard of Radiohead (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiohead)?
They're just not exactly unusual or obscure, is all... Their most famous albums are The Bends (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bends) and OK Computer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OK_Computer).

The sound quality on YouTube is dire so I won't link to anything there...
Sci-Fi Lovers 2
08-08-2007, 23:10
Oasis are brilliant, i own all there albulms.
The Infinite Dunes
08-08-2007, 23:32
They say comfort foods are foods you used to eat when you are younger and in times of stress you revert back to these and they provide a source of comfort. My Mum used to play a lot of music when I was younger and most of it cemented in my mind and I feel oddly comforted whenever I hear it - if perhaps slightly embarrassed and ashamed at the same time for some reason. I think Blur is one of the last bands that made it into that list.

Other bands that make it on to the list are the Fine Young Cannibals, Elvis Costello, Shakespeare's Sisters, Eurythmics, Stereo MCs and others.

Anyway... Oasis is verging on emo... they just pre-date the term slightly.
Neo Undelia
09-08-2007, 00:19
You've never heard of Radiohead (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiohead)?

I think they were once mentioned on an episode of family guy, but beyond that no.
Rasselas
09-08-2007, 00:31
They say comfort foods are foods you used to eat when you are younger and in times of stress you revert back to these and they provide a source of comfort. My Mum used to play a lot of music when I was younger and most of it cemented in my mind and I feel oddly comforted whenever I hear it - if perhaps slightly embarrassed and ashamed at the same time for some reason. I think Blur is one of the last bands that made it into that list.

Other bands that make it on to the list are the Fine Young Cannibals, Elvis Costello, Shakespeare's Sisters, Eurythmics, Stereo MCs and others.

Ah, same here. Except my Mum listened to Rolf Harris, the BeeGees, and M People :p
Jello Biafra
09-08-2007, 02:17
You've never heard of Radiohead (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiohead)?
They're just not exactly unusual or obscure, is all... Their most famous albums are The Bends (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bends) and OK Computer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OK_Computer).
They're one hit wonders, too.
New Malachite Square
09-08-2007, 02:19
Ew, the 90s. :p
Nadkor
09-08-2007, 02:20
They're one hit wonders, too.

I'm actually flabbergasted....Radiohead...regarded amongst many, many millions worldwide as one of the most original, inventive, and just all round oustanding bands ever....one-hit wonders?

What?
Jello Biafra
09-08-2007, 02:22
I'm actually flabbergasted....Radiohead...regarded amongst many, many millions worldwide as one of the most original, inventive, and just all round oustanding bands ever....one-hit wonders?

What?Don't fret, they're in good company.

From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_hit_wonder

"Here are some other criteria that also affect a performer’s status as a one-hit wonder:

Jimi Hendrix, Frank Zappa, Lou Reed, Radiohead, Phish, Janis Joplin, The Grateful Dead, Iggy Pop, Faith No More, Siouxsie and the Banshees, The Church,and System of a Down each had only one Billboard Top 40 hit but are rarely, if ever, considered one-hit wonders. These performers are known for other successes, like album or concert ticket sales, critical acclaim, strong fan followings, or influence on other musicians. Jancik, however, includes many of these artists, as they fall within his strict definition as a single act with a single top-40 placement.

Many popular British artists like Frankie Goes to Hollywood, Robbie Williams, BBMak, All Saints, Billie Piper, Busted and Take That are considered one-hit wonders in the US, although the listed artists were very popular in Britain."
The blessed Chris
09-08-2007, 02:23
Blur.

Oasis have altered their style over time to better appeal to a popular audiance, and are also hampered by having the two biggest pricks in British music in the Gallagher brothers. Equally, Blur's lyrics are rather more enduring, engaging and thought provoking than the anthemic stylings of Oasis.

Incidentally, Oasis are not fucking emo. The use of guitars is at odds with what might be termed "emo", they lack the energy of the likes of Hit the Lights, Story of the Year or Alexisonfire, and the vocals are monotone.
New Malachite Square
09-08-2007, 02:27
Many popular British artists like Frankie Goes to Hollywood, Robbie Williams, BBMak, All Saints, Billie Piper, Busted and Take That are considered one-hit wonders in the US, although the listed artists were very popular in Britain."

Billie Piper had a hit? Huh.
I don't know much about her pop singer status.
Nadkor
09-08-2007, 02:28
Don't fret, they're in good company.

From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_hit_wonder

"Here are some other criteria that also affect a performer’s status as a one-hit wonder:

Jimi Hendrix, Frank Zappa, Lou Reed, Radiohead, Phish, Janis Joplin, The Grateful Dead, Iggy Pop, Faith No More, Siouxsie and the Banshees, The Church,and System of a Down each had only one Billboard Top 40 hit but are rarely, if ever, considered one-hit wonders. These performers are known for other successes, like album or concert ticket sales, critical acclaim, strong fan followings, or influence on other musicians. Jancik, however, includes many of these artists, as they fall within his strict definition as a single act with a single top-40 placement.

Many popular British artists like Frankie Goes to Hollywood, Robbie Williams, BBMak, All Saints, Billie Piper, Busted and Take That are considered one-hit wonders in the US, although the listed artists were very popular in Britain."

Yeah...the one Radiohead's in is followed by "but are rarely, if ever, considered one-hit wonders"...not really sure what your point was with that? :p

Anyway, looking at what they take the be the "British" definition, "In the United Kingdom, the term one-hit wonder is used to describe a singer or band who had only one hit reach the Top 75 on the UK Singles Chart", Radiohead have had 16 "hits" out of 17 singles (and four No.1s out of 6 albums). Just because Radiohead haven't had huge singles success in the US (well, they have had their last 3 albums in the top 3, including a No.1) doesn't make them one-hit wonders...
Jello Biafra
09-08-2007, 02:34
Billie Piper had a hit? Huh.
I don't know much about her pop singer status.Apparently she had a few hits in the UK. I've never heard of her.

Yeah...the one Radiohead's in is followed by "but are rarely, if ever, considered one-hit wonders"...not really sure what your point was with that? :pThat it's understandable that Neo Undelia hasn't heard of them. (Though I'm sure he'd recognize "Creep" if he heard it.)

Anyway, looking at what they take the be the "British" definition, "In the United Kingdom, the term one-hit wonder is used to describe a singer or band who had only one hit reach the Top 75 on the UK Singles Chart", Radiohead have had 16 "hits" out of 17 singles (and four No.1s out of 6 albums). Just because Radiohead haven't had huge singles success in the US (well, they have had their last 3 albums in the top 3, including a No.1) doesn't make them one-hit wonders...As far as the US is concerned, it does.

I find it fascinating how many artists had lengthy careers in the rest of the world but only had one hit here. Who would've known a-ha did something after "Take On Me"? (technically, they were two hit wonders, but nobody knows their other hit song.)
Nadkor
09-08-2007, 02:38
That it's understandable that Neo Undelia hasn't heard of them. (Though I'm sure he'd recognize "Creep" if he heard it.)

My Granny probably hasn't heard of them, but that doesn't make them one-hit wonders...

As far as the US is concerned, it does.

I find it fascinating how many artists had lengthy careers in the rest of the world but only had one hit here. Who would've known a-ha did something after "Take On Me"? (technically, they were two hit wonders, but nobody knows their other song.)

Well, to be fair to Radiohead, they've only released two singles in the US, and the second is not exactly a good song. They're albums have done well there, as have their tours.
Nadkor
09-08-2007, 02:41
Billie Piper had a hit? Huh.
I don't know much about her pop singer status.

Yeah, that's how she originally got "famous".
Jello Biafra
09-08-2007, 02:45
My Granny probably hasn't heard of them, but that doesn't make them one-hit wonders...True.

Well, to be fair to Radiohead, they've only released two singles in the US, and the second is not exactly a good song. They're albums have done well there, as have their tours.Certainly.
Nonetheless, simply because they're one hit wonders doesn't mean they're bad. As I said, they're in the same category as Janis Joplin.
However, their lack of radio airplay (other than "Creep") will hamper Neo Undelia's ability to hear them.
Nadkor
09-08-2007, 02:49
Certainly.
Nonetheless, simply because they're one hit wonders doesn't mean they're bad. As I said, they're in the same category as Janis Joplin.
However, their lack of radio airplay (other than "Creep") will hamper Neo Undelia's ability to hear them.

At the same time, anybody with a passing interest in "alternative" music is bound to have heard the name Radiohead once or twice and, by extension, be at least familiar with their existence, even if they aren't familiar with their creative output...
The blessed Chris
09-08-2007, 02:57
At the same time, anybody with a passing interest in "alternative" music is bound to have heard the name Radiohead once or twice and, by extension, be at least familiar with their existence, even if they aren't familiar with their creative output...

Quite true. Doesn't change the fact that the Smiths are better than them, Oasis and Blur all in one though....:p
Jello Biafra
09-08-2007, 11:48
At the same time, anybody with a passing interest in "alternative" music is bound to have heard the name Radiohead once or twice and, by extension, be at least familiar with their existence, even if they aren't familiar with their creative output...Certainly.
Neo U doesn't seem to be that big a fan of music in general, though.
Peisandros
09-08-2007, 12:30
Oasis FTW.
Barringtonia
09-08-2007, 12:43
Definitely Maybe is a better album than Blur ever put out but the problem with Noel Gallagher is that he's so one-dimensional that you can get about 2 albums out of that kind of music - which is about what they managed.

Blur, or specifically Albarn, has a chord change technique that, while it doesn't always produce good music, has a better chance of remaining surprising, hence they can get more albums out.
AKKisia
09-08-2007, 13:07
Blur. Oasis is more famous for their hissy fits than their music. And I'm not just saying this because an old classmate of mine had "Happyshinypeople" as one of his emails.:rolleyes::p

Edit: Billie Piper was quite popular in the UK and much of Asia. Yes, I have 2 of her albums. :p

She looks kind of like a young Kylie Minogue. These days, she's more famous ala Paris Hilton and less famous ala *insert female singer with fairly squeaky clean image*. Oh, and one of my cousins looked a bit like her on the cover of her first album.
Saxnot
09-08-2007, 14:16
"Same old pub-rock bollocks" but I like it. :p
Peepelonia
09-08-2007, 14:17
Well now at the risk of sounding old, can we go back to the 80's and ask Poison or Guns and Roses?
Johnny B Goode
09-08-2007, 14:32
Guns N' Roses.
Politeia utopia
09-08-2007, 14:44
Blur, definitely Blur. Staying power or no staying, power Blur is brilliant.
Peepelonia
09-08-2007, 15:49
Blur, definitely Blur. Staying power or no staying, power Blur is brilliant.

Ohh you know who else is brilliant? The Who is also brilliant!;)
GrandBill II
09-08-2007, 16:38
Arg, where's the other/nothing/joke option when you REALLLLLLLY need it?
Bitchkitten
09-08-2007, 16:51
Definitely Blur. Song 2 is hardly the only thing they put out.
And Radiohead rules.
Small House-Plant
09-08-2007, 17:31
No joke option? :(
Pezalia
09-08-2007, 17:40
Blur were a bit arty-farty. Oasis had more guts and passion.