NationStates Jolt Archive


NSG & Iraq

Siylva
08-08-2007, 18:49
I just want to see something about NSG:

How many here have served in Iraq?
How many here haven't served in Iraq but want to?
How many here have family in Iraq?
How many here have friends in Iraq?
How many here are for the war?
How many here are against the war?
Swilatia
08-08-2007, 19:05
all of us here are against the war, except for a select few posters we like to call trolls.
CoallitionOfTheWilling
08-08-2007, 19:06
all of us here are against the war, except for a select few posters we like to call trolls.

Because anyone who doesn't agree with you is a troll.
Remote Observer
08-08-2007, 19:09
Because anyone who doesn't agree with you is a troll.

That's the NSG official definition.
Siylva
08-08-2007, 19:12
all of us here are against the war, except for a select few posters we like to call trolls.

Not everyone who is for the war is a troll.

...

Are they? Is there anyone out there who is for the war who hasn't been caught trolling?
Gift-of-god
08-08-2007, 19:16
I was looking for the option:

'Is not entirely sure whether the war is good or bad, but does not support he way the war is currently being managed"

Because I think getting rid of dictators is a good idea, but creating dangerous and violent power vacuums is a bad idea.
Remote Observer
08-08-2007, 19:23
Not everyone who is for the war is a troll.
...
Are they? Is there anyone out there who is for the war who hasn't been caught trolling?

Almost everyone here has been accused of trolling, and nearly all of those have either been warned by mods or actually banned for a while.

That includes people who are for the war, and people who are against it.
Marrakech II
08-08-2007, 19:24
all of us here are against the war, except for a select few posters we like to call trolls.

Don't assume anything. I support regime change in Iraq. I am a Desert Storm veteran. I have a younger brother in Baghdad right now. I have family friends that are in both Afghanistan and Iraq at this moment.
Marrakech II
08-08-2007, 19:25
Not everyone who is for the war is a troll.

...

Are they? Is there anyone out there who is for the war who hasn't been caught trolling?


Never been warned or even accused of trolling and am for the general operation. However I do disagree with how it was performed.
Remote Observer
08-08-2007, 19:26
Don't assume anything. I support regime change in Iraq. I am a Desert Storm veteran. I have a younger brother in Baghdad right now. I have family friends that are in both Afghanistan and Iraq at this moment.

I was in Desert Storm, have been in Iraq and Afghanistan more recently, have cousins in both Iraq and Afghanistan, and a large number of friends in both places.

Of course, that makes us both evil sons of bitches in the eyes of NS General.
Jawistobig
08-08-2007, 19:28
This war is just another US planned war against 3rd world nations. Every since WWII the United States of America have been at war with a third world country up to date. We have always meddled where we don't belong, and will continue to do so as long as corporations are in control of the country. It has been debated that this war is for oil, other debate its for the weapons weapon manufactures, and fewer believe the fact that this war is based on a morality issue to overthrow an evil dictator and free the people. These people are the people who believe what THEY say to believe. In my opinion, it is nothing more then furthering the progression of Fascism through out the world. Not Democracy. Fascism is defined as a merger between corporations and government united. I think all we are doing in Iraq is making new real estate options so we can put up a wal mart, Mc donalds. Basically we want to reslave the people into our world of consumerism. A world where you have to make rich richer to survive. The system, as we revolutionists call it, is a system based on money by the people who have it all. And The United States is trying to globalize the system with The New World Order.
Marrakech II
08-08-2007, 19:31
Of course, that makes us both evil sons of bitches in the eyes of NS General.

I could care less what the majority of the people on NSG think to be honest. I ignore the more flagrant anti-war types and will respond to anyone that seems to have a level head but is just stating their opinion against the war.
Gift-of-god
08-08-2007, 19:37
USMC Leathernecks is also for the war and is not a troll.
Greater Trostia
08-08-2007, 19:38
I was in Desert Storm, have been in Iraq and Afghanistan more recently, have cousins in both Iraq and Afghanistan, and a large number of friends in both places.

Of course, that makes us both evil sons of bitches in the eyes of NS General.

No, you're an evil son of a bitch because you LIKE killing. "Killing Muslims is better than sex," remember? Your own admission.

Of course, that's assuming you aren't lying about the whole thing, just as you lied about being Deep Kimchi.
Remote Observer
08-08-2007, 19:40
No, you're an evil son of a bitch because you LIKE killing. "Killing Muslims is better than sex," remember? Your own admission.

Of course, that's assuming you aren't lying about the whole thing, just as you lied about being Deep Kimchi.

It's certainly better than sex when they shoot first, and then you open up with the coax.

When they start running, and think they're safe running behind a stone wall, and the 25mm opens up, and you see chunks of their bodies and intestines fly up in the air, it's actually hilarious.
Nodinia
08-08-2007, 19:44
It's certainly better than sex when they shoot first, and then you open up with the coax.

When they start running, and think they're safe running behind a stone wall, and the 25mm opens up, and you see chunks of their bodies and intestines fly up in the air, it's actually hilarious.

(and then you wake up and wipe the drool off your face)

Thats what they mean when they associate "troll" and "for the war" allright. Anybody who is for the war and thinks they get treated like some whinging wanna-be "Kill TEH MUSLIMZ" type, remember you have RO and a few of his AKA's to blame.
New Brittonia
08-08-2007, 19:45
My dad was in Iraq
Siylva
08-08-2007, 19:48
It's certainly better than sex when they shoot first, and then you open up with the coax.

When they start running, and think they're safe running behind a stone wall, and the 25mm opens up, and you see chunks of their bodies and intestines fly up in the air, it's actually hilarious.

See, this may be why people call you a troll.

No offense, but maybe if you stopped going on about how shooting people is so awesome & hilarious, people wouldn't ignore things you say & call you a troll.

Its about how you present things. You can enjoy killing others for all I care, just don't be so cheerful about it.
Fleckenstein
08-08-2007, 19:49
It's certainly better than sex when they shoot first, and then you open up with the coax.

When they start running, and think they're safe running behind a stone wall, and the 25mm opens up, and you see chunks of their bodies and intestines fly up in the air, it's actually hilarious.

My stomach turned. To think I had at least some respect for you.
Remote Observer
08-08-2007, 19:50
My stomach turned. To think I had at least some respect for you.

They knew it would be dangerous to shoot at us. Or fatal.
Terrorem
08-08-2007, 19:51
Ignorance isn't bliss to the surrounding population.
Remote Observer
08-08-2007, 19:51
Its about how you present things. You can enjoy killing others for all I care, just don't be so cheerful about it.

When you live, and they die, and for a moment you thought there might be a chance you would die, it's a rush that cannot be explained to someone like you.

And it makes me glad I'm alive. Happy. Cheerful.
Fleckenstein
08-08-2007, 19:53
They knew it would be dangerous to shoot at us. Or fatal.

Not the killing. Honestly, people die.

Enjoying it, in a suspiciously sadistic hidden feelings manner.
Nodinia
08-08-2007, 19:55
Not the killing. Honestly, people die.

Enjoying it, in a suspiciously sadistic hidden feelings manner.

Or fantasising about it, as the case may be.
Remote Observer
08-08-2007, 19:56
Or fantasising about it, as the case may be.

I can send you the video.
Fleckenstein
08-08-2007, 19:57
I can send you the video.

Could you youtube it and TG me the link?
Greater Trostia
08-08-2007, 19:57
It's certainly better than sex when they shoot first, and then you open up with the coax.

When they start running, and think they're safe running behind a stone wall, and the 25mm opens up, and you see chunks of their bodies and intestines fly up in the air, it's actually hilarious.

Q.E.D.
Similization
08-08-2007, 19:59
Crap.. Add a vote to the "Got friends there" crowd. Apparently Sim's too daft to operate a multiple choice poll.
FreedomAndGlory
08-08-2007, 20:03
While I haven't physically served in Iraq, nor have I enlisted in any branch of the military, I nonetheless lend decisive aid to the cause of freedom through other means; I suppose one could say that I participated in the Iraq War in the capacity of a civilian discharging his duty in the field of psychological operations.
Audland
08-08-2007, 20:03
^^ In other words, you whine at people when they don't support it? Or do you treat people when they come home. If it's the latter, I respect you. The former, eh, not so much.

My brother has friends in Iraq, and his ex-girlfriend is in the Israeli army (not Iraq, I know. But she's really nice, and it's kind of a shame). Some people in my dad's reserve unit were put on the ground, despite being in their late 40s and in a Navy reserve unit. My cousin will probably be going to Iraq pretty soon.
Brutland and Norden
08-08-2007, 20:04
It's certainly better than sex when they shoot first, and then you open up with the coax.

When they start running, and think they're safe running behind a stone wall, and the 25mm opens up, and you see chunks of their bodies and intestines fly up in the air, it's actually hilarious.
Please tell me you are just kidding.
Ifreann
08-08-2007, 20:05
Poll fails due to lack of "Never served, don't want to" option.
Ifreann
08-08-2007, 20:07
While I haven't physically served in Iraq, nor have I enlisted in any branch of the military, I nonetheless lend decisive aid to the cause of freedom through other means; I suppose one could say that I participated in the Iraq War in the capacity of a civilian discharging his duty in the field of psychological operations.

Short version: "I didn't serve, but clicked 'I did' on the poll anyway"
Fleckenstein
08-08-2007, 20:09
While I haven't physically served in Iraq, nor have I enlisted in any branch of the military, I nonetheless lend decisive aid to the cause of freedom through other means; I suppose one could say that I participated in the Iraq War in the capacity of a civilian discharging his duty in the field of psychological operations.

CIA?
FreedomAndGlory
08-08-2007, 20:10
Enjoying it, in a suspiciously sadistic hidden feelings manner.

When malicious fiends oppose the cause of freedom and democracy, devilishly attempting to halt our noble crusade, it is natural to revel in seeing the remains of their sickly twisted minds slowly oozing down a wall, their severed, contorted limbs lying limply on the ground, never to brutalize the Iraqi people or maim our soldiers again, and their intestines grossly bulging out of the bloody mess that was their stomach. They are evil incarnate; they deserve this fate and nothing less.
FreedomAndGlory
08-08-2007, 20:11
CIA?

No, but I ardently and vociferously argued in favor of the war on forums such as this and in real life.
FreedomAndGlory
08-08-2007, 20:12
Short version: "I didn't serve, but clicked 'I did' on the poll anyway"

Actually, I did not select that option as I never set foot in Iraq.
Fleckenstein
08-08-2007, 20:14
When malicious fiends oppose the cause of freedom and democracy, devilishly attempting to halt our noble crusade, it is natural to revel in seeing the remains of their sickly twisted minds slowly oozing down a wall, their severed, contorted limbs lying limply on the ground, never to brutalize the Iraqi people or maim or soldiers again, and their intestines grossly bulging out of the bloody mess that was their stomach. They are evil incarnate; they deserve this fate and nothing less.

:) I love the smell of racial hatred in the morning.
Great Void
08-08-2007, 20:14
CIA?

NSG Task Force.
Currently deployed as a troll trying to make the pro-war people look stupid.
Ifreann
08-08-2007, 20:14
No, but I ardently and vociferously argued in favor of the war on forums such as this and in real life.
And in doing so, how exactly have you helped the war effort?
Actually, I did not select that option as I never set foot in Iraq.

Fail poll remains accurate. Go about your business peoples.
Fleckenstein
08-08-2007, 20:15
No, but I ardently and vociferously argued in favor of the war on forums such as this and in real life.

You don't fit the DOD definition. Are you undercover?
Greater Trostia
08-08-2007, 20:15
When malicious fiends oppose the cause of freedom and democracy, devilishly attempting to halt our noble crusade, it is natural to revel in seeing the remains of their sickly twisted minds slowly oozing down a wall, their severed, contorted limbs lying limply on the ground, never to brutalize the Iraqi people or maim or soldiers again, and their intestines grossly bulging out of the bloody mess that was their stomach. They are evil incarnate; they deserve this fate and nothing less.

One troll washes the other.
Newer Burmecia
08-08-2007, 20:17
No, but I ardently and vociferously argued in favor of the war on forums such as this and in real life.
Which, if anything, makes people more inclined to be against it.
Andaluciae
08-08-2007, 20:18
I've had friends and family serve in Iraq, and my position is more nuanced than "for" or "against" the war. I, personally, have not served.
Siylva
08-08-2007, 20:18
When malicious fiends oppose the cause of freedom and democracy, devilishly attempting to halt our noble crusade, it is natural to revel in seeing the remains of their sickly twisted minds slowly oozing down a wall, their severed, contorted limbs lying limply on the ground, never to brutalize the Iraqi people or maim or soldiers again, and their intestines grossly bulging out of the bloody mess that was their stomach. They are evil incarnate; they deserve this fate and nothing less.

You have a gift with flamboyant word usage.
Fleckenstein
08-08-2007, 20:18
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12948772&postcount=25

Just a heads up.
Newer Burmecia
08-08-2007, 20:19
You have a gift with flamboyant word usage.
I think F&G and The Blessed Chris should have a competition.
Andaluciae
08-08-2007, 20:20
While I haven't physically served in Iraq, nor have I enlisted in any branch of the military, I nonetheless lend decisive aid to the cause of freedom through other means; I suppose one could say that I participated in the Iraq War in the capacity of a civilian discharging his duty in the field of psychological operations.

Sorry budd-o, but that's plain bullshit.
Fleckenstein
08-08-2007, 20:20
I think F&G and The Blessed Chris should have a competition.

"1st Annual NSG Hate-Off!"
Siylva
08-08-2007, 20:21
No, but I ardently and vociferously argued in favor of the war on forums such as this and in real life.

And you failed to convince anyone who was against the war on NSG to change their minds.

If anything, you've strengthened the opposition.

And seeing the results here, I doubt you've changed anyone's mind in real life.
Remote Observer
08-08-2007, 20:24
And you failed to convince anyone who was against the war on NSG to change their minds.

If anything, you've strengthened the opposition.

And seeing the results here, I doubt you've changed anyone's mind in real life.

Neither have you. :rolleyes:
Newer Burmecia
08-08-2007, 20:27
"1st Annual NSG Hate-Off!"
:eek:

You're telling me we haven't had one before?
Brutland and Norden
08-08-2007, 20:30
:eek:

You're telling me we haven't had one before?
Either those were unofficial, or that NSG had them daily instead of annually.
Gravlen
08-08-2007, 20:32
Almost everyone here has been accused of trolling, and nearly all of those have either been warned by mods or actually banned for a while.

That includes people who are for the war, and people who are against it.
Making stuff up again?

Of course, that makes us both evil sons of bitches in the eyes of NS General.
Only because you want it to.
While I haven't physically served in Iraq, nor have I enlisted in any branch of the military, I nonetheless lend decisive aid to the cause of freedom through other means; I suppose one could say that I participated in the Iraq War in the capacity of a civilian discharging his duty in the field of psychological operations.
http://www.freesmileys.org/emo/happy081.gif

Funniest thing you've ever posted! Well done!
Neither have you. :rolleyes:
Siylva has a bigger chance, though...
Remote Observer
08-08-2007, 20:36
Making stuff up again?
No, because it's true.

Siylva has a bigger chance, though...

No. I doubt that anyone is going to change their minds on NS General at this point.

The odds are zero either way.
Siylva
08-08-2007, 20:40
Neither have you. :rolleyes:

What, tried to change people's minds?

First of all, I don't try to change people's minds when it comes to the war. I know people are to set in their views to change them. I just point out when they're wrong, like now.;)

Secondly, I'm not the one who post inflammatory bullshit day-in & day-out on NSG.

I'm going to bet you have little to no credibilty on NSG, or in life.
Remote Observer
08-08-2007, 20:49
What, tried to change people's minds?

First of all, I don't try to change people's minds when it comes to the war. I know people are to set in their views to change them. I just point out when they're wrong, like now.;)

Secondly, I'm not the one who post inflammatory bullshit day-in & day-out on NSG.

I'm going to bet you have little to no credibilty on NSG, or in life.

Really? Wrong? You haven't proven anyone wrong yet. No links, no evidence - not even an argument.

Just saying "you're wrong" is gainsaying. Look, I can do it too - "you're wrong".

No credibility? Maybe on this forum - and maybe with some of the posters here.

Plenty of credibility on other forums - and I get paid for my opinions in real life.
Great Void
08-08-2007, 20:54
- and I get paid for my opinions in real life.
How does that work?
Siylva
08-08-2007, 20:54
No credibility? Maybe on this forum - and maybe with some of the posters here.

Plenty of credibility on other forums - and I get paid for my opinions in real life.

Who's willing to bet its stormfront?
Andaluciae
08-08-2007, 20:59
Godwin!
Brutland and Norden
08-08-2007, 21:02
Plenty of credibility on other forums - and I get paid for my opinions in real life.
Oooh. I like that job. Seriously.
Similization
08-08-2007, 21:07
How does that work?He stands in front of shops like Wallmart and McDeath, and shout nonsense to they pay him to go away :p

- Sorry RO, couldn't help it. No offence intended.
Nodinia
08-08-2007, 21:14
I can send you the video.

I could send you the video.


and I get paid for my opinions in real life..

So it would seem...... (http://www.lifeandlibertyministries.com/archives/Tom%20photo%20for%20tract.JPG)
The Atlantian islands
08-08-2007, 21:14
He stands in front of shops like Wallmart and McDeath, and shout nonsense to they pay him to go away :p

- Sorry RO, couldn't help it. No offence intended.
LOL...I couldn't help but laugh when I read "McDeath".:D
Yootopia
08-08-2007, 22:18
While I haven't physically served in Iraq, nor have I enlisted in any branch of the military, I nonetheless lend decisive aid to the cause of freedom through other means; I suppose one could say that I participated in the Iraq War in the capacity of a civilian discharging his duty in the field of psychological operations.
No, you couldn't say that, because your rantings actually turn people against your viewpoint ;)



I've had friends serve there and another's going in about 6 months unless we're out of Iraq by then - in which case he's off for a lovely trip to Helmand province.

I'm against the war, but somewhat undecided on the stay / pull out issue. I'd be quite happy for the US to pull its men out and just have European forces who train hard for peacekeeping, but that's unlikely to happen soon, if you sort of understand what I mean.
Neo Undelia
08-08-2007, 22:20
I got a buddy over there. Brilliant programmer. Hope he comes back.
New Stalinberg
08-08-2007, 22:34
If I could go back in time and prevent it I would, but packing up and leaving wouldn't be the right thing to do at the moment.
Ifreann
08-08-2007, 22:37
Neither have you. :rolleyes:

Where did he claim he did? Whether we change anyone's mind in real life has nothing to do with F'n'G's "contribution" to the war effort.
Gravlen
08-08-2007, 23:51
No, because it's true.

That most posters have been warned or banned by the mods? I don't believe that 'tall.


No. I doubt that anyone is going to change their minds on NS General at this point.

The odds are zero either way.
Disillusioned, are we?