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So we all know it's a favorite pastime in Iraq and Gaza, but if your country was under occupation by a foreign nation, would you and your buddies form your own militia - take up arms, plant IED's etc? Or would you just do your best to stay out of any conflict?

Were such a thing to happen, I already have a plan...

...I prefer not to discuss details, but I'll be making things difficult for "teh enemy"

Damn right we would, :sniper: and if we couldn't do that we would form some sort of passive resistance, anything to get the invaders out!!!

I always fail to see the idea of an invading power greater than my own, being to my benefit. Maybe I need a 'Superpower Awareness Course' to help me adjust to regime changes :D

Being aware that this makes me a hypocrite, since I think any country that the US occupies should leave our troops alone, I would find ways to resist, up to and including, bombing, sniping, sabotage.

A lot of the offending foreigners would be killed in whatever passes for humvees wherever they came from, without a doubt.

If the offending party were odious enough, I wouldn't have any qualms about resisting, either violently or non-. It's not at all likely, but it's not completely impossible, I guess. :p

Impossible to answer honestly without more context. If it was a similar situation to Iraq- foreign intervention that removes a murderous tyrant- I wouldn't be actively attacking them.

If, on the other hand, it was France in WW2, I'd like to think that I'd be part of the Resistance, hanging out in the maquis. But in reality I probably wouldn't have the guts to do so.

I'd emmigrate. Who the hell wants to live in an occupied country?

I'd leave. Who wants to get shot for fucking dirt.

Its just a broad black Brimmer......

Wow xenophobia in action huh!

Not one person asking for clarifacation, what are the aims and ideals of this invading force, are they here to make life better or worse for us?

Just foreingers, in our country! How dare they, lets kick em out.

I would have to accesrtian first, what their intent was, before I could give an honest answer.

Meh, if my country gets invaded, I'll see you in Canada:p

Not one person asking for clarifacation, what are the aims and ideals of this invading force, are they here to make life better or worse for us?

Well, I'm sure that you're well aware that no matter how lofty the goals and ideals of this invading force may be, military occupations are rarely pleasant things for the country being occupied. See here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-invasion_Iraq%2C_2003%E2%80%932006) for details.

Well, lets see here, in order for America to be invaded by someone our government would have to be completely gone, because if we had any of our ICBMs no one would make it over here.

If anyone did, I'd fight a brutal war against them and anyone who supported them. I wouldn't bitch about them targeting "innocent" people either, because in a war everyone is either providing direct or indirect support. For all the people who would run to Canada.....
When we took the country back do you really think you'd be coming back?

They need a noose face on here. Nothing is worse than a coward.

Well, lets see here, in order for Iraq to be invaded by someone our government would have to be completely gone, because if we had any of our non existent WMDs no one would make it over here.

If anyone did, I'd fight a brutal war against them and anyone who supported them. I wouldn't bitch about them targeting "innocent" people either, because in a war everyone is either providing direct or indirect support. For all the people who would run to Jordan and Syria.....
When we took the country back do you really think you'd be coming back?

They need a noose face on here. Nothing is worse than a coward.

See how that works idiot?

Well, I'm sure that you're well aware that no matter how lofty the goals and ideals of this invading force may be, military occupations are rarely pleasant things for the country being occupied. See here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-invasion_Iraq%2C_2003%E2%80%932006) for details.

Heh it always boils back down to that huh!

Nobody is immune to the after effects of haveing had their country of origin invaded in the past, believe me I'm English I know these things.

USA all white people there are immigrants, same as Oz, and NZ. There was no such thing as Pakistan until after our invasion of India was done and dusted. Invasion has shaped the modern world, violence is mankinds lot in life.

The point I was raising was one of kneejerk reaction vs rational thinking. It is valid, no? The OP made no referance to the idea behind this invasion, yet everybody made a kneejerk response and thought only the worse and answered accordingly, I merely wanted to point that out.

Well, lets see here, in order for America to be invaded by someone our government would have to be completely gone, because if we had any of our ICBMs no one would make it over here.

If anyone did, I'd fight a brutal war against them and anyone who supported them. I wouldn't bitch about them targeting "innocent" people either, because in a war everyone is either providing direct or indirect support. For all the people who would run to Canada.....
When we took the country back do you really think you'd be coming back?

They need a noose face on here. Nothing is worse than a coward.

Ohh I don't know I could at least eat with a coward without spiting my food into his face, not sure I could do that with a bigot!:D

Well, lets see here, in order for America to be invaded by someone our government would have to be completely gone, because if we had any of our ICBMs no one would make it over here.

If anyone did, I'd fight a brutal war against them and anyone who supported them. I wouldn't bitch about them targeting "innocent" people either, because in a war everyone is either providing direct or indirect support. For all the people who would run to Canada.....
When we took the country back do you really think you'd be coming back?

They need a noose face on here. Nothing is worse than a coward.

Yep, rule one is 'Never let the occupation normalise'. If they sit to crap, they check for bombs first. Selling milk to them is made as dangerous as selling information....

You're occupying Iraq, aren't you?

So we all know it's a favorite pastime in Iraq and Gaza, but if your country was under occupation by a foreign nation, would you and your buddies form your own militia - take up arms, plant IED's etc? Or would you just do your best to stay out of any conflict?

I would most definitely take up arms but as to IEDs, no because innocent civilians could get hurt if it blows up at the wrong moment.

Well, lets see here, in order for America to be invaded by someone our government would have to be completely gone, because if we had any of our ICBMs no one would make it over here.

Maybe not.

If Obama was President, he would never, ever use our nuclear weapons on anyone for any reason.

So they would make it here.

I like how people think it is easy to stop being an ordinary civilian with zero combat experience and suddenly become an effective insurgent.

There's a reason why the kill ratio of palestinians vs. IDF, or Iraqi insurgents vs. US troops in firefights is so lopsided - currently running at 30 or 40 to 1 (sometimes higher).

Making IEDs that work and kill the people you want to kill are hard for inexperienced people to use without killing themselves. One of the reasons for the suicide bomber is that you have someone sitting right there making sure it goes off at the right time - and which of you would volunteer for that?

As for the claim of sniping - unless sniping to you means shooting at less than 50 yards, and having the rest of the patrol pick your bits off the street after they fire a SMAW into your hide - that's harder than you think.

It's just not as easy as picking up a weapon, and running out to fight - most people with zero experience end up dying very quickly.

I like how people think it is easy to stop being an ordinary civilian with zero combat experience and suddenly become an effective insurgent.

There's a reason why the kill ratio of palestinians vs. IDF, or Iraqi insurgents vs. US troops in firefights is so lopsided - currently running at 30 or 40 to 1 (sometimes higher).

Making IEDs that work and kill the people you want to kill are hard for inexperienced people to use without killing themselves. One of the reasons for the suicide bomber is that you have someone sitting right there making sure it goes off at the right time - and which of you would volunteer for that?

As for the claim of sniping - unless sniping to you means shooting at less than 50 yards, and having the rest of the patrol pick your bits off the street after they fire a SMAW into your hide - that's harder than you think.

It's just not as easy as picking up a weapon, and running out to fight - most people with zero experience end up dying very quickly.

Somebody hasn't seen Red Dawn... ;)

Somebody hasn't seen Red Dawn... ;)

Yes, I have, and unlike you, I know it's a movie.

Ok, enough time inside on the computer for you. Time for you to go outside and play Real Life(tm)

Yes, I have, and unlike you, I know it's a movie.

Ok, enough time inside on the computer for you. Time for you to go outside and play Real Life(tm)

I think he was joking, hence the ;)

Yes, I have, and unlike you, I know it's a movie.

Ok, enough time inside on the computer for you. Time for you to go outside and play Real Life(tm)

Jeez, lighten up a little. I know NSG is serious business and all but I thought it was pretty damn obvious I wasn't being serious. I even added a ;) .....

See how that works idiot?

Roflpwnt!

Jeez, lighten up a little. I know NSG is serious business and all but I thought it was pretty damn obvious I wasn't being serious. I even added a ;) .....

I know you were joking. Just because I don't put a smiley on there doesn't mean that I don't notice.

So we all know it's a favorite pastime in Iraq and Gaza, but if your country was under occupation by a foreign nation, would you and your buddies form your own militia - take up arms, plant IED's etc?

What do you mean 'if'?

What do you mean 'if'?

Touché.

Well, lets see here, in order for America to be invaded by someone our government would have to be completely gone, because if we had any of our ICBMs no one would make it over here.

If anyone did, I'd fight a brutal war against them and anyone who supported them. I wouldn't bitch about them targeting "innocent" people either, because in a war everyone is either providing direct or indirect support. For all the people who would run to Canada.....
When we took the country back do you really think you'd be coming back?

They need a noose face on here. Nothing is worse than a coward.
You say that now ... until your wife or kids sitting at home take a bullet to the head while going out to get food or something

Then you would be bitching ...that or you are an in-human monster

You say that now ... until your wife or kids sitting at home take a bullet to the head while going out to get food or something

Then you would be bitching ...that or you are an in-human monster

Maybe he's tired of being married.

Maybe he's tired of being married.

True (Though I would still call him inhuman if death of his spouse was an option) but I put child in there too :)

True (Though I would still call him inhuman if death of his spouse was an option) but I put child in there too :)

That only makes him an 11, on the scale of evil.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most_Evil#The_scale_of_evil

I'm only an 04 on the scale...