NationStates Jolt Archive


Fun At Parties

Remote Observer
07-08-2007, 17:52
Next time you're hosting a party, bring along this fun flashlight, and you'll need a new carpet before you can say "Vomit!"

http://www.homelandsecurity.org/snapshots/newsletter/2007-07.htm#sick

Its inventors call it the LED Incapacitator (L-E-D, as in light-emitting diode). Weapons buffs call it a nonlethal weapon. But test subjects who have buckled and reeled from its nauseating strobe call it other names—none printable.

A flashlight designed to make you nauseatingly ill? What fiendish minds would invent such a tool? The minds of Bob Lieberman and Vladimir Rubtsov, president and senior scientist of Intelligent Optical Systems, Inc., a small R&D company in Torrance, CA. Under a multiphase contract from the S&T Directorate’s Small Business Innovation Research (SBIR) Office, with technical direction from S&T program manager Gerald Kirwin, the two physicists are refining an ultra-bright, multicolored, pulsing “lightsaber” that’s more disorienting, dazzling, and dizzying—though a tad less dangerous—than disco. It’s enough to make you sick. And that, Lieberman says, is not always a bad thing.

How does the LED Incapacitator incapacitate? By simultaneously overwhelming the subject both physiologically (temporarily blinding him) and psychophysically (disorienting him). A built-in rangefinder measures the distance to the nearest pair of eyeballs. Then, a “governor” sets the output and pulse train (a series of pulses and rests) to a level, frequency, and duration that are effective, but safe. The colors and pulses continuously change, leaving no time for the brain or eyes to adapt. After a few minutes, the effects wear off.

The light could be used to make a bad guy turn away or shut his eyes, giving authorities enough time to tackle the suspect and apply the cuffs … all while sparing the lives of passersby, hostages, or airline passengers.
An animated cross section shows how red, green, and blue LEDs are focused through an optical plate.

“There are often confrontations at border crossings with suspected illegal aliens or drug runners,” Lieberman says. “You don’t want to hurt or kill them, just take them into custody. With this,” he smiles, “they don’t need to know English to comply.”

Output and size can easily be scaled up to fit the need; immobilizing a mob, for instance, might call for a wide-angle “bazooka” version. Scaling down is more difficult. At 15 inches long by 4 inches wide, the current prototype is more transportable than portable. The next-generation weapon must be as short and svelte as a D-cell Maglite, designed to fit on a duty belt. “Phase 3 will be our shrink phase,” Lieberman says.

This fall, in Phase 2, researchers at Pennsylvania State University will test the LED Incapacitator on volunteers at the school’s Institute of Nonlethal Defense Technology. Intelligent Optical Systems will use the test results to evaluate design features and tweak the strobe’s pattern and colors. “There’s one wavelength that gets everybody,” says Lieberman. “Vlad calls it the evil color.” Further tests are scheduled for the fall, and production could begin by December. By 2010, the LED Incapacitator could be in the hands of thousands of policemen, border agents, and National Guardsmen.

Considering that last thread where there were accusations that the police beat people (no real proof either way in the pics - so I'm waiting to hear news stories of how police were convicted of brutality), would you be happier if (when the police have a lawful order to disperse a crowd - not for unlawful use against a crowd) they used a large version of this device to force people to leave or vomit?

Would you stay and keep puking, or would you leave?
Damor
07-08-2007, 17:59
Would you stay and keep puking, or would you leave?Maybe put on sunglasses?

I wonder if it's equally effective on most people.
Kryozerkia
07-08-2007, 18:02
If it's a crowd of bulimics, they'll be happy. :)
Remote Observer
07-08-2007, 18:03
Maybe put on sunglasses?

I wonder if it's equally effective on most people.

Apparently, it's constantly shifting frequencies, to catch everyone, although the article mentions one frequency that "works on everybody".

Not sure if sunglasses would work. If it's bright enough to be near blinding, ordinary commercial sunglasses probably won't spare you from the strobe effect.

Maybe welder's goggles.

The "defense" is apparently "turn away and cover your eyes", which makes it really easy to arrest you.
Remote Observer
07-08-2007, 18:03
If it's a crowd of bulimics, they'll be happy. :)

They'll probably buy their own.
Pure Metal
07-08-2007, 18:20
i can see LG having lots of fun with one of those ;)
Remote Observer
07-08-2007, 18:24
i can see LG having lots of fun with one of those ;)

LG would probably serve everyone alcohol first, then after a couple hours of partying, break out the "Ralph-O-Matic 3000"
Damor
07-08-2007, 18:29
Bringing a large reflector should be fun. That way the coppers can go puking themselves. :p
JuNii
07-08-2007, 18:34
Next time you're hosting a party, bring along this fun flashlight, and you'll need a new carpet before you can say "Vomit!"

http://www.homelandsecurity.org/snapshots/newsletter/2007-07.htm#sick



Considering that last thread where there were accusations that the police beat people (no real proof either way in the pics - so I'm waiting to hear news stories of how police were convicted of brutality), would you be happier if (when the police have a lawful order to disperse a crowd - not for unlawful use against a crowd) they used a large version of this device to force people to leave or vomit?

Would you stay and keep puking, or would you leave?


I wonder if it will affect color blind people...
Kyronea
07-08-2007, 18:38
Apparently, it's constantly shifting frequencies, to catch everyone, although the article mentions one frequency that "works on everybody".

Not sure if sunglasses would work. If it's bright enough to be near blinding, ordinary commercial sunglasses probably won't spare you from the strobe effect.

Maybe welder's goggles.

The "defense" is apparently "turn away and cover your eyes", which makes it really easy to arrest you.

Sounds like a great tool for law enforcement. Who needs to shoot the firearm-toting criminal when you can just make him overly nauseated and capture him so he has a chance to change for the better?

Of course...like tasers...it needs to be used carefully so as to avoid abuse...
Remote Observer
07-08-2007, 18:39
Sounds like a great tool for law enforcement. Who needs to shoot the firearm-toting criminal when you can just make him overly nauseated and capture him so he has a chance to change for the better?

Of course...like tasers...it needs to be used carefully so as to avoid abuse...

Yeah, but who wants a puke-covered suspect in the back of his police car?
Kyronea
07-08-2007, 18:41
Yeah, but who wants a puke-covered suspect in the back of his police car?

I'd rather have a puke-covered suspect than a dead suspect. The puke is but a temporary nuisance.
Aarch
07-08-2007, 21:06
Yeah, but who wants a puke-covered suspect in the back of his police car?I'd rather have a puke-covered suspect than a dead suspect. The puke is but a temporary nuisanceDoubt that you're gonna see that many dead suspects in the back of a police car though. ;)

Can you imagine that being used at a demonstration and hundreds of people vomiting all over the place? Can't wait to see the pictures.:D
Nodinia
07-08-2007, 21:06
I'd rather have a puke-covered suspect than a dead suspect. The puke is but a temporary nuisance.


Thats the kind of weak thinking that bars you from the dynamic world of Ass-Hole Law Enforcment. Next thing you'll be telling me that you won't stop an obviously black man in a car.

(A lot of parties end up with flashing lights, chaos. cops and puke anyway, I used find.)
Lunatic Goofballs
07-08-2007, 21:15
LG would probably serve everyone alcohol first, then after a couple hours of partying, break out the "Ralph-O-Matic 3000"

I'm going to buy stock. :cool:
New Malachite Square
07-08-2007, 21:15
The light could be used to make a bad guy turn away or shut his eyes, giving authorities enough time to tackle the suspect and apply the cuffs … all while sparing the lives of passersby, hostages, or airline passengers.

Heh heh… Hamburgler. :p
German Nightmare
07-08-2007, 21:42
_______________http://www.studip.uni-goettingen.de/pictures/smile/puke.gif
http://www.studip.uni-goettingen.de/pictures/smile/puke2.gif Should I stay or should I go now? http://www.studip.uni-goettingen.de/pictures/smile/doublepuke.gif


I wonder what that will do to an epileptic?
Ifreann
07-08-2007, 21:48
I think I may invest in reflective sunglasses.
Johnny B Goode
07-08-2007, 21:49
Next time you're hosting a party, bring along this fun flashlight, and you'll need a new carpet before you can say "Vomit!"

http://www.homelandsecurity.org/snapshots/newsletter/2007-07.htm#sick



Considering that last thread where there were accusations that the police beat people (no real proof either way in the pics - so I'm waiting to hear news stories of how police were convicted of brutality), would you be happier if (when the police have a lawful order to disperse a crowd - not for unlawful use against a crowd) they used a large version of this device to force people to leave or vomit?

Would you stay and keep puking, or would you leave?

I'd puke on an officer's shoe, then leave.
New Granada
07-08-2007, 22:30
What do these cost? I would be willing to pay a lot for one.