Australian Elections
Andaras Prime
07-08-2007, 07:25
Well since it's highly speculated by many political commentators (including OzPolitics) in Australia that we will be having our federal elections as early as in the next 2 months, I have decided to ask NSG Australians their favorite party and who they will be giving their preferences too when the election is called.
Hannelore Rulez
07-08-2007, 07:31
Labor. Liberals are fascist bastards.
Jeruselem
07-08-2007, 08:26
Voting Labour to get rid of GW Bush, sorry John Howard.
Lunatic Goofballs
07-08-2007, 08:28
Elections? Wow. I thought you guys wrestled a crocodile for it. ;)
Howard screws over everyone who is working class or underclass. So I hope someone screws him over.
Also we need less funding for the yarts, and less for this bullshit "war on terror" and more funding for infrastructure, healthcare etc.
John Howard = :mad: :sniper: = Me
Non Aligned States
07-08-2007, 08:36
Elections? Wow. I thought you guys wrestled a crocodile for it. ;)
Nah. It's a 500km marathon in a kangaroo pouch followed by crocodile wrestling. And then after that they've got to contend with 2,000 angry boomerang and rifle wielding aborigines. The last leg of the contest is to climb ayers rock. With their bare hands.
Poll seems a little biased to me.
Yaltabaoth
07-08-2007, 08:38
Elections? Wow. I thought you guys wrestled a crocodile for it. ;)
Yes, but then Steve Irwin died, so now we need an election to replace him.
Lunatic Goofballs
07-08-2007, 08:41
Nah. It's a 500km marathon in a kangaroo pouch followed by crocodile wrestling. And then after that they've got to contend with 2,000 angry boomerang and rifle wielding aborigines. The last leg of the contest is to climb ayers rock. With their bare hands.
What? No Koala toss?
Non Aligned States
07-08-2007, 08:49
Not really. They took that out due to dwindling numbers. Now it's political assistant discus throwing. The assistant is tied up and the incumbent has to see how far he can toss him. The further the better.
They consider it a sign of trust. The whole "trust him as far as I can throw him" thing you see.
Boonytopia
07-08-2007, 09:02
Poll seems a little biased to me.
What makes you say that? It lists the main Australian parties.
I'll be voting Green.
Australiasiaville
07-08-2007, 09:50
Green 1, Labor 2, or however it works.
Technically speaking the election doesn't have to be held until January IIRC. What sort of rationale did OzPolitics use to come to this conclusion? Tradition or what? Do they have an article about it?
John Howard is a sad, sad little man who needs to stop ruling the country like it's just an economy and start ruling the country like it is a country of people.
Yes Labor put us in debt when they were in power, but they revolutionized the foundations of Health and Education, bring us back up and above standards.
John Howard, Mr "I <3 YouTube," you do NOT appeal to the younger generations, especially since you are taking away OUR livelihood!
Go work out that you are too old and too backward thinking for this generation.
Get Out, Go Home.
GreaterPacificNations
07-08-2007, 15:39
I am genuinely not taken by any of the parties. The coalition are socially conservative fucktards. Labour is not economically liberal enough. The greens are just a little too batshit insane for me, and the Democrats not enough of anything. Australia needs a libertarian party, socially, politically, and economically permissive.
GreaterPacificNations
07-08-2007, 15:39
Elections? Wow. I thought you guys wrestled a crocodile for it. ;)
Yeah, but we stack the odds by electing which parties wrestle which crocs. What else would we elect???
SimNewtonia
07-08-2007, 15:52
The Libs have successfully managed to lose me as a voter.
Until the IR reforms. I'll admit their management of the economy was fairly good. But they haven't invested in important infrastructure. I know, for example, that railways are a state responsibility, but there is provision in the constitution for the feds to build with permission of the states.
I'd vote green if they weren't completely insane. They do have some good ideas. Right now, my priority on this is to get Coward out of politics. He's had long enough, and has clearly lost touch.
Labor with enough Greens to give the environment a bit of a voice would be a good balance IMHO.
Also, we really need more independents in the Senate.
Australiasiaville
08-08-2007, 03:01
I am genuinely not taken by any of the parties. The coalition are socially conservative fucktards. Labour is not economically liberal enough. The greens are just a little too batshit insane for me, and the Democrats not enough of anything. Australia needs a libertarian party, socially, politically, and economically permissive.
There actually is a libertarian party. They are not registered with the AEC but have three members in three states, apparently: wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_Party_%28Australia%29) | official site (http://www.libertarianparty.org.au/).
Domdadadomdom
08-08-2007, 05:37
Huh. 25% Liberal or National voters so far. They seem pretty quiet.
Barring some APEC-inspired terrorist attack and subsequent fear campaign I think the Libs are finally gone.
Jeruselem
08-08-2007, 05:45
Huh. 25% Liberal or National voters so far. They seem pretty quiet.
Barring some APEC-inspired terrorist attack and subsequent fear campaign I think the Libs are finally gone.
The Libs try to catch terrorists and get ... no one.
Andaras Prime
08-08-2007, 05:46
Australiasiaville if you believe Rudd he's an economic 'conservative', he also seems to be playing up the whole Blair/Clinton Third Way appeal.
Australiasiaville
08-08-2007, 06:00
Australiasiaville if you believe Rudd he's an economic 'conservative', he also seems to be playing up the whole Blair/Clinton Third Way appeal.
lol, not sure what I said that had anything to do with that but I did have a bit of a laugh at those ads. Of course Rudd is trying to paint himself as being similar to Howard as far as the economy is concerned. I guess they are worried that the public still has the image in their head that Labor isn't good with the economy so are trying to borrow from the previous government's image.
Honestly though, what is economic conservatism? I know that in trade both parties are pretty liberal, so care to explain what policies, domestic I guess, are conservative?
Boonytopia
08-08-2007, 09:15
Huh. 25% Liberal or National voters so far. They seem pretty quiet.
Barring some APEC-inspired terrorist attack and subsequent fear campaign I think the Libs are finally gone.
I really hope we do get ride of the Libs, they disgust me. I'm still expecting the Labour party to fall apart though, or Howard to pull some bullshit miracle out of the bag.
Domdadadomdom
08-08-2007, 12:08
I'm still expecting ... Howard to pull some bullshit miracle out of the bag.
I surely can't happen again. I reckon by this stage though it won't work, it seems people have finally clicked that it is only through this kind of crap that they get elected everytime. National security, kids overboard, interest rates, etc etc.
Looking forward to a few of those snide bastards complaining from opposition next year. (That's a little too aggressive probably, apoligies to Liberal fans if so :D.)
Australiasiaville
08-08-2007, 12:29
I surely can't happen again. I reckon by this stage though it won't work, it seems people have finally clicked that it is only through this kind of crap that they get elected everytime. National security, kids overboard, interest rates, etc etc.
Looking forward to a few of those snide bastards complaining from opposition next year. (That's a little too aggressive probably, apoligies to Liberal fans if so :D.)
No way, that will be one of the sweetest things I'll ever see. In fact I wouldn't mind getting a framed picture of the front bench of the opposition on the first sitting day of parliament after the election.
Just on a slightly different note, I can't express my disdain for when Howard and Costello in particular claim that you can't trust Labor with the economy and point back to when they were last in power as proof, as if Keating and whoever was treasurer back then actually relates to Rudd and Swan. On the 7:30 Report tonight O'Brien put that point to Costello and then Costello claimed that you could look at Queensland when they were both working for Goss, as if they actually had any control of the state's economy from their positions.
SimNewtonia
08-08-2007, 12:36
In addition the last time Labor were in, I believe they got caught holding the bag, basically. That recession was GOING to happen, regardless.
In addition, the government itself has no direct control over interest rates, it's the RBA, which acts completely independent of the government. Few voters seem to understand this, or I suspect they'd have ditched the Libs a while back.
Australiasiaville
08-08-2007, 13:41
In addition the last time Labor were in, I believe they got caught holding the bag, basically. That recession was GOING to happen, regardless.
In addition, the government itself has no direct control over interest rates, it's the RBA, which acts completely independent of the government. Few voters seem to understand this, or I suspect they'd have ditched the Libs a while back.
And that seems to have come back to bite the Libs in the ass after they spent the last election campaign promising (or sneakily implying at the least) that they will keep interest rates at record lows.
Jeruselem
08-08-2007, 14:00
The government's IR campaigns are interesting, one was pulled off because one of the actors was actually a employer, pretending to be a concerned father about his son being ripped off. And it turns up, he hasn't been paying his own staff properly including his own son.
GreaterPacificNations
08-08-2007, 18:08
Huh. 25% Liberal or National voters so far. They seem pretty quiet.
Probably just US conservatives 'doing their duty'.
Sel Appa
08-08-2007, 23:37
Whatever Socialist party you ex-convicts have...
GreaterPacificNations
09-08-2007, 18:04
Whatever Socialist party you ex-convicts have...
USA was a convict colony too. In fact, your independence was what spurred the british into colonising another crimdump.
Remote Observer
09-08-2007, 18:06
USA was a convict colony too. In fact, your independence was what spurred the british into colonising another crimdump.
Mostly debtors who came over as indentured servants.
New Brittonia
09-08-2007, 18:09
Which party hates New Zealand?
Remote Observer
09-08-2007, 18:11
Which party hates New Zealand?
What's wrong with New Zealand, aside from the fact that it smells like sheep?
New Brittonia
09-08-2007, 18:14
What's wrong with New Zealand, aside from the fact that it smells like sheep?
Vegimite
GreaterPacificNations
09-08-2007, 19:04
Mostly debtors who came over as indentured servants.
Yes...and convicts.
GreaterPacificNations
09-08-2007, 19:05
Which party hates New Zealand?
All of them. except the SNZA (Secret New Zealand Alliance)
USA was a convict colony too. In fact, your independence was what spurred the british into colonising another crimdump.
I'm glad someone brought that up. Convicts were dumped in the USA for a lot longer than they were dumped in Australia.
PS Both major parties suck, but at least Howard doesn't look as bad as Rudd. We're voting between a tool and a douche bag right now.
Boonytopia
10-08-2007, 09:51
I'm glad someone brought that up. Convicts were dumped in the USA for a lot longer than they were dumped in Australia.
PS Both major parties suck, but at least Howard doesn't look as bad as Rudd. We're voting between a tool and a douche bag right now.
We could combine the two & get a tool bag!
Andaras Prime
10-08-2007, 12:01
I don't like Labor or Liberal. I will be voting Green :)
We could combine the two & get a tool bag!
Actually, now that you mention it, a tool bag would be a lot more useful. Can we do that to every politician?
:)