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Now I'm not saying that New Jersey is a shitty place to live....

but...

Four people were shot in the back of the head in Newark, New Jersey, leaving three dead.

NEWARK, N.J. - In a city where gun violence has become an all too common part of daily life, these shootings were enough to chill even the most hardened residents: Four young friends shot execution-style in a schoolyard just days before they were to head to college.

Three were killed after being forced to kneel against a wall and then shot in the head at close range Saturday night, police said. A girl was found slumped near some bleachers 30 feet away, a gunshot wound to the head but still alive.

The four Newark residents were to attend Delaware State University this fall. No arrests had been made by Monday and authorities had not identified suspects.

Rest of the story here. (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20145099/)

I'm honestly quite surprised this story hasn't popped up sooner. Does a mass shooting have to top Virginia Tech now?

Apparently the victems were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time, but then again, it's Newark.

But execution style? The last time I've heard of that was 16 years ago in the Yogurt Shop Massacre. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yogurt_Shop_Murders)

This disgusts me as an American and a human being.

Newark, NJ is a particularly fucked up place to live.

They wonder why big chain department stores won't invest and move in, and why if you want to shop, you have to drive to the next town....


...this is why.

Execution style shootings?

Hell...a few years ago someone was crucified down the road from me for joyriding*. Shootings seem almost good in comparison.


*I realise it isn't the same thing, but for some reason the OP reminded me of that, so I felt it needed sharing

All too often, Giuliani and Bloomberg talk about how NY is no longer like Newark. And seeing as I'm in a suburb of NY...

Execution style shootings?

Hell...a few years ago someone was crucified down the road from me for joyriding*. Shootings seem almost good in comparison.


*I realise it isn't the same thing, but for some reason the OP reminded me of that, so I felt it needed sharingYou mean like an English Jesus?

You mean like an English Jesus?

Yeah, but with being neither English nor called Jesus.

Yeah, but with being neither English nor called Jesus.English, Irish, same dif.

English, Irish, same dif.

Unfortunately that has been a bone of contention for some 800 years.

Unfortunately that has been a bone of contention for some 800 years.News to me.

But Nadkor, they're both silly island people! :Þ

News to me.

O_O

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Troubles#Background

OK, so you missed the whole Northern Ireland/IRA thing too? That had only been going on for most of my lifetime.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Troubles

Newark, NJ is a particularly fucked up place to live.

They wonder why big chain department stores won't invest and move in, and why if you want to shop, you have to drive to the next town....


...this is why.

You know, it's times like this I wish I didn't have to commute into Newark every weekday.

O_O

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Troubles#Background

OK, so you missed the whole Northern Ireland/IRA thing too? That had only been going on for most of my lifetime.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Troubles
In my entire time on this forum, which is both hosted in and has a large base from the UK, I have never heard of the IRA or that there has ever been problems between England and Ireland.

In my entire time on this forum, which is both hosted in and has a large base from the UK, I have never heard of the IRA or that there has ever been problems between England and Ireland.

Must be a nice rock your living under. :p

Must be a nice rock your living under. :pIt is grey and has a hot tub and an cotton candy maker.

I lived in Newark for a time, and damn it wasn't pretty. All of my relatives still live there.

In my entire time on this forum, which is both hosted in and has a large base from the UK, I have never heard of the IRA or that there has ever been problems between England and Ireland.

That's depressing. It's only recent history.

And they say Americans are ignorant of history outside of their borders.

That's depressing. It's only recent history.

And they say Americans are ignorant of history outside of their borders.

I dunno - in a way it's kind of nice that there's a generation who wouldn't think there'd ever been a problem.

We've come a long way baby.

I dunno - in a way it's kind of nice that there's a generation who wouldn't think there'd ever been a problem.

We've come a long way baby.

:D I guess I'm too old.

In my entire time on this forum, which is both hosted in and has a large base from the UK, I have never heard of the IRA or that there has ever been problems between England and Ireland.

Am I the only one who read this as being extremely sarcastic?

Am I the only one who read this as being extremely sarcastic?It looks that way, but you'd be wrong.

It is grey and has a hot tub and an cotton candy maker.

Yay! :D

I dunno - in a way it's kind of nice that there's a generation who wouldn't think there'd ever been a problem.

We've come a long way baby.

"Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it
those who fail to learn history correctly -- why, they are simply doomed."


Thks, I've always wanted to use that quote... :p

Oh yes, good to see that having crappy gun laws is working well isn't it?

Now I'm not saying that New Jersey is a shitty place to live....

but...


I'm honestly quite surprised this story hasn't popped up sooner. Does a mass shooting have to top Virginia Tech now?

Apparently the victems were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time, but then again, it's Newark.

But execution style? The last time I've heard of that was 16 years ago in the Yogurt Shop Massacre. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yogurt_Shop_Murders)

This disgusts me as an American and a human being.

am i right in thinking that it is "execution style" that disgusts you and not people being shot?

Interesting idea

Because they're black.
Case solved.

Newark, NJ is a particularly fucked up place to live.

They wonder why big chain department stores won't invest and move in, and why if you want to shop, you have to drive to the next town....


...this is why.

It's not legal to carry a gun in NJ. Especially in Newark.

Then again, if you're willing to violate the law on murder, and risk the penalty of life in prison, who cares if you violate the law on possession and carry?

It's not legal to carry a gun in NJ. Especially in Newark.

Then again, if you're willing to violate the law on murder, and risk the penalty of life in prison, who cares if you violate the law on possession and carry?

Where, in my post, did I say anything about the legality or illegality of carrying a gun in Newark?

Methinks you quoted the wrong poster, because it doesn't seem to be an answer to my observation that "Newark is a shitty place to live" and "Newark can't attract department stores or large supermarkets because of the high crime rate".

I think I know which way this thread is going to go.



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Where, in my post, did I say anything about the legality or illegality of carrying a gun in Newark?

Methinks you quoted the wrong poster, because it doesn't seem to be an answer to my observation that "Newark is a shitty place to live" and "Newark can't attract department stores or large supermarkets because of the high crime rate".

Methinks it wouldn't be so shitty, if the people there weren't shitty.

I'm making the point that it's the shitty people, not the guns, that are the problem.

Methinks it wouldn't be so shitty, if the people there weren't shitty.

I'm making the point that it's the shitty people, not the guns, that are the problem.

No, wait, maybe it's the lack of department stores??? :eek:

No, wait, maybe it's the lack of department stores??? :eek:

No, some people are just shitty people.

Yeah, gotta kill those college-bounders. Line them up against the wall and shoot them all in the head. Who knows what damage they might do with an education. Might start getting uppity and thinking they're actually people or something.

How can they shoot four execution style and only kill three? Young kids today, never making sure the job is properly done.

Yeah, gotta kill those college-bounders. Line them up against the wall and shoot them all in the head. Who knows what damage they might do with an education. Might start getting uppity and thinking they're actually people or something.

Hey! Don't even make jokes like that, damnit! I'm AT college IN Newark right now.

Hey! Don't even make jokes like that, damnit! I'm AT college IN Newark right now.

Quit while you're ahead. :)

Incidentally, if the victims were in possession of firearms themselves, this tragedy never would have occured; they were butchered for want of an adequate means of self-defense. I think the saddest aspect of this sordid tale is that this catastrophe could have been averted had we remained faithful to the wise words of the Founding Fathers and allowed those poor, innocent children to protect themselves.

Now I'm not saying that New Jersey is a shitty place to live....

Can I say it?

Can I say it?

Please do, at once.

The only un-shitty place in New Jersey is Holmdel. Everything else, especially Newark, is a public sewer, with nasty ass people filling it to the brim.

Please do, at once.

The only un-shitty place in New Jersey is Holmdel. Everything else, especially Newark, is a public sewer, with nasty ass people filling it to the brim.

Holmdel's nice. I wouldn't say Central Jersey is all that bad. South Jersey and North Jersey are either Hick Central...or Newark/Trenton.

Holmdel's nice. I wouldn't say Central Jersey is all that bad. South Jersey and North Jersey are either Hick Central...or Newark/Trenton.

Ok, I'll let you have Long Beach Island as well. That's certainly ok, if you have the money.

Yes - there's hick central and Newark, and don't forget those places like Jersey City, where the local girls spend their time at the clay pits, drinking methanol.

Ok, I'll let you have Long Beach Island as well. That's certainly ok, if you have the money.

Yes - there's hick central and Newark, and don't forget those places like Jersey City, where the local girls spend their time at the clay pits, drinking methanol.

I'll give you that one. Though Hoboken is greatly improved from what it used to be.

On the other hand, the are around Edison in Central Jersey is great, especially if you're brown.

Quit while you're ahead. :)

Incidentally, if the victims were in possession of firearms themselves, this tragedy never would have occured; they were butchered for want of an adequate means of self-defense. I think the saddest aspect of this sordid tale is that this catastrophe could have been averted had we remained faithful to the wise words of the Founding Fathers and allowed those poor, innocent children to protect themselves.

Lol.

Ok, I'll let you have Long Beach Island as well. That's certainly ok, if you have the money.

Yes - there's hick central and Newark, and don't forget those places like Jersey City, where the local girls spend their time at the clay pits, drinking methanol.

Or Ocean County (Lakehurst, et al.) where all the retirees live, and everything closes at sundown.

In my entire time on this forum, which is both hosted in and has a large base from the UK, I have never heard of the IRA or that there has ever been problems between England and Ireland.

You just broke my IronyOmeter!

I hope.

The only un-shitty place in New Jersey is Holmdel. Everything else, especially Newark, is a public sewer, with nasty ass people filling it to the brim.

And you'd prefer shitty people with guns?

In my entire time on this forum, which is both hosted in and has a large base from the UK, I have never heard of the IRA or that there has ever been problems between England and Ireland.
Hopefully you are taking the piss.