NationStates Jolt Archive


if you were an ordinary citizen

Cameroi
04-08-2007, 14:29
if you were an ordinary citizen of your nation states country, not part of its ruling elete, would you be proud of it and how it was being run?

just out of curiosity, i'm wondering how many of us, are trying or wanting to run our countries in such a way that we would be.

i know this is sort of contrary to the spirit of stratigic simulation gaming, so i hope i'm not offending too many, or maybe i've even got it backwards in the sense that most of us are wanting or trying to run them that way. although i somehow doubt this last, just going by what i keep seeing in what passess for the roll play.

to me there is what seems like a tedius box, if one steps back a ways and looks at it, created by familiar roll play assumptions and priorities.

i'm not claiming to be able to keep up with anything beyond issues, on a day to day basis. i'm not. and i must appologise to everyone this may have inconvenienced. or might potentialy in future.

but have you ever wanted to consider the possibilities OUTSIDE of that box?

of actually doing things in such a way that you would REALLY want to live in the kind of world that would likely, realisticly, resault?

i'm kind of half way wondering how many can really see what i'm getting at.

like future tec, only without cars, guns or oil?

ok i've rambled, that's at least five topics instead of the one i intended, but they do all tie in togather.

=^^=
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Swilatia
04-08-2007, 14:42
I would never care how my NS "country" is run. I'm only here for the forum.
Romanar
04-08-2007, 15:02
My NS nation is a very nice place to live - if you've got the money. It's not quite so nice for the poorer people, and it's certainly not nice if you're an idealist who wants to change the system. Though it's listed as a "Father Knows Best" dictatorship, it's legally a representative democracy. But I've RPd it as very corrupt politically, and my issue answers reflect that, recently pushing it into the "Father Knows Best" category.
Ashmoria
04-08-2007, 15:29
if i lived in my country i would be pushing for "add contraceptives to the drinking water" legislation. its a serious flaw that a country's population can go past 1billion let alone 7.5 billion. *shudder*

i guess it would be more interesting if it were more customizable but for me nation simulation can only be modestly interesting no matter how good the engine.
Kyronea
04-08-2007, 15:35
if i lived in my country i would be pushing for "add contraceptives to the drinking water" legislation. its a serious flaw that a country's population can go past 1billion let alone 7.5 billion. *shudder*

i guess it would be more interesting if it were more customizable but for me nation simulation can only be modestly interesting no matter how good the engine.
That can't be done unless you have massive amounts of contraceptive, because it will otherwise become greatly diluted.

Also, I think I would like living in Kyronea. It'd be nice, at least.
Ashmoria
04-08-2007, 15:59
That can't be done unless you have massive amounts of contraceptive, because it will otherwise become greatly diluted.

Also, I think I would like living in Kyronea. It'd be nice, at least.

yes but you yourself have over 3 billion people.

no matter how "nice", overpopulation is a terrible problem that will only get worse.

what would you do to cut back some?
Whereyouthinkyougoing
04-08-2007, 16:23
I would totally live in my nation states country. The leader is an eminently sensible person.
IL Ruffino
04-08-2007, 16:29
I would totally live in my nation states country. The leader is an eminently sensible person.

And the taxes are just so great..
Romanar
04-08-2007, 16:32
yes but you yourself have over 3 billion people.

no matter how "nice", overpopulation is a terrible problem that will only get worse.

what would you do to cut back some?

True enough. I worried about oil supplies way back when I hit 500 million. It would take a WHOLE lot of resources to keep my current 3 billion living at a first world level. If I wasn't so squeezed for time IRL, I'd have to RP constant conquest of resource rich lands just to get by.
Intangelon
04-08-2007, 16:32
Well, as far as overpopulation, if we're indulging the "live in your NS nation" fantasy, why not indulge the suspension of disbelief involved in having giant nations? It's a Gaia-class world (MOO II players will get that reference), and it's ginormous. Problem solved.

I think my nation would be a nice place to live. The adorable wild Briards alone make it so. The tax rates are ridiculous, but I've managed to get it down into the 80% range from being constantly at 100% for over a year. That reflects my inherent distrust for capitalism, though, and 5 billion others seem to agree with me.
Barringtonia
04-08-2007, 16:40
Totally wouldn't - for example, I allow genetic experimentation and what do I get? 60 foot purple spiders eating my population.

Every time I bother with passing a sensible law, it's abused like a shared pot stash in a student household.

I can't trust my people whatsoever and certainly wouldn't want to live among them.
Rasselas
04-08-2007, 16:47
Yeah. I'd be pissed off that I had no political freedoms, but I'd be too busy running around the forests with the care bears to notice.
Daistallia 2104
04-08-2007, 16:48
If I were to be transplanted at this moment to Daistallia 2104, I think I'd be quite happy.
Sel Appa
04-08-2007, 17:02
Yes, of course. I designed it as my ideal...well except it's a democracy, which is not my ideal.
Bellicous
04-08-2007, 17:18
Yes. We're a dictatorship... but he's a nice dictator...
[NS]Fergi America
04-08-2007, 17:21
if you were an ordinary citizen of your nation states country, not part of its ruling elete, would you be proud of it and how it was being run?

If the country was Fergi America, I'd probably defect, LOL!
At least, I would, if I could possibly get past the ever-present secret service, the massive regular police force, and the military...

I wouldn't be unproud of it, per se. After all, all my Nations have "frightening"ly great economies, and no crime, and government support of the arts. But...the government is *everywhere,* and brutal against all dissention.

The thing is, the fun of my NS countries is that I get to run 'em WITHOUT caring what the citizens would think of it, and let my inner tyrant run rampant! After all, they can't revolt. The hapless imagi-citizens are but bugs to be squashed under my thumb.


of actually doing things in such a way that you would REALLY want to live in the kind of world that would likely, realisticly, resault?Nah, that'd be boring. No point in playing a game, if the end result is going to just be a sim-RL with only minor changes.
HotRodia
04-08-2007, 17:25
if you were an ordinary citizen of your nation states country, not part of its ruling elete, would you be proud of it and how it was being run?

It would be more accurate to say that I would be proud of how it was not being run.

And to respond to your other question, for a large portion of my time on this site, my nation was an Inoffensive Centrist Democracy, which would be a lot more like what I would actually think practical for normal humans with their tech level.
Vetalia
04-08-2007, 17:30
"Lowry? Has anybody seen Sam Lowry?"
Kyronea
04-08-2007, 17:35
yes but you yourself have over 3 billion people.

no matter how "nice", overpopulation is a terrible problem that will only get worse.

what would you do to cut back some?

Well that depends. Given that in NationStates countries we all seem to be in separate dimensions or something with our own hold over the entire world, I don't think it'll be a problem till we hit six billion.

After that...err...go future tech?
Kyronea
04-08-2007, 17:46
"Mr. Lowry? Has anybody seen Mr. Lowry?"

Yeah...I don't get it.
Soheran
04-08-2007, 17:50
Soheran has no "ruling elite."
Vetalia
04-08-2007, 17:52
Yeah...I don't get it.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088846/
Kyronea
04-08-2007, 17:57
Soheran has no "ruling elite."
The people in charge, then.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088846/
Oh.
Wanderjar
04-08-2007, 21:05
if you were an ordinary citizen of your nation states country, not part of its ruling elete, would you be proud of it and how it was being run?

just out of curiosity, i'm wondering how many of us, are trying or wanting to run our countries in such a way that we would be.

i know this is sort of contrary to the spirit of stratigic simulation gaming, so i hope i'm not offending too many, or maybe i've even got it backwards in the sense that most of us are wanting or trying to run them that way. although i somehow doubt this last, just going by what i keep seeing in what passess for the roll play.

to me there is what seems like a tedius box, if one steps back a ways and looks at it, created by familiar roll play assumptions and priorities.

i'm not claiming to be able to keep up with anything beyond issues, on a day to day basis. i'm not. and i must appologise to everyone this may have inconvenienced. or might potentialy in future.

but have you ever wanted to consider the possibilities OUTSIDE of that box?

of actually doing things in such a way that you would REALLY want to live in the kind of world that would likely, realisticly, resault?

i'm kind of half way wondering how many can really see what i'm getting at.

like future tec, only without cars, guns or oil?

ok i've rambled, that's at least five topics instead of the one i intended, but they do all tie in togather.

=^^=
.../\...


Of course I would be! All Prussians/Wanderjarians (We're referred to as Prussians or Wanderjarians) are fanatically loyal to the Emperor and love him and his word! Or else!
Lunatic Goofballs
04-08-2007, 21:09
It would be like living in my head.

Picture that. :)
Romanar
04-08-2007, 23:30
It would be like living in my head.

Picture that. :)

:eek::eek::eek:
Terrorem
04-08-2007, 23:37
Economy is raising witht he sacrifice of a lot of political freedom. It's a safe place to live. A large military to protect the nation. And prostitution is legal. ;)
GreaterPacificNations
05-08-2007, 03:11
Yeah, I'd be fine with it, primarily because there is no ruling elite. I haven't checked the exact status, but my country swings between Capitalizt and Anarchy.