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Yes - that is the name of a study which has been out a while but suddenly receives media attention (it can be found here (http://homepage.psy.utexas.edu/Homepage/Group/BussLAB/pdffiles/why%20humans%20have%20sex%202007.pdf), as pdf). It seems we have 237 different reasons - varying from "it's fun" via "I was drunk" to "I wanted to give them a STD" and "I wanted to feel closer to God".
Yes, manipulative reasons like "I wanted a promotion" are also on there. And men and women are not that different ;)

TOP TEN REASONS - MEN
1. I was attracted to the person
2. It feels good
3. I wanted to experience the physical pleasure
4. It’s fun
5. I wanted to show my affection to the person
6. I was sexually aroused and wanted the release
7. I was ‘‘horny’’
8. I wanted to express my love for the person
9. I wanted to achieve an orgasm
10. I wanted to please my partner

TOP 10 REASONS - WOMEN
1. I was attracted to the person
2. I wanted to experience the physical pleasure
3. It feels good
4. I wanted to show my affection to the person
5. I wanted to express my love for the person
6. I was sexually aroused and wanted the release
7. I was ‘‘horny’’
8. It’s fun
9. I realized I was in love
10. I was ‘‘in the heat of the moment’’

So.. what reason did you have ;) ?

I was bored?

I was bored?

Number 30 on the "Top 50 largest gender differences in why men and women have sex" list :P

To enjoy the partner that God created for me, in a physical, emotional, and spiritual way. :)

Bored?

To enjoy the partner that God created for me, in a physical, emotional, and spiritual way. :)

what you mean to say was......you were bored. :p

All of the top reasons, although not particularly in that order.

Oh, and it's good exercise!

All the people who insist "sex is for procreation" need to take a good look at those top tens. Neither men nor women put "I wanted to get pregnant/make a baby" in their top TEN reasons for having sex. Procreation doesn't even make the top ten, so stop BSing about how that's what sex is "for."

yay! it's Jenrak!!!!!!!!!!

oh, and yes, sex fights boredom.

"Honey, I'm bored."

*comes running from across the house*

:D

what you mean to say was......you were bored. :p

:p well, im bored alot lately, but hey, I still have my v-card. Waiting for that unlucky..erm lucky gal, for a wonderful night of awesome, awkward sex! :D

All the people who insist "sex is for procreation" need to take a good look at those top tens. Neither men nor women put "I wanted to get pregnant/make a baby" in their top TEN reasons for having sex. Procreation doesn't even make the top ten, so stop BSing about how that's what sex is "for."

*wonders where that does fall on the list...*

Bored?

yay! it's Jenrak!!!!!!!!!!

oh, and yes, sex fights boredom.

All the people who insist "sex is for procreation" need to take a good look at those top tens. Neither men nor women put "I wanted to get pregnant/make a baby" in their top TEN reasons for having sex. Procreation doesn't even make the top ten, so stop BSing about how that's what sex is "for."

Make that the top 50.
And before people start whining about "liberal" research - this is from Texas;)

I was drunk and it seemed like a good idea at the time

yay! it's Jenrak!!!!!!!!!!

oh, and yes, sex fights boredom.

Alright, very nice to know. But wouldn't other things fight boredom better? Like...running?

And I don't think me posting is that big of a deal.

Was "giggidy giggidy" a reason?

Make that the top 50.
And before people start whining about "liberal" research - this is from Texas;)

Looks like it is the 45th least popular reason for men. I don't see it on the most or least popular list for men.


Edit: Was looking at the wrong number.

Edit again: And the wrong list. I suck today.

Was "giggidy giggidy" a reason?

"Happy birthday there. How old are you?"
"16"
"18, all right"
"MOM!"
"I like where this is going!"

:D

*wonders where that does fall on the list...*
If I'm reading the lists correctly, procreation isn't in the top 50 for men or women, either.

I found "I wanted to have a child" as number 45 on the list of the BOTTOM 50 reasons for men. I did not see this item appear on the women's bottom 50 list.

Lack of anything good on television nowadays.

If I'm reading the lists correctly, procreation isn't in the top 50 for men or women, either.

I found "I wanted to have a child" as number 45 on the list of the BOTTOM 50 reasons for men. I did not see this item appear on the women's bottom 50 list.

Damn, I was just looking at things totally backwards.

I would guess, then, that it fell somewhere in between the top 50 and the bottom 50 for women. Makes sense.

Yes - that is the name of a study which has been out a while but suddenly receives media attention (it can be found here (http://homepage.psy.utexas.edu/Homepage/Group/BussLAB/pdffiles/why%20humans%20have%20sex%202007.pdf), as pdf). It seems we have 237 different reasons - varying from "it's fun" via "I was drunk" to "I wanted to give them a STD" and "I wanted to feel closer to God".
Yes, manipulative reasons like "I wanted a promotion" are also on there. And men and women are not that different ;)

TOP TEN REASONS - MEN
1. I was attracted to the person
2. It feels good
3. I wanted to experience the physical pleasure
4. It’s fun
5. I wanted to show my affection to the person
6. I was sexually aroused and wanted the release
7. I was ‘‘horny’’
8. I wanted to express my love for the person
9. I wanted to achieve an orgasm
10. I wanted to please my partner

TOP 10 REASONS - WOMEN
1. I was attracted to the person
2. I wanted to experience the physical pleasure
3. It feels good
4. I wanted to show my affection to the person
5. I wanted to express my love for the person
6. I was sexually aroused and wanted the release
7. I was ‘‘horny’’
8. It’s fun
9. I realized I was in love
10. I was ‘‘in the heat of the moment’’

So.. what reason did you have ;) ?

Is it just me, or do a lot of those seem to be repeating? Like, I'd say, on the men's list, that 2 and 3 are the same, and 6,7 and 9 are the same.

Oh, and you guys crowing about how "Making a baby isn't on the list!!!!!" Well of course it isn't. Why would it be? If the average person gets laid 20,000 times in his/her life, how many of those do you think were done with them thinking "Oh this doesn't feel good I just want to have a kid?"

Hint: Average nuclear family in the USA has 2.5 kids. With the odds of pregnancy during the fertile period of a woman's menstrual cycle being about 25%, that implies 10 deliberate attempts, on average, to produce 2.5 children.

Tell me again why anyone would expect something that's done .5% of the time (Let's say ultra conservatives do it as much as 10%) to make the top 10?

What place does "I was curious" take?

Keep in mind there's alot of duplicates. 'It feels good' and 'I wanted the physical pleasure', 'I was horny' are examples.

If you cut out every duplicate you'd have twenty items tops. Horneyness, boredom, drunkenness, I was paid, love, attracted to partner, sad breakup sex, fight and make up sex, give someone an STD on purpouse cause you're a jerk, just got Viagra and wanted to try it out, and procreation is all I can think of. That's twelve, and while I'm sure there's more, there can't be as many as that study says

Is it just me, or do a lot of those seem to be repeating? Like, I'd say, on the men's list, that 2 and 3 are the same, and 6,7 and 9 are the same.

They are practically the same, but I could see people rating them differently based on what connotation they got from the wording.

Oh, and you guys crowing about how "Making a baby isn't on the list!!!!!" Well of course it isn't. Why would it be? If the average person gets laid 20,000 times in his/her life, how many of those do you think were done with them thinking "Oh this doesn't feel good I just want to have a kid?"

I don't think anyone here is surprised that it isn't top on the list. We recognize that people have sex for all sorts of reasons and that it serves all sorts of purposes in their lives. But there are those who will tell you that the sole purpose of sex is procreation.

Is it just me, or do a lot of those seem to be repeating? Like, I'd say, on the men's list, that 2 and 3 are the same, and 6,7 and 9 are the same.

Oh, and you guys crowing about how "Making a baby isn't on the list!!!!!" Well of course it isn't. Why would it be? If the average person gets laid 20,000 times in his/her life, how many of those do you think were done with them thinking "Oh this doesn't feel good I just want to have a kid?"

Darling...that's my point.

There are people on these boards who insist, against all evidence, that "sex is for procreation!" My point is simply that no, it's not. At least, not according to the people who are having sex.


Hint: Average nuclear family in the USA has 2.5 kids. With the odds of pregnancy during the fertile period of a woman's menstrual cycle being about 25%, that implies 10 deliberate attempts, on average, to produce 2.5 children.

Tell me again why anyone would expect something that's done .5% of the time (Let's say ultra conservatives do it as much as 10%) to make the top 10?
Exactly.

You're preaching to the converted. Instead, please remember to share this information the next time we have a gay marriage thread in which somebody insists that gay sex is wrong because it doesn't result in bay-bees, and sex is for making bay-bees.

Edit: Was looking at the wrong number.

Edit again: And the wrong list. I suck today.
I made the exact same mistake the first time I read it. The layout isn't very clear.

First time, or most recent?

Is "the priest made me" anywhere on the list?

What place does "I was curious" take?

"I was curious about sex" is #37 in the women's top 50."I was curious about my sexual abilities" is #35 on the men's top 50, and #46 on the women's. Men's #47 was "I wanted to experiment with new experiences," too.

If the OP feels like adding a poll, I'd be interested to see results on what people think the BEST reason to have sex would be. In other words, what would be the IDEAL motivation for people to have sex?

Options might include:

-Desire to experience physical pleasure
-Desire to give physical pleasure
-Desire to express love/affection to my partner
-Desire to make a baby
-Desire to attain/retain social status
-Desire to obtain wealth or material goods
-Curiosity

If the OP feels like adding a poll, I'd be interested to see results on what people think the BEST reason to have sex would be. In other words, what would be the IDEAL motivation for people to have sex?

Options might include:

-Desire to experience physical pleasure
-Desire to give physical pleasure
-Desire to express love/affection to my partner
-Desire to make a baby
-Desire to attain/retain social status
-Desire to obtain wealth or material goods
-Curiosity


But what if the ideal reason isn't a single reason at all? *head explody*

Darling...that's my point.

There are people on these boards who insist, against all evidence, that "sex is for procreation!" My point is simply that no, it's not. At least, not according to the people who are having sex.


Exactly.

You're preaching to the converted. Instead, please remember to share this information the next time we have a gay marriage thread in which somebody insists that gay sex is wrong because it doesn't result in bay-bees, and sex is for making bay-bees.

Yar, I know we agree in principle on ths one. I just think that people have a tendency to exaggerate the frequency of people saying sex is for procreation and nothing else.

Ironically, yuo know where I learned it wasn't? Catholic school.

I was in 6th grade and we were having a sex ed type class. It was what you'd basically expect a private school sex ed class to be like, heavy on morality and light on birth control. But there was a point at which the discussion on why couples make love took a turn where the teacher paused and said: "You guys don't think it's just for making babies, do you???" To which many of us said, that yes, we did think that. She replied by assuring us that no, it wasn't for just making babies. It was for couples to express love for each other etc etc etc.

Not an old-school Catholic, she.

I really think there are few people who do still believe that, and they're on the fringe. My reason for posting what I did was because some of you guys make it sound like it's an epidemic.

All the people who insist "sex is for procreation" need to take a good look at those top tens. Neither men nor women put "I wanted to get pregnant/make a baby" in their top TEN reasons for having sex. Procreation doesn't even make the top ten, so stop BSing about how that's what sex is "for."

Mostly preaching to the choir on that one, methinks.

But what if the ideal reason isn't a single reason at all? *head explody*
Then you are entirely too complicated.

Bottle does not condone any belief structure which cannot be reduced to poll format.

Then you are entirely too complicated.

Bottle does not condone any belief structure which cannot be reduced to poll format.

*thinks there needs to be a "This thread is useless without polls" Smiley*

Bottle does not condone any belief structure which cannot be reduced to poll format.
All hail Moar Poll!

Yar, I know we agree in principle on ths one. I just think that people have a tendency to exaggerate the frequency of people saying sex is for procreation and nothing else.

Ironically, yuo know where I learned it wasn't? Catholic school.

I was in 6th grade and we were having a sex ed type class. It was what you'd basically expect a private school sex ed class to be like, heavy on morality and light on birth control. But there was a point at which the discussion on why couples make love took a turn where the teacher paused and said: "You guys don't think it's just for making babies, do you???" To which many of us said, that yes, we did think that. She replied by assuring us that no, it wasn't for just making babies. It was for couples to express love for each other etc etc etc.

Not an old-school Catholic, she.

I really think there are few people who do still believe that, and they're on the fringe. My reason for posting what I did was because some of you guys make it sound like it's an epidemic.

The central problem being that, like any pissy minority, they're quite vocal about it. It sorta inflates their numbers, but it also means that more people hear it.

...unfortunately, some of those people are policy makers who devise "Abstinence only education."

...though I might be way off. It may be noonish, but I did just wake up an hour ago.

pro creation has nothing to do with sex



sex is all about emotions and impulses and urges and feelings and wanting and such


kids resulting from such are not the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, but are instead the "uh oh" part


course, that's just for me

i'm sure other people may think differently

I really think there are few people who do still believe that, and they're on the fringe. My reason for posting what I did was because some of you guys make it sound like it's an epidemic.
It kind of IS an epidemic, at least among young people in the USA (as you point out). Due to our bizarre national prudery about sex, as well as a striking lack of adequate sex ed in many areas of the country, we've got a disturbing number of young people who never get the message that you got...until it's a bit too late.

This thinking also contributes to some deeply warped views of what "family" means, since a whole lot of people think that "family" must mean a man and a woman had heterosexual PIV sex and produced biological offspring. That is what sex is "for," and that's what family must be, according to some of the loud popular narratives.

The funny thing is, people's actually behavior doesn't match up with this at all. Just like how the popular narrative is that a "normal" family is Dad + Mom + 2.5 biological kids...yet the majority of American families don't actually look like that.

At this point, I should hope so. I've been shrilling about that particular topic around here for like three damn years. If I don't have you people whipped into submission by now, that'd just be sad.

You know, it saddens me that I haven't found anything we're ideologically opposed on yet.

That was entirely too arrogant a thing to say. I'll find a point of contention, and then, en garde! :)

Mostly preaching to the choir on that one, methinks.
At this point, I should hope so. I've been shrilling about that particular topic around here for like three damn years. If I don't have you people whipped into submission by now, that'd just be sad.

Then you are entirely too complicated.

Bottle does not condone any belief structure which cannot be reduced to poll format.

:p Definitely :D

The actual list doesn't really surprise me, the ones at the top are obvious, though some of the ones lower down are surprisingly evil and/or focused solely on gaining something in return.

It kind of IS an epidemic, at least among young people in the USA (as you point out). Due to our bizarre national prudery about sex, as well as a striking lack of adequate sex ed in many areas of the country, we've got a disturbing number of young people who never get the message that you got...until it's a bit too late.

This thinking also contributes to some deeply warped views of what "family" means, since a whole lot of people think that "family" must mean a man and a woman had heterosexual PIV sex and produced biological offspring. That is what sex is "for," and that's what family must be, according to some of the loud popular narratives.

The funny thing is, people's actually behavior doesn't match up with this at all. Just like how the popular narrative is that a "normal" family is Dad + Mom + 2.5 biological kids...yet the majority of American families don't actually look like that.


What's "PIV" mean?

But I think the problem of people being that prudish is dissolving as we go. I think it stems more from outdated thought as opposed to conservative thought, per se. I mean, if a Catholic flavored sex ed class can assure the students that sex isn't exclusively for procreating, that's a good sign of the times.

I have encountered the "old school" Catholic mentality though. Once I was debating with somebody in a chat and she was a middle aged Texas Catholic who was appalled that people out there engaged in....

(whispering) oral sex...

I asked her if her church had told her it was wrong and she insisted that yes, it had. (Must've been a very old school uber conservative parish, methinks.) Anyway, she decided that my religion was hideously corrupt because it DOESN'T involve itself with what goes on in the bedroom.

well that's Texas for you.......

What's "PIV" mean?

But I think the problem of people being that prudish is dissolving as we go. I think it stems more from outdated thought as opposed to conservative thought, per se. I mean, if a Catholic flavored sex ed class can assure the students that sex isn't exclusively for procreating, that's a good sign of the times.

I have encountered the "old school" Catholic mentality though. Once I was debating with somebody in a chat and she was a middle aged Texas Catholic who was appalled that people out there engaged in....

(whispering) oral sex...

I asked her if her church had told her it was wrong and she insisted that yes, it had. (Must've been a very old school uber conservative parish, methinks.) Anyway, she decided that my religion was hideously corrupt because it DOESN'T involve itself with what goes on in the bedroom.

PIV = Penis in Vagina

What's "PIV" mean?

Whoops, sorry. Slang from a different forum. PIV = penis in vagina.


But I think the problem of people being that prudish is dissolving as we go. I think it stems more from outdated thought as opposed to conservative thought, per se. I mean, if a Catholic flavored sex ed class can assure the students that sex isn't exclusively for procreating, that's a good sign of the times.

Absolutely! I just like to contribute to that dissolution as much as I can. :D


I have encountered the "old school" Catholic mentality though. Once I was debating with somebody in a chat and she was a middle aged Texas Catholic who was appalled that people out there engaged in....

(whispering) oral sex...

I asked her if her church had told her it was wrong and she insisted that yes, it had. (Must've been a very old school uber conservative parish, methinks.) Anyway, she decided that my religion was hideously corrupt because it DOESN'T involve itself with what goes on in the bedroom.
Yeah, sometimes I encounter things that make me wonder if I should laugh or cry. Like an individual I met in college who considered it wildly kinky to have sex with the woman on top.

Yeah, sometimes I encounter things that make me wonder if I should laugh or cry. Like an individual I met in college who considered it wildly kinky to have sex with the woman on top.

Only if said woman is on top of me and my woman

My reasons? Well, the first time with a girl because of denial and curiosity. It was crap and just got worse so I didn't do it more than a few times.

The first time with a guy I did it because he was hot and we were both horny, and he asked me right out. Well, "asked" is not quite correct, more like "told" but I didn't really care about the distinction because I was down to business before he even finished the sentence.

The last time I had sex was a lapse of judgment, a stupid anonymous encounter I don't really know why I chose to engage in. Hopefully the next time I have sex will be make-up sex with my boyfriend, if he still is my boyfriend, now that having told him what I did he is, understandably, weary of our future. :\

So, umm, is there an "I was a moron" reason in the list?

Only if said woman is on top of me and my woman

I approve of this post.

My reasons? Well, the first time with a girl because of denial and curiosity. It was crap and just got worse so I didn't do it more than a few times.

The first time with a guy I did it because he was hot and we were both horny, and he asked me right out. Well, "asked" is not quite correct, more like "told" but I didn't really care about the distinction because I was down to business before he even finished the sentence.

The last time I had sex was a lapse of judgment, a stupid anonymous encounter I don't really know why I chose to engage in. Hopefully the next time I have sex will be make-up sex with my boyfriend, if he still is my boyfriend, now that having told him what I did he is, understandably, weary of our future. :\

So, umm, is there an "I was a moron" reason in the list?

That's probably a blend of "For pleasure" and "I was horny." *nod*

That's probably a blend of "For pleasure" and "I was horny." *nod*

But, I wasn't horny and I didn't do it for pleasure (fitting then that the sex was undeniably and disturbingly bad)... it just happened, he was hitting on me and I let it happen.

But, I wasn't horny and I didn't do it for pleasure (fitting then that the sex was undeniably and disturbingly bad)... it just happened, he was hitting on me and I let it happen.

Hmm...I wonder if "I was a moron" is actually on the list. *scurries off to check*

Edit: "It just happened" is listed as #30 for men.

Pleasure and show of affection would generally be mine. Though I suppose the first time was to please my partner.

Is there a "I love my boyfriend and even though people say two guys can't make a baby, we intend to keep trying anyway until either it works or we're too exhausted to even move, having lots and lots of fun in the process as a completely unwanted side-effect" option?

No? Aww.

Is there a "I love my boyfriend and even though people say two guys can't make a baby, we intend to keep trying anyway until either it works or we're too exhausted to even move, having lots and lots of fun in the process as a completely unwanted side-effect" option?

No? Aww.

LMAO

ditto mate

Why do I have sex, eh?

Mainly because it's fun. There we go.

Incidentally, were any of the options to do with outbreeding terrorists?

All the people who insist "sex is for procreation" need to take a good look at those top tens. Neither men nor women put "I wanted to get pregnant/make a baby" in their top TEN reasons for having sex. Procreation doesn't even make the top ten, so stop BSing about how that's what sex is "for."

It IS what sex is for. Just because people have other reasons doesn't change that. The other reasons exist because of our sex drives, which were put there so we would procreate. That doesn't mean I discount them, I'm just discounting your statement because of bad logic and a basic lack of understanding of why sex evolved to be enjoyable in the first place.

I have encountered the "old school" Catholic mentality though. Once I was debating with somebody in a chat and she was a middle aged Texas Catholic who was appalled that people out there engaged in....

(whispering) oral sex...

I asked her if her church had told her it was wrong and she insisted that yes, it had. (Must've been a very old school uber conservative parish, methinks.)

That doesn't surprise me. I've always been told that the official Catholic doctrine is that a married couple should have sex to show love and help cement their relationship, but that they should only do it in ways that might result in pregnancy. No contraceptives, no anal, no oral, etc.

Yeah, sometimes I encounter things that make me wonder if I should laugh or cry. Like an individual I met in college who considered it wildly kinky to have sex with the woman on top.

Well then. Apparently my preference is wildly kinky. I feel so adventurous already...

That doesn't surprise me. I've always been told that the official Catholic doctrine is that a married couple should have sex to show love and help cement their relationship, but that they should only do it in ways that might result in pregnancy. No contraceptives, no anal, no oral, etc.

Yeah, the rule is that you should be open to the possibility of life, not that you have to make babies for Jesus or you're going to hell.

Whoops, sorry. Slang from a different forum. PIV = penis in vagina.


Absolutely! I just like to contribute to that dissolution as much as I can. :D


Yeah, sometimes I encounter things that make me wonder if I should laugh or cry. Like an individual I met in college who considered it wildly kinky to have sex with the woman on top.

Thanks.

heheh then we must be real perverts that my wife got a cowboy hat and a T-shirt that says "everybody loves a cowgirl" for exactly that occasion...

PIV = Penis in Vagina

Thankya.

That doesn't surprise me. I've always been told that the official Catholic doctrine is that a married couple should have sex to show love and help cement their relationship, but that they should only do it in ways that might result in pregnancy. No contraceptives, no anal, no oral, etc.

Yah, and I always had a hard time with that during my own Catholic days. The rhythm method is NOT universally reliable. Some women could set their watch by their cycle and some... not so much.

And yet there seems to be no allowance for circumstances in which a couple may be unable to reliably plan their canoodling (I love that word) in a non-fertile way but can't afford to support another child.

I don't recall if that sex ed class mentioned other types of sex (like oral or anal.) I don't think it did, or I'd remember either: "OMFG you can't get a BJ?!?!?" or "Whoa, you're totally allowed to get a BJ!!!"

I much prefer the mentality of "being allowed" has nothing to do with it. It's not up to anybody but the participants.

in response to that debate, I asked my Bishop if there was any official Mormon teaching on the subject. (He was the kind of guy you could talk about ANYTHING with and he'd never make you feel stupid for asking.) He said the church didn't make such things its business... that as long as whatever went on was not coerced then all's well.

Yeah, the rule is that you should be open to the possibility of life, not that you have to make babies for Jesus or you're going to hell.

IIRC, the idea of not using contraceptives was meant to prevent people from taking actions that would override the will of God.

...as if a thin layer of latex can stand against the will of a Being who has been known to cause pregnancy without the mother even having to lose her virginity.

so far for me it's always been, i was drunk and i just went along with it.

I see no reason why organized religion should play ANY role in the bedroom


the only religion i practice in the bedroom is worshipping my lover :)

the only religion i practice in the bedroom is worshipping my lover :)

That's kinda creepy.

That's kinda creepy.

Could be kinda kinky too depending on the kind of worship

IIRC, the idea of not using contraceptives was meant to prevent people from taking actions that would override the will of God.

...as if a thin layer of latex can stand against the will of a Being who has been known to cause pregnancy without the mother even having to lose her virginity.

I thought the prohibition against contraceptives was due to the selfish nature of using something to prevent yourself from having responsibility for a child without consulting God about what he/she would want from you.

That's kinda creepy.



oh i assure you, it's kinky


and HOT

I thought the prohibition against contraceptives was due to the selfish nature of using something to prevent yourself from having responsibility for a child without consulting God about what he/she would want from you.

I don't think I've ever heard that, although I won't go so far as to say it couldn't be a part of it. Mostly the emphasis was on the issue of not trying to override His (potential) will.

At this point, I should hope so. I've been shrilling about that particular topic around here for like three damn years. If I don't have you people whipped into submission by now, that'd just be sad.
giggidy?
My reasons? Well, the first time with a girl because of denial and curiosity. It was crap and just got worse so I didn't do it more than a few times.

The first time with a guy I did it because he was hot and we were both horny, and he asked me right out. Well, "asked" is not quite correct, more like "told" but I didn't really care about the distinction because I was down to business before he even finished the sentence.

The last time I had sex was a lapse of judgment, a stupid anonymous encounter I don't really know why I chose to engage in. Hopefully the next time I have sex will be make-up sex with my boyfriend, if he still is my boyfriend, now that having told him what I did he is, understandably, weary of our future. :\

So, umm, is there an "I was a moron" reason in the list?
:fluffle:

best of luck.

That's kinda creepy.
Only if there are shrines, chanting, and dancing around with masks involved.

I don't think I've ever heard that, although I won't go so far as to say it couldn't be a part of it. Mostly the emphasis was on the issue of not trying to override His (potential) will.

Interesting. I don't quite get that. How would a human organization expect to enforce God's will when they believe that God chooses to allow free will?

Interesting. I don't quite get that. How would a human organization expect to enforce God's will when they believe that God chooses to allow free will?
That's why they don't think too hard about it.

That's why they don't think too hard about it.

welcome to religion 101 :p

Yes - that is the name of a study which has been out a while but suddenly receives media attention (it can be found here (http://homepage.psy.utexas.edu/Homepage/Group/BussLAB/pdffiles/why%20humans%20have%20sex%202007.pdf), as pdf). It seems we have 237 different reasons - varying from "it's fun" via "I was drunk" to "I wanted to give them a STD" and "I wanted to feel closer to God".
Yes, manipulative reasons like "I wanted a promotion" are also on there. And men and women are not that different ;)

TOP TEN REASONS - MEN
1. I was attracted to the person
2. It feels good
3. I wanted to experience the physical pleasure
4. It’s fun
5. I wanted to show my affection to the person
6. I was sexually aroused and wanted the release
7. I was ‘‘horny’’
8. I wanted to express my love for the person
9. I wanted to achieve an orgasm
10. I wanted to please my partner

TOP 10 REASONS - WOMEN
1. I was attracted to the person
2. I wanted to experience the physical pleasure
3. It feels good
4. I wanted to show my affection to the person
5. I wanted to express my love for the person
6. I was sexually aroused and wanted the release
7. I was ‘‘horny’’
8. It’s fun
9. I realized I was in love
10. I was ‘‘in the heat of the moment’’

So.. what reason did you have ;) ?

If I ever do, my reason will be all of the top 10 for men.

If I ever do, my reason will be all of the top 10 for men.

great answer!


that's mine too! lol

TOP TEN REASONS - MEN
1. I was attracted to the person
2. It feels good
3. I wanted to experience the physical pleasure
4. It’s fun
5. I wanted to show my affection to the person
6. I was sexually aroused and wanted the release
7. I was ‘‘horny’’
8. I wanted to express my love for the person
9. I wanted to achieve an orgasm
10. I wanted to please my partner

TOP 10 REASONS - WOMEN
1. I was attracted to the person
2. I wanted to experience the physical pleasure
3. It feels good
4. I wanted to show my affection to the person
5. I wanted to express my love for the person
6. I was sexually aroused and wanted the release
7. I was ‘‘horny’’
8. It’s fun
9. I realized I was in love
10. I was ‘‘in the heat of the moment’’


Not to be pedantic, but how do 2 and 3 -- on both lists differ? Isn't feeling good and experiencing physical pleasure kind of the same thing?

And realizing you're in love, and wanting to express love -- is there a nuance there that I'm not getting?

Interesting. I don't quite get that. How would a human organization expect to enforce God's will when they believe that God chooses to allow free will?

I believe you've just defined the very paradox that defined the Dark Ages and institutions like the Inquisition.

Although I would like to add that one shouldn't judge the Medieval Church too harshly for that. It was the Church organization that maintained some sense of infrastructure and cultural identity after the collapse of Imperial Rome, and became, in a real sense, a Governing body. It takes awhile to shake all that off.

:fluffle:

best of luck.

Aww. Well, I am gonna need it. Can't believe what an idiot I was. :(

Bottle does not condone any belief structure which cannot be reduced to poll format.If there is going to be a Poll, I submit the following option..

Why humans have sex?
Because You And Me Baby Ain't Nothing But Mammals

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcJNPyVOrTA&mode=related&search=

So.. what reason did you have ;) ?

I don't enjoy having sex, but I sure enjoyed the promotion (and pay rise!) that I got from having sex with my boss one time!! :)

...and even though people say two guys can't make a baby...


Anything can happen in the Universe, it's all quantum y'know.

Although it would be surprising.

Aww. Well, I am gonna need it. Can't believe what an idiot I was. :(
Ah well, such is life.

Caught my gf with another guy when I was out just this last night. Proper tongue in mouth stuff. So I kind of got him in the face with a lit cigarette end.

Probably not the most sensible course of action, but hey, he deserved it.

great answer!


that's mine too! lol

Well, I gotta remember them. :p

Ah well, such is life.

Caught my gf with another guy when I was out just this last night. Proper tongue in mouth stuff. So I kind of got him in the face with a lit cigarette end.

Probably not the most sensible course of action, but hey, he deserved it.

Why did he deserve it? Did he know she was taken?

Personally I wouldn't have cared about him unless there was an emotional element e.g. he was a friend. I would have been much more angry with the girl

Yes - that is the name of a study which has been out a while but suddenly receives media attention (it can be found here (http://homepage.psy.utexas.edu/Homepage/Group/BussLAB/pdffiles/why%20humans%20have%20sex%202007.pdf), as pdf). It seems we have 237 different reasons - varying from "it's fun" via "I was drunk" to "I wanted to give them a STD" and "I wanted to feel closer to God".
Yes, manipulative reasons like "I wanted a promotion" are also on there. And men and women are not that different ;)

TOP TEN REASONS - MEN
1. I was attracted to the person
2. It feels good
3. I wanted to experience the physical pleasure
4. It’s fun
5. I wanted to show my affection to the person
6. I was sexually aroused and wanted the release
7. I was ‘‘horny’’
8. I wanted to express my love for the person
9. I wanted to achieve an orgasm
10. I wanted to please my partner

TOP 10 REASONS - WOMEN
1. I was attracted to the person
2. I wanted to experience the physical pleasure
3. It feels good
4. I wanted to show my affection to the person
5. I wanted to express my love for the person
6. I was sexually aroused and wanted the release
7. I was ‘‘horny’’
8. It’s fun
9. I realized I was in love
10. I was ‘‘in the heat of the moment’’

So.. what reason did you have ;) ?

What - no poll?

BTW - this thread has a lot of potential for horrible, horrible responses, and perhaps some kinky smilies.

Why humans have sex. Well, Allah gave us men a nice wee wee, and gave other men a nice wee wee, and gave women a nice hoo haa or whatever euphemism you'd like to use, and He intends us to rub all those parts together vigorously. Doing so is against God's will.

The funny thing is, people's actually behavior doesn't match up with this at all. Just like how the popular narrative is that a "normal" family is Dad + Mom + 2.5 biological kids...yet the majority of American families don't actually look like that.

Are we confusing the words 'normal' and 'average' again?

Why did he deserve it? Did he know she was taken?

Personally I wouldn't have cared about him unless there was an emotional element e.g. he was a friend. I would have been much more angry with the girl
Not entirely interested in whether she told him or not, to be honest, I want nothing to do with either of them any more. Quite pissed off, basically.

I can't see this in the file, it's a little confusing to read but...

It was illicit.

There's something about illicit sex, whether that's secretly sleeping with someone in the office, knowingly sleeping with someone else's partner or somewhere in public with the possibility of being caught that is a real turn-on.

There was a good article a while ago in a media I forget, about the dangers of C'mas office party affairs in that if you're engaged in illicit sex, the probability of pregnancy goes up for a variety of reasons one of which was the 'naughtiness' of it, another, by comparison, is that you were less likely to use protection.

The reason was something to do with the illicit nature, it does something to us and there's an advantage in terms of evolution, which I suppose stems from the more horny you are, the more likely you are to get pregnant - and for some reason we're partly wired to get horny if it's illicit - and that's on the female side not the male.

Heading out into deep speculation territory, I'd hazard a guess to say it's the same feeling as eating chocolate when you're not supposed to - guilty pleasures.

There's a study on a common British garden bird to do with this though it may not be related to humans.

I should try find some sort of cite

Disco! (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/06/070620110651.htm) for the birds.

Related material (http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn10847-dont-pair-up-with-matching-genes.html) on cheating by women

Not entirely interested in whether she told him or not, to be honest, I want nothing to do with either of them any more. Quite pissed off, basically.

Ah so you randomly assaulted a potentially innocent guy. Nice one ;)

Well, I gotta remember them. :p

lol, well in my experience, when it comes to sex the reasons just kinda come naturally

like a puzzle falling perfectly into place


and it's only afterwards that you rationalize it in any way that you can :)

Tehe, I'm listening to Queen while I read this thread.

Not that... I'm saying anything about dear Freddy of course.

Why do humans have sex?

Boy, you would have to be pretty stupid to ask that question.

because it's fun.

Tehe, I'm listening to Queen while I read this thread.

Not that... I'm saying anything about dear Freddy of course.


i'd like to hear what freddy would have said to such a question


i think it would probably be along the lines of "why not?" :D

lol, well in my experience, when it comes to sex the reasons just kinda come naturally

like a puzzle falling perfectly into place


and it's only afterwards that you rationalize it in any way that you can :)

True.

Ah so you randomly assaulted a potentially innocent guy. Nice one ;)
Yeah, that's what I thought, too. Somewhat regretting it, but oh well.

I was bored?

Pun intended?

Why do humans have sex?

I don't know either, it's all inevitable if you ask me.