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You can't make this stuff up, I don't think. :p

Cruelty-Free Consumption in New Zealand: A National Report on the Perspectives and Experiences of Vegetarians and other Ethical Consumers asked 157 people nationwide about everything from battery chickens to sexual preferences.

Many female respondents described being attracted to people who ate meat, but said they did not want to have sex with meat-eaters because their bodies were made up of animal carcasses.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/AAMB4/aamsz=300x44_MULTILINK/4147483a6009.html

Warning: Rough-looking "Vegan" woman behind the link.

Now, I'm all for freedom of choice - if you want to shun others on the basis of what they eat, or what they wear, or what color their shoes are, that's fine. It just seems to me that, for whatever reason, perhaps the need for group identity or simple brainwashing, the extreme animal-types are sort of multiplying. Of course, they're still only multiplying from numbers around 0.01% to 0.011%, but it's notable nonetheless as an 'alternate' lifestyle. ;)

So, I ask: what do you make of this 'movement?' What do you attribute it to, and where do you see it going? If you belong to it, would you be disturbed at having 'relations' with a non-'vegan,' or is that not a priority?

No poll this time. :p

If the idea of having sex with someone who eats meat repulses her, then having sex with someone who eats meat is not going to be fun. She's repulsed. Even if the reason itself is a little odd for the mainstream, it's nice that she's being honest about whether or not she's repulsed. I mean, it would suck if, after being married for 10 years, she divorced some guy because she couldn't handle it anymore. Better to not go there in the first place.

I atribute it to the power of the mind, and honesty. *shrug*

That's true. I was sort of trying to relate it to the wider question, but it is, in itself, quite an odd quirk. :p

oh no they getting more crazy

If the idea of having sex with someone who eats meat repulses her, then having sex with someone who eats meat is not going to be fun. She's repulsed. Even if the reason itself is a little odd for the mainstream, it's nice that she's being honest about whether or not she's repulsed. I mean, it would suck if, after being married for 10 years, she divorced some guy because she couldn't handle it anymore. Better to not go there in the first place.

I atribute it to the power of the mind, and honesty. *shrug*

Vegetables aren't food.

Vegetables aren't food.

My stomach tends to agree with that. :p Fish is the only exception.

It's not so odd to not to want to taste or smell carne on or out of someone else, i think. People have some unusual musk when they get to spawnin', as it is.

That might be true, if smell is an issue. In general, vegetables make me stink more than meat. God knows what sauerkraut and certain beans do to my digestive tract. :p

That's true. I was sort of trying to relate it to the wider question, but it is, in itself, quite an odd quirk. :p

It's not so odd to not to want to taste or smell carne on or out of someone else, i think. People have some unusual musk when they get to spawnin', as it is.

Vegetables aren't food.Erm ... chez what?

You can't make this stuff up, I don't think. :p

http://www.stuff.co.nz/AAMB4/aamsz=300x44_MULTILINK/4147483a6009.html


Hey, don't blame us - veganism and all the associated granola ideology is entirely cargo-cult stuff. 100% imported. :p

I saw this online today, at work. My initial reaction was, "well, I don't much fancy rooting a compost pile either". You are what you eat, after all... :)

Hey, don't blame us - veganism and all the associated granola ideology is entirely cargo-cult stuff. 100% imported. :p

I saw this online today, at work. My initial reaction was, "well, I don't much fancy rooting a compost pile either". You are what you eat, after all... :)

That's probably true. And a little nuttiness adds character, besides. :)

EDIT:

Er... actually the one on the right is a bloke.

Eh. The one on the left looks about 1/4 alien, and 3/4 ugly. :p

The last time I checked, most people aren't made of vegetable fibre ...

That might be true, if smell is an issue. In general, vegetables make me stink more than meat. God knows what sauerkraut and certain beans do to my digestive tract. :p

Agreed. There has to be a happy balance. :)

To quote the Arrogant Worms:

Salads are only for murderers;
Coleslaw's a fascist regime.
Don't think that they don't have feelings
Just 'cause a radish can't scream!

Your words failed to adequately warn for what lay in wait behind that link. Creepy naked rough looking woman with creepy naked man is more accurate.

I think what she need is some animal based proteins and fat.

The vegtablists continue their attempts at world conquest...

Warning: Rough-looking "Vegan" woman behind the link.

Your words failed to adequately warn for what lay in wait behind that link. Creepy naked rough looking woman with creepy naked man is more accurate.

Your words failed to adequately warn for what lay in wait behind that link. Creepy naked rough looking woman with creepy naked man is more accurate.

That's true - I apologize for that. I need to work on my disclaimers. This has happened before. :(

I think what she need is some animal based proteins and fat.

That's the first time I've ever seen someone reply quickly enough to time warp at this time of morning. Normally I can go away for ten minutes and no one has said anything anywhere in General. :p

That's the first time I've ever seen someone reply quickly enough to time warp at this time of morning. Normally I can go away for ten minutes and no one has said anything anywhere in General. :p

+7 GMT here,... but maybe a bit distorted due to the timewarp.

Vegans need to get over themselves. They are almost as self-righteous as fundamental christians or feminist.

+7 GMT here,... but maybe a bit distorted due to the timewarp.

Oh, I know it's not morning everywhere; I just meant that at this time of day, which happens to be mid-morning here, the forum is generally very quiet. It's not uncommon to be the last poster on half a dozen threads.

We should form a morning crew and conquer the boards while everyone else is asleep. :p

Oh, I know it's not morning everywhere; I just meant that at this time of day, which happens to be mid-morning here, the forum is generally very quiet. It's not uncommon to be the last poster on half a dozen threads.

We should form a morning crew and conquer the boards while everyone else is asleep. :p

I've been thinking along these lines as well - the board's ripe for plotting at this hour.

If this is the case, vegans may even go one step further, and refuse to have sex with anyone who has ever eaten meat, because there may be some legacy animal carcasses in their bodies.

I see foresee that in time, a certain re-birth of a species (prompted by a small genepool) Homo robustus (I know the original wasn't of Homo genus, but give me a break). That's if they even survive at all.

So, I ask: what do you make of this 'movement?' What do you attribute it to, and where do you see it going? If you belong to it, would you be disturbed at having 'relations' with a non-'vegan,' or is that not a priority?I'm vegan. Have been for years. My wife isn't.

I'm not part of any sort of movement. I'm vegan for a number of reasons, including animal cruelty, efficiency and environmental costs of animal production, but equally important is the simple fact that I find the idea repulsive.

That last reason may seem strange to some, but you almost certainly share the gist of it. GM made a comment about brain sausage (yesterday, I think), in the context that eating the brains of a cow is disgusting, while eating the rest of it isn't. Other people think eating insects or humans is repulsive. There's no real difference, it's just a matter of degree and personal prejudices.

Obviously I don't care whether or not a partner shares my dietary habits or preferences, but I do insist she brush her teeth before I'll kiss her, and I won't share her toothbrush. Is it a bit hysterical? Probably. But I'm sure she prefers I actually want her, and not just close my eyes and try not to vomit in her mouth. I know I do.

I've been thinking along these lines as well - the board's ripe for plotting at this hour.

What form should our evil plot take?

What form should our evil plot take?

Whatever it is, it MUST be evil.

*strokes cat*

Vegans need to get over themselves. They are almost as self-righteous as fundamental christians or feminist.

I'm agreeing with this more and more as I read stories like this and interact with 'vegans' of different kinds. It's really a bit nutty, in my view. :p

I'm vegan. Have been for years. My wife isn't.

I'm not part of any sort of movement. I'm vegan for a number of reasons, including animal cruelty, efficiency and environmental costs of animal production, but equally important is the simple fact that I find the idea repulsive.

That last reason may seem strange to some, but you almost certainly share the gist of it. GM made a comment about brain sausage (yesterday, I think), in the context that eating the brains of a cow is disgusting, while eating the rest of it isn't. Other people think eating insects or humans is repulsive. There's no real difference, it's just a matter of degree and personal prejudices.

Obviously I don't care whether or not a partner shares my dietary habits or preferences, but I do insist she brush her teeth before I'll kiss her, and I won't share her toothbrush. Is it a bit hysterical? Probably. But I'm sure she prefers I actually want her, and not just close my eyes and try not to vomit in her mouth. I know I do.

Well, that's a bit odd, but it's your right, of course. Me, I eat animal brains and insects just as readily as a matter of simple nutrition. We all get it in different ways, I guess.

Whatever it is, it MUST be evil.

*strokes cat*

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/soon.jpg

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/soon.jpg

Yes, we need to match that level of evil intent, it must also be so cunning you could stick a tail on it and call it a weasel.

EDIT: Clearly, as much as we can do is flood the board with new threads, written in lolcat or similar - the other way would be to create 1 word threads that, when read all the way down, form some sort of message.

EDIT EDIT: Ha ha Mods, just kidding

*strokes cat*

Yes, we need to match that level of evil intent, it must also be so cunning you could stick a tail on it and call it a weasel.

EDIT: Clearly, as much as we can do is flood the board with new threads, written in lolcat or similar - the other way would be to create 1 word threads that, when read all the way down, form some sort of message.

EDIT EDIT: Ha ha Mods, just kidding

*strokes cat*

We need to be cunning. As cunning as a fox who has just been appointed Professor of Cunning at Oxford University.

We should start by taking over all the positions of NSG - the Presidency, the Parliament, the Pope. You can be the new Sexiest Female poster if you like.

We need to be cunning. As cunning as a fox who has just been appointed Professor of Cunning at Oxford University.

We should start by taking over all the positions of NSG - the Presidency, the Parliament, the Pope. You can be the new Sexiest Female poster if you like.

So cunning you could brush your teeth with it?

So cunning that I, as a male, could be considered Sexiest Female Poster - at last, the time for my new Blahniks has arrived!

Cunning indeed.

You can't make this stuff up, I don't think. :p

Now, I'm all for freedom of choice - if you want to shun others on the basis of what they eat, or what they wear, or what color their shoes are, that's fine. It just seems to me that, for whatever reason, perhaps the need for group identity or simple brainwashing, the extreme animal-types are sort of multiplying. Of course, they're still only multiplying from numbers around 0.01% to 0.011%, but it's notable nonetheless as an 'alternate' lifestyle. ;)

I can understand that people object to needless cruelty towards fellow sentient beings - I'd like that the animals I eat are treated in the best way before slaughtering them, and I prefer that animals are killed in the less painful way possible. Anyway, refusing to eat meat won't improve the life standards of cattle: that's because the number of people who demand meat will always be a lot larger than the number of vegans and vegetarians (ask a starving kid if he prefers lettuce or chicken). Laws, not pointless protests, will improve the life standards of animals.

Anyway, about the "corpse-eater" (yeah, I've been called that by vegetarians and vegans)... well, usually I reply "you know, it is difficult bite away the hind-quarters of a beef if it's still running. Also, I like to seat when I eat, and I like my meat cooked, not raw, so I'm having my meat dead, as cats, bears, lions and wolves do". Usually the veganfundies run away disgusted after that.


So, I ask: what do you make of this 'movement?' What do you attribute it to, and where do you see it going? If you belong to it, would you be disturbed at having 'relations' with a non-'vegan,' or is that not a priority?

Oh well, I'd never want to have much relationship with a veganfundy. If a girl doesn't appreciate my cooking and makes disgusted faces and stupid remarks when I'm eating a bologna sandwich, the eventual sexual attraction is going downhill, I'll tell you.

Also, the "you're made by what you eat so your sperm is dead cows you corpse eater" attitude is a total idiocy and reflects perfectly the ignorance of these people about human physiology... have they ever heard about protein synthesis etc? I'd guess they haven't. I could also reply, "your body is decaying leaves so go away, you stink of rotten wood". Idiots.

No poll this time. :p:eek::eek: My compulsive need of poll-voting is being unsatisfied! AIEEE!

Btw, I hear a lot of news on the media about veganfundy parents who force vegan diet on newborns. Those poor kids starve, sometimes to death, because of lack of amminoacids and fat - and even the milk of vegan women is also very poor on amminoacids and fat, that are crucial to the development and growth of a human body.

Also, the difference between gorillas and humans. Gorillas are vegan primates. They have to waste most of their time eating and digesting leaves. Humans are omnivorous primates - it is easily shown by the differences in the intestines, the difference in teeth. By eating more nutritive, and easier digested food- that is, meat - we gained a lot of time and resources to develop our brain. Humans HAVE to eat meat.
Our ancestors separated from the ancestors of the gorilla because they became omnivorous dwellers of the prairies, instead that vegan dwellers of the jungle.

Eventually, all veganfundies will starve themselves or their kids to death, thus obliterating themselves out of the history of human genoma. Bye bye.

I love my country!

The women actually screen themselves and remove the wierdos so I don't have to.

Warning: Rough-looking "Vegan" woman behind the link.

Hey, she looks like Bon Jovi...

Also, the "you're made by what you eat so your sperm is dead cows you corpse eater" attitude is a total idiocy and reflects perfectly the ignorance of these people about human physiology... have they ever heard about protein synthesis etc? I'd guess they haven't. I could also reply, "your body is decaying leaves so go away, you stink of rotten wood".

QFT

Them: "You're made of dead animals!!!"
Me: "How interesting...I see you never payed any attention in Biology 101."

Idiots.

Couldn't have said it better myself. :)

Ahhhh only in New Zealand..... mkes me proud of my country

This is the danger of rationalization. First, you take a harmless vegetarian and with a sudden spurt of rationalization, he realizes that not only does he have a responibility to eat no meat, but to eat nothing made from animals or their exploitation. Boom. A Vegan is born. Then, some vegans(in a fit of rationalization) stop having sex with other people because they eat meat and are therefore composed of animal carcasses. Now people are being deprived sex because of rationalization(which isn't really that much of a loss. I have yet to meet a fuckable vegan). One more sudden spurt of rationalization, and maybe vegans will realize that vegetables are grown from animal waste. :eek:

This is why I prefer irrationality. :)

Does no one else thinks she looks like Bon Jovi?

carnivore? I don't know if I would have sex with someone whose entire diet was meat either? no champagne and strawberries? no pancakes? that is a sucky after sex snack......"here, have some bacon" eww.......

If you mean omnivores, I kinda understand that too........when I was vegan people who ate animal stuffs kinda made me nauseas.

People having more resources and free time than at any other point in time in our history.

Do these people realise that there is animal carcass in their vegetables? If you're not hypocritical about it, this is self-destructive logic. Unfortunately they ARE being hypocritical about so they can complain AND survive. Odds are that my body contains several atoms that at one point were part of <random tyrant's> body.

Does no one else thinks she looks like Bon Jovi?

I didn't until you said that...

But bacon is awesome.

God I wish the environmentalist/vegan nutjob movement would just disassociate themselves with us proper intellectual leftists, it's such an embarrassment. Since when is not eating meat something radical, sheesh, please go and put your personal crap in my tl;dr box thanks.

I wonder if she wants to be reborn as a sheep, suits her current lifestyle.

Ooooookkkk....

Wow, just wow. If they want to not eat meat, fine, but this kind of crap is annoying. Yes, it is their right not to go out with people who eat meat, yes, but "you are made out of dead animals" is total bullshit, and they need to go back to school.

Geez. Well, better knock down a point in my faith in humanity *scratches line on a wall with thousands of lines*

Hmmm....-1025 today. Sure is getting low recently.....

or administered orally.

Sexual innuendo...? :D

I have nothing to say about this that hasn't already been said, so here's a picture of a bunny. (http://icanhascheezburger.com/2007/06/21/i-no-can-has-cheezburgr/)

The problem with Vegan, or any animal aversive diet is a lack of protien. Yeah, there are some vegitables (legumes for example) that have protien in them, but they tend to be difficult to digest. This is especially true for women, who for issues that are better left to other threads, avoid difficult and inefficent digesting food.

Now, meat-centric diets tend to have too much protien, due to the high concentration of that particular nutrient in animal muscular tissue. Now this is mainly a problem for men, who due to societal pressures, tend to overindulge in meats.

I think we need to correct this, and from now on, canisorive men need to *donate* protien to protien difficient women. This can be done either by injection or administered orally.

The problem with Vegan, or any animal aversive diet is a lack of protien. Yeah, there are some vegitables (legumes for example) that have protien in them, but they tend to be difficult to digest. This is especially true for women, who for issues that are better left to other threads, avoid difficult and inefficent digesting food.

Now, meat-centric diets tend to have too much protien, due to the high concentration of that particular nutrient in animal muscular tissue. Now this is mainly a problem for men, who due to societal pressures, tend to overindulge in meats.

I think we need to correct this, and from now on, canisorive men need to *donate* protien to protien difficient women. This can be done either by injection or administered orally.

WIN

Well it seems there is a consensus among many vegans/vegetarians that oral sex with another vegan/vegetarian is more pleasant tasting. I've heard similar things about kissing but not often.

I personally think so as well but that isn't going to stop me from enjoying some hanky panky with a hot carnivore. Though, I don't want to taste bacon on the lips of someone I'm making out with so I'd hope that they brush first just as I would hope a smoker would brush or mouthwash first before I kiss them.

I don't see anything wrong with these woman making such a choice. I hope the trend grows exponentially so that my chances of getting teh hot sex go up as others lose out. It would be sweet justice to see all those omnivores, who equate vegetarianism with mental illness, to be rejected for their diet. HAH!

Yeah, and plants are made from recycled animal feces. So that mean vegetarians are made of cow shit. Wait, LOL WUT?