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Marching innit

http://www.buzzle.com/articles/teens-vow-to-march-across-country-for-peace.html

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"...distracted by ice cream truck."

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"A lot of people we meet are against the war. But it doesn’t seem like many people are doing anything about it."
-But going for a walk sure will.

Kinda makes you wonder, with all of the other far more important things going on it the world, how this story even got picked up.

I'd say something along the lines of 'what a bunch of stupid kids' but they couldn't even get a bunch together. This march is made of fail and must be trolled IRL whenever encountered.

"A lot of people we meet are against the war. But it doesn’t seem like many people are doing anything about it."
-But going for a walk sure will.

Kinda makes you wonder, with all of the other far more important things going on it the world, how this story even got picked up.

I'd say something along the lines of 'what a bunch of stupid kids' but they couldn't even get a bunch together. This march is made of fail and must be trolled IRL whenever encountered.
Yeah, cause you know protests and marches never do a damn thing to make it clear to the government and other people in charge what the people want. :rolleyes:

Come on. They're doing the best they can. They're teens. They really can't do anything other than march. And their message is a good one, as peace always is.

My bets a third are doing it to schock their parents, another third have nothing better planned, and the other third want an excuse to avoid things they were scheduled for that they dont want to do.

Will there be hot chicks?

I sure hope that their shoe of choice ain't Birkenstocks. While comfortable, they certainly aren't fit for extremely long walks. I mean, after one or two days, their feet will be so covered in blisters, that they'll not know what to do.

Teen march across the country for peace.

Thus doing nothing for the actual peace process.

Teen quits after two days after they realize that this is 'really hard'!

*Homer, what do you want out of life?*

-Peas-

*Sure, we all want peace, but how do we get it?*

-Hm? With a knife!-

(paraphrased simpsons)

Very true. We'll see how they like crossing the Rockies. :p

See, this is why they should've just starved for peace, you don't have to do ANYTHING! :D

Meh. It'll take them months, and no one will care by the time they leave the Bay area. It's been a hot summer - they'd better be well prepared or take a northern route. :p Also, it's going to be awfully expensive if they're staying at motels every night.

Teen march across the country for peace.

Thus doing nothing for the actual peace process.

Teen quits after two days after they realize that this is 'really hard'!

Very true. We'll see how they like crossing the Rockies. :p

Very true. We'll see how they like crossing the Rockies. :p

They've crossed the rockies already.

I can't see this march having any kind of effect at all.

The war in Iraq will continue until the politicians decide that it no longer benefits them.

The idea of Americans having the power to control & influence the government seems like a lie more and more each day.

In the end, this march to end the war is the physical representation of the will of the American people when it comes to Iraq: Some want it to end, but don't have the power to end it themselves. Most don't really care.

They've crossed the rockies already.

Meh. Should've posted the article a few weeks ago, then. ;)

They've crossed the rockies already.

Wait, where are they right now?

Wait, where are they right now?

Article says "somewhere in Iowa," although I doubt anyone's really checking the authenticity of the whole thing. :p

Just wanted to say to the people that are asking how this helps in bringing peace...

It's mainly for the publicity, you have to be someone, or have done something to get attention in this country. And that's what they're doing, notice that you're talking about them now and commenting on the futility of their actions. You see, without the publicity nobody would ever care/know about their opinions.

Just wanted to say to the people that are asking how this helps in bringing peace...

It's mainly for the publicity, you have to be someone, or have done something to get attention in this country. And that's what they're doing, notice that you're talking about them now and commenting on the futility of their actions. You see, without the publicity nobody would ever care/know about their opinions.

Eh. Not all 'talk' is good talk.

Honestly, when reading the article, my eyes glazed over right about the time I saw they were being sponsored by Code Pink and Not in Our Name. That's a formula for nuttery, really. :p

Eh. Not all 'talk' is good talk.

Honestly, when reading the article, my eyes glazed over right about the time I saw they were being sponsored by Code Pink and Not in Our Name. That's a formula for nuttery, really. :p

Well I would say one of their goals is to get their message out to the American people, that would be done no?

On the other hand, as for their final goal of bringing peace...

Well I would say one of their goals is to get their message out to the American people, that would be done no?

On the other hand, as for their final goal of bringing peace...

Nah. Two kids walking probably won't get much word out, and most sane people associate those groups with fringe extremism anyhow. Although I love the fact that the odds and ends of the news sort of filter down to this forum - it's a good catch and an interesting 'slice of life' story. :)

Nah. Two kids walking probably won't get much word out, and most sane people associate those groups with fringe extremism anyhow. Although I love the fact that the odds and ends of the news sort of filter down to this forum - it's a good catch and an interesting 'slice of life' story. :)

Well at least they're doing something constructive with their time, as of now, I've never attracted any national attention, best I've got is city newspaper.

Just wanted to say to the people that are asking how this helps in bringing peace...

It's mainly for the publicity, you have to be someone, or have done something to get attention in this country. And that's what they're doing, notice that you're talking about them now and commenting on the futility of their actions. You see, without the publicity nobody would ever care/know about their opinions.

People with far more publicity, notoriety, and influence have tried and failed to end this war. How are two nobodies going to get it done?

People with far more publicity, notoriety, and influence have tried and failed to end this war. How are two nobodies going to get it done?

Through the power of pity and symbolism? Beats me. :p

People with far more publicity, notoriety, and influence have tried and failed to end this war. How are two nobodies going to get it done?

Well they alone can't end it, but with enough voices joining the rising tide, you never know.

Well at least they're doing something constructive with their time, as of now, I've never attracted any national attention, best I've got is city newspaper.

Well, I guess a blink-of-an-eye mention on some page deep in the newspaper is better than no mention, if that's these kids' goal.

Teen March for Peace....

War continues in the Middle East the next day.....

Phail!

Teen March for Peace....

War continues in the Middle East the next day.....

Phail!

So just because the war continues they fail? You know about them, I know about them, we know their opinions, if more people would do things like this then it would have an effect, although they do need a lot more people.

Kinda makes you wonder, with all of the other far more important things going on it the world, how this story even got picked up.

Apparently you know nothing about newsworthiness, douche (I wasn't going to resort to calling you a name, but your own post was so full of negativity and ignorance I decided I was justified).

So just because the war continues they fail? You know about them, I know about them, we know their opinions, if more people would do things like this then it would have an effect, although they do need a lot more people.

Peace will never happen in this world, because we're humans, we're a violent and war-mongering race that has no qualms with killing our fellow man over as something as stupid as 25 cents (US) or something as big as a Holy War. We're always going to have violence, we're always going to have Wars, we're always going to have conflict.

So just because the war continues they fail? You know about them, I know about them, we know their opinions, if more people would do things like this then it would have an effect, although they do need a lot more people.

It still stands that extremist-backed protests are less effective than those conducted by 'regular' citizens. Those tend to impress with far more efficiency. At any rate, groups that promote absolutist pacifism impress almost no one.

Well they alone can't end it, but with enough voices joining the rising tide, you never know.

Yeah, but see, those tides won't be coming. Ever.

Peace will never happen in this world, because we're humans, we're a violent and war-mongering race that has no qualms with killing our fellow man over as something as stupid as 25 cents (US) or something as big as a Holy War. We're always going to have violence, we're always going to have Wars, we're always going to have conflict.

Well this is sort of the problem, you see, if you stood with them, and you say that you think peace is possible, they have one more on their side, and the chance of a lasting peace becomes greater. It is people that say it is impossible who prevent it, along with those whose greed makes them forget the value of a life. It's only impossible if you believe it is, peace is difficult to achieve, but with that attitude, you won't help it, and you make it impossible.

Well this is sort of the problem, you see, if you stood with them, and you say that you think peace is possible, they have one more on their side, and the chance of a lasting peace becomes greater. It is people that say it is impossible who prevent it, along with those whose greed makes them forget the value of a life. It's only impossible if you believe it is, peace is difficult to achieve, but with that attitude, you won't help it, and you make it impossible.

No, human nature makes it impossible. I mean comon, when you have a species that kill over some of the stupidest thing you'll ever hear of (mine would be 25 cents, and I wish I was kidding), ehhh, there's really not much hope.

No, human nature makes it impossible. I mean comon, when you have a species that kill over some of the stupidest thing you'll ever hear of (mine would be 25 cents, and I wish I was kidding), ehhh, there's really not much hope.

Well, if everyone thinks that world peace is possible, then it is. The way you can help is if you believe it is possible. You see, if everyone on earth was in total agreement (a great feat no doubt) that we should have peace, then we would. And if you want world peace, all you have to do is accept it is possible, and not make war.

Well, if everyone thinks that world peace is possible, then it is. The way you can help is if you believe it is possible. You see, if everyone on earth was in total agreement (a great feat no doubt) that we should have peace, then we would. And if you want world peace, all you have to do is accept it is possible, and not make war.

So, how do you propose you get Israel and Palestinians not to wage war? Or how about the Shiites and the Sunnis?

Well, if everyone thinks that world peace is possible, then it is. The way you can help is if you believe it is possible. You see, if everyone on earth was in total agreement (a great feat no doubt) that we should have peace, then we would. And if you want world peace, all you have to do is accept it is possible, and not make war.

Peace isn't always the best course, I hope you're not forgetting. Sometimes the only way to prevent a greater harm is with force.

So, how do you propose you get Israel and Palestinians not to wage war? Or how about the Shiites and the Sunnis?

Flower in the rifle barrel? *nod*

So, how do you propose you get Israel and Palestinians not to wage war? Or how about the Shiites and the Sunnis?

Well for all we know the government could be creating hostilities between Shias and Sunnis, it's easier to conquer when your potential foes are fighting amongst themselves. In any case, if one would stop shooting the other, then there's still hope. In Islam, such a deep division is not liked, it is bad from the Islamic point of view. But it all goes down to belief.

As for the Palestinians and Israelis, I'm sure most people are ready for peace after 50 years. Granted, there's a few lunatics still running around, and they generally are in control of both governments, but I think the people are already tired of it all, they just need to take the reins themselves now.

Of course I'm probably being to optimistic for all you pessimists, but oh well.

Peace isn't always the best course, I hope you're not forgetting. Sometimes the only way to prevent a greater harm is with force.

In my opinion that's not a great philosophy. You're only convincing yourself that it's for the greater good, haven't you read the last Harry Potter book yet?

In my opinion that's not a great philosophy. You're only convincing yourself that it's for the greater good, haven't you read the last Harry Potter book yet?

Are you being serious? Harry Potter? :p No, I haven't read it.

Peace is ideal, but if you're not willing to sacrifice *anything* for it, you'll never have it. That sort of implies the possibility of war.

Are you being serious? Harry Potter? :p No, I haven't read it.

Peace is ideal, but if you're not willing to sacrifice *anything* for it, you'll never have it. That sort of implies the possibility of war.

Too bad you haven't read it, you might have understood the true meaning of that post...

But basically you just said that you would want peace, and what I'm trying to say is that if everyone else is convinced that peace is possible and they all want peace, then we have it. Is that not simple?

Too bad you haven't read it, you might have understood the true meaning of that post...

It wouldn't have been worth it.

But basically you just said that you would want peace, and what I'm trying to say is that if everyone else is convinced that peace is possible and they all want peace, then we have it. Is that not simple?

Yes. It's simple, I'll give you that. :p Unfortunately, the world tends to be a bit more complex than "think happy thoughts," being the solution to global crises.

It wouldn't have been worth it.



Yes. It's simple, I'll give you that. :p Unfortunately, the world tends to be a bit more complex than "think happy thoughts," being the solution to global crises.

Well, if you believe world peace is possible and you want it, you are no longer a part of the problem. Now all we have to do is convince all those other people. Seeing as this took me about 30 min., multiply by 6 billion, and hey, in 180 billion minutes we could have world peace!

Teen march across the country for peace.

Thus doing nothing for the actual peace process.

Teen quits after two days after they realize that this is 'really hard'!

How are they doing NOTHING? They are doing what they can - they are showing that they are against the war and are trying to inspire other people to do something too. Why so negative?

it you want the best place to start is you own yard so let us start here .and let us march caery no sighs or banner but but are hope for peace and act in it too . we can not only bring peace to are self's these way but to all.and then to the u.n. i'm not only spaeking to you as a person playing these game but as a pacifist and a american. but i do not view myself in that way. becouse i am one person in the world and we all sher the world. so now i have qischen way do we fheit and kill over these concepts and things?

Well, if everyone thinks that world peace is possible, then it is. The way you can help is if you believe it is possible. You see, if everyone on earth was in total agreement (a great feat no doubt) that we should have peace, then we would. And if you want world peace, all you have to do is accept it is possible, and not make war.
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=_xjw-l673UI&mode=related&search=

it you want the best place to start is you own yard so let us start here .and let us march caery no sighs or banner but but are hope for peace and act in it too . we can not only bring peace to are self's these way but to all.and then to the u.n. i'm not only spaeking to you as a person playing these game but as a pacifist and a american. but i do not view myself in that way. becouse i am one person in the world and we all sher the world. so now i have qischen way do we fheit and kill over these concepts and things?

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q100/TheSteveslols/t81b4c.jpg

An army recruiter they met along the way told them that American soldiers fighting in Iraq were making the real "march for peace."

WTF is this 1984: Ministry of Peace handles war...

How are they doing NOTHING? They are doing what they can - they are showing that they are against the war and are trying to inspire other people to do something too. Why so negative?

It's the equivalent to giving a homeless guy a quarter.

Yeah they're doing something, but that little something isn't going to change anything.

I can't see this march having any kind of effect at all.

The war in Iraq will continue until the politicians decide that it no longer benefits them.

The idea of Americans having the power to control & influence the government seems like a lie more and more each day.

In the end, this march to end the war is the physical representation of the will of the American people when it comes to Iraq: Some want it to end, but don't have the power to end it themselves. Most don't really care.
How is it a lie? They collectively CHOOSE their government.

And who do you think you are to act like you would know how much most people care? What, do you think you can read minds or something?

What? People in the US are doing something other than sitting on their asses and munching cheetos and posting on message boards or growing fatter in front of the television?

How could they be interested in something greater than themselves in such a selfish culture? What a waste of life, when they could be at home playing video games and dowing extreeme energy drinks and chatting online about how lame those people out in the streets trying to make a difference are.

It's much more gratifying to my ego to denounce them and call them wrong/stupid/misguided/extreemists so that I can feel right and not have to do anything other than tap a few keys while sitting around in my underwear. Otherwise I might have to look at my own lack of action and sacrifice past voting once in a while or voicing my thoughts on NSG.

I am against the war just as much as these kids. However they should find a way to protest without leaving their house because they will obviosly be kidnapped.

What? People in the US are doing something other than sitting on their asses and munching cheetos and posting on message boards or growing fatter in front of the television?

How could they be interested in something greater than themselves in such a selfish culture? What a waste of life, when they could be at home playing video games and dowing extreeme energy drinks and chatting online about how lame those people out in the streets trying to make a difference are.

It's much more gratifying to my ego to denounce them and call them wrong/stupid/misguided/extreemists so that I can feel right and not have to do anything other than tap a few keys while sitting around in my underwear. Otherwise I might have to look at my own lack of action and sacrifice past voting once in a while or voicing my thoughts on NSG.
Excellent post!! Standing ovation!!

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Genocide and Civil War in Iraq, another great step for Peace. Thank you, American teenagers, for once again, enlightening us of your excellent logic.

Excellent post!! Standing ovation!!

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Thank you good sir.