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Serious question, no bleeding heart BS. Who will it be. USA has toured most of the world, crashing hostile regimes and propping up friendly ones (with varying success). We are all familiar with their latest target, Iraq, and need not go into the messy details thereof.

The question is, who, if anyone, is next?
In your opinion, who is lined up to be spanked on Uncle Sam's knee next? Who has the shadow of the bald eagle descending upon them? Who is going to beaten up red white and blue? Who is to donate their blood for the manufacure of more red striped flags? Who will greased the wheels of democracy with the fluids seeping from their mangled twisted corpses?

The task, give your opinion, and a fun and visually evocative metaphor.

Iran, ROK, China, Canada, Nobody?

Ruffy.




What's that about being serious?

Romania:mp5:

I don't think anyone will in the next decade or so. Instead they'll do more of this: http://ca.today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2007-07-28T114424Z_01_N27335578_RTRIDST_0_NEWS-MIDEAST-USA-SAUDI-COL.XML&archived=False

Then they can contain the people they don't like without losing any soldiers themselves.

Are we talking about a full-blown invasion, or unwanted meddling?

I can see USA calming down for a bit post-Iraq, then having their economy deflate until they are no longer a major world player (or at least no longer *the* major world player). By this stage, imperialism will really be out of the budget.

However, if they were to beat somebody with the freedom stick before biting the dust, I'd expect it to be... Taiwan. In a complete reversal of their former protection of the semi-autonomous bastion of capitalism, USA would cash in their chips with PRC- hoping for a leg up back to the top. China will play along, then leave them feeling cheap and dirty.

So heads up Taiwan, the freedom stick is yearning for your liberation.

Romania:mp5:

Metaphor -_-....

Ruffy.




What's that about being serious?

I'm not Ruffy, and I kind of changed my miund half-way. Anyhow, the main point is that I am not making some pathetic attempt at US slander to somehow bolster removed left wing ideals.

So heads up Taiwan, the freedom stick is yearning for your liberation.

The same way the Salem Woman's Association, back in the good ol' days, were sharing the yearning with their brooms?

I don't think there will be conflict in the near-term. Continued strikes against terrorist cells if we have good information, maybe. I don't think there will be violence with Iran.

Are we talking about a full-blown invasion, or unwanted meddling?

Whatever, use your imagination, and don't forget the visually evocative metaphor.

Chavez is going to do another one of his dick waving moves which will prove to supply political versions of "your mom is so fat" insults with the occasional "you are the devil statement" that eventually will erupt in some sort of showdown.

Chavez is going to do another one of his dick waving moves which will prove to supply political versions of "your mom is so fat" insults with the occasional "you are the devil statement" that eventually will erupt in some sort of showdown.

Oooh I forgot Chavez. Will the throbbing pinnacle of capitalism descend into the dark depths of the hidden valley of communism? ;)

It's gotten harder to guess ever since we replaced the Axis of Evil with the Wheel of Evil. Now we've got this big wheel with the names of two dozen countries on it and we spin it to see who we're going to invade. I've got a $100 bet going right now that it'll be a country whose name ends in Korea.

Yeah, they're both on the wheel.

It's gotten harder to guess ever since we replaced the Axis of Evil with the Wheel of Evil. Now we've got this big wheel with the names of two dozen countries on it and we spin it to see who we're going to invade. I've got a $100 bet going right now that it'll be a country whose name ends in Korea.

Yeah, they're both on the wheel.Hahaha. I like it.

I think we'll continue with the theme of places beginning with "I". Iran, India, Indonesia, Indiana, Iowa, etc...

That'll learn 'em for having a name starting with "I".

I'm not Ruffy, and I kind of changed my miund half-way. Anyhow, the main point is that I am not making some pathetic attempt at US slander to somehow bolster removed left wing ideals.
I couldn't accuse you of being Ruffy, didn't even try.
It was more a one-word response to "who's next".
One of the big news items of the past year concerned the fact that China, which we called "Red China," exploded a nuclear bomb, which we called a device. Then Indonesia announced that it was going to have one soon, and proliferation became the word of the day. Here's a song about that:

First we got the bomb, and that was good,
'Cause we love peace and motherhood.
Then Russia got the bomb, but that's okay,
'Cause the balance of power's maintained that way.
Who's next?

France got the bomb, but don't you grieve,
'Cause they're on our side (I believe).
China got the bomb, but have no fears,
They can't wipe us out for at least five years.
Who's next?

Then Indonesia claimed that they
Were gonna get one any day.
South Africa wants two, that's right:
One for the black and one for the white.
Who's next?

Egypt's gonna get one too,
Just to use on you know who.
So Israel's getting tense.
Wants one in self defense.
"The Lord's our shepherd," says the psalm,
But just in case, we better get a bomb.
Who's next?

Luxembourg is next to go,
And (who knows?) maybe Monaco.
We'll try to stay serene and calm
When Alabama gets the bomb.
Who's next?
It's funny how many things he addressed that seem current here but he penned back in the 50's and 60's.


But go ahead with the attempts, unhindered!

Ooh, what about Ingland?

Ireland?





Ah, the two-minute YOINK!
:D

I think we'll continue with the theme of places beginning with "I". Iran, India, Indonesia, Indiana, Iowa, etc...

That'll learn 'em for having a name starting with "I".

Ooh, what about Ingland?

Ooh, what about Ingland?

Ireland?

Worry not, we'll get 'em both.

Iran.

#1 supporter of Terrorism in the world is going to get it's ass handed to them either by Israel or the US when they get a nuke.

It's pretty difficult to tell, although all the media hype against Iran, Venezuela, and Cuba is a good indicator. But I don't think there are plans to leave Iraq, so their probably won't be a full blown invasion in any case. Perhaps there shall be some bombing, and/or funding of groups that struggle against the current governments in power in those countries.

Worry not, we'll get 'em both.

The RAGE virus?

I think it might actually be fun to determine it by referendum this time around. Not to decide whether we're going to invade someone, mind you... just to figure out who it's going to be. There could be campaigns and everything, it'd be wonderfully entertaining.

I think you'll all find I'm full of ideas on this subject.

More, per favore?



*apt pupil*


Ah, YOINK for dessert. Twice in one night. Jolt <3 all 'round.

I think it might actually be fun to determine it by referendum this time around. Not to decide whether we're going to invade someone, mind you... just to figure out who it's going to be. There could be campaigns and everything, it'd be wonderfully entertaining.

I think you'll all find I'm full of ideas on this subject.

Iran.

#1 supporter of Terrorism in the world is going to get it's ass handed to them either by Israel or the US when they get a nuke.

Why do you think Iran is trying to get a nuke?

I think we'll continue with the theme of places beginning with "I". Iran, India, Indonesia, Indiana, Iowa, etc...

That'll learn 'em for having a name starting with "I".

Aha. So *that's* why Afghanistan didn't see it coming. :p

The RAGE virus?

Most likely the old fashioned "bomb them for freedom" technique, but "near-zombify them for freedom" could probably work too. Gotta keep up with the times and all.

Aha. So *that's* why Afghanistan didn't see it coming. :p

The policy at the time was to use the full name i.e. "Islamic Republic of Afghanistan" but they changed the policy in 2002.

Most likely the old fashioned "bomb them for freedom" technique, but "near-zombify them for freedom" could probably work too. Gotta keep up with the times and all.
That, and i SINCERELY believe that the "free market" will fare better over the virulogical aspect than it would with nukes. Compare stock. *nods*

More, per favore?

*apt pupil*

Ah, YOINK for dessert. Twice in one night. Jolt <3 all 'round.

Seven words, two phrases, and then I'm going to sleep.

Nuclear missile targeting data.

Random number generator.

Good night, NSG.

Seven words, two phrases, and then I'm going to sleep.

Nuclear missile targeting data.

Random number generator.

Good night, NSG.

That is a good night, indeed!
Nigan: He does fit the profile perfectly. He's intelligent, but an under-achiever; alienated from his parents; has few friends. Classic case for recruitment by the Soviets.
Arthur Cabot: Now what does this say about the state of our country, hmm? I mean have you got any insight as to why a bright boy like this would jeopardize the lives of millions.
[the General rolls his eyes]
Nigan: No sir. He says he does this sort of thing for fun.
Arthur Cabot: What!?
..
Joshua: Shall we play a game?
David Lightman: Oh!
Jennifer: I think it missed him.
David Lightman: Yeah. Weird isn't it? Love to. How about Global Thermonuclear War.
Joshua: Wouldn't you prefer a nice game of chess?
David Lightman: Later. Right now lets play Global Thermonuclear War.
Joshua: Fine. :rolleyes:

USA vs China - Whoever wins, we lose.

Serious question, no bleeding heart BS. Who will it be. USA has toured most of the world, crashing hostile regimes and propping up friendly ones (with varying success). We are all familiar with their latest target, Iraq, and need not go into the messy details thereof.

The question is, who, if anyone, is next?
In your opinion, who is lined up to be spanked on Uncle Sam's knee next? Who has the shadow of the bald eagle descending upon them? Who is going to beaten up red white and blue? Who is to donate their blood for the manufacure of more red striped flags? Who will greased the wheels of democracy with the fluids seeping from their mangled twisted corpses?

The task, give your opinion, and a fun and visually evocative metaphor.

Iran, ROK, China, Canada, Nobody?

ROK or Canada? Put down the crack pipe, please.

Iran is the most likely target for the Bushistas, although an invasion is unlikely. I expect Bush will order airstrikes against Iran's nuclear sites before he finishes his term. He's a lame duck, so he doesn't have to worry about re-election.. He's a true believer in the application of force against Iran. He doesn't believe his successor will do what he believes need to be done.

Eternia. They've had the power for far too long.

Fortunately Congress is now democratic, so Bush won't be able to sneak in another war.

Maybe China, if they start to misbehave, but I don't think that that's likely to materialize soon. Rather, I'd expect a spate of nice little peacekeeping measures, once we get ourselves out of our current mess. Perhaps rapping on Sudan's door and demanding that they play nice in Darfur.

Maybe China, if they start to misbehave, but I don't think that that's likely to materialize soon. Rather, I'd expect a spate of nice little peacekeeping measures, once we get ourselves out of our current mess. Perhaps rapping on Sudan's door and demanding that they play nice in Darfur."Misbehave" meaning "not in a fashion to please the US" ?
Oh yes, I'd like to see the US try with China what they do with Iraq.

"Misbehave" meaning "not in a fashion to please the US" ?
Oh yes, I'd like to see the US try with China what they do with Iraq.

Bomb the crap out of it, then attempt to occupy and get attacked by the millions of angry citizens?

I reckon they could do that.

R'lyeh, 2012. It will end with the destruction of the planet. You heard it here first.

Serious question, no bleeding heart BS. Who will it be. USA has toured most of the world, crashing hostile regimes and propping up friendly ones (with varying success). We are all familiar with their latest target, Iraq, and need not go into the messy details thereof.

The question is, who, if anyone, is next?
In your opinion, who is lined up to be spanked on Uncle Sam's knee next? Who has the shadow of the bald eagle descending upon them? Who is going to beaten up red white and blue? Who is to donate their blood for the manufacure of more red striped flags? Who will greased the wheels of democracy with the fluids seeping from their mangled twisted corpses?

The task, give your opinion, and a fun and visually evocative metaphor.

Iran, ROK, China, Canada, Nobody?

I'm going to say NSG.

It's gotten harder to guess ever since we replaced the Axis of Evil with the Wheel of Evil. Now we've got this big wheel with the names of two dozen countries on it and we spin it to see who we're going to invade. I've got a $100 bet going right now that it'll be a country whose name ends in Korea.

Yeah, they're both on the wheel.

I'll put $15 on Chavez! Any takers??

Most likely the head of some random FPS player.

BOOM! HEADSHOT!!1one

Oooh I forgot Chavez. Will the throbbing pinnacle of capitalism descend into the dark depths of the hidden valley of communism? ;)

That just sounds wrong. But Chavez is gonna get it if Bush can do anything (which he can't.)

It was more a one-word response to "who's next".

It's funny how many things he addressed that seem current here but he penned back in the 50's and 60's.



When Alabama gets the bomb.
Who's next?

I'm ok with all those other places, but Alabama! sheesh then West Virginia will want one and who knows where it will end?

Iran.

#1 supporter of Terrorism in the world is going to get it's ass handed to them either by Israel or the US when they get a nuke.

#1 supporter? source? And no, definetley not when they get a nuke. Before they get a nuke, maybe, but not when they get a nuke. Why? Because they'll have a goddamn nuke! And Israel attacking any other middle eastern country would result in another Entire Middle East vs Israel with Us support war, and I think they're sick of those by now.

Serious question, no bleeding heart BS. Who will it be. USA has toured most of the world, crashing hostile regimes and propping up friendly ones (with varying success). We are all familiar with their latest target, Iraq, and need not go into the messy details thereof.

The question is, who, if anyone, is next?
In your opinion, who is lined up to be spanked on Uncle Sam's knee next? Who has the shadow of the bald eagle descending upon them? Who is going to beaten up red white and blue? Who is to donate their blood for the manufacure of more red striped flags? Who will greased the wheels of democracy with the fluids seeping from their mangled twisted corpses?

The task, give your opinion, and a fun and visually evocative metaphor.

Iran, ROK, China, Canada, Nobody?

Mexico. We're gonna solve this immigration problem one or another...



:p

the sudan

if there is anyone left alive when the democratic president takes office in '09

Bomb the crap out of it, then attempt to occupy and get attacked by the millions of angry citizens?

I reckon they could do that.

If your still getting attacked you didn't kill enough.... :mp5:
look at Japan after WW2, they learned.

Serious question, no bleeding heart BS. Who will it be. USA has toured most of the world, crashing hostile regimes and propping up friendly ones (with varying success). We are all familiar with their latest target, Iraq, and need not go into the messy details thereof.

The question is, who, if anyone, is next?
In your opinion, who is lined up to be spanked on Uncle Sam's knee next? Who has the shadow of the bald eagle descending upon them? Who is going to beaten up red white and blue? Who is to donate their blood for the manufacure of more red striped flags? Who will greased the wheels of democracy with the fluids seeping from their mangled twisted corpses?

The task, give your opinion, and a fun and visually evocative metaphor.

Iran, ROK, China, Canada, Nobody?

:rolleyes:

It's pretty difficult to tell, although all the media hype against Iran, Venezuela, and Cuba is a good indicator. But I don't think there are plans to leave Iraq, so their probably won't be a full blown invasion in any case. Perhaps there shall be some bombing, and/or funding of groups that struggle against the current governments in power in those countries.

There's media hype about Venezuela and Cuba? I'd love to know what stations you're watching

#1 supporter? source?

2006 Country Reports on Terrorism. I mean, there's the question of whether you want to believe the U.S. State Department on this, but for once it's not as though CotW is just making things up.

There's media hype about Venezuela and Cuba? I'd love to know what stations you're watching

Whenever Venezuela and Cuba are brought up in any discussion here, they are looked at negatively, very few exceptions. While it's not the sort of thing that would lead to an invasion (like in Iraq), it is notable.

Also, I generally watch CNN for my daily servings of bias, then I try and cut through the lies and figure out what's really going on.

2006 Country Reports on Terrorism. I mean, there's the question of whether you want to believe the U.S. State Department on this, but for once it's not as though CotW is just making things up.

Thanks. Its believable, but I wanted to be sure.

When Alabama gets the bomb.
Who's next?

I'm ok with all those other places, but Alabama! sheesh then West Virginia will want one and who knows where it will end?

It'll be right back to the Blues-and-the-Greys again.
Again with those insipid flags and mottos and all the other fun stuff that comes with the Secessionist folk.
Well, not for very long, since patience seems to be in short supply there.

When you attend a funeral,
It is sad to think that sooner or
Later those you love will do the same for you.
And you may have thought it tragic,
Not to mention other adjec-
Tives, to think of all the weeping they will do.
But don't you worry.
No more ashes, no more sackcloth.
And an armband made of black cloth
Will some day never more adorn a sleeve.
For if the bomb that drops on you
Gets your friends and neighbors too,
There'll be nobody left behind to grieve.

And we will all go together when we go.
What a comforting fact that is to know.
Universal bereavement,
An inspiring achievement,
Yes, we all will go together when we go.

We will all go together when we go.
All suffuse with an incandescent glow.
No one will have the endurance
To collect on his insurance,
Lloyd's of London will be loaded when they go.

Oh we will all fry together when we fry.
We'll be french fried potatoes by and by.
There will be no more misery
When the world is our rotisserie,
Yes, we will all fry together when we fry.

Down by the old maelstrom,
There'll be a storm before the calm.

And we will all bake together when we bake.
There'll be nobody present at the wake.
With complete participation
In that grand incineration,
Nearly three billion hunks of well-done steak.

Oh we will all char together when we char.
And let there be no moaning of the bar.
Just sing out a Te Deum
When you see that I.C.B.M.,
And the party will be "come as you are."

Oh we will all burn together when we burn.
There'll be no need to stand and wait your turn.
When it's time for the fallout
And Saint Peter calls us all out,
We'll just drop our agendas and adjourn.

You will all go directly to your respective Valhallas.
Go directly, do not pass Go, do not collect two hundred dolla's.

And we will all go together when we go.
Ev'ry Hottenhot and ev'ry Eskimo.
When the air becomes uranious,
And we will all go simultaneous.
Yes we all will go together
When we all go together,
Yes we all will go together when we go.

Going by Democratic peace theory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Peace_Theory) We can safely eliminate Venezuela (no matter how much people call it a dictatorship, it's still a democracy. Chavez was democratically elected three times), and Iran sits tenuously on the border betwen democracy and dictatorship, so I can't say either way. North Korea is backed by China, so it would be a really bad idea, economically and militarily, to invade them. The world doesn't care about Somalia and its lack of cohesive government, so that's out of the question.

Really my money's on Sudan. The world is watching and waiting for some country to make the first move to end the genocide in Darfur, and doing so would be a great PR move.

Iran.

#1 supporter of Terrorism in the world is going to get it's ass handed to them either by Israel or the US when they get a nuke.

Didn't know Saudi Arabia was developing nuclear technology.

This (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frontlines:_Fuel_of_War) is what's gonna happen

Going by Democratic peace theory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Peace_Theory) We can safely eliminate Venezuela (no matter how much people call it a dictatorship, it's still a democracy. Chavez was democratically elected three times), and Iran sits tenuously on the border betwen democracy and dictatorship, so I can't say either way. North Korea is backed by China, so it would be a really bad idea, economically and militarily, to invade them. The world doesn't care about Somalia and its lack of cohesive government, so that's out of the question.

Really my money's on Sudan. The world is watching and waiting for some country to make the first move to end the genocide in Darfur, and doing so would be a great PR move.

"People want to be good, but not too good, and not all of the time."
-George Orwell

There's a very good reason as to why the rest of the world didn't do jack fucking shit when genocide occured in Cambodia, Uganda, Rwanda, or Nazi Germany, and why Sudan is just as fucked.

The quote sums up that reason quite nicely.

Why do you think Iran is trying to get a nuke?

Obvious intentions (Israel off the map, spread Islam whatever way, radicalism, and the support of terror groups who Iran is right in hand with) with several secret and underground nuclear sites attempting to produce WEAPONS GRADE uranium and plutonium, which is only good in nuclear weapons.

New Jersey *nods*

Obvious intentions (Israel off the map, spread Islam whatever way, radicalism, and the support of terror groups who Iran is right in hand with) with several secret and underground nuclear sites attempting to produce WEAPONS GRADE uranium and plutonium, which is only good in nuclear weapons.

You really think a nation with the brains to build a nuke would attack Israel, a country with nukes, and with many allies who have nukes?

How would them having nukes help spread Islam?

What does radicalism have to do with nukes?

Nobody gives nukes away.

Basically, the only real reason they would want nukes is so they don't get invaded!!!

You really think a nation with the brains to build a nuke would attack Israel, a country with nukes, and with many allies who have nukes?

How would them having nukes help spread Islam?

What does radicalism have to do with nukes?

Nobody gives nukes away.

Basically, the only real reason they would want nukes is so they don't get invaded!!!


Because Iran wants to spread Islam and cause another great Islamic revolution. The ayatollah have stated this thousands of times.

Because Terrorists being radicals want to inflict lots of damage, best of which is a nuke in a city.

Sure they do, US did so to the UK and France.

Personally I think that North Korea should be targeted next.The corrupt government over there is insane.Peopl everyday die because of starvation,violence of some sort,or disease.Not only that,but America has intelligence gained that North Korea is in the process of developing Anthrax disease.

Muslims should spread Islam the old fashioned way and just send out missionaries to different countries.I know this is a conservative statement,but to me it seems the safest and most civilized way to do it.

Because Iran wants to spread Islam and cause another great Islamic revolution. The ayatollah have stated this thousands of times.

Because Terrorists being radicals want to inflict lots of damage, best of which is a nuke in a city.

Sure they do, US did so to the UK and France.

That has nothing to do with nukes.

Well just so you know, most of these terrorists are probably reactionaries, not radicals. And no one is going to give them nukes.

While countries have given blueprints, information, parts, and other things necessary to build a nuclear weapon(to other countries), countries don't hand away nukes.

Really my money's on Sudan. The world is watching and waiting for some country to make the first move to end the genocide in Darfur, and doing so would be a great PR move.

Not bad, not bad.

Dear Leader will die sooner or later...and then we'll be getting involved somehow I'm sure.

Dear Leader will die sooner or later...and then we'll be getting involved somehow I'm sure.

Emphasis on much, MUCH sooner.
I figure it should be gnawing on a pretzel, trying to dodge some bramble, riding on a Segway, in Tblisi.
Can't miss that way.

Emphasis on much, MUCH sooner.
I figure it should be gnawing on a pretzel, trying to dodge some bramble, riding on a Segway, in Tblisi.
Can't miss that way.

Then Darth Cheney becomes president, and all is better :)

Then Darth Cheney becomes president, and all is better :)

I made a thread about that not too long ago, for what instances would circumvent Darth "Go Fuck Yourself" Cheney from taking the OBVIOUS part of the helm.

Just need to get Shrubya's arse scraped clean again of fundie and neocon deposits.

http://www.whereistheoutrage.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/darth_cheney.jpg

Because Iran wants to spread Islam and cause another great Islamic revolution. The ayatollah have stated this thousands of times.

Because Terrorists being radicals want to inflict lots of damage, best of which is a nuke in a city.

Sure they do, US did so to the UK and France.

And your basing your opinions of Iran's true intentions from political rhetoric? Never underestimate the power of old-fashioned pragmatism, the US cannot afford a war with Iran and Syria (plus others) and neither can the Iran bloc afford a war with the US.

I am hoping for Switzerland...they have been getting away with yodelling and cuckoo clocks for far too long.

I am hoping for Switzerland...they have been getting away with yodelling and cuckoo clocks for far too long.

Damn right!!!!!
*shakes fist*

The Principality of Sealand (http://www.sealandgov.org/). This is all we have troops for right now.

Emphasis on much, MUCH sooner.
I figure it should be gnawing on a pretzel, trying to dodge some bramble, riding on a Segway, in Tblisi.
Can't miss that way.

Then Darth Cheney becomes president, and all is better :)

What are you two on about?

I was refering to THIS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Jong-il) Dear Leader. :p

...and I was also serious. There'll be quite an intersting power struggle in NK when Jong-il dies, and I suspect we'll take the opportunity to at least do a little special ops and some airstrikes to try and make sure a favored candidate comes out on top.

Whether it actually works, however, is another matter altogether.

:mp5::sniper::gundge:Are we talking about a full-blown invasion, or unwanted meddling?

What are you two on about?

I was refering to THIS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Jong-il) Dear Leader. :p Oh. That "leader" ain't quite so "dear" to me.


...and I was also serious. Yeah, well who says i wasn't or that we weren't?
Haven't you been keeping up on "dear leader The Decider"?