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News channel competition a little too competitive? 4 dead.

Infinite Revolution
28-07-2007, 01:22
that was pretty dumb.


my thread now, mwahahahahahahahahaa!!
Groznyj
28-07-2007, 01:22
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6920156.stm


Deaths in US TV helicopter crash
Arizona map
Four people have died after their helicopters, owned by rival US television channels, collided in mid-air while covering a car chase.

Both helicopters went down in a park in central Phoenix, Arizona, and caught fire as they were covering the police pursuit of a pick-up truck.

It is thought that all those on board each aircraft were killed.

Within moments of the crash, other TV stations with helicopters began reporting news of the tragedy.

KNXV news reporter Craig Smith, who died in the collision, was reporting on a car chase in which the driver being pursued was hitting cars and driving on the pavement.

The driver was eventually forced to park his vehicle and he then carjacked another one.

Viewers did not witness the crash during the live coverage of the chase as pictures from the helicopters went pointed toward the ground.

Grandmother Mary Lewis, who saw the incident, said: "I looked up and I see this 'boom,' and I see one of the helicopters coming down, and I said 'Oh my God'."

Television station KNXV said it owned one of the helicopters while the other was operated by KTVK.

Um...damn.
Tokyo Rain
28-07-2007, 03:20
Wow. Are we so fixed on entertainment television that news channels will kill for a police chase?
JuNii
28-07-2007, 03:21
sad... I hope the falling helicopters didn't injure anyone else.

I wonder what the footage of those choppers would look like.

"the car makes a turn as police are right on his tai HOLY SHI[static]"
LancasterCounty
28-07-2007, 03:47
It is a shame and I do not believe that it was because of competition but pilot error for not watching where they were flying.

My thoughts and prayers go out to the victims families and may God enfold them into His ever loving arms.
Marrakech II
28-07-2007, 04:51
Apparently the phoenix area has the law that says if anyone dies due to your actions while committing a crime you can be charged. Police chief said that this guy being sought after by the police will most likely be charged with the 4 deaths in the choppers. Ouch....
Kroisistan
28-07-2007, 04:51
If we'd stop treating every little crime like it was earth-shatteringly important breaking news, shit like this wouldn't happen. (It's unfortunate they didn't have helicopters covering Natalie Hollaway's disappearance, or the Jean Bennet Ramsey case, for the record)

Crime in modern times has actually gone down. But you wouldn't know it by watching the news, because coverage of crime has increased dozens if not hundreds of times over.

Still, it's unfortunate people had to die. It always is.
LancasterCounty
28-07-2007, 05:00
Apparently the phoenix area has the law that says if anyone dies due to your actions while committing a crime you can be charged. Police chief said that this guy being sought after by the police will most likely be charged with the 4 deaths in the choppers. Ouch....

Ouch indeed and serves him right for running from the cops.
Lacadaemon
28-07-2007, 05:00
Apparently the phoenix area has the law that says if anyone dies due to your actions while committing a crime you can be charged. Police chief said that this guy being sought after by the police will most likely be charged with the 4 deaths in the choppers. Ouch....

I don't think that's going to flush.
Marrakech II
28-07-2007, 05:07
I don't think that's going to flush.

I don't think it can either however they may try as the police chief stated.

"I think he will be held responsible for any of the deaths from this tragedy," Harris said.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/07/27/helicopter.crash/index.html
Lacadaemon
28-07-2007, 05:08
I don't think it can either however they may try as the police chief stated.



http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/07/27/helicopter.crash/index.html

Yah. I'm sure he did. But police chiefs are notorious twunts.

I believe it when I see it.

I hope to see some good civil actions against the TV stations though.
LancasterCounty
28-07-2007, 05:14
I hope to see some good civil actions against the TV stations though.

Something like this? I do not know.
Urcea
28-07-2007, 05:16
http://www.saynotocrack.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/invisble_bike_crash.jpg

:(


But seriously, I was under the impression with modern technology this thing shouldn't really happen.
Lacadaemon
28-07-2007, 05:18
Something like this? I do not know.

Oh yah. You betcha. The passengers families. Respondeat superior and such.
The PeoplesFreedom
28-07-2007, 05:24
Wow. I live here and I know that they chase police chases all the time. Its all really said here in AZ right now, we knew those guys well, they reported for us, and they were good guys. A lot of people are very upset. It was competition, but friendly, or as friendly as it can be in the business. Everyone is shocked. Its unfair to whine about what story they were reporting about. It could have happened covering a fire or some other situation.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
28-07-2007, 05:30
Awesome.
Sure, that's a bit of an immature reaction, but it is the only one I can think of right now.
Just, awesome. Great. Cool.

And before someone tries to bring up the "loss of human life"-aspect, allow me to restate that the only casualties in this case were a few TV journalists.
Even Jesus or the Buddha would have to agree with my assessment once they'd been forced to watch just one 11'o clock local news show with career fuckhead David Prettyboy and his peppy side kick Karen McDyejob.
Thumbless Pete Crabbe
28-07-2007, 09:37
Oh yah. You betcha. The passengers families. Respondeat superior and such.

That's a given. They're probably already hammering out a settlement. :p

Shame about the crash.
Smunkeeville
28-07-2007, 13:50
Apparently the phoenix area has the law that says if anyone dies due to your actions while committing a crime you can be charged. Police chief said that this guy being sought after by the police will most likely be charged with the 4 deaths in the choppers. Ouch....

yep. when I lived in Tucson and it would flood during monsoon if your car got stuck and you had to be rescued, you had to pay the bill for all that. It was called the 'stupid driver law'. Arizona, the state of personal responsibility. ;)

it really sucks what happened though, people dying at work always sucks.
Thumbless Pete Crabbe
28-07-2007, 13:51
yep. when I lived in Tucson and it would flood during monsoon if your car got stuck and you had to be rescued, you had to pay the bill for all that. It was called the 'stupid driver law'. Arizona, the state of personal responsibility. ;)

it really sucks what happened though, people dying at work always sucks.

I knew a guy who used to tow people down there - that's all he did. :p Big business, apparently.
Dundee-Fienn
28-07-2007, 13:55
yep. when I lived in Tucson and it would flood during monsoon if your car got stuck and you had to be rescued, you had to pay the bill for all that. It was called the 'stupid driver law'. Arizona, the state of personal responsibility. ;)

it really sucks what happened though, people dying at work always sucks.

I had to be rescued from a similar situation but in my defence I only drove through the massive puddle for the splash entertainment value.
Smunkeeville
28-07-2007, 13:58
I knew a guy who used to tow people down there - that's all he did. :p Big business, apparently.

it's the winter people, they are idiots. Come November a group of ninnies descend on Tucson and they don't leave until February or March, it's horrible. I was a transplant and it even annoyed me.
Thumbless Pete Crabbe
28-07-2007, 14:05
We do not need you polluting this thread with your false religion and fictitious deity.

You were offended by *that*? Either you're joking or a bit cracked.

I'm tempted to say a prayer for you, and I don't even have religion. :p
South Lorenya
28-07-2007, 14:06
It is a shame and I do not believe that it was because of competition but pilot error for not watching where they were flying.

My thoughts and prayers go out to the victims families and may God enfold them into His ever loving arms.

We do not need you polluting this thread with your false religion and fictitious deity.
Dundee-Fienn
28-07-2007, 14:07
We do not need you polluting this thread with your false religion and fictitious deity.

:rolleyes:
Katganistan
28-07-2007, 15:43
We do not need you polluting this thread with your false religion and fictitious deity.

Grow up.
Johnny B Goode
28-07-2007, 15:48
Oy. I hate it when things like this happen.
Khadgar
28-07-2007, 16:24
Two vultures collided mid-flight?

Meh.
JuNii
28-07-2007, 17:51
WTF? our local news agency said that the driver that the police were pursuing was caught and that they are adding/seeking to add the helicopter crash and the 4 deaths to his charges...
JuNii
28-07-2007, 17:52
Two vultures collided mid-flight?

Meh.

sorry, they were news crews. not Paparazzi
Free Outer Eugenia
28-07-2007, 20:24
sorry, they were news crews. not PaparazziWhile this is becoming an increasingly moot distinction, the deaths of four human beings who were doing no more to contribute to human misery than most of us are is indeed tragic.
Occeandrive3
28-07-2007, 21:56
(helicopter TV crews) were doing no more to contribute to human misery than most of us...Have you ever seen "Cops" @ Fox TV network ?

Have you aver seen any of those Hi-speed chases captured by these Helicopter "entertainers" ?

They do make a living from Human misery.

Yes, every one of these "Journalist" deaths are as tragic as any Iraqi civilian killed.
But No, "most of us" do not contribute as much..
http://youtube.com/watch?v=QTVnpr2ZqZg&mode=related&search=
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vxmrvRHNn-A&mode=related&search=
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZZRKH1-o7xc
Kyronea
29-07-2007, 02:53
Awesome.
Sure, that's a bit of an immature reaction, but it is the only one I can think of right now.
Just, awesome. Great. Cool.

And before someone tries to bring up the "loss of human life"-aspect, allow me to restate that the only casualties in this case were a few TV journalists.
Even Jesus or the Buddha would have to agree with my assessment once they'd been forced to watch just one 11'o clock local news show with career fuckhead David Prettyboy and his peppy side kick Karen McDyejob.

Yes, because we all know that every human life has a different value and that television journalists are low on the scale. :rolleyes:

All human life is valued equally. Whether it's television journalists, Sudanese children, or Sunni insurgents, they all matter the same. They're sentient beings, and the loss of every one is a punch to the face of humanity.
Luporum
29-07-2007, 03:00
Do a barrell roll!

Sorry it had to be done. Both these pilots, or one of them, must have not been paying attention.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
29-07-2007, 03:03
Yes, because we all know that every human life has a different value and that television journalists are low on the scale. :rolleyes:
That's not at all what I said.
I quite agree that all human life is equally precious; I merely proposed that TV Journalists aren't human.
Luporum
29-07-2007, 03:08
That's not at all what I said.
I quite agree that all human life is equally precious; I merely proposed that TV Journalists aren't human.

Experienced journalists have been desensitized to all kinds of suffering, on such a scale that they no longer feel sympathy towards of people. You can tell the difference between a rookie reporter's take on a sad story, and that of a veteran. One is truly hurt by the tragedy, the other is a self indulgent robot.

It's an honest proposal. *nods*
Kyronea
29-07-2007, 03:30
That's not at all what I said.
I quite agree that all human life is equally precious; I merely proposed that TV Journalists aren't human.

Of course they're human, just like everyone else is. Just because you don't spend time with them, get to know them so you can see how they're human does not make them inhuman, anymore than a government declaring the enemy in a war as inhuman makes them inhuman.

By acting like they're inhuman, you just encourage the same damned cycle of idiocy.
Wilgrove
29-07-2007, 05:58
While this is becoming an increasingly moot distinction, the deaths of four human beings who were doing no more to contribute to human misery than most of us are is indeed tragic.

Oh please, tell me, how do you contribute to society? I'm sure that without the burgers, the fat ass that drive up to the drive through windows at Mc. Donald will never get fatter. Why don't you just sit down and shut up because there are not paparazzi, these are people who fly helicopters for a living, these are people who are trying to make a buck doing a job, and I'm sorry that you're so damn blind that you can't see that, but I forgot, you probably contribute more to humanity than they do.

Get off your fucking high horse! :mad:
The Pictish Revival
29-07-2007, 16:06
That's not at all what I said.
I quite agree that all human life is equally precious; I merely proposed that TV Journalists aren't human.

Well I'm a journalist (though not a TV one) and I reckon there's a good chance I'm a better person than you.

A very good chance, given that you seem to think needless deaths are a topic for humour.

Experienced journalists have been desensitized to all kinds of suffering, on such a scale that they no longer feel sympathy towards of people. You can tell the difference between a rookie reporter's take on a sad story, and that of a veteran. One is truly hurt by the tragedy, the other is a self indulgent robot.

Not exactly. In any job that brings you into contact with death and misery and general unpleasantness, you have to learn to control your emotional reactions while you are at work. That's not the same as it not affecting you.