NationStates Jolt Archive


Where are the "politics of hope"?

Remote Observer
26-07-2007, 21:43
In your imagination, Hillary dear. It's rather funny to see you complaining that somehow, politics are somehow largely reduced to namecalling and insults.

http://www.examiner.com/blogs/Yeas_and_Nays/2007/7/26/Hillary-On-The-ClintonObama-Name-Calling-This-Is-Getting-Silly

Why can't our presidential candidates stop calling each other names?

Senator Clinton taped an interview with CNN’s John King today (the interview will air later this afternoon on CNN) and she was asked to react to Barack Obama referring to her as “Bush-Cheney Lite.”

Here is what she said:

SEN. CLINTON: “Well, this is getting kind of silly. I’ve been called a lot of things in my life but I’ve never been called George Bush or Dick Cheney certainly. We have to ask what’s ever happened to the politics of hope?

I guess she's upset because the tenor of competition in the Democratic Primary is getting ugly.

I predict that it will get just as ugly between them as it will between Democrats and Republicans during the election.

Like newborn spiders or newborn praying mantis, politicians in primary elections eat each other in a fit of horrific cannibalism, until only one remains.

Surely she must know this. It is disingenuous to suggest otherwise.

Politics are this way because people don't watch news (or even read anything else) long enough to get more than half a sound bite as information.

When Obama calls her Bush, he's using shorthand. When she said Obama would be making a mistake by talking to certain leaders, she was using long sentences and talking about nations that most Americans can't name on a map.

Guess which one voters can understand and remember?
Lacadaemon
26-07-2007, 21:47
Like newborn spiders or newborn praying mantis, politicians in primary elections eat each other in a fit of horrific cannibalism, until only one remains.


If only that were literally true.
Remote Observer
26-07-2007, 21:51
If only that were literally true.

I would pay to watch the national political conventions for that sort of action.
Almighty America
26-07-2007, 22:00
Guess which one voters can understand and remember?

Naturally, Obama is winning in that area. He still has a long way to go, as these same voters may still favor Clinton over him. Let's not forget that some folks STILL equate Obama = Osama, and still others think If Bush = Bad, and Clinton = Good, and Bush II = Very Bad, therefore Clinton II = Very Good. Because of this divisive nonsense and much more, I would not be surprised if the Republicans somehow managed to steal '08.
Remote Observer
26-07-2007, 22:10
Naturally, Obama is winning in that area. He still has a long way to go, as these same voters may still favor Clinton over him. Let's not forget that some folks STILL equate Obama = Osama, and still others think If Bush = Bad, and Clinton = Good, and Bush II = Very Bad, therefore Clinton II = Very Good. Because of this divisive nonsense and much more, I would not be surprised if the Republicans somehow managed to steal '08.

The Republican will run as "I am not Bush, obviously". Oh, and "I'm taking the party back to its roots (i.e., back to Gingrich-style Republicans, which was popular, and away from neocon, which = Bush).

The Democrat will run as "I am not Bush".

Whichever party has the most horrific infighting before the election will lose.
Almighty America
26-07-2007, 22:17
Both parties will definitely experience a great deal of infighting, but the Republicans are still much more organized and cohesive than the Democrats, hence the Republicans will have a greater tolerance for internal bickering than the Democrats do. That is why I'm betting the Republicans will manage to seize yet another election.