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What's your favorite internet browser?

I've added a poll.

My pineal gland.

http://promote.opera.com/opera9/150x150opera9.gif (http://www.opera.com/products/desktop/)

me likey opera :)

I like FF, but SeaMonkey has my interest piqued.

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http://general.sc35.info/artlists/firefox_eats_ie.jpg

:p:D

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i used to like and use IE, but then i used Opera and i just prefer it a lot over IE now.

never got the fanboi-ish hysteria over FF. yeah Stumbleupon is great, but that's all i use it for. its not really that special.

i used to like and use IE, but then i used Opera and i just prefer it a lot over IE now.

never got the fanboi-ish hysteria over FF. yeah Stumbleupon is great, but that's all i use it for. its not really that special.

I used to use opera, but when I got my new laptop I installed firefox, since I could get the installation majigger off my PC and I haven't been bothered changing.

That poll better be multiple choice. Because polls are better that way.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v427/vonbek/love068.gif

I think I nicked this gif off of NSG....can't quite remember....but as it kicks ass I'm thinking fek it...

I always thought Internet Explorer was fine, but then I tried Firefox and have never switched back. The gap between the two is much narrower now that IE has tabbed browsing too, but I stick with FF now for familiarity as much as anything.

And the built in spell checker is one of those things that is so simple you wonder why no one thought of it before, but so brilliant you don't know what you'd do without it anymore. :p

I always thought Internet Explorer was fine, but then I tried Firefox and have never switched back. The gap between the two is much narrower now that IE has tabbed browsing too, but I stick with FF now for familiarity as much as anything.

And the built in spell checker is one of those things that is so simple you wonder why no one thought of it before, but so brilliant you don't know what you'd do without it anymore. :p
I agree

Also much better supported in non windows systems then opera

Edit: and I will post this like I do in every browser thread
http://www.youdontevenrealize.com/pictures/computers/linksgeneral.jpg

:eek:

But, :confused:, how?

firefox.

Edit: and I will post this like I do in every browser thread

Nifty. But I prefer mosaic ;)

As I am hardly a complex web-hacking evil guy, I just need something safe, secure, and easy to use.

Firefox fits the bill on all three accounts, making it my browser of choice.

I use Firefox.

Firefox, purely because I like one of the skins that you can get on it, and it just works.

i used to like and use IE, but then i used Opera and i just prefer it a lot over IE now.

never got the fanboi-ish hysteria over FF. yeah Stumbleupon is great, but that's all i use it for. its not really that special.

I use and love Firefox, but I must link this (http://www.xkcd.com/c198.html) :D

I use and love Firefox, but I must link this (http://www.xkcd.com/c198.html) :D
Firefox may be a good web browser, but it is hardly a Jewel of open source.

Firefox may be a good web browser, but it is hardly a Jewel of open source.

What is it, then, and what precisely does it take to qualify as a jewel of open-source?

Firefox.

^ZDaemon (www.zdaemon.org). But then again, that requires a non-open-source file to operate (a Doom .wad), so...I dunno, I don't know enough about open-source to tell you. But so far Firefox proves itself worthier than zDaemon if only for the fact that it works on the Mac, PC, and Linux at the same time and zDaemon decides it would be hilarious to work with everything but Mac OS X.
To answer the topic question: Safari. Firefox for the Mac is a bit clunkier interface-wise and generally not as visually appealing as Safari, but I still use it because it works with the things that Safari just refuses to have anything to do with.

Firefox

What is it, then, and what precisely does it take to qualify as a jewel of open-source?

An open source diamond. *nods*

Opera.

Firefox is the new IE. :P

An open source diamond. *nods*

...

I will shoot you.

And the built in spell checker is one of those things that is so simple you wonder why no one thought of it before

Plenty of people thought of it before and several open source browsers had spell checking long before Firefox. In fact, even Firefox had spell checking before Firefox had spell checking through a separate extension. There is nothing new to it, and especially nothing that Firefox introduced.

What's your favorite internet browser?

Maybe I'll add a poll later on. Based on the most popular browsers.

I've used Firefox for quite a while now, and I prefer it over IE.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euZ0j7vtKEQ

I haven't recently tried anything besides firefox or IE, and I vastly prefer firefox. The DOM inspector alone is worth it, let alone great extensions like greasemonkey, adblock plus, etc. I like a browser that you can make jump through hoops, rather than have it try to make you.

Firefox is just... THE best. by the way, whats Opera like?

What is it, then, and what precisely does it take to qualify as a jewel of open-source?
Various things. The developers are rude to bug submitters(click that webcomic's about page for an example), if you want to distribute Firefox (say with a Linux distribution) you have to get you patches approved by Mozilla or else you cannot call it Firefox or use the logo, the name and logo are propriety, it is quite bloated, etc.

^ZDaemon (www.zdaemon.org). But then again, that requires a non-open-source file to operate (a Doom .wad), so...I dunno, I don't know enough about open-source to tell you. But so far Firefox proves itself worthier than zDaemon if only for the fact that it works on the Mac, PC, and Linux at the same time and zDaemon decides it would be hilarious to work with everything but Mac OS X.
To answer the topic question: Safari. Firefox for the Mac is a bit clunkier interface-wise and generally not as visually appealing as Safari, but I still use it because it works with the things that Safari just refuses to have anything to do with.
Mac OS X can run Linux binaries. On the included cd/dvd/floppy there should be something called X11/X Server/X Windowing System (same shit, I just do not know which name Apple used). Install that, and you can begin installing your favorite Linux applications.

Anything other than FireFox, IE, and Opera(whatever that is).

Firefox is just... THE best. by the way, whats Opera like?Quite like the others just faster, lighter and safer - See it yourself: www.opera.com ;)

Though, what ever browser you're accustomed to using will (seem to) be the best there is unless you're willing to take that extra step and learn a new browser (basic functionality & look is pretty much the same across the board).

well I'm giving Opera a whirl right now, the widgets are pretty groovy (panic Button FTW!) as is the speed dial thingy but....

the interface is a bitch especially when you play about with it and such as is the fact that it doesn't seem faster or load up pages good and proper

all in all Opera may as well be Firefox with tetris in a window

Plenty of people thought of it before and several open source browsers had spell checking long before Firefox. In fact, even Firefox had spell checking before Firefox had spell checking through a separate extension. There is nothing new to it, and especially nothing that Firefox introduced.

I knew someone would say something along those lines even as I was typing.

I'm on a different computer right now because my wireless is shit, and this computer only has Firefox. I seriously hate that the browser clears all the information when you exit. I use IE7 on my laptop, and always use the URLs in the address bar, and the bookmark tab, so my routine is shot to hell with Firefox.

Sure, say IE is evil, but I'm use to it, and it doesn't suck for me.

I'm on a different computer right now because my wireless is shit, and this computer only has Firefox. I seriously hate that the browser clears all the information when you exit. I use IE7 on my laptop, and always use the URLs in the address bar, and the bookmark tab, so my routine is shot to hell with Firefox.

Sure, say IE is evil, but I'm use to it, and it doesn't suck for me.

Um I use the url's in the address bar too and firefox keeps them all for me no problem

You sure the machine is not set to clear all privacy information on close?

I seriously hate that the browser clears all the information when you exit.

You can just untick the box to clear private data on exit.

Hell if I know. This isn't my computer.


*squints eyes*

Where is that?

Tools > options > privacy> twards the bottom there is a "clear private data on close" box ... un check it

That is not the default so someone set firefox to clear

Um I use the url's in the address bar too and firefox keeps them all for me no problem

You sure the machine is not set to clear all privacy information on close?
Hell if I know. This isn't my computer.
You can just untick the box to clear private data on exit.

*squints eyes*

Where is that?

Hrm. It's unchecked already..

Thats interesting ... never had that problem before

Hrm. It's unchecked already..

You must have some sort of data munching monster living on your hard drive.

I suggest you call the Ghostbusters.

Tools > options > privacy> twards the bottom there is a "clear private data on close" box ... un check it

That is not the default so someone set firefox to clear

Hrm. It's unchecked already..

Thats interesting ... never had that problem before

*shrugs*

You must have some sort of data munching monster living on your hard drive.

I suggest you call the Ghostbusters.

Kill it kill it!

I use IE, albeit with a few anti-pop-up/spyware/virus programs installed. I'm too lazy to switch to something more secure, and Firefox isn't compatible with some of my work-related stuff.

I use IE, albeit with a few anti-pop-up/spyware/virus programs installed. I'm too lazy to switch to something more secure, and Firefox isn't compatible with some of my work-related stuff.

What sort of stuff? my only real compatibility issue is with some very proprietary MS stuff (Such as sharepoint 07) the rest of the stuff designed to be very ie-centric is usually just fine with ff (and IE Tab extension on rare occasion)

What sort of stuff? my only real compatibility issue is with some very proprietary MS stuff (Such as sharepoint 07) the rest of the stuff designed to be very ie-centric is usually just fine with ff (and IE Tab extension on rare occasion)

It's been a while since I've had it installed, so I don't really recall. Some media wouldn't run, even with the old plug-ins still current, though, and the bulletin board I read for my job info wouldn't run with Firefox, although there was a big "won't run with Firefox" warning on the bulletin board front page, so that might've been by design.

I use IE, albeit with a few anti-pop-up/spyware/virus programs installed. I'm too lazy to switch to something more secure, and Firefox isn't compatible with some of my work-related stuff.
i used to be the same, and still would use IE if i didn't just prefer the way Opera works. Avast antivirus is free, and i paid for AdAware on-access scanning program thingy, so security isn't too much of an issue with me. since i've been using those progams (for like... years), and put them on all the computers in this office, even though most here use IE we haven't had any malware, spyware, or viruses in years :)

well I'm giving Opera a whirl right now, the widgets are pretty groovy (panic Button FTW!) as is the speed dial thingy but....

the interface is a bitch especially when you play about with it and such as is the fact that it doesn't seem faster or load up pages good and proper

all in all Opera may as well be Firefox with tetris in a window
some pages don't load quite right, no. but that's very rare and usually just a browser incompatibility the webdesigner overlooked.

i like how customisable the interface is, being able to customise every litte thing, the sliding sidebar (on both sides), and i just prefer the way tabs work in Opera over FF or IE7. the speed dial also rules.

i barely use the widgets. FF extentions are way better, but Opera does the most important things (adblock, transfer monitoring, bittorrent, RSS reader, email, etc) built in.

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I'm on a different computer right now because my wireless is shit, and this computer only has Firefox. I seriously hate that the browser clears all the information when you exit. I use IE7 on my laptop, and always use the URLs in the address bar, and the bookmark tab, so my routine is shot to hell with Firefox.


check out Opera's speed dial, dude.

Firefox, the browser is solid, it pioneered features that are common place these days, I've been using it since 0.8something beta and I don't see a compelling reason to switch.

Plus it has the biggest third party plug in library as far as I know

IE: too popular and maintstream to call it secure. But easy to use and good broswer if you dont care about internet security.
Opera: Great software but sometimes too slow and difficult for regular user
FF: is between IE and Opera

IMHO!

i used to be the same, and still would use IE if i didn't just prefer the way Opera works. Avast antivirus is free, and i paid for AdAware on-access scanning program thingy, so security isn't too much of an issue with me. since i've been using those progams (for like... years), and put them on all the computers in this office, even though most here use IE we haven't had any malware, spyware, or viruses in years :)

That's cool. I have AdAware installed too, though just the regular freeware version. It seems to work well enough, or at least I hope it does. :p I might have to look into Opera, though - sounds kinda neat if it's free.

Konqueror! no contest!

Konqueror! no contest!It doesn't even allow bookmarklets for goodness sake.

IE: too popular and maintstream to call it secure. But easy to use
I assume you are talking about it before version 7.

I like FF, but SeaMonkey has my interest piqued.

:fluffle:

I <3 SeaMonkey.

When I'm on a Mac, Safari, when I'm on a Windows, Firefox, when I'm on Linux, I use Firefox and Opera.

:fluffle:

I <3 SeaMonkey.

I'm not sure if I want to switch just yet, simply for compatibility.

It doesn't even allow bookmarklets for goodness sake.

Could have fooled me
http://www.mandriva.ie/documentation/images/konqueror-web-bookmarks-management.png

Firefox for a graphical browser, w3m otherwise.

I use Internet Explorer, but I am wondering, which browser is the fastest? And, does this browser have any big negatives that would convince me to use a slower browser?

IE already had security negatives, and with version 7, it is 20x harder to use because for some reason, to fit stuff on there that fits with no problem on Firefox and (I assume) Opera, they felt they needed to cram all of their options and drop down menus into two buttons on the side of the screen and mix their bookmarks and history together in the same tab.

I knew someone would say something along those lines even as I was typing.

See, even while writing your bunk you knew it was bunk and that it would get debunked. I guess you now know how RO feels.

I've only used IE (the devil!) and Firefox. Got turned onto Firefox here actually .. after I posted about something being wrong and tons of windows kept popping up and couldn't stop them. I wish I could remember who it was or the few it was that pointed me to Mozilla Firefox because I am grateful. It was at least 2 years ago.

Internet Explorer :fluffle:

Ruffy.

Tools -> Options -> Privacy -> History

Tools -> Options -> Privacy -> Remember what I enter in forms and search bars

Just remember to undo it when you leave. The owner probably set it that way to hide the porn they look at.

Could have fooled me
http://www.mandriva.ie/documentation/images/konqueror-web-bookmarks-management.pngBookmarks != bookmarklets.

A bookmarklet would be a bookmark that executes a small script, like javascript:(function(){ var e,s; IB=1; function isDigit(c) { return (%220%22 <= c && c <= %229%22) } L = location.href; LL = L.length; for (e=LL-1; e>=0; --e) if (isDigit(L.charAt(e))) { for(s=e-1; s>=0; --s) if (!isDigit(L.charAt(s))) break; break; } ++s; if (e<0) return; oldNum = L.substring(s,e+1); newNum = %22%22 + (parseInt(oldNum,10) + IB); while (newNum.length < oldNum.length) newNum = %220%22 + newNum; location.href = L.substring(0,s) + newNum + L.slice(e+1); })();
Which in this example increments the last number in an url so you go to the next page. (i.e. e.g. www.some.site.com/1.html -> www.some.site.com/2.html )

Bookmarks != bookmarklets.

A bookmarklet would be a bookmark that executes a small script, like javascript:(function(){ var e,s; IB=1; function isDigit(c) { return (%220%22 <= c && c <= %229%22) } L = location.href; LL = L.length; for (e=LL-1; e>=0; --e) if (isDigit(L.charAt(e))) { for(s=e-1; s>=0; --s) if (!isDigit(L.charAt(s))) break; break; } ++s; if (e<0) return; oldNum = L.substring(s,e+1); newNum = %22%22 + (parseInt(oldNum,10) + IB); while (newNum.length < oldNum.length) newNum = %220%22 + newNum; location.href = L.substring(0,s) + newNum + L.slice(e+1); })();
Which in this example increments the last number in an url so you go to the next page. (i.e. e.g. www.some.site.com/1.html -> www.some.site.com/2.html )

Surely one can write a basic shellscript for that ? Which is both easier and less of a security risk.

Bookmarks != bookmarklets.

A bookmarklet would be a bookmark that executes a small script, like javascript:(function(){ var e,s; IB=1; function isDigit(c) { return (%220%22 <= c && c <= %229%22) } L = location.href; LL = L.length; for (e=LL-1; e>=0; --e) if (isDigit(L.charAt(e))) { for(s=e-1; s>=0; --s) if (!isDigit(L.charAt(s))) break; break; } ++s; if (e<0) return; oldNum = L.substring(s,e+1); newNum = %22%22 + (parseInt(oldNum,10) + IB); while (newNum.length < oldNum.length) newNum = %220%22 + newNum; location.href = L.substring(0,s) + newNum + L.slice(e+1); })();
Which in this example increments the last number in an url so you go to the next page. (i.e. e.g. www.some.site.com/1.html -> www.some.site.com/2.html )

For this specific purpose - of browsing to next page, like in Forum - Opera has FastForward function which works like forward button when 'in history' (ie. back button was used) but works like next likely page when pressed normally.

Though if you were to create HTML anchor link you could drag that piece of code into Opera interface (and/or bookmark list) and use it.

Telnet.

and here i quote a previous person

http://general.sc35.info/artlists/firefox_eats_ie.jpg

Surely one can write a basic shellscript for that ? Which is both easier and less of a security risk.You can have shellscripts as bookmarks in konqueror which have access to the page your viewing? I suppose that does open some possibilities. I can't say whether that would be easier, or why it would be more secure, though.
And I somehow doubt you can make full use of the DOM easily to change things on a page with a shellscript. The up/down bookmarklets are just a trivial examples, there's far more interesting things you can do. But I don't know how shellscripts interact with konqueror well enough to say if similar things can't be done there.

Is there also a greasemonkey-like extension for konqueror? (Which allows you to run userscripts automatically when loading a page; changing it in basically whatever way you desire)

What's your favorite internet browser?

Maybe I'll add a poll later on. Based on the most popular browsers.

Firefox.

FireFox. It's IE but with increased functionality, more stability, a sane update system, a myriad of easy to use extensions and it's open source. IMO it doesn't get better than that. Different, but not better.

Mac OS X can run Linux binaries. On the included cd/dvd/floppy there should be something called X11/X Server/X Windowing System (same shit, I just do not know which name Apple used). Install that, and you can begin installing your favorite Linux applications.

Apple uses X11.

For web browsers, I'm trying out Shiira right now. It's good-lookin' (:cool:), but I'm not going to stick with it. Too much of the window is caught up in the app's own interface, instead of actually showing the web page. :(

I've added a poll.

You forgot Opera. But that doesn't matter to me. I use Firefox.

never got the fanboi-ish hysteria over FF

:fluffle:

I use IE, albeit with a few anti-pop-up/spyware/virus programs installed. I'm too lazy to switch to something more secure, and Firefox isn't compatible with some of my work-related stuff.
The fastest browswer is Safari, but it's only in Beta for windows. Firefox is the second fastest most of the time.

The fastest browswer is Safari, but it's only in Beta for windows. Firefox is the second fastest most of the time.

What I just realized is that it's not Safari itself that's fast, it's Apple's Web Kit. So third party browsers (like Shiira) that use the Web Kit are just as fast as Safari… and can have icons with fish in them! WOW!

Mac OS X can run Linux binaries. On the included cd/dvd/floppy there should be something called X11/X Server/X Windowing System (same shit, I just do not know which name Apple used). Install that, and you can begin installing your favorite Linux applications.

:O?
I'll look into it. Thanks!

Firefox. I switched because of tabbed browsing and more security than Explorer, and I like the add ons. It does what I ask of it fine.

Firefox.

However, 2.0.0.5 on Linux seems to be awfully buggy recently. Lots of hang-ups, slow downs, and zombified children (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zombie_process) requiring intervention (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIGKILL).

Someone also please explain why firefox apparently requires nearly twice as much physical memory as a 3D accelerated window manager (http://www.beryl-project.org/). This seems especially strange.