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This may be old news, or a misrepresentation of facts, but if not it's pretty funny. :p

Ban political satire involving images of politicians at work? ;)

http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/index.cfm/fuseaction/viewItem/itemID/16541

(Angus Reid Global Monitor) - The vast majority of people in New Zealand are against a recent rule approved by lawmakers that bans using images captured inside Parliament to satirize, ridicule or denigrate lawmakers on broadcast and print media, according to a poll by TNS released by TV3. 71 per cent of respondents disapprove of this measure.

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In June, New Zealand’s House of Representatives voted to institute new media rules, which in effect ban the use of images in a way that satirizes, ridicules or denigrates lawmakers. Breaches of these measures can be treated as contempt of Parliament, a charge that can result in imprisonment.



Too much? Or should the media be forced to show a little respect? :p

Too much? Or should the media be forced to show a little respect? :p

No way! To question the way society works, and to expose that which can be exposed, are paramount obligations of all media.

In March 2005, speaker Margaret Wilson banned cameras from TV3 for seven days after the network showed associate education minister David Benson-Pope asleep during a parliamentary session.

I think that says it all.

They just can't take a joke.

I think that says it all.

Could be. :p

the media shouldn't be forced to show respect but should consider it. there are some things that just aren't important.

I'm in favor of whatever keeps politicians on their toes and respecting those who elected them. If that means that they're going to get caught napping on camera, so be it.

No way! To question the way society works, and to expose that which can be exposed, are paramount obligations of all media.

Ah, but vigilance and satire are two different things. I suppose you don't *need* to make fun in order to keep watch on the government. It makes for good entertainment, though. :p

Politicians are 100% in the public sphere when in parliament.

Furthermore, they use placards, graphs and hand-gestures to exploit the presence of cameras there, even when such use is ruled out of order by the speaker.

If they make the mistake of showing their knickers to the camera, let alone falling asleep in Parliament, they deserve everything they get.

One exception: if they have a medical emergency or some other involuntary incident (say intervention by a member of the public, a protestor say) they should be allowed to interdict that on the grounds of privacy.

Of course, sometimes politicians provide unintentional entertainment, for example NZ National MP John Carter:
"John is probably the only person in Parliament to have ever got away with (and it was an accident) accusing Labour of planning a cunning stunt, yet he mispronounced it in a way which was most unparliamentary. I’ve never seen the Speaker actually almost fall out of his chair in laughter before!"

No problem. If any new zealanders wish, I will gladly host pictures of your politicians with lots of silly captions that make lolcats look tame.

There's not a damn thing they can do about it. :)

What are they hiding? :)

Obscene behavior? :p

No problem. If any new zealanders wish, I will gladly host pictures of your politicians with lots of silly captions that make lolcats look tame.

There's not a damn thing they can do about it. :)

Aha. We'll see who gets the last laugh when there's a knock at your door and a big canoe docked at your front porch! :p

This may be old news, or a misrepresentation of facts, but if not it's pretty funny. :p

Ban political satire involving images of politicians at work? ;)

http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/index.cfm/fuseaction/viewItem/itemID/16541



Too much? Or should the media be forced to show a little respect? :p

Two words: fucking ridiculous.

All the major news broadcasters in New Zealand are already flouting the law, often intentionally. Even though both parties supported the law fully right through the select committee, National did a massive about turn on it after about a day and labour now want it 'revisited'. Basically, by drawing attention to it and trying to legislate, they've simply made it worse.

Law of unintended consequences-- Jon Stewart and/or Stephen Colbert will satarize this.:p

No problem. If any new zealanders wish, I will gladly host pictures of your politicians with lots of silly captions that make lolcats look tame.

There's not a damn thing they can do about it. :)

Oh yeah? OH YEAH?

Remember the Rainbow Warrior (http://www.police.govt.nz/operation/wharf/) ?
They could blow up a civilian vessel in one of their seaports, then blame the CIA !!

Not worried yet ?

What are the CIA gonna do to YOU, then ? When they hear it's all YOUR IDEA ?

I'll tell you what they're going to do. They're going to throw you in a pit of mud, with nothing but tacos to eat, and every day they're going to send a ferret in to tickle you until you giggle uncontrollably for mercy!

Are we worried yet ? Well ???

"It was a treacle well" - The Dormouse, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland.

I think this demands that a website outside NZ legal jurisdiction pop-up and plaster itself with such satirical images.

I'd imagine you'd start with captioning an unanimous vote "Right, next on the agenda - our annual pay review. All those in favour of paying ourselves ridiculous amounts say 'Aye'."

or

"In the most serious rebellion to face the PM yet, Parliament legislated that a even a bad Scotch is better than the best Irish whiskey."

"The PM was a firm believer in mind-body dualism, and now that physical satirical images of MPs at work had been banned, all that was left to be done was to find a way to detect the thoughtcrime."

Why do all the Commonwealth countries pass stupid laws?

That whole hemisphere is going to hell in the handbasket.

Why do all the Commonwealth countries pass stupid laws?

Not just the Commonwealth countries. Our federal govt here in the US passes a crap load of useless laws every year. Then, we have 50 states passing their own stupid laws, such as
. . . it will be illegal to sell a US flag in Minnesota unless it was made in America. But wait… the bill doesn’t limit itself to traditional cloth flags. As worded, every “item containing a representation of the American flag” and sold in the state must be American-made. . .

http://www.keacher.com/?p=375

Oh well, that is what we get, for re-electing the majority of those corrupt ass wipes.

Vic

That whole hemisphere is going to hell in the handbasket.

Just that one? I'd say both of them are :p

Oh yeah? OH YEAH?

Remember the Rainbow Warrior (http://www.police.govt.nz/operation/wharf/) ?
They could blow up a civilian vessel in one of their seaports, then blame the CIA !!

I thought that was the French.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow_Warrior
Besides, everyone knows Greenpeace are terrorists to begin with.

Apparantly you Kiwis don't quite have the same rights to free speech and freedom of the press as we have in America. A law like that wouldn't make it out of committee over here.

Law of unintended consequences-- Jon Stewart and/or Stephen Colbert will satarize this.:p

So did they? :p I didn't get a chance to tune in today. ;)

That whole hemisphere is going to hell in the handbasket.

Which, the Western one? You're probably right. ;)

What are the CIA gonna do to YOU, then ? When they hear it's all YOUR IDEA ?

I'll tell you what they're going to do. They're going to throw you in a pit of mud, with nothing but tacos to eat, and every day they're going to send a ferret in to tickle you until you giggle uncontrollably for mercy!


You promise? :)