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Well, I was browsing the web for inventors, do not why was browsing though, and I came along a relatively good site which disproves a large number of inventions claim by the more Afro-Centric groups that tend to disregard a number of earlier patents and inventions apparently.

Well, believe it or not he is the link:

http://www33.brinkster.com/iiiii/inventions/

So...?

So...?

So the blacks are liars, and must be punished.

So the blacks...must be punished.

...They weren't?

...They weren't?

Not enough.

Sorry, I can't bring myself to care which race has invented/discovered more things.

Sorry, I can't bring myself to care which race has invented/discovered more things.

Q to the F to the muthafuckin' T.

Sorry. For some reason, gangsta ebonic seemed somehow appropriate.

http://www.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/negro-frowns.jpg

Everyone knows the Irish invented everything and the Garden of Eden is Ireland.
*nods and sips whiskey*

1) Is any of this adequately sourced?

2) At best, this site uses misleading language to suggest that scientists and engineers who have made substantial improvements to make previous technologies practical on a wide scale out to be worthless frauds.

3) The site singles out black scientists and engineers for this abuse. Typical.

Clearly the jews are behind this. *nod*

Clearly the jews are behind this. *nod*
The black Jews, the worst of all evils :eek:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta_Israel

The black Jews, the worst of all evils :eek:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta_Israel

The Blews! :eek:

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q100/TheSteveslols/frown.jpg
Much better :)
Everyone knows the Irish invented everything and the Garden of Eden is Ireland.
*nods and sips whiskey*
DING DING DING, we have a winner!
The Blews! :eek:

Aren't the democrats always blue in graphics on TV and that? Are they in on it too? :eek:

Much better :)

DING DING DING, we have a winner!


Aren't the democrats always blue in graphics on TV and that? Are they in on it too? :eek:

Nobody leaves this place without singing the Blews. :(

Much better :)

DING DING DING, we have a winner!


Aren't the democrats always blue in graphics on TV and that? Are they in on it too? :eek:

The Liblews!:eek:

Nobody leaves this place without singing the Blews. :(

The Liblews!:eek:

Liberal black jewish jazz musicians.


We're basically fucked.

The black Jews, the worst of all evils :eek:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta_Israel

So you're saying Sammy Davis Junior and Whoopi Goldberg are 3b1l 1n©@rn@73?

Only if they are Gay Liberal Black Jewish Jazz Musicians!

Gliblews Musicians! :(

Liberal black jewish jazz musicians.


We're basically fucked.

Only if they are Gay Liberal Black Jewish Jazz Musicians!

I say, we must warn everyone of this conspiracy!

I say, we must warn everyone of this conspiracy!

We're too late Ucky. It's Gliblewician Town.

Corrected and pointing out more of the conspiracy...

:eek:

It all makes sense now!

I don my tinfoil hat!

We're too late Ucky. It's Gliblewiccan Town.

Corrected and pointing out more of the conspiracy...

I suspect that the only thing left to do is to run around in ever widening circles, waving our arms in the air and shrieking, "AIEEEE! AIEEEEE!".

I will begin. *does so*

I suspect that the only thing left to do is to run around in ever widening circles, waving our arms in the air and shrieking, "AIEEEE! AIEEEEE!".

I will begin. *does so*

Seconded.

AIEEEE! AIEEEEEEEEEEE!

I suspect that the only thing left to do is to run around in ever widening circles, waving our arms in the air and shrieking, "AIEEEE! AIEEEEE!".

I will begin. *does so*

*joins*

I must say, I like where this thread has gone.

*joins*

I must say, I like where this thread has gone.

Better than where it started. ;)

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b118/cre8sbeats/WhatYouTalkinBoutWillis.jpg

Better than where it started. ;)
Much.
Don't you see if we run around in circles then they have won! Why do you hate freedom?!

We're technically running in spirals.

Don't you see if we run around in circles then they have won! Why do you hate freedom?!

Much.


We're technically running in spirals.

I f we run in spiral we'll soon run out of an area to run. Then we'll have nowhere to run too. We're trapped I tell you man. Trapped!

You know...
Every race wants to claim they invented everything. Blacks also claim that Jesus was physically a black person just like them and that it was blacks who came up with Christianity or blacks who invented the airplane.
But they are not the only ones. The Mexicans are making the same claims, but for their race. LOL

The fact is that all the races have made important contributions to our society. Just because your race didn't come up with one of the world's major religions or create the first working airplane does not mean your race has not been making positive contributions toward the betterment of mankind.

Everybody has seeds to sow. (eh...I mean that in a inovative sense, not a sexual sense.) LOL

*snip*
Everybody has seeds to sow. (eh...I mean that in a inovative sense, not a sexual sense.) LOL

Funny, I was thinking you were making a veiled slavery/illegal immigrant farmhand comment there. I must be getting old if I missed a sexual innuendo.

I f we run in spiral we'll soon run out of an area to run. Then we'll have nowhere to run too. We're trapped I tell you man. Trapped!

Oh god, he's right.

Quick, what shape can we run in?!

Oh god, he's right.

Quick, what shape can we run in?!

Zigzags!

Funny, I was thinking you were making a veiled slavery/illegal immigrant farmhand comment there. I must be getting old if I missed a sexual innuendo.

LOL

What I can't figure out is why it seems that the whites and the blacks can't come to grips with the fact that Jesus was actually a Jew, ethnically speaking.

It's like they both keep trying to co op him.

Course, with Jesus being a Jew, it would logically follow that it was they who invented Christianity.

LOL

What I can't figure out is why it seems that the whites and the blacks can't come to grips with the fact that Jesus was actually a Jew, ethnically speaking.

It's like they both keep trying to co op him.

Course, with Jesus being a Jew, it would logically follow that it was they who invented Christianity.

No, GOD invented Christianity. In zigzags.

How can I get my time back for reading that link?

You read the link????

:eek:


Only God can help you my son. J/K LOL

How can I get my time back for reading that link?

Our justice system is punitive, not retributive. You won't get your time back, but the OP will have to spend a comparable amount of time in prison or doing community service.

How can I get my time back for reading that link?

Wait for someone to invent time travel? Of whatever ethnicity?

You read the link????

:eek:


Only God can help you my son. J/K LOL

Shall I wear my gimp costume? :p

Our justice system is punitive, not retributive. You won't get your time back, but the OP will have to spend a comparable amount of time in prison or doing community service.

Oh come on! Did the shrub make that change?

How about if I said "Pretty Please"

Wait for someone to invent time travel? Of whatever ethnicity?

Tsk. Tsk!

If you had read the link your question should be

"Wait for some white guy to invent time travel!"

You know...
Every race wants to claim they invented everything. Blacks also claim that Jesus was physically a black person just like them and that it was blacks who came up with Christianity or blacks who invented the airplane.
But they are not the only ones. The Mexicans are making the same claims, but for their race. LOL

The fact is that all the races have made important contributions to our society. Just because your race didn't come up with one of the world's major religions or create the first working airplane does not mean your race has not been making positive contributions toward the betterment of mankind.

Everybody has seeds to sow. (eh...I mean that in a inovative sense, not a sexual sense.) LOLYou are missing the historical context entirely. The dominant (i.e. white supremacist) line on this has historically been that the supposed superiority of the "white race" is proven by the "fact" that all of the "blessings of civilization" were created by white people. These fuckers went so far as to bleach the skins of certain mummies. I mean Jesus pig fucking christ! This is the ideology that lies at the root of all of the crimes of imperial Europe and it's various settler states.

It's very nice that you yourself are not a conscious racist, but you must realize that to end white supremacy as a dominant social force we must first acknowledge it as such. Unilaterally declaring a 'colorblind society' does not destroy institutional racism: it simply makes the subject taboo. And this shit thrives in the dark.

Is this the best the racist team can come up with anymore?

That's a relief.


Seriously now, you racist bastards (and I mean that in the nicest possible way)... take my advice: recruit a few people with some intelligence. Just for the PR department.

Oh, wait... well, too bad. Really. It's been fun.

LOL

What I can't figure out is why it seems that the whites and the blacks can't come to grips with the fact that Jesus was actually a Jew, ethnically speaking.

It's like they both keep trying to co op him.

Course, with Jesus being a Jew, it would logically follow that it was they who invented Christianity.

But Jews of that time were Israeli ie. black-grey-brown-whateveryouwanttocallit(Somebody told me that grey was a racist term. How?)

Duh, American Dad already covered this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we6XKvUkbeI

:D

You are missing the historical context entirely. The dominant (i.e. white supremacist) line on this has historically been that the supposed superiority of the "white race" is proven by the "fact" that all of the "blessings of civilization" were created by white people. These fuckers went so far as to bleach the skins of certain mummies. I mean Jesus pig fucking christ! This is the ideology that lies at the root of all of the crimes of imperial Europe and it's various settler states.

It's very nice that you yourself are not a conscious racist, but you must realize that to end white supremacy as a dominant social force we must first acknowledge it as such. Unilaterally declaring a 'colorblind society' does not destroy institutional racism: it simply makes the subject taboo. And this shit thrives in the dark.

The problem that promoting a bunch of half truths and urban legends in order to correct a bunch of other misconceptions is not the best way to address a problem like ethnicity in the US. Busting the "Black inventors" myths is no different than when I bust the myths spouted when someone comes along touting Japan as the perfect society.

You know...
Every race wants to claim they invented everything. Blacks also claim that Jesus was physically a black person just like them and that it was blacks who came up with Christianity or blacks who invented the airplane.
But they are not the only ones. The Mexicans are making the same claims, but for their race. LOL

Well, Jesus sure as hell wasn't white, nor a hyppie as is commonly portrayed by white folks. Infact, he was very dark skinned, probably close to a dark olive, as was a common skin tone to the region for several reasons.

http://www.randomimage.us/files/436e66cff0956.gif

The fact is that all the races have made important contributions to our society.

What important contribution have Australian Aborigines made to global society?

What important contribution have Australian Aborigines made to global society?
How about.... Whirimako Black? :) One of the better musicians out there. :)

What important contribution have Australian Aborigines made to global society?
The didgereedoo, of course. Providing an alternative to the bongo drum for hippies for decades...

The didgereedoo, of course. Providing an alternative to the bongo drum for hippies for decades...

Boomerang...

Weren't we just running about in circles and waving our arms? I suggest returning to that.

Speaking of copyright issues, Thomas Edison not only wasn't American, but didn't invent the lightbulb (or at least didn't do it first). This is fact. What I don't know though is whether or not it was the Italian guy or...some...other...guy. I don't remember names well.
As for panic... *drives through a prop fruit-stand in a junky ol' Ford Mustang and consequently off a cliff*

Busting the "Black inventors" myths is no different than when I bust the myths spouted when someone comes along touting Japan as the perfect society.
You mean Japan's NOT the perfect soceity? :eek:










;)
Edit: Wohoo! 7,000!

Eh. It's pretty rare that *anyone* invents anything entirely new - we all learn from our predecessors. To that effect, it's not practical to simply divide things up and say "blacks invented" this, or "whites invented these things," since most inventions are adapted from earlier designs.

That said, I was crushed to learn that G.W. Carver didn't really invent peanut butter. :(

Am I the only one who thought that this would be about black inventions in the sense of secretive, like the US army's evil mind control rays and the everlasting lightbulb?

Speaking of copyright issues, Thomas Edison not only wasn't American, but didn't invent the lightbulb (or at least didn't do it first). This is fact. What I don't know though is whether or not it was the Italian guy or...some...other...guy. I don't remember names well.
As for panic... *drives through a prop fruit-stand in a junky ol' Ford Mustang and consequently off a cliff*

I think Edison perfected (for its time) the filament used in most homes. His filament burnt dozens of times longer than previous ones. He didn't invent glass bulbs though, or vacuum tubes. Anyway, Edison was born in Ohio, so I think he counts as an American. :p

Speaking of copyright issues, Thomas Edison not only wasn't American, but didn't invent the lightbulb (or at least didn't do it first). This is fact. What I don't know though is whether or not it was the Italian guy or...some...other...guy. I don't remember names well.
As for panic... *drives through a prop fruit-stand in a junky ol' Ford Mustang and consequently off a cliff*

You almost had me going "WTF are you talking about" ;)

Oh, wait. I think I meant the guy that did the telephone for the invention stealing thing and not only not being Canadian (being actually scottish), but taking the invention from someone overseas.
I think I need to think this over. The Colbert Report is occupying most of my mental capacity and it's 2 in the morning over here in Ontario....I agree it sounds wacky, and that's because I haven't thought it out.
But the driving off a cliff thing still counts, for those who are panicking.

Oh, wait. I think I meant the guy that did the telephone for the invention stealing thing and not only not being Canadian (being actually scottish), but taking the invention from someone overseas.
I think I need to think this over. The Colbert Report is occupying most of my mental capacity and it's 2 in the morning over here in Ontario....I agree it sounds wacky, and that's because I haven't thought it out.
But the driving off a cliff thing still counts, for those who are panicking.

Yeah, that's Bell. Although he immigrated years before he invented the telephone and became a citizen eventually. Not sure whether he ripped off the telephone though, or whether someone just beat him to it (or whether he actually did invent it).

Yeah, that's Bell. Although he immigrated years before he invented the telephone and became a citizen eventually. Not sure whether he ripped off the telephone though, or whether someone just beat him to it (or whether he actually did invent it).

Found it - and not posting until morning after this:
In 1834, long before Bell applied for his own patent, the Italian inventor Antonio Meucci created the first working model of a telephone in Italy, and in 1849 he tested electric transmission of the human voice in Cuba. The next year, 1850, Meucci demonstrated his electric telephone in New York. By 1871, Meucci had paid for a patent caveat for his telephone, and in the summer of 1872, asked Edward B. Grant (vice president of American District Telegraph Co. of New York) for permission to test his telephone apparatus on the company's telegraph lines, providing Grant with a working prototype, a full written description of the invention, and copy of his caveat. By 1874, Meucci still could not raise the $250 for a full patent, having only enough money to renew his caveat while looking for further funding. After waiting two years without receiving an answer, Meucci asked Grant for his documents and prototype, but Grant claimed they were lost. That same year, Meucci's caveat expired because and he lacked the money to renew it. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Graham_Bell#Competitors)

Legal disputes follow Bell's "invention" a few years later. He lost. However, hope is not lost, as a conspiracy is uncovered:
"In their agreement, Bell had agreed to pay them 20 percent of the profits from commercialization of "his invention" for a period of 17 years. As a result, Grant conveniently "lost" all trace of Meucci's working prototype and documentation, contracting with Bell shortly thereafter."

And the happy ending:
"Due to the efforts of Italian American Congressman Vito Fossella, Resolution 269 the U.S. House of Representatives on 11 June 2002 finally recognized the work previously done by Antonio Meucci, granting him posthumous recognition as the true inventor of the telephone."

Also, Wikipedia states that Bell was born in Scotland. Also, as stated in the biography:
In 1870, at age 23, he and his parents immigrated to Canada, where they settled at Brantford, Ontario.

I've made my rambling worth your while(s). Sorry for not doing so earlier.

Am I the only one who thought that this would be about black inventions in the sense of secretive, like the US army's evil mind control rays and the everlasting lightbulb?

Eh. Can't say I did. :p

Also, Wikipedia states that Bell was born in Scotland. Also, as stated in the biography:
In 1870, at age 23, he and his parents immigrated to Canada, where they settled at Brantford, Ontario.

I've made my rambling worth your while(s). Sorry for not doing so earlier.

No problem. Interesting stuff. :)

Anyway, I knew he was an immigrant - I just meant that he had come south before hitting the big time. Lots of immigrants were pouring in around that time. As for his fame as the telephone inventor, it doesn't look like he was the first to invent it, though I still recall his having worked on it long before he supposedly defrauded the Italian. While the Italian was the original inventor, no doubt, it's possible they were developing it concurrently - the schools still teach about Bell, after all. I'm sure he wasn't a complete crook. :p

No, GOD invented Christianity. In zigzags.

So.... It made Judaism in spirals?

Well, I was browsing the web for inventors, do not why was browsing though, and I came along a relatively good site which disproves a large number of inventions claim by the more Afro-Centric groups that tend to disregard a number of earlier patents and inventions apparently.

Well, believe it or not he is the link:

http://www33.brinkster.com/iiiii/inventions/

Are you ever going to come back and tell us why we should care?

Are you ever going to come back and tell us why we should care?

Nah, cause than he'd have to admit some form of bias against African thinkers & inventors.

What important contribution have Australian Aborigines made to global society?

You mean besides art, music, local history and archaeology and saving the asses of those who came to settle by showing them how to deal with everything from the climate to the wildlife?

Am I the only one who thought that this would be about black inventions in the sense of secretive, like the US army's evil mind control rays and the everlasting lightbulb?

Yes. You're grounded.

Found it - and not posting until morning after this:
In 1834, long before Bell applied for his own patent, the Italian inventor Antonio Meucci created the first working model of a telephone in Italy, and in 1849 he tested electric transmission of the human voice in Cuba. The next year, 1850, Meucci demonstrated his electric telephone in New York. By 1871, Meucci had paid for a patent caveat for his telephone, and in the summer of 1872, asked Edward B. Grant (vice president of American District Telegraph Co. of New York) for permission to test his telephone apparatus on the company's telegraph lines, providing Grant with a working prototype, a full written description of the invention, and copy of his caveat. By 1874, Meucci still could not raise the $250 for a full patent, having only enough money to renew his caveat while looking for further funding. After waiting two years without receiving an answer, Meucci asked Grant for his documents and prototype, but Grant claimed they were lost. That same year, Meucci's caveat expired because and he lacked the money to renew it. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Graham_Bell#Competitors)

Legal disputes follow Bell's "invention" a few years later. He lost. However, hope is not lost, as a conspiracy is uncovered:
"In their agreement, Bell had agreed to pay them 20 percent of the profits from commercialization of "his invention" for a period of 17 years. As a result, Grant conveniently "lost" all trace of Meucci's working prototype and documentation, contracting with Bell shortly thereafter."

And the happy ending:
"Due to the efforts of Italian American Congressman Vito Fossella, Resolution 269 the U.S. House of Representatives on 11 June 2002 finally recognized the work previously done by Antonio Meucci, granting him posthumous recognition as the true inventor of the telephone."

Also, Wikipedia states that Bell was born in Scotland. Also, as stated in the biography:
In 1870, at age 23, he and his parents immigrated to Canada, where they settled at Brantford, Ontario.

I've made my rambling worth your while(s). Sorry for not doing so earlier.

I learned something today. I learned that none of that stuff really matters because all of Meucci's and Bell's heirs and assigns are either dead or on to other things.

So.... It made Judaism in spirals?

Nope. Magen Davids.

The black Jews, the worst of all evils :eek:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta_Israel

...and I thought that Beta Israel was just the pre-release version of Israel. *runs away*

You are missing the historical context entirely. The dominant (i.e. white supremacist) line on this has historically been that the supposed superiority of the "white race" is proven by the "fact" that all of the "blessings of civilization" were created by white people. These fuckers went so far as to bleach the skins of certain mummies. I mean Jesus pig fucking christ! This is the ideology that lies at the root of all of the crimes of imperial Europe and it's various settler states.

No, actually, this ideology is just a byproduct of the need of every single imperialistic country - created to JUSTIFY a posteriori imperialism and, basically, robbery. Show me a single country that doesn't have guys who claim "my country pwns every other country".
When a country builds its own imperium, of course, this becomes the official (government and economy) justification of imperialism: "we're taking civilisation to these mishap people", "we're doing it for their own good", "it is our right and duty to do so because we're civilised", "anyway they weren't using their resources so well as we could do in their stead", etc etc... to downright "we're the master race", "we are the true followers of God" and "they hate us".

...to end white supremacy as a dominant social force ...(etc)
So, you're saying basically (correct me if I'm wrong) that you want to fight "white" racistical claims with "black" (or whatever other colour) racistical claims. I can see the ratio behind it, but I don't think it will work: it will merely fuel racial tensions.

Btw, "white" racistical shit is quite complex. Example, the telephone: WASPs used to dislike that such a revolutionary design was invented by a poor Italian Catholic immigrant - Italians, while "white", have historically been object of racial discrimination by many european and american "white" groups, just like many Italians were quite racist towards african (both black-skinned and arabic) people, or against other Europeans and Italians.
"Generically white" suprematism looks more like a strictly US thing to me: the "white" German Nazis would never consider the "white" Slavs (and they're even more aryan-looking than Germans usually) as part of their "race", or somewhat "equals".

I think Edison perfected (for its time) the filament used in most homes. His filament burnt dozens of times longer than previous ones. He didn't invent glass bulbs though, or vacuum tubes. Anyway, Edison was born in Ohio, so I think he counts as an American. :p

Mr.Sulu: "I thought it was Thomas Edison."
Mr.Checov: "No, no: the lightbulb vas a Russian inwention".

Eh.

So the blacks are liars, and must be punished.

No, it's more like our government is full of liars... oh wait...