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Can anyone answer my signature?

Chuck Norris needs a new pair of cowboy boots.

It's undefined. Or madness, even blasphemy!

Can anyone answer my signature?

Not this one again?

Nowt happens.

Chuck Norris needs a new pair of cowboy boots.

Ummm... is that supposed to answer the question?

Not this one again?

Nowt happens.

Somebody's asked this before?

The Unstoppable Force goes through it.

Yes. *nods*

Okay...

Ummm... is that supposed to answer the question?

Yes. *nods*

They get busy. :)

They both get turned into statues before it happens: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teumessian_fox

It's undefined. Or madness, even blasphemy!

The universe explodes?

They both get turned into statues before it happens: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teumessian_fox

But then the Unstoppable Force would be stopped. Impossible.

It's different than that tale because there is nothing saying the fox couldn't stop moving.

The Unstoppable Force goes through it.

Damn beaten to it

Somebody's asked this before?

Oohhh yes.

Oohhh yes.

Really? How long ago?

But then the Unstoppable Force would be stopped. Impossible.
I guess that depends on how you define stopped and unstoppable force.

Somebody's asked this before?

Ohh yes!

The Unstoppable Force goes through it.

Or around it.

The unstoppable force bounces off the immovable object. It stays in constant motion throughout the sequence.

Really? How long ago?

Sorry double thing happen there. The last time a few months back, before that a few months before, and before that a few months before!

I guess that depends on how you define stopped and unstoppable force.

Let's say the Unstoppable Force is a cylinder that never stops and the Immovable Object is a cube that never moves.

Or around it.
But then it wouldn't hit it would it.

It slides on the side like when you set your character to auto run into a wall in a video game - unstoppable force vs immovable object.

Let's say the Unstoppable Force is a cylinder that never stops and the Immovable Object is a cube that never moves.

That really doesn't answer the question..

Sorry double thing happen there. The last time a few months back, before that a few months before, and before that a few months before!

ROFL

That really doesn't answer the question..

Never stops moving, that is.

I think the real question here is what happens when you take a car made out of the hardest metal known to man (diamond), and crash it into a wall made of diamonds?

I think the real question here is what happens when you take a car made out of the hardest metal known to man (diamond), and crash it into a wall made of diamonds?

Not really. If the car is hitting the diamond with enough force the diamond will shatter.

I think the real question here is what happens when you take a car made out of the hardest metal known to man (diamond), and crash it into a wall made of diamonds?

You get a lot of diamonds, and I make my wife happy then she has ever been in her life!

Huh?
I thought everyone knew diamond was a metal. Made of Tungsten and Francium.

Never stops moving, that is.
But something can still be moving without moving. See "auto run" vs "wall"

I think the real question here is what happens when you take a car made out of the hardest metal known to man (diamond), and crash it into a wall made of diamonds?

Huh?

I think the real question here is what happens when you take a car made out of the hardest metal known to man (diamond), and crash it into a wall made of diamonds?

You get SPAAARRRTAAAA!

But something can still be moving without moving. See "auto run" vs "wall"

It's a cylinder.

BLARG! (http://wikichan.org/images/b/ba/Hardestmetal.jpg)
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I'm telling you, they get busy.

They do the Nasty.

They get their freak on.

They do the horizontal bop.

They boink. :)

That was a conversation stopper...

It's a cylinder.
And games are made out of polygons, what's your point.

And games are made out of polygons, what's your point.

My point is the game's object has legs that move even though he's not going anywhere. Whereas if a cylinder runs into a wall, it just stops. Period.

The Immovable Object gets pissed and hits the Unstoppable Force back. They beat the crap out of each other before Gravity calls the cops and everyone scatters.

The Immovable Object gets pissed and hits the Unstoppable Force back. They beat the crap out of each other before Gravity calls the cops and everyone scatters.

LOL

But then the Immovable Object moves. (when he beats up Unstoppable Force)

My point is the game's object has legs that move even though he's not going anywhere. Whereas if a cylinder runs into a wall, it just stops. Period.

If a cylinder hit a wall, it stops, then moves backward.

Opposite equal reaction pushing it back moves it a little on the backswing, if you will.

My point is the game's object has legs that move even though he's not going anywhere. Whereas if a cylinder runs into a wall, it just stops. Period.
You realize I am talking about a video game right? The legs arn't there. There are no legs, they are just eye candy to make it look more realistic.

LOL

But then the Immovable Object moves. (when he beats up Unstoppable Force)

*sigh* so you're really gonna hold out for the real answer then?

If a cylinder hit a wall, it stops, then moves backward.

Opposite equal reaction pushing it back moves it a little on the backswing, if you will.

But doesn't it stop as soon as it hits the Immovable Object? Even for a split second?

It's undefined. Or madness, even blasphemy!

Madness? THIS. IS. PARADOX!

*Kicks Vetalia in a pit*

*sigh* so you're really gonna hold out for the real answer then?

Yes.

The Immovable Object gets pissed and hits the Unstoppable Force back. They beat the crap out of each other before Gravity calls the cops and everyone scatters.

This post is made of win.

Yes.

It's a logical trick. An unstoppable force cannot be stopped, an imoveable object cannot be moved, so for an unstopable force to hit an imoveable object means that either the force is stopable, or the object is moveable.

You realize I am talking about a video game right? The legs arn't there. There are no legs, they are just eye candy to make it look more realistic.

I was referring to the sprite moving. And with that said, the object doesn't move then, does it? It tries, but it fails.

I was referring to the sprite moving. And with that said, the object doesn't move then, does it? It tries, but it fails.
But it is moving, it just isn't getting anywhere.

It's a logical trick. An unstoppable force cannot be stopped, an imoveable object cannot be moved, so for an unstopable force to hit an imoveable object means that either the force is stopable, or the object is moveable.

Now that's an answer.

It's a logical trick. An unstoppable force cannot be stopped, an imoveable object cannot be moved, so for an unstopable force to hit an imoveable object means that either the force is stopable, or the object is moveable.
But is the Immovable Object breakable, or slanted, or does it matter which way the Unstoppable Force moves.

But it is moving, it just isn't getting anywhere.

No, it's not moving. If it's not getting anywhere, it's not moving. If it were in real life, then yes, it would be moving. But it's not.

BLARG! (http://wikichan.org/images/b/ba/Hardestmetal.jpg)
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Wikichan? WIKICHAN?!

What the hell is that, some unholy love child of WIkipedia and 4chan?!

But is the Immovable Object breakable, or slanted, or does it matter which way the Unstoppable Force moves.

It doesn't matter what way it moves, as long as it moves. If the Immovable Object were broken, it's peices (it) would be moves, therefore making it impossible. And the Immovable Object is a perfect cube.

The unstoppable force doesn't get stopped. But the immovable object doesn't get moved, because there is no contradiction. Just because a force is "unstoppable" doesn't mean it is particularly strong, merely that it has a quality of not being "stoppable." So, it hits the immovable object, which in turn carries the unstoppable force through it and out the other side, much like this:

http://lpc1.clpccd.cc.ca.us/lpc/harpell/lpcphys/p10lec3/p10lec3b/ball3.jpeg

The immovable object is the ball that doesn't wind up moving.

The unstoppable force carries the balls on both sides that do move.

End of story.

I like that answer. There's no need for the cylindrical terminology in that.

It's a logical trick. An unstoppable force cannot be stopped, an imoveable object cannot be moved, so for an unstopable force to hit an imoveable object means that either the force is stopable, or the object is moveable.

The unstoppable force doesn't get stopped. But the immovable object doesn't get moved, because there is no contradiction. Just because a force is "unstoppable" doesn't mean it is particularly strong, merely that it has a quality of not being "stoppable." So, it hits the immovable object, which in turn carries the unstoppable force through it and out the other side, much like this:

http://lpc1.clpccd.cc.ca.us/lpc/harpell/lpcphys/p10lec3/p10lec3b/ball3.jpeg

The immovable object is the ball that doesn't wind up moving.

The unstoppable force carries the balls on both sides that do move.

End of story.

Yes.
There is no "real" answer. Nobody knows what would happen when an immovable object met an unstoppable force. Because we have no evidence that either of those things could exist outside people's imagination.
This post is made of win.

I do what I can.

There is no "real" answer. Nobody knows what would happen when an immovable object met an unstoppable force. Because we have no evidence that either of those things could exist outside people's imagination.


I do what I can.

But assuming it can, what would the answer be?

Excellent point. Force is not an object and therefore can go through the Immovable Object.

The unstoppable force doesn't get stopped. But the immovable object doesn't get moved, because there is no contradiction. Just because a force is "unstoppable" doesn't mean it is particularly strong, merely that it has a quality of not being "stoppable." So, it hits the immovable object, which in turn carries the unstoppable force through it and out the other side, much like this:

http://lpc1.clpccd.cc.ca.us/lpc/harpell/lpcphys/p10lec3/p10lec3b/ball3.jpeg

The immovable object is the ball that doesn't wind up moving.

The unstoppable force carries the balls on both sides that do move.

End of story.

Not quite true though, physics says that air friction will stop the balls, so the force is not unstopable.

Not quite true though, physics says that air friction will stop the balls, so the force is not unstopable.
Technicality.

Well, I'm smelly and need to take a shower.

And I agree with Greater Trostia's answer.

Excellent point. Force is not an object and therefore can go through the Immovable Object.

Nope but force cannot be seem unless it acts on an object.

Not quite true though, physics says that air friction will stop the balls, so the force is not unstopable.

Let's say it's floating around in space.

But assuming it can, what would the answer be?

No way to know. But the idea of nothing happening seems likely.

Let's say it's floating around in space.

Friction from the balls would still stop them eventually...

Right?

Friction from the balls would still stop them eventually...

Right?

Eventually, but it's just an analogy. At least I think it was just an analogy.

Oh, not this shit again.

Not quite true though, physics says that air friction will stop the balls, so the force is not unstopable.

Force is eternal, though, it just gets translated into different manifestations. You, me, the tree, the rock, everywhere, yes!

They boink. :)

I'd prefer to bonk than to boink...

I thought everyone knew diamond was a metal. Made of Tungsten and Francium.

LOL

Hooray for metalloids/non-metals!

I'd prefer to bonk than to boink...

Then you're doing it wrong. :)

I'm back. It hasn't gotten much further, I see.

Can anyone answer my signature?

It punches through it or goes around it. The force does not stop and the object does not move.

Alternatively.. the force bounces off and continues at the same speed in another direction. The force, therefore, is not stopped, and the immoveable object is not penetrated.

Yeah, it went on for a while last time this was asked.

It goes through it.

Hogan bodyslams Andre the Giant and wins with a 3 count....

It punches through it or goes around it. The force does not stop and the object does not move.

Alternatively.. the force bounces off and continues at the same speed in another direction. The force, therefore, is not stopped, and the immoveable object is not penetrated.

If it punches through, the Immovable Object is moved. If the Unstoppable Force bounces off, then once it hits the Immovable Object it's already stopped. Even for a split second, it's still stopped.

I believe the force goes through it. Although my friend thinks the universe would simply explode or cease to exist.

The immovable object is immovable because it's intangible, so the force can't act on it, so nothing happens[/randomguess]

Mr. T pities them both.

Thats how the big bang happened

The immovable object is immovable because it's intangible, so the force can't act on it, so nothing happens[/randomguess]

Good one.

Wouldn't the unstoppable force violate the first law of thermodynamics? Wait, so would the immovable object. Hmm.
The unstoppable force creates energy, and the immovable object destroys it, so might they just cancel each other out? /logic

Wouldn't the unstoppable force violate the first law of thermodynamics? Wait, so would the immovable object. Hmm.
The unstoppable force creates energy, and the immovable object destroys it, so might they just cancel each other out? /logic

If they canceled each other out, then the Unstoppable Force would be stopped. And I guess you could say the Immovable object would be moved... from existence. /logic

If they canceled each other out, then the Unstoppable Force would be stopped. And I guess you could say the Immovable object would be moved... from existence. /logic

Neither would stop or move. They would simply cease to exist.

So would this all boil down to the Immovable Object and the Unstoppable Force not being able to exist?

... Or maybe the universe would have some sort of overload and implode or something like that.

So would this all boil down to the Immovable Object and the Unstoppable Force not being able to exist?

... Or maybe the universe would have some sort of overload and implode or something like that.

Nah, it has a manual reset switch.

Neither would stop or move. They would simply cease to exist.

By the Unstoppable Force ceasing to exist, it would be stopped. Not stopped moving but still stopped.

By the Unstoppable Force ceasing to exist, it would be stopped. Not stopped moving but still stopped.

I don't think that the idea of forces applies to things that don't exist. It's like saying that the non-existant furry pink elephant flying around my room has a velocity of 0m/s, because it doesn't exist.

It rips a hole in the fabric of space time, sucking everyone in this thread and the thread itself into a universe where it cannot exist but exists in a quantum state, thus ensuring that the thread will never again be brought back.

Nah, it has a manual reset switch.

Which is imploding.

...Hmmm... God exits Google Earth?

It rips a hole in the fabric of space time, sucking everyone in this thread and the thread itself into a universe where it cannot exist but exists in a quantum state, thus ensuring that the thread will never again be brought back.

Is the thread dead, or alive? :eek:

It rips a hole in the fabric of space time, sucking everyone in this thread and the thread itself into a universe where it cannot exist but exists in a quantum state, thus ensuring that the thread will never again be brought back.

Black Hole? Or should I say, Black Hold.

Which is imploding.

The manual reset switch is located outside the universe, obviously. :p

Is the thread dead, or alive? :eek:

Literally? No, it was never alive, so it can't die or be dead.

Practically? Dunno.

The manual reset switch is located outside the universe, obviously. :p

What does that have to do with implosion?

Doesn't everyone just love these sort of posts? They're so fun and interesting.

Can anyone answer my signature?
It causes a singularity in the universe. Very bad juju...

So does everyone agree in the implosion and/or manual reset switch theory?

Alt-F4. Try it; it solves most internet problems I've come across.

What does that have to do with implosion?

The switch doesn't implode along with the universe, because it is located outside of it.

Cosmic, man! :D

Alt-F4. Try it; it solves most internet problems I've come across.

Well, I wouldn't consider it a problem, but more like... an interesting question that needs an answer.

The switch doesn't implode along with the universe, because it is located outside of it.

Cosmic, man! :D

:D I was thinking of the universe itself, not the switch. Oh well.

Well, I wouldn't consider it a problem, but more like... an interesting question that needs an answer.

Define need. I for one am perfectly content to maintain my sanity by not knowing the answer to such a question.

:D I was thinking of the universe itself, not the switch. Oh well.

Oh. I win the minor mis-interpretation award.

Define need. I for one am perfectly content to maintain my sanity by not knowing the answer to such a question.

Hmm... I guess you have a point.

It causes a singularity in the universe. Very bad juju...

What sort of singularity? :D

I don't think that the idea of forces applies to things that don't exist. It's like saying that the non-existant furry pink elephant flying around my room has a velocity of 0m/s, because it doesn't exist.

I didn't notice this one earlier. But, that's not what I'm saying. It stops existing, that's how it stops. So either way, it stops.

What happens when the Unstoppable Force hits the Immovable Object?

Most likely the Immovable Object will get all quiet and the Unstoppable Force will storm out of the house. While the Unstoppable Force is gone, the Immovable Object will create more justifications for the Unstoppable Force's violent behavior. She will also no doubt continue to enable him in his alcoholism.

In you ask me, the Immovable Object should just leave the Unstoppable Force and get a restraining order against him:(

Most likely the Immovable Object will get all quiet and the Unstoppable Force will storm out of the house. While the Unstoppable Force is gone, the Immovable Object will create more justifications for the Unstoppable Force's violent behavior. She will also no doubt continue to enable him in his alcoholism.

In you ask me, the Immovable Object should just leave the Unstoppable Force and get a restraining order against him:(

That made me crack up.

Can anyone answer my signature?

The Universe instantly ceases to exist.

the unstoppable object ramps up the immovable object sending it into the air and over fifteen, flaming semi-trailers, Evel Knievel style.

The Universe instantly ceases to exist.

Manual reset switch.

Can anyone answer my signature?

Dunno. Ask The Juggernaut and The Blob.

Dunno. Ask The Juggernaut and The Blob.

Who're they?

Who're they?

X-Men villians

I think the real question here is what happens when you take a car made out of the hardest metal known to man (diamond), and crash it into a wall made of diamonds?

A diamond is not metal.
And diamond, while being the HARDEST substance, is also one of the most brittle. Ask the hundreds of women who've hit their engagement ring just right.

NOTHING STOPS DA BLOif either the unstoppable force or the unmovable object come to exist, then the universe would have never existed in the first place. Both defy the laws of physics.

A diamond is not metal.
And diamond, while being the HARDEST substance, is also one of the most brittle. Ask the hundreds of women who've hit their engagement ring just right.

Yeah, I believe it's called 'Textile' Strength, no pliability.

NOTHING STOPS DA BLOif either the unstoppable force or the unmovable object come to exist, then the universe would have never existed in the first place. Both defy the laws of physics.

We came to the conclusion that if they came into existence, the universe would start manual reset and the universe would implode. Thereby giving the universe debugging time.

X-Men villians

The Blob can increase his body's density until he is virtually immovable. This may allow him to actually increase his personal gravitational pull, as he apparently did when he escaped jail to join the second Brotherhood. He is also quite strong, and lately has been learning to actually control his mass, which allows him to mentally direct parts of his blubber. He can use this ability to absorb impacts and to stretch his reach. In addition, he is nearly impervious to harm and appears to be able to resist extreme heat as well.

Juggernaut traditionally possessed vast power of mystical origin. He had tremendous strength, almost total resistance to physical injury; a nearly impenetrable force field that he could summon at will, unlimited stamina, and alleged immunity to molecular manipulation attacks. Due to the mystical energies flowing through his body, he did not need to eat, breathe or drink. As an exemplar, he may have possessed additional mystic powers. Finally, while moving he was, essentially, unstoppable, except in the most extreme cases such as when Thor united his godly power with his magical hammer and fired a concentrated beam at Juggernaut, rendering him unable to move ahead again until the ground collapsed underneath their feet.

;)

Interesting.

We came to the conclusion that if they came into existence, the universe would start manual reset and the universe would implode. Thereby giving the universe debugging time.
Manual reset? Wouldn't that be automatic reset? Or at least a complete stop, akin to a bluescreen or kernel panic or whatever Linux does when it screws up, allowing God or I dunno, whatever people think controls the universe to flip said manual switch?

Manual reset? Wouldn't that be automatic reset? Or at least a complete stop, akin to a bluescreen or kernel panic or whatever Linux does when it screws up?

Nah, the universe has to go through the thinking process and flip the switch. So it manually resets.

So if the universe ever comes to you for help, saying how he's come across an Unstoppable Force and Immovable Object, don't refer him to this thread, otherwise we'd all... poof.

Hm. I understand.

Hm. I understand.

That's assuming that the universe can think... otherwise it's probably an automatic reset.

Hmmm... I should go. Perhaps tomorrow I'll post something else like this. Perhaps not. But don't worry, I'll find/think of something else to entertain myself with soon.

Hmmm... I should go. Perhaps tomorrow I'll post something else like this. Perhaps not. But don't worry, I'll find/think of something else to entertain myself with soon.

Ooo I can hardly contain myself.

Ooo I can hardly contain myself.

I can tell. :D

That's assuming that the universe can think... otherwise it's probably an automatic reset.

I was looking for a way to say this.

We came to the conclusion that if they came into existence, the universe would start manual reset and the universe would implode. Thereby giving the universe debugging time.

I was thinking more that the universe would implode (blow a fuse?), and would have to be manually reset from outside.

Thus the God theory. Or at least alien theory.

Thus the God theory. Or at least alien theory.

No, I'm pretty sure that gods or aliens would have to exist in this universe. So I guess the manual reset would be pretty useless.

nature is the immovable object. capitalism is the unstopable force (of destructiveness). all bets are off. but i'm keeping my eyes open.

for as long as life remains possible.

which i don't see how it will be without nature to keep making and renewing the air that we breathe.

i think at some point it is very likely we're all gonna starve, or die of horrible diseases, as a direct natural resault of our own statistical consensus of short sightedness.

by all, i mean the odds are greater then not for everyone living at the time.

not that the entire species will be wiped out at once or anything of the sort.

just a majority of those living at the time.

down to a much small total human population then we have seen for a number of centuries.

for those who emerge out the other side this will be a very good thing

and of course the tragidy is itself entierly avoidable.

and it's not as if we absolutely have to give up the idea of money entirely.

or any thing else.

just stop using combustion to generate energy and propell transportation, and do something 'univerasal' and unbiased, to lower all human fertility.

if we would and do those three simple things, all the impending suffering could be entirely avoided. if we don't it won't be.

we can keep lying to ourselves in our castles of currency untill the 'day' comes, but that won't stop it from comming or make it go away.

and neither will wars, whatever excuses we come up with for fighting them.

=^^=
.../\...

The force would pass through the object like light through a window. The light passes through the window without moving it.

The only solution is for mankind to be annihilated. Also, offtopic on your behalf.
At least first.

The force would pass through the object like light through a window. The light passes through the window without moving it.

But not all the light passes through, does it? Some is reflected.

When the unstoppable force meets the immovable object, one or both of your definitions turns out to be wrong.

Since it is conceivable that such a "meeting" could take place, given the two things you define as "unstoppable" and "immovable" ... at least one definition is wrong already.

I suppose to be poetic about it, the unstoppable force could be the passage of time, the immovable object the entire physical universe. Then the answer would be: "existence."

Is the thread dead, or alive? :eek:

It is neither alive nor dead. It is in a quantum state of being, a state that cannot be observed. However, as part of the quantum flux, we can observe the multiple possible states of the thread. The problem is that the fact that the thread has ripped a fabric in space time. Anyone who observes the event is sucked into it, entering a quantum state. Thus the event cannot be observed, and the waveform does not collapse. It's an ever growing possibles universe. Eventually, it will consume all of NSG.

Fortunately, someone is bound to notice the anomaly on Jolt servers, causing an indirect observation and collapsing the waveform. Our quantum states should then switch to a fixed state then. I hope. If there are mass deaths or disappearances of NSGers after it collapses, we'll know I was wrong.

I suppose to be poetic about it, the unstoppable force could be the passage of time, the immovable object the entire physical universe. Then the answer would be: "existence."
Hm. Applause.
And as for the God/alien (Galien?) theory, what I mean is that they would have to be from (or at the time, existing in) a different dimension/alternate universe.
I mean, how else do you fall back from the suggestion that God lives in the sky and the Devil lives under us? :p
It is neither alive nor dead. It is in a quantum state of being, a state that cannot be observed. However, as part of the quantum flux, we can observe the multiple possible states of the thread. The problem is that the fact that the thread has ripped a fabric in space time. Anyone who observes the event is sucked into it, entering a quantum state. Thus the event cannot be observed, and the waveform does not collapse. It's an ever growing possibles universe. Eventually, it will consume all of NSG.

Fortunately, someone is bound to notice the anomaly on Jolt servers, causing an indirect observation and collapsing the waveform. Our quantum states should then switch to a fixed state then. I hope. If there are mass deaths or disappearances of NSGers after it collapses, we'll know I was wrong.
Apologies for me being a moron, but would a fixed state be a good or bad thing?

Apologies for me being a moron, but would a fixed state be a good or bad thing?

Two sides of the coin. But since there are so many possible states, it's not even 50/50 odds. I mean, once the waveform collapses, you could be anywhere from healthy and living to crippled and mutilated to being dead.

Maybe in some cosmic chance of infinitesimal odds, you might come out as a Cthulu lookalike.

If the unstoppable force is a cylinder and the immovable object is a cube then it's quite possible that the cube could just go through the unstoppable force (since, it could be hollow); however, the question isn't when they meet, it's when they hit. So, it depends what the unstoppable force is. If it is something along the lines of radiation then it wouldn't have trouble passing through the object. This can be explained with the Pauli exclusion principle - it's Quantum Mechanics. Basically, it states that no two identical fermions may occupy the same quantum state simultaneously. A more rigorous statement of this principle is that, for two identical fermions, the total wave function is anti-symmetric. For electrons in a single atom, it states that no two electrons can have the same four quantum numbers, that is, if n, l, and ml are the same, ms must be different such that the electrons have opposite spins.

The exchange of particles in the system of two identical particles (which is mathematically equivalent to the rotation of each particle by 180 degrees) results either in the change of the sign of wave function of the system (when the particles have half-integer spin) or not (when the particles have integer spin). Thus, no two identical particles of half integer spin can be at the same quantum place - because the wave function of such system must be equal to its opposite - and the only wave function which satisfies this condition is the zero wave function.

Particles with antisymmetric wave functions are called fermions—and obey the Pauli exclusion principle. Apart from the familiar electron, proton and neutron, these include neutrinos and quarks (from which protons and neutrons are made), as well as some atoms like helium-3. All fermions possess "half-integer spin", meaning that they possess an intrinsic angular momentum whose value is \hbar = h/2\pi (Planck's constant divided by 2π) times a half-integer (1/2, 3/2, 5/2, etc.). In the theory of quantum mechanics, fermions are described by "antisymmetric states."

Particles with integer spin have a symmetric wave function and are called bosons; in contrast to fermions, they may share the same quantum states. Examples of bosons include the photon and the W and Z bosons.

Win?

If the unstoppable force is a cylinder and the immovable object is a cube then it's quite possible that the cube could just go through the unstoppable force (since, it could be hollow); however, the question isn't when they meet, it's when they hit. So, it depends what the unstoppable force is. If it is something along the lines of radiation then it wouldn't have trouble passing through the object. This can be explained with the Pauli exclusion principle - it's Quantum Mechanics. Basically, it states that no two identical fermions may occupy the same quantum state simultaneously. A more rigorous statement of this principle is that, for two identical fermions, the total wave function is anti-symmetric. For electrons in a single atom, it states that no two electrons can have the same four quantum numbers, that is, if n, l, and ml are the same, ms must be different such that the electrons have opposite spins.

The exchange of particles in the system of two identical particles (which is mathematically equivalent to the rotation of each particle by 180 degrees) results either in the change of the sign of wave function of the system (when the particles have half-integer spin) or not (when the particles have integer spin). Thus, no two identical particles of half integer spin can be at the same quantum place - because the wave function of such system must be equal to its opposite - and the only wave function which satisfies this condition is the zero wave function.

Particles with antisymmetric wave functions are called fermions—and obey the Pauli exclusion principle. Apart from the familiar electron, proton and neutron, these include neutrinos and quarks (from which protons and neutrons are made), as well as some atoms like helium-3. All fermions possess "half-integer spin", meaning that they possess an intrinsic angular momentum whose value is \hbar = h/2\pi (Planck's constant divided by 2π) times a half-integer (1/2, 3/2, 5/2, etc.). In the theory of quantum mechanics, fermions are described by "antisymmetric states."

Particles with integer spin have a symmetric wave function and are called bosons; in contrast to fermions, they may share the same quantum states. Examples of bosons include the photon and the W and Z bosons.

Win?

Uhhh... dunno, you kinda lost me... somewhere half-way between the first paragraph. :confused:

Is it anything like having Juggernaut punch the Blob?:headbang:<<<He's not stopping, and that wall's not moving.:cool:)

Is it anything like having Juggernaut punch the Blob?:headbang:<<<He's not stopping, and that wall's not moving.:cool:)

But as soon as he hit's the wall, he's stopped.

I mean, how else do you fall back from the suggestion that God lives in the sky and the Devil lives under us? :p

Well something has to be keeping us rooted to the Earth and preventing us from reaching the heavens :rolleyes: .

The force would pass through the object like light through a window. The light passes through the window without moving it.

It does move. Just not visibly. And on that note, everything in the universe is moving. The immovable object must be at 0K

Well, if you take it to be an indestructible cube with infinite momentum striking a similar indestructible cube with infinite static μ, then you would just have an endless transfer of energy between the two bodies, as the one with infinite momentum will pour an infinite energy supply into a body capable of absorbing an infinite amount of energy.

If anyone actually cares... It was explained in technical terms in my last post. :x

If anyone actually cares... It was explained in technical terms in my last post. :x

Yep.

The paradox should be understood as an exercise in logic, not as the postulation of a possible reality. According to modern scientific understanding, there are not and indeed cannot be either unstoppable forces or immovable objects. An immovable object would have to have infinite inertia and therefore infinite mass. Such an object would collapse under its own gravity and create a singularity. An unstoppable force would imply an infinite energy, which by Albert Einstein's equation E = mc2 is equivalent to an infinite mass. Note that, in the modern view, a cannonball which cannot be deflected and a wall which cannot be knocked down are both types of the same (impossible) object: an object with infinite inertia.

From Wikipedia. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irresistible_force_paradox)

Somewhere I read an article by Isaac Asimov which discussed this issue. I'll try to sum it up.

An irresistable force is defined as a force which no object can resist. Therefore, if an irresistable force exists, then there can be no such thing as an immovable object.
An immovable object is defined as an object which no force can move. Therefore, if an immovable object exists, then there can be no such thing as an irresistable force.

Therefore, what happens when the two meet? Answer: they don't. They cannot coexist in the same universe.

Neither exist.

Somewhere I read an article by Isaac Asimov which discussed this issue. I'll try to sum it up.

An irresistable force is defined as a force which no object can resist. Therefore, if an irresistable force exists, then there can be no such thing as an immovable object.
An immovable object is defined as an object which no force can move. Therefore, if an immovable object exists, then there can be no such thing as an irresistable force.

Therefore, what happens when the two meet? Answer: they don't. They cannot coexist in the same universe.

They can't exist by themselves either. If you read what I posted last.