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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/07/17/ngalloway417.xml

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601102&sid=aWzS_GBuInh4&refer=uk

Now lets get a few things straight here. Galloway has been investigated by the Fraud Squad, the Metropolitan Police and the Charities Commission (twice) over these allegations and not a single charge or allegation of wrongdoing has ever been brought forward. Yet now, a group of MPs have decided he has brought Parliament into disrepute - how, by being investigated and found to be innocent?

This decision is entirely political, made by pro war MPs (several of them members of the "Labour Friends of Isreal" group) against the only truly anti-war MP in Parliament.

Found innocent by the police and the charities commission, and by the courts in the case of his libel action against the Daily Telegraph. Just remember that before commenting.

Unless he's found guilty of a crime, only the electorate of Bethnal Green and Bow should be able to deprive him of his seat in Parliament.

You don't think that dressing in a red lycra suit and purring like a cat on national television is enough for him to have brought parliament into disrepute?

You don't think that dressing in a red lycra suit and purring like a cat on national television is enough for him to have brought parliament into disrepute?
That's for his constituents to decide, not a committee of other MPs.

You don't think that dressing in a red lycra suit and purring like a cat on national television is enough for him to have brought parliament into disrepute?

Enough to bring Parliament into disrepute? No, it would take a hell of alot more than that considering what some of the idiots there get away with.

Enough to make him look a twat and make his supporters cringe in embaressment? Oh yes.....

You don't think that dressing in a red lycra suit and purring like a cat on national television is enough for him to have brought parliament into disrepute?

I could name about a dozen MP's who have done worse to "bring the Parliament into disrepute".

This is utterly unacceptable. George Galloway is a good MP with more ideals, scruples and intelligence than many Tory and Labour members.

I could name about a dozen MP's who have done worse to "bring the Parliament into disrepute".

This is utterly unacceptable. George Galloway is a good MP with more ideals, scruples and intelligence than many Tory and Labour members.

Go on then.

I'll bet most of them have been censured in some way when it came out too.

I could name about a dozen MP's who have done worse to "bring the Parliament into disrepute".

This is utterly unacceptable. George Galloway is a good MP with more ideals, scruples and intelligence than many Tory and Labour members.

*farts loudly and wetly*

Go on then.

I'll bet most of them have been censured in some way when it came out too.

I said I could name them. But in order to give you the true nitty gritty, I'd need to do some research. Which I really don't have the time to do. Maybe I'll post a thread about it soonish.

*farts loudly and wetly*

Hey RO, maybe you ought to get that colon fixed.

*snip trolling*
A threadjacking we will go.. a threadjacking we will go...

*farts loudly and wetly*
Fuck off.



Oh and this is completely ridiculous. He's committed no crimes whatsoever and has been the victim of a ruthless smear campaign which is a bit sickening.

Although I did meet him once and he was a bit of a wanker, to be fair.

Although I did meet him once and he was a bit of a wanker, to be fair.

That's my point.

That's my point.
Not really a reason to kick him out of parliament. My local MP is possibly the most gigantic imbecile in the world, but hey, he's only human.

Not really a reason to kick him out of parliament. My local MP is possibly the most gigantic imbecile in the world, but hey, he's only human.

Well, if you ask me, most politicians need a few days in the stocks, where we can all throw rotten vegetables at them. Then send them back to work.

The Cat Incidet: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ButQKpZ3uzg

But let's not kid ourselves into thinking he's only a fool--he's also a bully and an arrogant bastard.

The Cat Incidet: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ButQKpZ3uzg

But let's not kid ourselves into thinking he's only a fool--he's also a bully and an arrogant bastard.

Arrogant he may be, but thats generally a prerequisite of being a politician of any stripe. Be nice if you could prove the bully part BTW

Hes still a twat, so even if it's under false pretences, I say goor riddance!

You tell em, mate - nice to see a straight-talking, no-nonsense MP speaking his mind, and a refreshing change from the usual shower of useless, politically-correct do-gooders.

You tell em, mate - nice to see a straight-talking, no-nonsense MP speaking his mind, and a refreshing change from the usual shower of useless, politically-correct do-gooders.

Interesting derogatory term to use.

I much prefer politicians who try to do good

A few things;

Galloway has not been suspended from Parliament. A Committee (the House of Commons Standards and Privileges Committee) has, on the basis of a report from the Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards, recommended he be suspended from Parliament, MPs still have to vote on it.

The Commissioner notes, quite specifically, that "I have not found evidence during my inquiry that Mr Galloway has, directly and personally, unlawfully received moneys derived from the former Iraqi regime, either via the Oil for Food Programme or by some other means."

It is also to be noted that;
a) Galloway has been exonerated by the Courts, and
b) Galloway has been exonerated by the Charities Commission, who acknowledged that while some funds from Oil for Food were given to the Miriam Appeal, Galloway cannot be shown to have been aware of them, whether he should have been or not.

So, please, can we stop this ridiculousness about him benefiting from Oil for Food?

He's being suspended because, according to the Committee's report, Galloway didn't register money he did receive in the Register of Member's Interests.

I could name about a dozen MP's who have done worse to "bring the Parliament into disrepute".

This is utterly unacceptable. George Galloway is a good MP with more ideals, scruples and intelligence than many Tory and Labour members.

Ha. Despite being elected to represent the good constitutents of Bethnal Green and Bow, Galloway has persistently failed to turn up and represent them in the Commons. At the end of 2005, he was ranked 634 out of 645 members in terms of activity. So much for scruples - if anything, Galloway has shown nothing but contempt for his constitutents and for Parliament with his shoddy record of inactivity.

You don't think that dressing in a red lycra suit and purring like a cat on national television is enough for him to have brought parliament into disrepute?

As opposed to the paragons of morality the rest of parliament are?

Odious as Galloway is, I see little reason to suspend him from parliament.

A few things;

Galloway has not been suspended from Parliament. A Committee (the House of Commons Standards and Privileges Committee) has, on the basis of a report from the Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards, recommended he be suspended from Parliament, MPs still have to vote on it.

The Commissioner notes, quite specifically, that "I have not found evidence during my inquiry that Mr Galloway has, directly and personally, unlawfully received moneys derived from the former Iraqi regime, either via the Oil for Food Programme or by some other means."

It is also to be noted that;
a) Galloway has been exonerated by the Courts, and
b) Galloway has been exonerated by the Charities Commission, who acknowledged that while some funds from Oil for Food were given to the Miriam Appeal, Galloway cannot be shown to have been aware of them, whether he should have been or not.

So, please, can we stop this ridiculousness about him benefiting from Oil for Food?

He's being suspended because, according to the Committee's report, Galloway didn't register money he did receive in the Register of Member's Interests.

It isn't even for very long. I'm not from the UK, but this sounds like the political equivalent of a parking ticket.

Hes still a twat, so even if it's under false pretences, I say goor riddance!

Personally I find this guy to be more of a twat.

http://www.firstfoot.com/News/images/borisyawns.JPG

Personally I find this guy to be more of a twat.

http://www.firstfoot.com/News/images/borisyawns.JPG

That guy is the only person I actually trust in British politics.

It isn't even for very long. I'm not from the UK, but this sounds like the political equivalent of a parking ticket.

More or less. He's trying to play it as an attack on him for being anti-war, and while that may be the motivation of some of the members of the committee, it certainly isn't the reason suspension's been recommended.

That guy is the only person I actually trust in British politics.

You trust Boris?! Bonking Boris!? He's funny and good for a laugh when he's appeared on HIGNFY, but he's a liar and a cad of the highest order!

That guy is the only person I actually trust in British politics.

You trust a man who randomly insults people based on which region they live in and repeatedly cheats on his wife whilst a member of a party espousing "family values"?

You trust a man who randomly insults people based on which region they live in and repeatedly cheats on his wife whilst a member of a party espousing "family values"?

He generally opens his mouth and says whatever happens to be in his head which means that for once you have a politician who actually says what he is thinking rather than only ever hearing carefully constructed answers to questions that never get to the point.

Whether you like what he is saying is another point entirely.

He generally opens his mouth and says whatever happens to be in his head which means that for once you have a politician who actually says what he is thinking rather than only ever hearing carefully constructed answers to questions that never get to the point.

Whether you like what he is saying is another point entirely.

Its not a matter of whether I like what he is saying. It is a matter of hypocrisy, representing a party supposedly standing for family values and repeatedly committing adultery.

Its not a matter of whether I like what he is saying. It is a matter of hypocrisy, representing a party supposedly standing for family values and repeatedly committing adultery.

Has he ever said that he is standing on a platform of family values?

Its not a matter of whether I like what he is saying. It is a matter of hypocrisy, representing a party supposedly standing for family values and repeatedly committing adultery.

... and lieing about said adultery too.

Has he ever said that he is standing on a platform of family values?

As a member of the Tory Party he stands for their policies and values, otherwise he wouldn't be a member.

The man is a brazen liar and a cheat, and not worthy of holding office.

Hes still a twat, so even if it's under false pretences, I say goor riddance!
Regardless, only a court of law or his electorate should have the ability to be rid of an MP - not MPs in Parliament.

Has he ever said that he is standing on a platform of family values?

He is a member of the Conservative Party, who state repeatedly that they stand on a platform of family values, so by extension yes he is supposed to stand on said platform, whether he has publically said so or not.

Regardless, only a court of law or his electorate should have the ability to be rid of an MP - not MPs in Parliament.

The aren't getting rid of him, they're suspending him.

He is a member of the Conservative Party, who state repeatedly that they stand on a platform of family values, so by extension yes he is supposed to stand on said platform, whether he has publically said so or not.

Ah, so every member of every party believes exactly what the central leadership has dictated to be the party line on every issue?

Ah, so every member of every party believes exactly what the central leadership has dictated to be the party line on every issue?

I take it you are not British or you would understand this.

I'm sad to say that you are, in essence, correct. Every party member is expected to publicly support the policies of said party, especially those members who are also MPs - or at least support the party on the big issues. If they don't support their party they leave or are thrown out - hence Galloway is no longer a Labour Party member.

The aren't getting rid of him, they're suspending him.
I know, but it's just as wrong regardless of how long it's for, in my book.

Personally I find this guy to be more of a twat.

http://www.firstfoot.com/News/images/borisyawns.JPG
He's running as a candidate to become the new Mayor of London, you know.

"Sir, some of our buses have been set on fire by evil terrorists"
"Great, whatever, piss off, I'm eating a giant pie"

Ah, so every member of every party believes exactly what the central leadership has dictated to be the party line on every issue?

Well family values is a strong point the Conservative's like to push. It's like being a member of the Conservatives whilst advocating nationalisation of industry, the NHS and flying Red flags in October.

Personally I find this guy to be more of a twat.

http://www.firstfoot.com/News/images/borisyawns.JPG

Do you have a soul? In an age of mediocre, PR conscious, centrist politicians, Boris is nothing short of a legend.

Fuck Mayor of London, the man should be PM.

Do you have a soul? In an age of mediocre, PR conscious, centrist politicians, Boris is nothing short of a legend.

Fuck Mayor of London, the man should be PM.

I suppose I could agree with you that Boris certaibly isn't a tow-the-line mediocrity like many politicians these days - just as Galloway isn't, only from the other side of the political spectrum. I must say I do miss MPs like Theresa Gorman and Teddy Taylor - even though I disagreed with them, they wern't afraid to say what they really thought instead of what they thought people wanted to hear.