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25 paratroopers one a training mission paradrop straight into the State Pen!

1. Intelligence
2. on a training mission ??

1. Intelligence
2. on a training mission ??

1. Meh

2. Yeah, you know to keep in practice in case they actually have to do it.

1. MehOrthography is a virtue.

2. Yeah, you know to keep in practice in case they actually have to do it.Then don't write "one", because that might confuse a reader.

its not uncommon for paratroopers to miss their DZ...the fact that they landed in a prison yard doesn't mean they're lacking in intelligence...

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25 paratroopers one a training mission paradrop straight into the State Pen!

Actually, if they had shaved them all over, glued blonde wigs to their heads and dropped them in the middle of the yard, it may well have been the kind of exercise that seperates the wheat from the chaff.

This is not a case of being stupid, just a mistake. I tiny miscalculation in wind speed, or something else, can lead to paratroopers drifting hundreds of yards off target, and in some cases, miles off target.

Yeah, this was just a silly goof-up. Nothing earth-shattering.

This is not a case of being stupid, just a mistake. I tiny miscalculation in wind speed, or something else, can lead to paratroopers drifting hundreds of yards off target, and in some cases, miles off target.

Some people around here hate the military and will do anything to discredit them. I think that was the sole intent of the OP. :(

Some people around here hate the military and will do anything to discredit them. I think that was the sole intent of the OP. :(

Yeah. I'm not exactly a lover of the military, and I hate war in general, but I try not to be a flaming asshole about it. It was, as Ben said, a mistake.

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25 paratroopers one a training mission paradrop straight into the State Pen!

Dropzones all over the world have plenty of off target landings every year. As far as I know the military use round parachutes which aren't exactly top of the range for manouverability

Yeah. I'm not exactly a lover of the military, and I hate war in general, but I try not to be a flaming asshole about it. It was, as Ben said, a mistake.
The title would suggest otherwise...

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25 paratroopers one a training mission paradrop straight into the State Pen!

It behooves you to at least try to proof read a post for spelling errors before insulting an entire group's intelligence.

(there are at least 3 grammar errors in my own post, but since I am not attacking a group, it's kosher.)

The title would suggest otherwise...

The thread title is the OP's personal slant on it.

Military Intelligence is an Oxymoron...
This is the joke that the chicken told once he was on the other side of the road...

Some people around here hate the military and will do anything to discredit them. I think that was the sole intent of the OP. :(


I have noticed this fact, however it continues to amaze me, that the generally intelligent and politically active peoples of this forum can hate a group of men and women so much, even though most have never even talked to a servicemember, much less have to live a day in their shoes.

Amusing joke poorly applied. 4/10

you know that shit happens and life goes on, and this was shit happenong. . . and we got some giggles from it.

Yes I know...and? You were being insulting. Maybe not being a total "flaming asshole" as you put it... you replied it was a mistake that they made, yet you insult people's intelligence base on that mistake (as stated in the title). THAT is what I meant by it.

And the winner of the most unobservant Idiot is...

Damaske for his stunning portrayal in "I didn't bother to see who the OP was."

Do you have any words for your adoring fans?

Seeing as they landed in a cornfield, they probably had no idea they were on prison property. I've seen prisons that had so much land that you didn't even know whether you were officially clear of them until the road signs telling you not to pick up hitchhikers had ended. :p

And the winner of the most unobservant Idiot is...

Damaske for his stunning portrayal in "I didn't bother to see who the OP was."

Do you have any words for your adoring fans?

Lolz.

Hahaha! Awesome. Humans will be human...

Amusing joke poorly applied. 4/10

I quibble with the use of the phrase 'oxymoron', when the traditional form of the long established joke - dating back at least as far as Marx - is 'military intelligence is a contradiction in terms'. If nothing else this avoids the problem of the rhetorically loaded term 'oxymoron' and the way that it is often used to apply to phrases which are only apparently contradictory.

And the winner of the most unobservant Idiot is...

Damaske for his stunning portrayal in "I didn't bother to see who the OP was."

Do you have any words for your adoring fans?

pfft..long day.Just saw the B. lol

Some people around here hate the military and will do anything to discredit them. I think that was the sole intent of the OP. And? What's military good for? Shoot to kill. Shoot to kill. Shoot to kill. And what folks do join the military? Dumb folks who need someone to do the thinking for them. I hate people who obey out of the inability to develop a free will, folks who need to be told what to do and who accept another human to give them commands. Military are like dogs.

Yeah the blame goes to ones that told them to jump, not even the one flying the plane.. but the ones covering the coordinates and wind factors etc. It's certainly not the paratroopers fault.

And? What's military good for? Shoot to kill. Shoot to kill. Shoot to kill. And what folks do join the military? Dumb folks who need someone to do the thinking for them. I hate people who obey out of the inability to develop a free will, folks who need to be told what to do and who accept another human to give them commands. Military are like dogs.

Speak for yourself, chicken-shit. I joined due to lack of job oppertunities where I live. The military was a last resort. True, there are those who join simply to legallly kill other. But those few are between and betwixed those who, like me, can't find a job where they live, or was family tradition to serve for country.

The military isn't just to shot and kill. The main reason why any form of military is around is to protect the people and country it serves. Granted it is used also to attack countries that were deemed a threat but did nothing in a way of attacking the militaries country.

Yes, there are morons in the military. I'm in the Guard and deal with tards every weekend. Common sence may not be too common but there isn't much of it in the civilian world either.

Real Military Intelligence doesn't get really involved in training missions like that except for handing out maps to officers...blame the officers planning not the intelligence.

I joined due to lack of job oppertunities where I live. The military was a last resort.Maybe a better education and expansion of competence would have increased your chances to find a good job where you don't have to kill people because you are commanded thus.

True, there are those who join simply to legallly kill other. But those few are between and betwixed those who, like me, can't find a job where they live, or was family tradition to serve for country.What country do you serve? Do you serve the country/state as an abstract idea or the people? And why do you consider it a service? What is the benefit for those you serve? And who suffers because you do what you do in your service?

The military isn't just to shot and kill. The main reason why any form of military is around is to protect the people and country it serves. Granted it is used also to attack countries that were deemed a threat but did nothing in a way of attacking the militaries country.The military is the tool in the hands of the government to achieve by means of force what they doubt to achieve in other ways. And the military are those who obey with no reflection.

Yes, there are morons in the military. I'm in the Guard and deal with tards every weekend. Common sence may not be too common but there isn't much of it in the civilian world either.Which is most unfortunate. However, in the civilian world people cannot be used to do killing by just giving the commands.

And what does Terrorem mean?

Maybe a better education and expansion of competence would have increased your chances to find a good job where you don't have to kill people because you are commanded thus.

Perhapes, if there were colleges near where I lived. And I am far from incompetent.


What country do you serve? Do you serve the country/state as an abstract idea or the people?

The United States of America. Just because I work for in incompetent government (that's both federal and state) the government isn't going to protect the citizines in the event of an invasion. The government will take the credit for ordering me to do my job, yes, but I protect the people.

And why do you consider it a service? What is the benefit for those you serve? And who suffers because you do what you do in your service?

I concider it a service being that my family was in America before the British (New Amsterdam anyone?) showed up here. I concider it a service because Every generation of my family has been in some form of military branch it my families 1,000 year existance.

I suffer for what I do because there are those who do not oppreciate me for what I do. My sacrifice. I could go to college, yes, but lack of a better job is preventing me from doing so. After my contract expires I will qualify for college scholarships through the government. My family suffers knowing that I could die any minute.

Of course, any civilian could die at any moment but it seems that your family cares more about you when a lingering thought of your death is there because one volunteered to go into a hazzardous cituation.

The military is the tool in the hands of the government to achieve by means of force what they doubt to achieve in other ways. And the military are those who obey with no reflection.

A tool just as much as any other form of deplomacy is. And no, we do not "obey without reflection". We are allowed to disobey orders if they go against ones values or are illegal.

And what does Terrorem mean?

It's latin for terror.

Perhapes, if there were colleges near where I lived. And I am far from incompetent.Why didn't you just go where the colleges are?

The United States of America. Just because I work for in incompetent government (that's both federal and state) the government isn't going to protect the citizines in the event of an invasion. The government will take the credit for ordering me to do my job, yes, but I protect the people.From what? From an Iraqi invasion? Ridiculous.

I concider it a service being that my family was in America before the British (New Amsterdam anyone?) showed up here. I concider it a service because Every generation of my family has been in some form of military branch it my families 1,000 year existance.What has family tradition to do with service? Service is what an individual does.

I suffer for what I do because there are those who do not oppreciate me for what I do. My sacrifice. I could go to college, yes, but lack of a better job is preventing me from doing so. After my contract expires I will qualify for college scholarships through the government. My family suffers knowing that I could die any minute.Why could you die any minute? Because military does after all exist for conflict, and it all about shooting to kill?

Of course, any civilian could die at any moment but it seems that your family cares more about you when a lingering thought of your death is there because one volunteered to go into a hazzardous cituation.If it takes that for your family to care about you, there is something wrong.

A tool just as much as any other form of deplomacy is. And no, we do not "obey without reflection". We are allowed to disobey orders if they go against ones values or are illegal.Military is no diplomacy, it's the failure of diplomacy. And you can reject an order? Have you?

It's latin for terror.why the -em ?

Why didn't you just go where the colleges are?

One would need capital, correct? And you said so yourself that the reason for my lack of a good job is due to my incompetence of education. Because of said incompetence I cannot get a job to pay for college.

I live in a small town. I'm stuck here.

From what? From an Iraqi invasion? Ridiculous.

Indeed, an invasion from Iraq is ridiculous but America's enemies are still her enemies. Not so much a country anymore will attack but people with a fantatical ideology will.

What has family tradition to do with service? Service is what an individual does.

Do to self-esteem issues at the moment, it makes me feel better about myself that I am carrying on a legacy.

Why could you die any minute?

Perhapes you are unaware of the fragility of people.

And you can reject an order? Have you?

Yes, on the grounds that it was against a personal value. I will not discuss the order that I was given to you either. I got out of Iraq on the grounds that my immediate family wouldn't have a place to live if I went over there.

What job that I do have it all goes to helping my parents pay their bills.

its not uncommon for paratroopers to miss their DZ...the fact that they landed in a prison yard doesn't mean they're lacking in intelligence...

Yeah the wind could change in a instant but if the prison yard was really far then they definately didn't think about there landing.

Where I was there was fencing on top too. (*brick walls though not fencing) Maybe it's cause I was in "high security" --- err sorta maybe. But I just have this weird image of them trying to make it into the blockyard and hitting fencing on the top and bouncing a few times, with a loud chlecheeegggnnn chehllneng

I wonder if it was national gaurd or the other branches have it classified, or none of the above and a bunch of people said they were "military paratroopers"

weird thing.

Military Intelligence is an Oxymoron is an old joke, older than Alexander the Great. I've known enough people who were in Military Intelligence not to believe it. The dumb ones usually end up in the mail room misdirecting mail.

One would need capital, correct? And you said so yourself that the reason for my lack of a good job is due to my incompetence of education. Because of said incompetence I cannot get a job to pay for college.

I live in a small town. I'm stuck here.



Indeed, an invasion from Iraq is ridiculous but America's enemies are still her enemies. Not so much a country anymore will attack but people with a fantatical ideology will.



Do to self-esteem issues at the moment, it makes me feel better about myself that I am carrying on a legacy.



Perhapes you are unaware of the fragility of people.



Yes, on the grounds that it was against a personal value. I will not discuss the order that I was given to you either. I got out of Iraq on the grounds that my immediate family wouldn't have a place to live if I went over there.

What job that I do have it all goes to helping my parents pay their bills.

You won this thread

You won this thread

he won it along time ago.

United Beleriand:

I am Australian. I believe that you are a fraud.

I hate more than anything else in the world those that abuse their government and/or military when at the same time they are living in that very country. Those people are fake citizens, they are worse than terrorists themselves.

I'd rather dine with Osama bin Laden himself than welcome you into my home, you sick bastard.

All true Australians and Americans would cringe if they heard the filth coming from your dirty, ungrateful, greedy and grotesque mouth. We love freedom, we love free speech and we love protecting others freedoms too. Your the cancer of our society that we put up with exactly for the reasons we love society so much.

Your the reason why welfare is so expensive these days, you people can hardly organize yourselves.

The Military is in place to stop an invasion of ANY foreign foe who is using ANY and ALL tactics to take our land, property, businesses, money and freedom. They are trained to do whatever it takes to stop the foe, because that is what freedom is worth. A misunderstanding of this is simply idiotic and sickening to the very core.

We're moving closer and closer into a dumbed-down society to make it easier for people like you. I just hope the majority see what frauds you really are.

Humanity is a great thing though, rarely do we get people as intellectually incapable and incompetent as yourself in charge. Democracy rules.

You won this thread

he won it along time ago.

Nice. :D

And? What's military good for? Shoot to kill. Shoot to kill. Shoot to kill. And what folks do join the military? Dumb folks who need someone to do the thinking for them. I hate people who obey out of the inability to develop a free will, folks who need to be told what to do and who accept another human to give them commands. Military are like dogs.

Where are you from, give me a straight answer, please.

What kind of military experience do you have to know anything about shoot to kill? When is the last time you had to shoot someone who had a bomb strapped to them?
You say that dumb folks who need someone to think for them join. I will bet anything that I would out preform you in any academics. In fact I'll come to where you live and prove my point. To say that I'm like a dog makes me wish that I didn't do what I did and someone would kill you.
Without the men and women of the military of whatever country your from protect you and scarf ice more than you ever have or ever will. I hope one day you have to pay for something with your blood or someone who is close to you. You will then understand something about what the men and women in the military go through. Also, it takes a lot of "free will" to leave home, move far away from those you know and start a life of your own.

Just one more thing, have you been in combat before? No one thinks for you there, you have yourself and that is it. There is no one thinking for you. You my friend need to walk in someone else shoes before you talk shit about them.

Dropzones all over the world have plenty of off target landings every year. As far as I know the military use round parachutes which aren't exactly top of the range for manouverability

So why use them? If it is important to be able to land in the correct DZ why not use a better parachute?

United Beleriand:

I am Australian. I believe that you are a fraud.

I hate more than anything else in the world those that abuse their government and/or military when at the same time they are living in that very country. Those people are fake citizens, they are worse than terrorists themselves.

I'd rather dine with Osama bin Laden himself than welcome you into my home, you sick bastard.

All true Australians and Americans would cringe if they heard the filth coming from your dirty, ungrateful, greedy and grotesque mouth. We love freedom, we love free speech and we love protecting others freedoms too. Your the cancer of our society that we put up with exactly for the reasons we love society so much.

Your the reason why welfare is so expensive these days, you people can hardly organize yourselves.

The Military is in place to stop an invasion of ANY foreign foe who is using ANY and ALL tactics to take our land, property, businesses, money and freedom. They are trained to do whatever it takes to stop the foe, because that is what freedom is worth. A misunderstanding of this is simply idiotic and sickening to the very core.

We're moving closer and closer into a dumbed-down society to make it easier for people like you. I just hope the majority see what frauds you really are.

Humanity is a great thing though, rarely do we get people as intellectually incapable and incompetent as yourself in charge. Democracy rules.

So whose invasion does Australia have to fear? And weren't Australians part of the forces invading Iraq for the personal agenda of one US president? Who did they protect in that case? Whose freedom were they fighting for? Halliburton's? You speak of foes, but who are the foes in today's world really? The great conflicts have stopped with the end of the Cold War and now everything can be settled with money, except maybe with such groups as Al Qaeda. But those groups cannot be fought with military but only with education of the people in the countries that Al Qaeda gets its members from.
I have lived in Britain, Spain, France, and now Germany, I did community service but I would never get into a organization like the military, since I don't want to ever be a drone in some dear leader's service. I would never get into a chain of command, because that goes against being a free human. An invasion by anyone is highly unlikely in the EU and military only exists as deterrence. Btw I do see the need for military as such, I only have doubts about those who are joining the military (beyond compulsory service).

The Military is in place to stop an invasion of ANY foreign foe who is using ANY and ALL tactics to take our land, property, businesses, money and freedom. They are trained to do whatever it takes to stop the foe, because that is what freedom is worth. A misunderstanding of this is simply idiotic and sickening to the very core.

When was the last time the Australian military was used to stop an invasion of Australia?

A few years ago a parachutist in northern Victoria here in Oz landed in a sewerage treatment plant and drowned.

Not a nice way to go, imo.

(Sorry about 2 posts in a row but they're not really connected.)

When was the last time the Australian military was used to stop an invasion of Australia?

WWII? They had the good sense to stop the invasion before it got close to them.

When was the last time the Australian military was used to stop an invasion of Australia?

Has never happened =/= never will happen

WWII? They had the good sense to stop the invasion before it got close to them.

I have 2 problems with that claim.

1. Even though I'm an Oz, I think the Americans would have a greater claim to having stopped the Japanese in World War 2.

2. All evidence shows that, while the Japanese military seriously considered invading Australia, they decided against it.

So why use them? If it is important to be able to land in the correct DZ why not use a better parachute?

In the military i'd expect one of the biggest reasons to drop them with low manouverability would be to keep them all together for landing.

That and I think the opening speeds are an issue with heavy loads

Has never happened =/= never will happenSo which country's possible invasion of Australia are you concerned about particularly?

So which country's possible invasion of Australia are you concerned about particularly?

None........at the moment ;)

Good thing that nothing ever changes isn't it

I believe that you are a fraud.No. It was a fraud when the US lied to the world and claimed there was a need to invade Iraq and that the US could handle "liberating" the Iraqi people.

None........at the moment ;)

Good thing that nothing ever changes isn't itWhat change do you expect?

What change do you expect?

I can't predict the future personally unfortunately

I can't predict the future personally unfortunatelySo your fear is in fact irrational?

So your fear is in fact irrational?

My fear is based on an understanding that war has been a part of humanity for a hell of a long time.

Do you have medical/home/car insurance at all?

My fear is based on an understanding that war has been a part of humanity for a hell of a long time.But what about Iraq and Afghanistan, where use of military is ineffective? And what about the fact that it was the US and Britain that invaded there? So military is not just defense but a means to carry out an assault?

But what about Iraq and Afghanistan, where use of military is ineffective?

Do you mean ineffective in a defensive or offensive manner?

It doesn't really matter though. The fact that the military will not always achieve its goal does not mean it never achieves its goal

Do you mean ineffective in a defensive or offensive manner?

It doesn't really matter though. The fact that the military will not always achieve its goal does not mean it never achieves its goalWhat was the goal? To pursue the private agenda of Mr Bush? See, the military can be used for such pointless adventures, so I wonder what folks are in the military who do not object to being (ab)used thusly.

What was the goal? To pursue the private agenda of Mr Bush? See, the military can be used for such pointless adventures, so I wonder what folks are in the military who do not object to being (ab)used thusly.

Terrorem has already spent a couple of pages answering you on this point. I see no reason to think I could improve on that

Has never happened =/= never will happen

Well New Guinea (or was it Papua?) was invaded during WW2 and that was considered as being under control of Australia...

So which country's possible invasion of Australia are you concerned about particularly?

None as yet though the military and federal government will probably be more worried about Indonesia as a military threat (though not an invasion military).

1. Even though I'm an Oz, I think the Americans would have a greater claim to having stopped the Japanese in World War 2.

Whilst I agree to that the fact that the failure of the Japanese expedition to New Guinea (supply lines would be more difficult to operate without it) would have made an invasion less likely.

Also we were not trying to do that much damage to them so invading wouldn't have been as important as invading the British holdings and trying to stop the U.S navies/armies.

And? What's military good for? Shoot to kill. Shoot to kill. Shoot to kill. And what folks do join the military? Dumb folks who need someone to do the thinking for them. I hate people who obey out of the inability to develop a free will, folks who need to be told what to do and who accept another human to give them commands. Military are like dogs.

this comment right here shows that your intelligence level is pretty low.

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this comment right here shows that your intelligence level is pretty low.

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You may put as much effort into insulting me as you wish, but that won't change the fact that those who join the military for longer are rather not the most intelligent specimens in a society. Bright folks go into industry and make things, instead of joining the military to destroy things.

You may put as much effort into insulting me as you wish, but that won't change the fact that those who join the military for longer are rather not the most intelligent specimens in a society. Bright folks go into industry and make things, instead of joining the military to destroy things.
Erm.

To be fair, there are some extremely intelligent people in military-related careers - the engineers who design weapons, for example, are Pretty Clever.

The average boot on the ground might not be that clever, but don't write a whole organisation off on the grounds that there is a higher-than-average concentration of those with low intelligence.

The generals at the top usually have something going for them (esp. the new Commander in Chief in Iraq) as do the guys in the engineers, the special forces and a lot of people who do the brainwork behind the logistics of war.



Incidentally, whilst the socialist ideals may paint them as something else, most factory workers in first-world states are of pretty low intelligence, or they'd kind of be able to do better ;)

You may put as much effort into insulting me as you wish, but that won't change the fact that those who join the military for longer are rather not the most intelligent specimens in a society. Bright folks go into industry and make things, instead of joining the military to destroy things.

i didn't know John Kerry posted in these forums.

I'm not so sure you have even the slightest knowledge of the military or people in the military. but yet you make your ignorant comments proving you yourself have a lack of intelligence. if the military is for idiots why are you not the leader of it?

What was the goal? To pursue the private agenda of Mr Bush? See, the military can be used for such pointless adventures, so I wonder what folks are in the military who do not object to being (ab)used thusly.


The goal is to seek out and destroy the enemy, which happens to be fanatical Muslims. There are 100,000s of people through out the world who want to destroy the West and our way of life. Just because you dont' want to see it doesn't mean its not there.

The goal is to seek out and destroy the enemy, which happens to be fanatical Muslims. There are 100,000s of people through out the world who want to destroy the West and our way of life. Just because you dont' want to see it doesn't mean its not there.

Thats really not going to help your argument really.

snip I could go to college, yes, but lack of a better job is preventing me from doing so. snip

I mopped floors for a living and payed for my entire college education on top of housing and all other expenses ... no loans nor grants nor scholarships

I live in a town of 10,000 people. All the businesses are family owned. I don't have a chance. I've tried.

I live in a town of 10,000 people. All the businesses are family owned. I don't have a chance. I've tried.

Is the university you would want to go to in your town?

I mopped floors for a living and payed for my entire college education on top of housing and all other expenses ... no loans nor grants nor scholarships

we pay college tuition for 3 people in cash, and we aren't even rich. We also pay all our bills and feed both of our kids.

It's hard and it sucks, but it can be done. (for disclosure purposes, we do get a pell grant for hubby every year, and I get a $200 scholarship, but other than that, it's all us)

Is the university you would want to go to in your town?

No it's not. Which is why every penny that I come across is saved in the bank (if bills don't need it first).

United Beleriand.... No matter how civilized we may become as a species, we still must acknowledge our 2 oldest professions, Sex and War. Since the dawn of civilization there has always been war. Clans fighting other Clans. Cities fighting other Cities. You may say that thous who join the military are the wisest of us all for choosing a job with limitless job security. Every day new technology comes about and puts many people out of business. The military just adapts to the new technology.

Ahem....




LOL

we pay college tuition for 3 people in cash, and we aren't even rich. We also pay all our bills and feed both of our kids.

It's hard and it sucks, but it can be done. (for disclosure purposes, we do get a pell grant for hubby every year, and I get a $200 scholarship, but other than that, it's all us)

Yup it can be done :)

Why don't all you military lover go to Iraq and defend the West on the banks of the Firat?

Why don't all you military lover go to Iraq and defend the West on the banks of the Firat?

I'm going in 2010, so please, put your dick in your mouth and shut the fuck up. Thank you.

Why don't all you military lover go to Iraq and defend the West on the banks of the Firat?

I'll be there again in feb. I'll be sure to take lots of pictures of all the non-killing related things so you can see all the other work that we do there.

I'm going in 2010, so please, put your dick in your mouth and shut the fuck up. Thank you.

Where are you from? Which branch do you plan on joining?


If your from the US I'd join the Marine Corps and go Infantry. Thats what I am. Its an amazing job. Somedays I wake up and wonder what the hell was I thinking. But overall its very rewarding and a good challenge.

PS: To that one shithead, I'd love to see you command a fire team or squad in combat, you would never be able to do it.

Where are you from? Which branch do you plan on joining?


If your from the US I'd join the Marine Corps and go Infantry. Thats what I am. Its an amazing job. Somedays I wake up and wonder what the hell was I thinking. But overall its very rewarding and a good challenge.

PS: To that one shithead, I'd love to see you command a fire team or squad in combat, you would never be able to do it.

What does that PS have to do with anything?

Im sorry I don't agree with his viewpoint at all but turning it into a pointless dick measuring contest is not really adding anything.

What does that PS have to do with anything?

Im sorry I don't agree with his viewpoint at all but turning it into a pointless dick measuring contest is not really adding anything.


It has everything to do with it. That dumbass wants to tell me that I'm not smart and that I joined to destroy things. He hasn't a fucking clue what he is talking about and I do because I've been there. His comments of me being a dog made this a dick measuring contest. I would bet anything that I've accomplished more in my life this shithead and I'm only 19. Its assholes like that that make me wish the fantical Muslims would have their way and destroy the West so I can say, "I told you so" But I've got to think about the majority of people not the minority.

And also to him, thank you for proving that my job is doing something, without it someone would have killed you for your views many years ago.

actually Iraq is a beautiful country if you know where to look....

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That my friend who is in country and one one of the most beautiful bodies of water I've seen...

It has everything to do with it. That dumbass wants to tell me that I'm not smart and that I joined to destroy things. He hasn't a fucking clue what he is talking about and I do because I've been there. His comments of me being a dog made this a dick measuring contest. I would bet anything that I've accomplished more in my life this shithead and I'm only 19. Its assholes like that that make me wish the fantical Muslims would have their way and destroy the West so I can say, "I told you so" But I've got to think about the majority of people not the minority.

And also to him, thank you for proving that my job is doing something, without it someone would have killed you for your views many years ago.

And I am plenty sure there are things that he or me or other people can do right now that you cant ... that does not "prove" a damn thing about your intellect at least as a general statement nor does it prove anything about his.

The nature of our specialist world is that not everyone can do everything reguardless of intelligence

He hasn't a fucking clue what he is talking about and I do because I've been there. His comments of me being a dog made this a dick measuring contest.

And I've been there too. I was a CPL in the US Army's 3d Cavalry during OIF1. Trust me, jumping into a dick measuring contest with some random military hater on the Internet does absolutely nothing. You'll never change his opinion, and stooping to his level doesn't do anything good for the military's image, especially on a forum like NSG. It's far better to treat him like you should any civilian, with respect and tact because he wants you to get pissed and flame the hell out of him.

Indeed, an invasion from Iraq is ridiculous but America's enemies are still her enemies. Not so much a country anymore will attack but people with a fantatical ideology will.

You mean like people with the ideology of having a tradition to go to war?

Obviously, not against you, but still quite relevant.

I'll be there again in feb. I'll be sure to take lots of pictures of all the non-killing related things so you can see all the other work that we do there.The world has already seen what folks like you do there. The mess in Iraq was made by the US military and its braindead leaders.

1. I was drunk and had been up all night
2. I thought it was funny
3. I was just trying to make it even funnier with the title.

Now, I have no inherent dislike for the armed forces, in fact I have a level of respect and admiration for them. They perform a necesary and dangerous job to keep us safe. My family has a tradition of being in the special forces that dates back to WWII my grandfather was a frogman and my dad a SEAL, 2 members of my family have served as Airborne Rangers; and my brother Bob currently serves in the Army as a paratrooper, he has excelled in training and might be the 3rd person from our family in 50 years to become a Ranger. I couldn't think of a better Op name, not being 'unpatriotic' or 'hateful' I was poking fun at the situation.
Had I been trying to insult the US Army National Guard (who perpetrated the accident to my knowledge) I would have left some scathing remarks or something of the nature... I thought you people would know me by now.