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The only teams you have playing are American and Canadian. That is not the 'world' series. I don't care if you have players from all over the world, the UEFA cup has players from all over the world, but it is still called the United European Football Associasion cup, not the World cup. The actual world cup (of football) does involve the world, with countries as far apart as Sengal, Switzerland and Singapore competing. Its just silly to call your tournment the world series just because you are the only ones who take baseball seriously enough to have a large scale tournment. So please defend yourselves and give me a descent reason why you shouldn't rename your tournment, and not one that is just "Its ours, we want to name it that" etc because if any other country did that you would be fuming. So do you actually have a decent reason for keeping it that way.

I don't know why it's called that and I've wondered about this before.

Who fucking cares?

im pretty sure that "the world series" is owned by MLB not the united states of america.

therefore its up to MLB to keep or change the name, not congress.

While we're on the subject; it's football, not soccer.

Who fucking cares?
Losers with nothing better to do? :p

The only teams you have playing are American and Canadian. That is not the 'world' series. I don't care if you have players from all over the world, the UEFA cup has players from all over the world, but it is still called the United European Football Associasion cup, not the World cup. The actual world cup (of football) does involve the world, with countries as far apart as Sengal, Switzerland and Singapore competing. Its just silly to call your tournment the world series just because you are the only ones who take baseball seriously enough to have a large scale tournment. So please defend yourselves and give me a descent reason why you shouldn't rename your tournment, and not one that is just "Its ours, we want to name it that" etc because if any other country did that you would be fuming. So do you actually have a decent reason for keeping it that way.

We like it. So there.
We don't tell you that cricket is ridiculous, show a little class and politeness. The superciliousness of your demand for us to change something we've no problem with is the only thing that's even approaching making anyone fume.

By the way, it's "decent". Descent means going down.

Now why don't you arrange things in your own country so as to be more convenient to Americans?

We ARE the world, for your information.

We ARE the world, for your information.

What are us europeans then?

So do you actually have a decent reason for keeping it that way.
Yup: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Series#International_impact.2C_and_explanation_of_the_term_.22World.22_Series

I'll get right on that.

The only teams you have playing are American and Canadian. That is not the 'world' series. I don't care if you have players from all over the world, the UEFA cup has players from all over the world, but it is still called the United European Football Associasion cup, not the World cup. The actual world cup (of football) does involve the world, with countries as far apart as Sengal, Switzerland and Singapore competing. Its just silly to call your tournment the world series just because you are the only ones who take baseball seriously enough to have a large scale tournment. So please defend yourselves and give me a descent reason why you shouldn't rename your tournment, and not one that is just "Its ours, we want to name it that" etc because if any other country did that you would be fuming. So do you actually have a decent reason for keeping it that way.

OK, it's like this. The world series is called the world series because the only part of the world that count is the USA...and Canada, but we only count them to make us feel better about ourselves.

AND you people really should start calling "football" by it's proper name. We all know it's soccer, time to admit it. And you people really should quit Soccer, Cricket and all the different types of rugby you play and to make up for it you should start up Baseball, Football and Basketball.

Stop using the letter U so much, and instead of using the letter S so much, replace it with Z, and pronouce that letter "zee" not "zed".

And last but not least, the UK really should commence proceedings to eventually recognize our President as your head of state.

What are us europeans then?

That speck in the ocean a few miles east of us that we save from itself every few decades.

What are us europeans then?

Future Americans.

Future Americans.

Really? Because to tell the truth, I have no plan to become a US citizen.

Really? Because to tell the truth, I have no plan to become a US citizen.

When we invade Poland, you'll have no choice.

Really? Because to tell the truth, I have no plan to become a US citizen.

How disappointing.

North America is the whole world.

Besides, baseball is teh rawx!

I don't understand why people say it's boring, they must not understand the game.

When we invade Poland, you'll have no choice.

I'l just start my own country then.

I'l just start my own country then.

You 15 year olds are so cute!

How disappointing.
How is it so disappointing?

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Besides, baseball is teh rawx!

I don't understand why people say it's boring, they must not understand the game.





People say it's boring since there is no damn action. Hit the ball, run around the square. And it takes forever for them to do that. It's tragic that it has such a large following of fans...like NASCAR.

North America is the whole world.

Besides, baseball is teh rawx!

I don't understand why people say it's boring, they must not understand the game.

Because nothing happens there. Hardly anything besides the ball ever moves around in it.

People say it's boring since there is no damn action. Hit the ball, run around the square. And it takes forever for them to do that. It's tragic that it has such a large following of fans...like NASCAR.

All of our sports are head and shoulders above your stupid soccer and your stupid cricket, even our crappy sports are better then your sports, even golf, even hockey, even tennis is better then soccer and cricket.

Cricket is like baseball but a lot slooooooooooower. And soccer...don't get me started about soccer, have you seen the simpsons episode where they make fun of soccer? Where the 3 guys just pass the ball to each other, and nothing happens.

That's what we think soccer is, and it's true, a game is 90 minutes and i doubt theres 60 seconds of action all up

Post Terran Europa, how do you come up with this stuff? I mean really, you must be the first person to have pointed this out. Ever. If only we all had your wit, insight and perception, surely the world would be free of inaccurate phrases, a.k.a The Scourge of Free Men.

All of our sports are head and shoulders above your stupid soccer and your stupid cricket, even our crappy sports are better then your sports, even golf, even hockey, even tennis is better then soccer and cricket.

Cricket is like baseball but a lot slooooooooooower. And soccer...don't get me started about soccer, have you seen the simpsons episode where they make fun of soccer? Where the 3 guys just pass the ball to each other, and nothing happens.

That's what we think soccer is, and it's true, a game is 90 minutes and i doubt theres 60 seconds of action all up
who said we watch cricket?

And as for football (sorry, soccer) lot's of stuff happens. But If your idea of watching sports is staring at the scoreboard, I can perfectly understand why you might not like football (sorry, soccer).

All of our sports are head and shoulders above your stupid soccer and your stupid cricket, even our crappy sports are better then your sports, even golf, even hockey, even tennis is better then soccer and cricket.

Cricket is like baseball but a lot slooooooooooower. And soccer...don't get me started about soccer, have you seen the simpsons episode where they make fun of soccer? Where the 3 guys just pass the ball to each other, and nothing happens.



First of all.... GOLF isn't American you thick incompetent imbecile.

Secondly if Football is soooo very slow, then how can someone as well educated and opinionated as yourself deign to watch american football where plays last naught but 5 seconds and then they have a minute and a half break. The game is only an hour long but you morons make it last 3.

All of our sports are head and shoulders above your stupid soccer and your stupid cricket, even our crappy sports are better then your sports, even golf, even hockey, even tennis is better then soccer and cricket.
Tennis was invented in Europe (I think the UK, but I'm possibly wrong), so it's our sport, really :P

Same with golf (I think it was the Scottish, although that could be an urban myth).

I'd be surprised if hockey wasn't invented by a European, too.

Because nothing happens there. Hardly anything besides the ball ever moves around in it.

so you don't understand baseball then? right.

who said we watch cricket?

And as for football (sorry, soccer) lot's of stuff happens. But If your idea of watching sports is staring at the scoreboard, I can perfectly understand why you might not like football (sorry, soccer).

You people started it, then Australia got obsessed with it, now you have a stupid contest with a stupid name every few years to fight over a fake trophy. It's like the world series but it's stupid.

And i gratz you, at least your learning to say it's proper name. And no not much stuff happens in soccer, the point of the game is to score goals, and you don't scory many. I once heard a 3-0 victory described as "destruction". Our sports are much more entertaining, in Basketball we fit in like 200 points in half the time soccer is played in.

Baseball is awesome, sometimes the pitcher throws the ball and it hits a bird and the bird dies.

Football is the sport of kings.

In conclusion:
American sports=good, british sports=yawn

Tennis was invented in Europe (I think the UK, but I'm possibly wrong), so it's our sport, really :P

Same with golf (I think it was the Scottish, although that could be an urban myth).

I'd be surprised if hockey wasn't invented by a European, too.


GOLF is Scottish, Hockey is Canadian and they'd rather not be classified with the Americans

so you don't understand baseball then? right.

What's to understand? Please enlighten us.

All of our sports are head and shoulders above your stupid soccer and your stupid cricket, even our crappy sports are better then your sports, even golf, even hockey, even tennis is better then soccer and cricket.

Cricket is like baseball but a lot slooooooooooower. And soccer...don't get me started about soccer, have you seen the simpsons episode where they make fun of soccer? Where the 3 guys just pass the ball to each other, and nothing happens.

That's what we think soccer is, and it's true, a game is 90 minutes and i doubt theres 60 seconds of action all up

So...what's more widespread around the world?
Football (soccer) or AMERICAN Football (do they even use their foot that much?)

Lmao...you're using a cartoon to try and prove your point xD, American Football is a joke anyway, a bad joke doesn't need to be taken any further.
American football sucks, and it's true, a game is one hour long, the show lasts four and I doubt more than 60 seconds action is ever there, even in the "SUUUUPPPPPPERRRRRBOOOOWWWWWWL"
Even Cricket is more widespread than like...any of your sports. except maybe Basketball. And I'm pretty sure Golf is British...not sure though. (Wiki says either Scottish, Chinese or Dutch)

But back on topic, yeah. America owns the world, so it's an okay name...
"America, FUCK YEAH!"

And i gratz you, at least your learning to say it's proper name. And no not much stuff happens in soccer, the point of the game is to score goals, and you don't scory many. I once heard a 3-0 victory described as "destruction". Our sports are much more entertaining, in Basketball we fit in like 200 points in half the time soccer is played in.

Baseball is awesome, sometimes the pitcher throws the ball and it hits a bird and the bird dies.

Football is the sport of kings.

In conclusion:
American sports=good, british sports=yawn




You fit 200 points into basketball since there is no defence. it's like taking turns shooting on an open goal.
watching Birds dies isn't fun, it's rather barbaric.
And american football...no

First of all.... GOLF isn't American you thick incompetent imbecile.

Secondly if Football is soooo very slow, then how can someone as well educated and opinionated as yourself deign to watch american football where plays last naught but 5 seconds and then they have a minute and a half break. The game is only an hour long but you morons make it last 3.

Because the action in those few seconds makes up for it, as well as what happens in the "break" is a part of the game. Football is a beautiful mix of higher end thinking and brutal action.

And as for Golf, um hello, we have Tiger, and as long as we have Tiger then golf is american. If you people make a basketballer better then LeBron then i'll give you Basketball etc.

Tennis was invented in Europe (I think the UK, but I'm possibly wrong), so it's our sport, really :P

Same with golf (I think it was the Scottish, although that could be an urban myth).

I'd be surprised if hockey wasn't invented by a European, too.

Maria Sharapova lives here, and that's all that counts so Tennis is ours. And as for Hockey, we don't like Hockey either, and it's Canadian more then it is American, but Canadia is our lil bro so that makes Hockey ours.

Because the action in those few seconds makes up for it, as well as what happens in the "break" is a part of the game. Football is a beautiful mix of higher end thinking and brutal action.

And as for Golf, um hello, we have Tiger, and as long as we have Tiger then golf is american. If you people make a basketballer better then LeBron then i'll give you Basketball etc.



Maria Sharapova lives here, and that's all that counts so Tennis is ours. And as for Hockey, we don't like Hockey either, and it's Canadian more then it is American, but Canadia is our lil bro so that makes Hockey ours.


Rugby is a mix of action and higher end thinking.
And I'll say again Canada doesn't want to be classified with you american morons. your "lil bro"...Bullshit.

So...what's more widespread around the world?
Football (soccer) or AMERICAN Football (do they even use their foot that much?)

Lmao...you're using a cartoon to try and prove your point xD, American Football is a joke anyway, a bad joke doesn't need to be taken any further.
American football sucks, and it's true, a game is one hour long, the show lasts four and I doubt more than 60 seconds action is ever there, even in the "SUUUUPPPPPPERRRRRBOOOOWWWWWWL"
Even Cricket is more widespread than like...any of your sports. except maybe Basketball. And I'm pretty sure Golf is British...not sure though. (Wiki says either Scottish, Chinese or Dutch)

But back on topic, yeah. America owns the world, so it's an okay name...
"America, FUCK YEAH!"

Go back to my first post here. My first post makes your "soccer is better coz heaps of people play it" invalid. My first post says the reason we call it the world series is because the only part of the world that is awesome is America and Canada.

Look at one of my above posts for my arguement in support of Football.

Rugby is a mix of action and higher end thinking.
And I'll say again Canada doesn't want to be classified with you american morons. your "lil bro"...Bullshit.

What Canadia wants doesn't matter. As i said, they are our lil bro, so we are the big bro, so to quote the man, we are the decider when it comes to Canada. Hockey is ours.

Rugby is so crap noone except New Zealand likes it, and the other one (i think it's called league), noone except Australia likes it. And it is definetley not higher end thinking. All you do is pass (BACKWARDS!!!!) then run, and fall when you get tackled, then you jump on each other then you get the ball, and run towards the other team and again you fall as you get tackled.

Unlike Football where we don't surrender in tackles, we run for every inch.

Go back to my first post here. My first post makes your "soccer is better coz heaps of people play it" invalid. My first post says the reason we call it the world series is because the only part of the world that is awesome is America and Canada.

Look at one of my above posts for my arguement in support of Football.

Yeah sorry, much of it was said whilst I was typing. :(

You people started it, then Australia got obsessed with it, now you have a stupid contest with a stupid name every few years to fight over a fake trophy. It's like the world series but it's stupid.
Cricket was invented in Poland? Wow, I never knew that.

And i gratz you, at least your learning to say it's proper name.
I already knew to call it football. I'm only saying "soccer" in that last post so you might actually understand me.

And no not much stuff happens in soccer, the point of the game is to score goals, and you don't scory many. I once heard a 3-0 victory described as "destruction".
There's more "stuff" in football than just goals.

Our sports are much more entertaining, in Basketball we fit in like 200 points in half the time soccer is played in.
Well, that's from the lack of defence. If there was no defence in football, the same would be true. But goals are hardly exiciting when it's just people taking turns scoring into an empty net.

Baseball is awesome, sometimes the pitcher throws the ball and it hits a bird and the bird dies.
Sometimes. Most of the time it's a complete snore-fest.

Football is the sport of kings.
Agreed. Or are you talking about that nonsense they play in america?
In conclusion:
American sports=good, british sports=yawn
Since when was this about which countries have better sports?

What Canadia wants doesn't matter. As i said, they are our lil bro, so we are the big bro, so to quote the man, we are the decider when it comes to Canada. Hockey is ours.

Rugby is so crap noone except New Zealand likes it, and the other one (i think it's called league), noone except Australia likes it. And it is definetley not higher end thinking. All you do is pass (BACKWARDS!!!!) then run, and fall when you get tackled, then you jump on each other then you get the ball, and run towards the other team and again you fall as you get tackled.

Unlike Football where we don't surrender in tackles, we run for every inch.

Canada is your little brother who kicked your ass ever time you tried to invade...and even burnt your white house. Yeah Canada sure seems to be okay with being the little brother.

And as for fighting for every inch in american football. Yeah im sure you guys don't give up tackles, and give 110% seeing as how you need to build a wall of fat unathletic people in front of you so you don't get hit, and even then you wear like 50 pounds of equipment just in case. Call us rugby players once your testicles drop out of their spots as ovaries in your fragile, protected bodies and then we'll show you what a real sport is.

And as for Golf, um hello, we have Tiger, and as long as we have Tiger then golf is american.

Maria Sharapova lives here, and that's all that counts so Tennis is ours. And as for Hockey, we don't like Hockey either, and it's Canadian more then it is American, but Canadia is our lil bro so that makes Hockey ours.

I cannot tell if this is intended silliness, sarcasm or an honest opinion by an intellectually defunct nincompoop.

Find a British, German, or French baseball team then come talk to us

Canada is your little brother who kicked your ass ever time you tried to invade...and even burnt your white house. Yeah Canada sure seems to be okay with being the little brother.

And as for fighting for every inch in american football. Yeah im sure you guys don't give up tackles, and give 110% seeing as how you need to build a wall of fat unathletic people in front of you so you don't get hit, and even then you wear like 50 pounds of equipment just in case. Call us rugby players once your testicles drop out of their spots as ovaries in your fragile, protected bodies and then we'll show you what a real sport is.

The "wall of fat unathletic people" is just one aspect of many when it comes to the poetic battle offense and defense plays on the battlefield. And as for the equipment? I don't mind, if it enables players to give it their all and hesitate less then i'm all for it.

If i had the choice between my players playing with no equipment and going in with only 70% willpower, energy, strength etc, or being fully padded up and going at it 100%, then i would choose the latter every time.

I cannot tell if this is intended silliness, sarcasm or an honest opinion by an intellectually defunct nincompoop.

I'm serious. We have Tiger and Sharapova so Golf and Tennis are ours.

People say it's boring since there is no damn action. Hit the ball, run around the square. And it takes forever for them to do that. It's tragic that it has such a large following of fans...like NASCAR.

First off, it is a DIAMOND, not a square. And two, baseball is more exciting than NASCAR. In NASCAR, all you have is great collisions but in Baseball, you have spectacular plays that destroy NASCAR's crashes.

I cannot tell if this is intended silliness, sarcasm or an honest opinion by an intellectually defunct nincompoop.

Would that not apply to all those who bothered to post in this thread as well?

The "wall of fat unathletic people" is just one aspect of many when it comes to the poetic battle offense and defense plays on the battlefield. And as for the equipment? I don't mind, if it enables players to give it their all and hesitate less then i'm all for it.

If i had the choice between my players playing with no equipment and going in with only 70% willpower, energy, strength etc, or being fully padded up and going at it 100%, then i would choose the latter every time.

I'm serious. We have Tiger and Sharapova so Golf and Tennis are ours.

I'm wondernig how playing 40 minutes non stop, then a short break, and then another 40 minutes non stop is not playing hard.

Sharapova is such an american name isn't it? It's almost like she actually might be american. but she isn't. You are retarded.

Find a British, German, or French baseball team then come talk to us

Their is none because you cheese eating surrender monkeys wouldn't know a good sport if it punched you in the face.

who said we watch cricket?

And as for football (sorry, soccer) lot's of stuff happens. But If your idea of watching sports is staring at the scoreboard, I can perfectly understand why you might not like football (sorry, soccer).

Up and down the field. Little scoring. Maybe an occassional yellow or red card. Yea lot's of stuff happens in soccer :rolleyes:

First off, it is a DIAMOND, not a square. And two, baseball is more exciting than NASCAR. In NASCAR, all you have is great collisions but in Baseball, you have spectacular plays that destroy NASCAR's crashes.

A diamond is a square turned on its end. You're lack of knowledge makes me rather sad. It's depressing to see the state of your nation through comments like that.

Rugby is a mix of action and higher end thinking.
And I'll say again Canada doesn't want to be classified with you american morons. your "lil bro"...Bullshit.

And football has more career ending injuries than rugby.

I'm serious. We have Tiger and Sharapova so Golf and Tennis are ours.

its such a simple calculation, why are they disputing it?

as to golf, while tiger does clinch our owning of golf so does our overwhelming abundance of golf courses. i bet there are more golf courses in florida alone than in all of scotland probably more than in the whole of great britain.

golf is ours.

and you forgot the williams sisters in tennis.

Their is none because you cheese eating surrender monkeys wouldn't know a good sport if it punched you in the face.

Britain and Germany are Cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys too now?

It is the world series. No one else in the world has qualified except the US and Canada. I'm sure the Tokoyo Giants will make it soon. I mean the Yankees bought Matsui from them and he's one of the best players they have.

Their is none because you cheese eating surrender monkeys wouldn't know a good sport if it punched you in the face.

He's from Philadelphia :rolleyes:

I'm wondernig how playing 40 minutes non stop, then a short break, and then another 40 minutes non stop is not playing hard.

Sharapova is such an american name isn't it? It's almost like she actually might be american. but she isn't. You are retarded.

I'm not doubting the fact rugby takes some fitness, but you cannot say the players run 100% into a tackle. Over 90% of the time the ball carrier is already beginning to go to ground before they are tackled.

And as for Sharapova being an american name or not is meaningless. People can come here from different countries and can become citizens, or their ancestors can do that, all without americanizing their name. And Sharapova isn't a citizen but she lives here full time, has lived here since the age of 7, is a permanent resident and will become a citizen when she finishes her career.

So in pretty much every practical and meaningful way she is american.

First off, it is a DIAMOND, not a square.
Why cares how you call it. besides, a baseball diamond is square, isn't it.

And two, baseball is more exciting than NASCAR.In NASCAR, all you have is great collisions but in Baseball, you have spectacular plays that destroy NASCAR's crashes.

Wow. A ball gets hit with a club. How exciting. :rolleyes:

Maria Sharapova lives here, and that's all that counts so Tennis is ours. And as for Hockey, we don't like Hockey either, and it's Canadian more then it is American, but Canadia is our lil bro so that makes Hockey ours.
Sorry, but with your twisted logic: tennis in Belgian.

I'm not doubting the fact rugby takes some fitness, but you cannot say the players run 100% into a tackle. Over 90% of the time the ball carrier is already beginning to go to ground before they are tackled.

And as for Sharapova being an american name or not is meaningless. People can come here from different countries and can become citizens, or their ancestors can do that, all without americanizing their name. And Sharapova isn't a citizen but she lives here full time, has lived here since the age of 7, is a permanent resident and will become a citizen when she finishes her career.

So in pretty much every practical and meaningful way she is american.


The ball carrier goes down because he knows that it will be advantageous for his team in the ruck. Rugby takes a hell of a lot of skill. In only being able to throw the ball backwards it adds more required tactics then football has ever had.

Sharapova is not an american. She can become a citizen but that doesn't make her american. she is just a wannabe member of a rather depressing society.

A diamond is a square turned on its end. You're lack of knowledge makes me rather sad. It's depressing to see the state of your nation through comments like that.

Oh brother. You are just as bad as that thug character. The proper term to be used is a diamond Scoyttland, not square. To use your line "Your (not the contraction you are) lack of knowledge makes me rather sad."

Britain and Germany are Cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys too now?

You do realise that this guy has not made one serious post in this thread, right? I mean, seriously..

Britain and Germany are Cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys too now?

Oh yeah, didn't you know? Germany didn't go to Iraq, and Britain talks funny, so they are pretty much French in every way, and cheese eating surrender monkey is synonymous with France, so Germany and Britain are cheese eating surrender monkeys.

He's from Philadelphia :rolleyes:

Exactly...

its such a simple calculation, why are they disputing it?

as to golf, while tiger does clinch our owning of golf so does our overwhelming abundance of golf courses. i bet there are more golf courses in florida alone than in all of scotland probably more than in the whole of great britain.

golf is ours.

and you forgot the williams sisters in tennis.

And Davenport. We have alot of star tennis players and not just on the ladies side either.

call your tournment the world series just because you are the only ones who take baseball seriously enough to have a large scale tournment.

But that's it exactly. There is no other tournament in the world of a comparable magnitude, thereby defaulting the current World Series as the World Series. The World Cup is the World Cup because it is the biggest tournament in Soccer in the world. Thus, by that logic, the biggest tournament in the world for baseball would be called the World Something. Let's see now, since baseball tournaments are called series, I guess we'll use World...Series. Yep. World Series. I like the sound of that.

Oh brother. You are just as bad as that thug character. The proper term to be used is a diamond Scoyttland, not square. To use your line "Your (not the contraction you are) lack of knowledge makes me rather sad."


Good point. I concede that one to you and do admit that that is a spelling error. But it doesn't change the fact that a diamond is a square. I'm sorry but it just seems dumb to call it such.

Trilby63;12874066']You do realise that this guy has not made one serious post in this thread, right? I mean, seriously..

Since when was NSG supposed to be a place for serious discussion?

Exactly...

HOw does one become a cheese eating surrender monkey if he is from the UNITED STATES? Leave please before the intelligence of this thread crumbles further.

I'm not sure if this is a joke or not, but to make a legitimate answer, not a "Well, we named it, so ha. America is teh roXX0rz!" It would appear that someone named it in the first place to denote the "best team in the world," because baseball was most common in the United States, and the name stuck. It's somewhat similar to an ungainly term in a language. It's existence is unfortunate, but people have become so accustomed to using it, that an attempt to change it would look foolish, and be far worse than the original term.

Also, most sports were first made for playing, then for watching. Example, crew. Watching boats on television isn't great, what, they're boats, rowing, no scoring, no violence, not much appeal to the average sports audience, at least not the one around me. Being on the shores is more fun because you can yell and scream and ring cowbells to cheer on your team. But being in the boat is the most fun because well, that's where all the action is, you ask yourself if you can actually pass the boat ahead of you. Same with baseball, though I never played it, sitting in the ballpark with friends or family is much better than watching television, because you're there, not just watching what someone felt like editing together.

Yep, just my opinions there.

I grew up in St. Louis, which is considered by many as baseball mecca, with the understanding that when the series was first brought up in the very early 1900s it was titled that because the two competing leagues were the only in the world. Therefore the winner was considered the champion of the world. Knowing a little US history of that time we had come off a war with Spain, gained colonies and had a sense of "worldly prowess" not experienced in our history. So in our naiveness we felt that we were equals, if not rivals, to the empires of Europe.

Another theory states that the orginal series was sponsored by the defunct New York World newspaper. I am not aware of this fact but knowing how traditional baseball is I would not be surprised if this holds true.

Now in this global world it can probably use a new title. However, baseball unlike a lot of other sports in America, and possibly else where, is based on tradition and linking itself with America's pastoral past. (If you see the movie Field of Dreams it touches on these themes.)

Baseball basically is tradition, it links urban, rural, black, white and reminds us all that despite our differences we are all Americans. Anyone who travels around the US knows what to expect when they see those with ball caps with symbols of the Cardinals, Cubs, Yankees, Red Sox, Dodgers. It is fun being at airports and seeing someone with opposition ball cap and talk about games and each others teams histories. Baseball is THE true uniter in the States.

So to answer your question yes the title may seem archaic, especially with the global climate as it is, however it is unlikely at least in my lifetime and I am 37.

Good point. I concede that one to you and do admit that that is a spelling error. But it doesn't change the fact that a diamond is a square. I'm sorry but it just seems dumb to call it such.

Sorry but proper terminology is the key. Baseball is played on a diamond. That is a cold hard fact. Those who say square shows themselves to have zero knowledge of Baseball.

I'm not sure if this is a joke or not, but to make a legitimate answer, not a "Well, we named it, so ha. America is teh roXX0rz!" It would appear that someone named it in the first place to denote the "best team in the world," because baseball was most common in the United States, and the name stuck. It's somewhat similar to an ungainly term in a language. It's existence is unfortunate, but people have become so accustomed to using it, that an attempt to change it would look foolish, and be far worse than the original term.

Also, most sports were first made for playing, then for watching. Example, crew. Watching boats on television isn't great, what, they're boats, rowing, no scoring, no violence, not much appeal to the average sports audience, at least not the one around me. Being on the shores is more fun because you can yell and scream and ring cowbells to cheer on your team. But being in the boat is the most fun because well, that's where all the action is, you ask yourself if you can actually pass the boat ahead of you. Same with baseball, though I never played it, sitting in the ballpark with friends or family is much better than watching television, because you're there, not just watching what someone felt like editing together.

Yep, just my opinions there.

Thank you for a very intelligent, non aggressive post.

Trilby63;12874066']You do realise that this guy has not made one serious post in this thread, right? I mean, seriously..

Oh i'm deadly serious. I'm fighting for my country here, for my flag, for my people, for my sports, and for my President.(in my mind Obama is president already so it's ok i'm not talking crazy)

I'm being very serious. What, you think i'm not being serious just because i'm from a blue state and i'm being patriotic?

Well perhaps you need to visit the following links before you keep discriminating just becaus i'm from a blue state, we really aren't that different:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNCLomrqIN8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56-m8wx1mwo

Sorry but proper terminology is the key. Baseball is played on a diamond. That is a cold hard fact. Those who say square shows themselves to have zero knowledge of Baseball.

My knowledge of baseball would be greater were it not such a boring sport.

HOw does one become a cheese eating surrender monkey if he is from the UNITED STATES? Leave please before the intelligence of this thread crumbles further.

This thread never had any intelligence. AndI dare say you're not giving it any either.

I'm not sure if this is a joke or not, but to make a legitimate answer, not a "Well, we named it, so ha. America is teh roXX0rz!" It would appear that someone named it in the first place to denote the "best team in the world," because baseball was most common in the United States, and the name stuck. It's somewhat similar to an ungainly term in a language. It's existence is unfortunate, but people have become so accustomed to using it, that an attempt to change it would look foolish, and be far worse than the original term.

Also, most sports were first made for playing, then for watching. Example, crew. Watching boats on television isn't great, what, they're boats, rowing, no scoring, no violence, not much appeal to the average sports audience, at least not the one around me. Being on the shores is more fun because you can yell and scream and ring cowbells to cheer on your team. But being in the boat is the most fun because well, that's where all the action is, you ask yourself if you can actually pass the boat ahead of you. Same with baseball, though I never played it, sitting in the ballpark with friends or family is much better than watching television, because you're there, not just watching what someone felt like editing together.

Yep, just my opinions there.


oh stop being so freaking thoughtful and just tell us whether or not the US owns rowing.

And Davenport. We have alot of star tennis players and not just on the ladies side either.
But you don't have the best.

My knowledge of baseball would be greater were it not such a boring sport.

maybe if you attend a game and not watch it on TV (trust me, it is better in person than on the tube) then maybe you will find it more interesting.

I'm serious. We have Tiger and Sharapova so Golf and Tennis are ours.

On the very slim chance that you can be educated...the answer is no. It is not yours.

The origins of specific sporting events belong solely to the places and people where they originated from, not to those who have able players of said sports. To say that it is so is simply excuses for theft of credit.

maybe if you attend a game and not watch it on TV (trust me, it is better in person than on the tube) then maybe you will find it more interesting.

Yeah...but i am sufficiently happy with watching Rugby and Football and Tennis.

Since when was NSG supposed to be a place for serious discussion?

I'm being serious...

HOw does one become a cheese eating surrender monkey if he is from the UNITED STATES? Leave please before the intelligence of this thread crumbles further.

If each state had to adopt another country which is most like it, then Pennsylvania would adopt France because the Phillies fail.

On the very slim chance that you can be educated...the answer is no. It is not yours.

The origins of specific sporting events belong solely to the places and people where they originated from, not to those who have able players of said sports. To say that it is so is simply excuses for theft of credit.

no just no

sport does not belong to the country that created it, it belongs to the country that makes the most of it.

Oh i'm deadly serious. I'm fighting for my country here, for my flag, for my people, for my sports, and for my President.(in my mind Obama is president already so it's ok i'm not talking crazy)

I'm being very serious. What, you think i'm not being serious just because i'm from a blue state and i'm being patriotic?

Well perhaps you need to visit the following links before you keep discriminating just becaus i'm from a blue state, we really aren't that different:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNCLomrqIN8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56-m8wx1mwo
i thought we were talking about sports, not flags or countries.

no just no

sport does not belong to the country that created it, it belongs to the country that makes the most of it.

...can I extend this argument to software use then? And other intellectual property arguments.

no just no

sport does not belong to the country that created it, it belongs to the country that makes the most of it.

alright, i'm just fed up with this discussion of who owns what sport. From now on, golf and tennis belong to Andorra. Anyone why objects will be banned from playing or watching any sports for as long as I believe is necessary.

oh stop being so freaking thoughtful and just tell us whether or not the US owns rowing.

No, the US doesn't own rowing, but if we wanted to we would, we just don't want to, your country can have it.

But you don't have the best.

Federer has the heart and the soul of an american. He's american, just not officially, and techniclly, and he doesn't know it.

On the very slim chance that you can be educated...the answer is no. It is not yours.

The origins of specific sporting events belong solely to the places and people where they originated from, not to those who have able players of said sports. To say that it is so is simply excuses for theft of credit.

Wrong. My logic is better. We own a sport if we own it so to speak. And by own i mean dominate.

i thought we were talking about sports, not flags or countries.

I like to go on tangents sometimes.

...can I extend this argument to software use then? And other intellectual property arguments.

No, only i am allowed to go on tangents.


And surprisingly, i'm 20 minutes late for a trial that i forgot about and have barely prepared for. So i have to go, then after that, this afternoon i have some Obama campaign work to do, so this is my last post of the day :(

...can I extend this argument to software use then? And other intellectual property arguments.

oh im sorry, you obviously dont understand the usage of the world "own" in this context.

no we dont have a copyright and cannot charge royalties to anyone around the world who plays golf, baseball, tennis, football, auto racing, basketball, or beach volleyball.

we just own them.

No, the US doesn't own rowing, but if we wanted to we would, we just don't want to, your country can have it.


is that true or do you just not know anything about rowing?

im only asking. some of those ivy league colleges kick ass in rowing.

no we dont have a copyright and cannot charge royalties to anyone around the world who plays golf, baseball, tennis, football, auto racing, basketball, or beach volleyball.

we just own them.
You weren't listening when I said golf and tennis belong to andorra, were you? I'm sorry, but we'll have to remove the sports channels from your TV now.

What are us europeans then?

Commies.

Wrong. My logic is better. We own a sport if we own it so to speak. And by own i mean dominate.

Please clarify.


Wrong. My logic is better. We own (ownership) a sport if we own (are better at it than others) it so to speak. And by own i mean dominate.

Or


Wrong. My logic is better. We own (dominate) a sport if we own (are better at it than others) it so to speak. And by own i mean dominate.

Commies.

And how are we commies?

I skipped pages 2 through 4 and still see this thread is as terrible as it was then. Just a bunch of people arguing what can't be argued.

You weren't listening when I said golf and tennis belong to andorra, were you? I'm sorry, but we'll have to remove the sports channels from your TV now.

tsk tsk, you are not the boss of sports.

the only sports channels i want on my tv are the ones that show poker tournaments.

I skipped pages 2 through 4 and still see this thread is as terrible as it was then. Just a bunch of people arguing what can't be argued.

What do you mean "can't be argued" anything can be argued on NSG!

We have the Toronto Blue Jays from Canada for 1. And for 2 look at the team rosters of any MLB team. The best players from all over the world come to play American MLB. Dominicans, Cubans, Japanese, Venezuelans and others all come here to make it in the big leagues.

When they have burned out in MLB, they go play exposition games in Japan and elsewhere cuz they know the only real competition is in the US. So you other countries can have your world cup of soccer but since we invented it, we get the world series of baseball.

tsk tsk, you are not the boss of sports.

aw, jeez, I thought you'd have at least some sense of humour.

This thread->:upyours:

Me->:headbang:

ALL SPORTS ARE STUPID AND ILLOGICAL!! FACE IT!!

This thread->:upyours:

Me->:headbang:

ALL SPORTS ARE STUPID AND ILLOGICAL!! FACE IT!!

Um, i don't understand your post. Could you please translateit to english?

This thread->:upyours:

Me->:headbang:

ALL SPORTS ARE STUPID AND ILLOGICAL!! FACE IT!!

Illogical? Exercise, adrenaline, friendship, etc are perfectly logical reasons

And how are we commies?
You and all your socialist commie policies.

You and all your socialist commie policies.

such as?

I was wondering what the hell was killing all those kittens and why baby Jesus was crying in the corner...

It's this fucking thread!

Thanks a bunch you guys! 101 dead kittens already and another one dies every time you post in this thread.

I was wondering what the hell was killing all those kittens and why baby Jesus was crying in the corner...

It's this fucking thread!

Thanks a bunch you guys! 101 dead kittens already and another one dies every time you post in this thread.

Can you prove that posting here kills kittens?

Oh, and as for baby jesus, i couln't care kess what he thinks.

This thread is hilarious. The display of illogical arguments and unnecessary patriotism is astounding. Why do sports discussions bring out this crap?

Oh, and as for baby jesus, i couln't care kess what he thinks.
No? You seem to be a Pole. Isn't he your king? At the very least he is the son of your queen, so you might want to start caring.

No? You seem to be a Pole. Isn't he your king? At the very least he is the son of your queen, so you might want to start caring.

WTF? Our King? No. Poland doesn't have a king. It's a republic.

The only teams you have playing are American and Canadian. That is not the 'world' series. I don't care if you have players from all over the world, the UEFA cup has players from all over the world, but it is still called the United European Football Associasion cup, not the World cup. The actual world cup (of football) does involve the world, with countries as far apart as Sengal, Switzerland and Singapore competing. Its just silly to call your tournment the world series just because you are the only ones who take baseball seriously enough to have a large scale tournment. So please defend yourselves and give me a descent reason why you shouldn't rename your tournment, and not one that is just "Its ours, we want to name it that" etc because if any other country did that you would be fuming. So do you actually have a decent reason for keeping it that way.

Who cares what it's name is? Is it really that annoying to you that you need it renamed? Are you losing sleep at night because it's called the "World Series"? If the answer to that last one is yes then I would suggest a doctor's appointment.

Canada is your little brother who kicked your ass ever time you tried to invade...and even burnt your white house. Yeah Canada sure seems to be okay with being the little brother.

That was actualy england, since it was still a colony at that point. and we burned qubec(I think).

The pads in football don't really do shit, I've seen people crippled play football, they only make you hit harder.

WTF? Our King? No. Poland doesn't have a king. It's a republic.Ok. A honorary king. The same way Mary is the honorary queen. I read the resolution didn't go through, though. Seems like you are stuck with Mary (Jesus is way cooler though).

I'd like to rent the ad space you have in your sig... How much is it? "I'm a nincompoop" seems appropriate.

Ok. A honorary king. The same way Mary is the honorary queen. I read the resolution didn't go through, though. Seems like you are stuck with Mary (Jesus is way cooler though).

Actually, I don't think that this declaratiion is valid anymore. The kingom of poland was something else. Now we have a republic.

I'd like to rent the ad space you have in your sig... How much is it? "I'm a nincompoop" seems appropriate.
Your Soul. Aditionally, all ads placed in my sig must be signed with the name of the person placing it there.

aw, jeez, I thought you'd have at least some sense of humour.

Oh, the irony. :p

Oh, the irony. :p
I was afraid to say that. ;)

Maybe it has something to do with language skills, tho.

They thought Britain and Australia would also adopt baseball...forgetting it's a game for ladies--no offense.

One baseball myth that just won't die is that the "World Series" was named for the New York World newspaper, which supposedly sponsored the earliest contests. It didn't, and it wasn't.

In fact, the postseason series between the AL and NL champs was originally known as the "Championship of the World" or "World's Championship Series." That was shortened through usage to "World's Series" and finally to "World Series."

This usage can be traced through the annual baseball guides. Spalding's Base Ball Guide for 1887 reported the results of the 1886 postseason series between Chicago, champions of the National League, and St. Louis, champions of the American Association, under the heading "The World's Championship." As the editor noted, the two leagues "both entitle their championship contests each season as those for the base ball championship of the United States," so a more grandiose name was required to describe the postseason showdown between the two "champions of the United States."

But the Spalding Guide -- which, after all, was published by one of the world's largest sporting goods companies, with a vested interest in bringing baseball to other lands -- had grander ambitions. By 1890, the Spalding Guide was explaining that "[t]he base ball championship of the United States necessarily includes that of the entire world, though the time will come when Australia will step in as a rival, and after that country will come Great Britain; but all that is for the future."

This didn't happen, but the name "World's Championship Series" stuck. Reporting on the first modern postseason series, the Red Sox-Pirates battle of 1903, the 1904 Reach Guide called it the "World's Championship Series." By 1912, Reach's headline spoke of the "World's Series," while editor Francis Richter's text still referred to the "World's Championship Series." The Reach Guide switched from "World's Series" to "World Series" in 1931, retaining the modern usage through its merger with the Spalding Guide and through its final issue in 1941. The separately-edited Spalding Guide used "World's Series" through 1916, switching to "World Series" in the 1917 edition.

The Spalding-Reach Guide was replaced as Major League Baseball's semi-official annual by the Sporting News Guide, first published in 1942. The Sporting News Guide used "World's Series" from 1942 through 1963, changing to "World Series" in the 1964 edition.

Moreover, the New York World never claimed any connection with postseason baseball. The World was a tabloid much given to flamboyant self-promotion. If it had been involved in any way with sponsoring a championship series, the fact would have been emblazoned across its sports pages for months. I reviewed every issue of the World for the months leading up to the 1903 and 1905 World's Championship Series -- there's not a word suggesting any link between the paper and the series.

Source (http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=ApN.7MVT65mjq4HP425H4MEjzKIX?qid=20070122082449AAYMB9N)

That was actualy england, since it was still a colony at that point. and we burned qubec(I think).


You didn't(I think). :P

AND you people really should start calling "football" by it's proper name. We all know it's soccer, time to admit it. And you people really should quit Soccer, Cricket and all the different types of rugby you play and to make up for it you should start up Baseball, Football and Basketball.



Fail troll is fail.


Anyway, why is american football called that? Hands are used mainly..... silly americans.

You didn't(I think). :P


Then it was some other canadian city.

EDIT: It was Toronto.

It's appropriate to call it the World Series because the players on the teams definitely represent the world.

Look at the future's game last week. Most of the players in the game came from a place outside of the USA.

My own Chicago White Sox have players and coaches from 8 separate countries. Most of the top prospects in any team's farm system today are from a place outside of the USA.

The World Series is appropriately named for the players are the best anywhere in the world. Sure I hear about the Japanese leagues, but they aren't as good as MLB teams. Their teams are certainly better than AAA affiliates, but they aren't superior to most of the 30 MLB teams.

Afterall, the best Japanese players are coming to America to play in the MLB. Sure they have had some success, but their numbers in MLB are much lower than what they had in Japan. Look at Tadahito Iguchi, Kaz Matsui, and Dice-K. Sure they are doing well, but their overall numbers are down in America vs. their numbers in Japan.

The only teams you have playing are American and Canadian. That is not the 'world' series. I don't care if you have players from all over the world, the UEFA cup has players from all over the world, but it is still called the United European Football Associasion cup, not the World cup. The actual world cup (of football) does involve the world, with countries as far apart as Sengal, Switzerland and Singapore competing. Its just silly to call your tournment the world series just because you are the only ones who take baseball seriously enough to have a large scale tournment. So please defend yourselves and give me a descent reason why you shouldn't rename your tournment, and not one that is just "Its ours, we want to name it that" etc because if any other country did that you would be fuming. So do you actually have a decent reason for keeping it that way.

One thing I've realised from living here is that the US thinks it is the world so they see no inherent conflict with such a name.

It's appropriate to call it the World Series because the players on the teams definitely represent the world.

Look at the future's game last week. Most of the players in the game came from a place outside of the USA.

My own Chicago White Sox have players and coaches from 8 separate countries. Most of the top prospects in any team's farm system today are from a place outside of the USA.

The World Series is appropriately named for the players are the best anywhere in the world. Sure I hear about the Japanese leagues, but they aren't as good as MLB teams. Their teams are certainly better than AAA affiliates, but they aren't superior to most of the 30 MLB teams.

Afterall, the best Japanese players are coming to America to play in the MLB. Sure they have had some success, but their numbers in MLB are much lower than what they had in Japan. Look at Tadahito Iguchi, Kaz Matsui, and Dice-K. Sure they are doing well, but their overall numbers are down in America vs. their numbers in Japan.

its a failed argument because in Europe there are footballers from all around the world yet they still don't call it world this or that.

I'll have you know that every MLB team in the world is eligible for the World Series.

You want in? Buy an MLB team. :)

I'll have you know that every MLB team in the world is eligible for the World Series.

You want in? Buy an MLB team. :)
We have a winner here.

BTW, the Flubs are on the block right now. If you want to buy them from Tribune Co., all you need to do is pony up more money than Mark Cuban offers (probably in the excess of $600 million). You will also have to put in about $120 million more to buy the piece of shit stadium that's falling apart at Clark and Addison. Oh yeah, you also have to find a decent GM because Jim Hendry is a fucking moron.

(see I can turn any thread into a 'fuck the cubs' thread)

its a failed argument because in Europe there are footballers from all around the world yet they still don't call it world this or that.
They could do so if they wanted to. Of course there already is the World Cup.

As for Baseball, the best players seem to come from Latin America. If you look at the Domican Republic and Venezuela, their best leagues are what major leaguers call the "winter leagues." They don't have the best talent. All they really are is a bunch of MLB rookies and minor league prospects trying to get in some work in between November and Spring Training so they can show scouts what they have and hone in their skills. Most good pitchers avoid the leagues like the plague because their need to rest their arms after throwing 180+ innings during the regular season.

For one...whoever first named American football "football" is a moron. Football (soccer) actually uses the feet...a lot.
For two...baseball can be alright to watch, rugby is quite cool to watch, NASCAR sucks to watch, F1 (surprised it hasn't come up) is mildly interesting to watch, football is quite entertaining to watch, and American football is boring.
For three...whoever was posting earlier that Canada is the US's bitch, I suggest you go look up the War of 1812.

This thread is made of fail.

You can make any sport seem boring by grossly oversimplifying it.

And who honestly gives a fuck if it's called the world series? You don't even give a shit about baseball so why whine?:rolleyes:

Stop whining

Flame baiting,... and ... who cares?

Next thing we'll have is a thread titled "HUMANS! Rename the Miss "Universe" pageant.

Flame baiting,... and ... who cares?

Next thing we'll have is a thread titled "HUMANS! Rename the Miss "Universe" pageant.

We Gelgameks are repulsed by your concept of beauty!!

We Gelgameks are repulsed by your concept of beauty!!
The Gelgamek vagina is 3 feet wide and lined with pointy spikes. How the hell are we supposed to have sex with that?

The Gelgamek vagina is 3 feet wide and lined with pointy spikes. How the hell are we supposed to have sex with that?
Just plunge in like they do..?

Flame baiting,... and ... who cares?

Next thing we'll have is a thread titled "HUMANS! Rename the Miss "Universe" pageant.

We Gelgameks are repulsed by your concept of beauty!!

The Gelgamek vagina is 3 feet wide and lined with pointy spikes. How the hell are we supposed to have sex with that?

not to worry.

while the universe part is problematical, only humans are referred to as MISS so miss universe implies only human females. if a race of humanity is found on a planet orbiting a distant star, they will be immediately invited to join the pageant.

Flame baiting,... and ... who cares?
we haven't seen any-one flame the OP in all this pages, so it's safe to say this is not flamebait.

Next thing we'll have is a thread titled "HUMANS! Rename the Miss "Universe" pageant.
Right now this is unlike as all current generalites are humans. Except maybe LG.

I'll have you know that every MLB team in the world is eligible for the World Series.

You want in? Buy an MLB team. :)

With your normal humor you cut to the core of the matter ...

It is a simple matter anyone in the world is welcome to join they just have to have the prerequisites not our fault you dont care enough to join it

Hell I dont care enough to watch either way so meh

For one...whoever first named American football "football" is a moron. Football (soccer) actually uses the feet...a lot.
For two...baseball can be alright to watch, rugby is quite cool to watch, NASCAR sucks to watch, F1 (surprised it hasn't come up) is mildly interesting to watch, football is quite entertaining to watch, and American football is boring.
For three...whoever was posting earlier that Canada is the US's bitch, I suggest you go look up the War of 1812.

They kick the ball in north American football.

Canada didn't exist in 1812.

Canada didn't exist in 1812.

What was there in 1812 then? Some Ocean?

For one...whoever first named American football "football" is a moron. Football (soccer) actually uses the feet...a lot.

American football has changed over the years, originally you were not allowed to pass the ball, you had to kick it to get it anywhere, if you wanted it down field you either had to run or drop kick it and hope it gets there.

They kick the ball in north American football.

Canada didn't exist in 1812.
They kick it what, 10-15% of the plays, at most. Higher in Canadian-rules American football. And that's just nitpicking.

They kick it what, 10-15% of the plays, at most. Higher in Canadian-rules American football. And that's just nitpicking.

American football has changed over the years, originally you were not allowed to pass the ball, you had to kick it to get it anywhere, if you wanted it down field you either had to run or drop kick it and hope it gets there.

^.^

Why cares how you call it. besides, a baseball diamond is square, isn't it.

Wow. A ball gets hit with a club. How exciting. :rolleyes:

Do you actually think that's all there is to it?

First of all, that ball can be coming in at close to 100mph, and be thrown so that it curves or dips in an unpredictible manner. A batter has less than a quarter of a second to make the decision on swinging at a pitch.

Assume he hits one, and it's in play. Then then get to see the defence play. Watching a third baseman grab a line drive moving at well over 100mph, or seeing an outfielder diving and catching the ball an inch off the grass, or climbing the wall to steal a homerun? Beautiful.

But our batter reaches first. He then can try to steal second, pitting his reaction time and running speed against the pitcher and catcher's ability to read his moves and react. Knowing this catcher leads the league in throwing out runners, he stays put.

Next batter smacks a ball along towards left field. Shortstop makes a running grab, flips it to the second baseman who throws onto first over the sliding baserunner, completing a double play!

Yeah, baseball is just hitting a ball with a club. Moron. Soccer is just a guy kicking a ball, right?

i say we just ban all sports, theyre a waste of time and money

i say we just ban all sports, theyre a waste of time and money

You really can't see any logical reason to play sports?

If America and Canada were in prison, America would be Canada's bitch

As to all this sprot nonsense, America is a new country, so it had to make up new sports and stuff so it could win things, that the answer. And I know it's true and no one can tell me any different.

*nods

You really can't see any logical reason to play sports?

Playing golf and/or tennis is great for your career...

If America and Canada were in prison, America would be Canada's bitch


how do you figure that?

america and canada would work together to run the place.

america and canada always work on the same team. we're close allies that way.

i say we just ban all sports, theyre a waste of time and money

Yes. Some find sports entertaining. Ban them. Some people like movies, plays, and music. Ban them too. Ban everything!!!

I guess they named it that because it was the only official baseball championship in the world.

I understand where you are coming from by it being American teams playing each other and it's called the World Series and how the World Cup actually has countries from all over the world. It's been this way since the beginning.. it's not hurting anyone.. it's a sport.

Soon maybe other countries will compete in it also and then it will actually be 'world'. Since Canada is involved (I wasn't even aware Canada was in it btw..) maybe others are not too far off?

I mean they couldn't rename it the American Series Championships or the National Series Championships because the two leagues are already named American and National (don't ask me why.. I do not know lol), unless they renamed the leagues. Because naming it either of those would seem like they are favoring a league. Yeah I guess they could come up with a neutral name.. but why? As I said.. it's a sport.. they are games. No big deal about the name. IMO.

The only teams you have playing are American and Canadian. That is not the 'world' series. I don't care if you have players from all over the world, the UEFA cup has players from all over the world, but it is still called the United European Football Associasion cup, not the World cup. The actual world cup (of football) does involve the world, with countries as far apart as Sengal, Switzerland and Singapore competing. Its just silly to call your tournment the world series just because you are the only ones who take baseball seriously enough to have a large scale tournment. So please defend yourselves and give me a descent reason why you shouldn't rename your tournment, and not one that is just "Its ours, we want to name it that" etc because if any other country did that you would be fuming. So do you actually have a decent reason for keeping it that way.

The defense is quite simple: tradition. Do you know how many things are misnamed but keep the names because of a century or more of name recognition? I agree with you -- I think the World Series should either change its name or include teams that *gasp* might be better than the best US-fielded teams (a sizeable chunk of whose players can't give interviews without translators, anyway).

However, I'm not deliberately dumb enough to demand that it change. Why? It just doesn't matter, that's why. I'd rather get my country to change a few far more important things than the name of the World Series. People who take shit like this too seriously need help.

Wow. A ball gets hit with a club. How exciting. :rolleyes:

Are you implying that you don't like other ball-and-bat sports? Like polo? Like cricket? :eek:
Cricket is made of the awesome.

First of all.... GOLF isn't American you thick incompetent imbecile.

Secondly if Football is soooo very slow, then how can someone as well educated and opinionated as yourself deign to watch american football where plays last naught but 5 seconds and then they have a minute and a half break. The game is only an hour long but you morons make it last 3.

Is there a reason you need to call names, or do you have a point somewhere in there?

i say we just ban all sports, theyre a waste of time and money

Half right. Better would be to somehow regulate or eliminate the insanity that is corporate sponsorship and the greed of owners and players in professional leagues. Nobody should be signing contracts for $250 million to play a kid's game, I don't care HOW good they are.

Still more shameful is the way owners and corporate sponsors manage to wring hundreds of millions of dollars worth of tax breaks, concessions and stadiums out of local and state governments. Seattle's Safeco Field and Qwest Field were paid for by half or more of state, county and municipal tax funds. There are some more details about that and some links in the following essay I wrote for a local newspaper [annotations in brackets for non-Seattleites]:

So long, SuperSonics.

My family moved here in March of 1979, just in time to watch Gus Williams, Jack Sikma, Paul Silas, "Downtown" Freddie Brown, DJ [Dennis Johnson, R.I.P.], JJ [John Johnson], and Lenny Wilkens beat the Washington Bullets for the NBA Championship. To date, Seattle's ONLY two pro sports championships have come from basketball, and it took some talented and hard-working women to win the second one [WNBA's Seattle Storm, 2004].

The Sonics have been in town since 1967, pre-dating the Seahawks and Mariners by about a decade. It would be a shame to lose them, or worse, lose them and be awarded an expansion franchise, which, let's face it, the NBA doesn't need. When you've got teams in Memphis and Charlotte, you've got too many teams. The Sonics at 40 are the elder statesmen of Seattle pro sports (yes, we had MLB's Seattle Pilots, but I'm talking consistent presence).

A lot of folks are going to pile on Howard Schultz [former Sonics owner] about this, and I'm not sure there isn't some legitimate claim to him being a kind of villain. But if I was poised to make a 75 percent return on my investment on a team that's drafted itself into the cellar and gotten rid of the one coach that knew what to do with those rotten picks [Nate MacMillan, now coaching in Portland]...I'm not so sure I wouldn't cut the Sonics loose.

The folks from Oklahoma City [who bought the team from Schultz] are not dumb: they've paid lip service to a final season or two and an attempt to get a new arena out of Seattle and even the State of Washington -- THAT much they learned from the Ken Behring [a former Seahawks owner who tried to move the team to LA in 1996] debacle -- don't say "move" until the trucks are already on the freeway. If they're really smart, however, they'll get rid of Wally Walker [now former Sonics GM]. The man couldn't lead his way out of a wet paper bag and the trades and draft choices in the last five years prove it. I mean come on -- we drafted a kid from SENEGAL?!? Since Ray Allen when has the front office lifted a finger to get anyone good to play for Seattle (and now Gary Payton has his ring and we have...)? And who lets a coach who took a team from the expectations of cellar dweller in 2004-2005 to the second round of the playoffs get away to Portland? The same Portland team who also managed to wrest away the one man in the front office who knew what he was doing, Bob "Trader Bob" Whitsitt.

As a lifelong Sonics fan, I've endured everything from Shawn Kemp's legendary choke at the charity stripe and the infamous 8-seed upset to the Nuggets in 1993-94 [where Dikembe Mutombo famously cried in victory on our home court] , to Jack Sikma's hair, to Paul Westphal as coach (the only person to coach the Sonics with less skill than Wally Walker) and a seemingly endless series of no-killer-instinct game seven playoff losses. There's too much history here to let the team go. Lenny Wilkens, Slick Watts, Gus Williams, Tom Chambers, Dale Ellis, Detlef Schrempf, Gary Payton, and lots more Seattle greats are part of the long history of a team in a great city.

However, if the city or state wouldn't pony up any more than $50M for a remodel of Key Arena, what makes anyone think they'll do more for the group from OKC? I don't think they SHOULD do any more. Look at Howard Schultz's profit -- bought the team for $200M and sold it for $350M! All without having to do much of anything to the arena and being far better than well insulated from any misfortune by his other small business [he owns Starbucks].

The Seahawks have a great owner in Paul Allen, that's how THEY stayed in town. The Mariners pulled an improbable winning season out of their...hats...to bypass a no-vote from the citizenry on a sales tax increase to stay in town. Both Safeco Field ($517M) and Qwest Field ($430M plus litigation fees for not being transparent with public funds via public disclosure) are costing taxpayers untold millions in interest, and multimillionaire owners have very little to risk. Where's our Mark Cuban?

I'd like to think that if the Sonics pull out a winning season and do damage in the playoffs that public sentiment would swell for them to stay. But looking at freeway needs, the Alaskan Way Viaduct replacement mess, the Monorail debacle, and the Sound Transit public money bloodletting [this list represents the horrid transportation situation in Seattle], I seriously doubt the Sonics are going to be on anyone's to-do list. We were lucky to keep the Seahawks...that is, if luck involves deals so shady that the public funds paid out in fines to keep them secret by running afoul of the state's Public Disclosure Act ran up to over $1.1M (see "The Cost of Secrecy" in the August 3, 2005 issue of Seattle Weekly or follow this link (http://www.seattleweekly.com/news/0531/050803_news_records.php)). I don't think taxpayers need any more of that kind of "luck".

The Sonics front office lost a great coach, traded poorly (overall), and apparently don't watch enough college basketball to draft intelligently. We haven't had a center since...aw hell, we've NEVER had a center. I guess what I'm saying is that since pro basketball has effectively become five games of one-on-one happening at the same time, I've been having much more fun watching college hoops (notably Lorenzo Romar's improvements to the [University of Washington] Huskies and Gonzaga's [in Spokane] rise to prominence). In fact, when the Seattle pro basketball teams leave after next season...which I'm suuuure will be worth watching...[it wasn't], I'll miss the Storm a lot more than the Sonics. Good role models for young women are hard to come by, and the NBA as role models? Please.

I will be sad to see them go, and they WILL go, but there's an upside. My Nate MacMillan no. 10 jersey will instantly increase in value.

I'm wondernig how playing 40 minutes non stop, then a short break, and then another 40 minutes non stop is not playing hard.

Sharapova is such an american name isn't it? It's almost like she actually might be american. but she isn't. You are retarded.

KNOCK IT OFF.

This thread is hilarious. The display of illogical arguments and unnecessary patriotism is astounding. Why do sports discussions bring out this crap?

Dunno. You'd have to ask the OP who decided to trot out the same tired old arthritic pony about "Drop the World Series name, it's not played all over the World."

its a failed argument because in Europe there are footballers from all around the world yet they still don't call it world this or that.

WORLD CUP?
Hmmmm.

im pretty sure that "the world series" is owned by MLB not the united states of america.

therefore its up to MLB to keep or change the name, not congress.

SPOT ON. Please address all complaints about the name to Major League Baseball. That's a business. A business with a trademark that's been around for over a century. Do you think any business would give up a name with that much cachet? Nope. World Series it is, then, regardless of how woefully inaccurate it may be.

While we're on the subject; it's football, not soccer.

Yes it is. However, when the sport was introduced to the USA, there was already a sport called football which was well on its way to becoming the dominant sport in the nation with regard to attention paid. Sorry, but if US football had the name first, you're out of luck.


And as for Golf, um hello, we have Tiger, and as long as we have Tiger then golf is american. If you people make a basketballer better then LeBron then i'll give you Basketball etc.

Maria Sharapova lives here, and that's all that counts so Tennis is ours. And as for Hockey, we don't like Hockey either, and it's Canadian more then it is American, but Canadia is our lil bro so that makes Hockey ours.

You keep bringing up Sharapova like she's some great player. She won Wimbledon ONCE. Between the Williams sisters, they have SIX Wimbledon titles. Just because you like masturbating to Maria doesn't make her great, just like it didn't make Kournikova great (though at least Sharapova's won a major -- Kournikova couldn't even manage that between bouts of blowing Enrique Iglesias and posing for advertisements).

I notice that you don't seem to mention any men's tennis players from the US who are any good. Seems to me that you can't "own" a sport if only one half of the game even has any Americans in it. The guy you're thinking of is Roger Federer, who just won his FIFTH Wimbledon and his ELEVENTH major. He's from Switzerland -- so that means, by your idiotic reasoning, that the Swiss, in fact, "own" tennis because Federer's serve alone would snap Sharapova like a matchstick. Come back to the thread when you have something intelligent to say, please, your defecative oratory is stinking up the place.

The "wall of fat unathletic people" is just one aspect of many when it comes to the poetic battle offense and defense plays on the battlefield. And as for the equipment? I don't mind, if it enables players to give it their all and hesitate less then i'm all for it.

If i had the choice between my players playing with no equipment and going in with only 70% willpower, energy, strength etc, or being fully padded up and going at it 100%, then i would choose the latter every time.


"Poetic"? It seems the earlier masturbation to tennis queens spilled over to the rest of your subscription to Sports Illustrated. It's a great game, but let's not get maudlin.

The equipment still makes them pussies compared to rugby and Aussie Rules players. Dude, I'M AN AMERICAN, and you're embarrassing the rest of us, so please occupy your cakehole with something else.

WORLD CUP?
Hmmmm.
i think he's referring to players not countries. For instance the English football league must include players from every inhabited continent and a sizeable proportion of the countries of the world, but they don't find the need to call it a 'world' competition. Unlike the world cup, which considering that it includes more countries than any other sporting event bar none, more than the united nations, and 202 more than the world series, does actually qualify for the 'world' title.

You keep bringing up Sharapova like she's some great player. She won Wimbledon ONCE. Between the Williams sisters, they have SIX Wimbledon titles. Just because you like masturbating to Maria doesn't make her great, just like it didn't make Kournikova great (though at least Sharapova's won a major -- Kournikova couldn't even manage that between bouts of blowing Enrique Iglesias and posing for advertisements).

I notice that you don't seem to mention any men's tennis players from the US who are any good. Seems to me that you can't "own" a sport if only one half of the game even has any Americans in it. The guy you're thinking of is Roger Federer, who just won his FIFTH Wimbledon and his ELEVENTH major. He's from Switzerland -- so that means, by your idiotic reasoning, that the Swiss, in fact, "own" tennis because Federer's serve alone would snap Sharapova like a matchstick. Come back to the thread when you have something intelligent to say, please, your defecative oratory is stinking up the place.


ya but cant we claim to own women's tennis and leave the men's tennis to europe?

and dont be so mean to westcoast. he made this thread very amusing with his over-the-top americanism.

You know in my neighbor town (Winston-Salem) they taxed the residents for the minor league baseball field.. team whatever... Now that is crazy.

ya but cant we claim to own women's tennis and leave the men's tennis to europe?

and dont be so mean to westcoast. he made this thread very amusing with his over-the-top americanism.

Provided you ask the women to stop bloody grunting after every shot, you're welcome to it.:D

They could do so if they wanted to. Of course there already is the World Cup.





WORLD CUP?
Hmmmm.

I was referring to football in Europe only. Even though footballers come from around the world to play in Europe its not referred in terms like "world", which is why IDFs point that MLB is made up of many players from other countries and thus terms like "world" are valid is flawed since its only played basically in the US. The World Cup is completely different since it is actually a competition between basically the whole world, not just one country or region.

ya but cant we claim to own women's tennis and leave the men's tennis to europe?

and dont be so mean to westcoast. he made this thread very amusing with his over-the-top americanism.

A) No, not according to WC's own logic. He said the US "owns" tennis simply because of Sharapova (2 Grand Slams, one of them Wimbledon). Using that palsied argument, I counter with Switzerland "owns" tennis because of Federer (11 Grand Slams, inclluding the last FIVE Wimbledons in a row).

B) Sorry, luv, but I live daily among that kind of Americanism. It isn't amusing to me.

You know in my neighbor town (Winston-Salem) they taxed the residents for the minor league baseball field.. team whatever... Now that is crazy.

Yikes! Tell me it was at least a AAA team!

Provided you ask the women to stop bloody grunting after every shot, you're welcome to it.:D

Makes me wonder if anyone's taken those grunts as sound samples and grafted them on to a porn soundtrack.

The men can be grunty, too, though. The women just seem more histrionic. It must have something to do with the relative pitch of the grunts.

What was there in 1812 then? Some Ocean?

I'm guessing an English Colony.

The only teams you have playing are American and Canadian. That is not the 'world' series. I don't care if you have players from all over the world, the UEFA cup has players from all over the world, but it is still called the United European Football Associasion cup, not the World cup. The actual world cup (of football) does involve the world, with countries as far apart as Sengal, Switzerland and Singapore competing. Its just silly to call your tournment the world series just because you are the only ones who take baseball seriously enough to have a large scale tournment. So please defend yourselves and give me a descent reason why you shouldn't rename your tournment, and not one that is just "Its ours, we want to name it that" etc because if any other country did that you would be fuming. So do you actually have a decent reason for keeping it that way.

I don't know where you're from, but I'm pretty sure I could pull the good old fashioned, "Our nation has saved your nation's sorry ass at some time" card.

Anyway, if you really care that much (which I'm hoping you don't) then I'd like to wish you goodluck at life.

I'm being serious...



If each state had to adopt another country which is most like it, then Pennsylvania would adopt France because the Phillies fail.

As a Pennsylvanian, I find that insulting. *slaps you with a white glove across the face*

Afterall, the best Japanese players are coming to America to play in the MLB. Sure they have had some success, but their numbers in MLB are much lower than what they had in Japan. Look at Tadahito Iguchi, Kaz Matsui, and Dice-K. Sure they are doing well, but their overall numbers are down in America vs. their numbers in Japan.

You forgot to mention about players like Ichiro Suzuki and Hideki Matsui coming from Japan to the US (BTW, Hideki just hit a home run). :)

Its our series we can call it whatever we like, accurate or not.

I don't know where you're from, but I'm pretty sure I could pull the good old fashioned, "Our nation has saved your nation's sorry ass at some time" card.

Anyway, if you really care that much (which I'm hoping you don't) then I'd like to wish you goodluck at life.

You could pull that argument, but if you did, it would be completely irrelevant, and would make you sound like a jackass. You didn't pull it, though, so you...don't. ;)

That was actualy england, since it was still a colony at that point. and we burned qubec(I think).

Toronto aka York at the time of its burning but everything else is 100% accurate.

The pads in football don't really do shit, I've seen people crippled play football, they only make you hit harder.

Could not agree more.

What was there in 1812 then? Some Ocean?

A British Possession that did not have independence until the 1860s and then full independence in the early 20th Century.

Could not agree more.

I'll agree with your agreement. Another example would be in UFC style competitions. Before they introduced gloves fighters would try to avoid hits to the head since there was a greater risk of breaking their hand. When the gloves came in the head became fair game

A British Possession that did not have independence until the 1860s and then full independence in the early 20th Century.

even if it wasn't independant, it was still Canada.

You could pull that argument, but if you did, it would be completely irrelevant, and would make you sound like a jackass. You didn't pull it, though, so you...don't. ;)

It's a last resort "Oh shit, I've lost the argument!" card. :p

It's a last resort "Oh shit, I've lost the argument!" card. :p

Understood. Heh.

You keep bringing up Sharapova like she's some great player. She won Wimbledon ONCE. Between the Williams sisters, they have SIX Wimbledon titles. Just because you like masturbating to Maria doesn't make her great, just like it didn't make Kournikova great (though at least Sharapova's won a major -- Kournikova couldn't even manage that between bouts of blowing Enrique Iglesias and posing for advertisements).

I notice that you don't seem to mention any men's tennis players from the US who are any good. Seems to me that you can't "own" a sport if only one half of the game even has any Americans in it. The guy you're thinking of is Roger Federer, who just won his FIFTH Wimbledon and his ELEVENTH major. He's from Switzerland -- so that means, by your idiotic reasoning, that the Swiss, in fact, "own" tennis because Federer's serve alone would snap Sharapova like a matchstick. Come back to the thread when you have something intelligent to say, please, your defecative oratory is stinking up the place.



"Poetic"? It seems the earlier masturbation to tennis queens spilled over to the rest of your subscription to Sports Illustrated. It's a great game, but let's not get maudlin.

The equipment still makes them pussies compared to rugby and Aussie Rules players. Dude, I'M AN AMERICAN, and you're embarrassing the rest of us, so please occupy your cakehole with something else.


Sharapova is ranked 2nd in the world, and was ranked 1st. So i think it is possible to like her for more then her looks. She is one of the best players in the world. She lives in america, so we own. And i don't masturbate to Sharapova, and if i did that wouldn't make her great, what makes her great is her rank.

And as for Federer, like i said earlier, he has the heart and soul of an american, he is american, even if he doesn't know it yet.

ya but cant we claim to own women's tennis and leave the men's tennis to europe?

and dont be so mean to westcoast. he made this thread very amusing with his over-the-top americanism.

I'm not being over the top, you don't want to see over the top, over the top brings grown men to tears.

A) No, not according to WC's own logic. He said the US "owns" tennis simply because of Sharapova (2 Grand Slams, one of them Wimbledon). Using that palsied argument, I counter with Switzerland "owns" tennis because of Federer (11 Grand Slams, inclluding the last FIVE Wimbledons in a row).

B) Sorry, luv, but I live daily among that kind of Americanism. It isn't amusing to me.

Yes it is amusing. Hail America. And Switzerland doesn't own anything. Federer is american, maybe not officially, maybe not techniclly, maybe not practiclly, but he is american.

As a Pennsylvanian, I find that insulting. *slaps you with a white glove across the face*

Go back to Philadelphia you cheese eating surrender monkey.

Sharapova is ranked 2nd in the world, and was ranked 1st. So i think it is possible to like her for more then her looks. She is one of the best players in the world. She lives in america, so we own. And i don't masturbate to Sharapova, and if i did that wouldn't make her great, what makes her great is her rank.

And as for Federer, like i said earlier, he has the heart and soul of an american, he is american, even if he doesn't know it yet.



I'm not being over the top, you don't want to see over the top, over the top brings grown men to tears.



Yes it is amusing. Hail America. And Switzerland doesn't own anything. Federer is american, maybe not officially, maybe not techniclly, maybe not practiclly, but he is american.



Go back to Philadelphia you cheese eating surrender monkey.

WTF lol

Nothing like basking in reflected glory to give oneself a false sense of accomplishment.:rolleyes:

Yikes! Tell me it was at least a AAA team!


I dunno what that is. If I remember tomorrow I will look it up. In case you want to.. the name is the Winston Salem Warthogs (http://www.warthogs.com/).

Who fucking cares?

my sentiments exactly...

This has turned into a "my country's sports players dicks are bigger" thread. Kind of funny, really.

This has turned into a "my country's sports players dicks are bigger" thread. Kind of funny, really.

well... depends on whether or not they're using steroids... :D

Booooo to steroids!

I dunno what that is. If I remember tomorrow I will look it up. In case you want to.. the name is the Winston Salem Warthogs (http://www.warthogs.com/).

Apparently (according to the link you posted) it's a Class A affiliate of the Chicago White Sox.

Sharapova is ranked 2nd in the world, and was ranked 1st. So i think it is possible to like her for more then her looks. She is one of the best players in the world. She lives in america, so we own. And i don't masturbate to Sharapova, and if i did that wouldn't make her great, what makes her great is her rank.

Uh...since when has the American Superiority Complex EVER proudly chanted "we're number two"? Sorry. I'll give you American by training and habitation. Russian by birth. Still not enough to "own" ALL of tennis, considering there's a whole men's side to the ATP.

And as for Federer, like i said earlier, he has the heart and soul of an american, he is american, even if he doesn't know it yet.

He has the personality of the Swiss, he could never be perceived as American, even if he had a heart and soul transplant. Once you're Swiss, you never recover. Federer is Swiss, will always be Swiss. Sorry.

I'm not being over the top, you don't want to see over the top, over the top brings grown men to tears.

Yes. Weeping for the future has that effect.

Yes it is amusing. Hail America. And Switzerland doesn't own anything. Federer is american, maybe not officially, maybe not techniclly, maybe not practiclly, but he is american.

This is a nice act you have going. New Mitanni does it better.

Go back to Philadelphia you cheese eating surrender monkey.

If the cheese involved is on a cheesesteak sammy, I surrender.

I dunno what that is. If I remember tomorrow I will look it up. In case you want to.. the name is the Winston Salem Warthogs (http://www.warthogs.com/).

The page you linked to says it. Class A. Funded by taxpayer dollars. That is truly sad.

This has turned into a "my country's sports players dicks are bigger" thread. Kind of funny, really.

Especially given that one of the dicks is Sharapova's.

Who fucking cares?

QFT

And as for Federer, like i said earlier, he has the heart and soul of an american, he is american, even if he doesn't know it yet.


Well, that confirms it. Yet another F.A.G. type doofus. Welcome to /ignore.

Especially given that one of the dicks is Sharapova's.

Now, someone just needs to upload evidence of this.;)

The only teams you have playing are American and Canadian. That is not the 'world' series. I don't care if you have players from all over the world, the UEFA cup has players from all over the world, but it is still called the United European Football Associasion cup, not the World cup. The actual world cup (of football) does involve the world, with countries as far apart as Sengal, Switzerland and Singapore competing. Its just silly to call your tournment the world series just because you are the only ones who take baseball seriously enough to have a large scale tournment. So please defend yourselves and give me a descent reason why you shouldn't rename your tournment, and not one that is just "Its ours, we want to name it that" etc because if any other country did that you would be fuming. So do you actually have a decent reason for keeping it that way.

The word "world" can, but need not necessarily, literally refer to the physical planet Earth in its entirety. The word "world" can also be used in in a far more generalized sense in reference to "a particular division of the earth," "the earth or a part of it," "a particular class of people, with common interests, aims," or "any sphere, realm, or domain, with all pertaining to it." (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/world)

Major League Baseball officiates over the sport of baseball in the United States and Canada. As such, Major League Baseball institutes a defined "sphere, realm, domain" or "world" pertaining to the sport of baseball. Major League Baseball's jurisdiction is it's "world" in the general sense. The "world series" is nothing more than a tournament that involves the entirety of Major League Baseball's jurisdiction. No claim is made explicitly or implicity that the MLB "world series" determines the best baseball team on Earth as the word "world" is not being used in that specific sense. The "world series" only claims to be finding the best team withing Major League Baseball's "world," "jurisdiction," "sphere, realm, or domain."

Neither Major League Baseball nor "Americans" are being elitist. They are simply using the word as defined in a legitimate fashion. Those who object need to better their understanding of the English language, and improve their vocabulary, with particular focus on the understanding that single words can have multiple definitions across specific and general purposes or meanings.

Now, someone just needs to upload evidence of this.;)

Holy hermaphrodites, Batman! Do you have any idea how much the tabloids/paparazzi would PAY for that evidence? The mind boggles.

The word "world" can, but need not necessarily, literally refer to the physical planet Earth in its entirety. The word "world" can also be used in in a far more generalized sense in reference to "a particular division of the earth," "the earth or a part of it," "a particular class of people, with common interests, aims," or "any sphere, realm, or domain, with all pertaining to it." (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/world)

Major League Baseball officiates over the sport of baseball in the United States and Canada. As such, Major League Baseball institutes a defined "sphere, realm, domain" or "world" pertaining to the sport of baseball. Major League Baseball's jurisdiction is it's "world" in the general sense. The "world series" is nothing more than a tournament that involves the entirety of Major League Baseball's jurisdiction. No claim is made explicitly or implicity that the MLB "world series" determines the best baseball team on Earth as the word "world" is not being used in that specific sense. The "world series" only claims to be finding the best team withing Major League Baseball's "world," "jurisdiction," "sphere, realm, or domain."

Neither Major League Baseball nor "Americans" are being elitist. They are simply using the word as defined in a legitimate fashion. Those who object need to better their understanding of the English language, and improve their vocabulary, with particular focus on the understanding that single words can have multiple definitions across specific and general purposes or meanings.

I don't think guys like Landis, Comiskey and Wrigley (I know they didn't start the WS, but guys like them did) had that nuanced a definition in mind, but very well reasoned.

Well, that confirms it. Yet another F.A.G. type doofus. Welcome to /ignore.

I'd say he was ore of the Sadisco Room type actually.

even if it wasn't independant, it was still Canada.

The land was Canada yes but Canada did not have an independent system of government.

Go back to Philadelphia you cheese eating surrender monkey.

HA! Goes to show you do not know Geography. I do not live in Philadelphia. I live in Lancaster City.

I'd say he was ore of the Sadisco Room type actually.

Sadisco Room, the guy going on and on about infidels but with sometimes amusing thread topics right?

You know in my neighbor town (Winston-Salem) they taxed the residents for the minor league baseball field.. team whatever... Now that is crazy.

The Warthogs are the primo Class A affiliate of the White Sox.

I was referring to football in Europe only. Even though footballers come from around the world to play in Europe its not referred in terms like "world", which is why IDFs point that MLB is made up of many players from other countries and thus terms like "world" are valid is flawed since its only played basically in the US. The World Cup is completely different since it is actually a competition between basically the whole world, not just one country or region.That's because some of the South American teams can rival the champions of the European Leagues. The European Leagues are certainly superior to MLS, but I its hard to make a for cretain case they are superior to some of the Latin leagues.

The three major Japanese baseball leagues are barely better than most AAA affiliates of MLB teams. Some aging MLB players who aren't good enough for MLB rosters will move to Japan so they can put in a few years. The only reason Japanese offensive numbers are so high is because the outfields are shallow and most teams play on turf in domes. (balls move quicker out of the infield)

The Japanese leagues are panicking because all of their good talent is moving to America. The Latin American countries don't even have their leagues during the MLB season. They make sure their leagues are used as winter leagues for players that range from Class A minor league to rookie MLB players.

No team anywhere in the world can field a team that can beat the World Series Champions. Find me a team in any other country that could top the rotation of Beckett, Willis, Burnett, and Pavano in 2003. Who could top Buehrle, Garland, Garcia, Contreras, and Hernandez in 2005? Who could top Schilling, Wakefield, Martinez, and Lowe in 2004? The fact remains that the cream of the crop from every country in the world flock to MLB. Given the structure of today's farm systems and the fact that many of the top American born players are aging, the majority of MLB rosters in the next ten years will be foreign born players.

HA! Goes to show you do not know Geography. I do not live in Philadelphia. I live in Lancaster City.
Which is about 2 or 3 miles away from where our friend Corneliu goes/went to University in Millersville.

BTW, typical Cornman response. :p

Uh...since when has the American Superiority Complex EVER proudly chanted "we're number two"? Sorry. I'll give you American by training and habitation. Russian by birth. Still not enough to "own" ALL of tennis, considering there's a whole men's side to the ATP.



He has the personality of the Swiss, he could never be perceived as American, even if he had a heart and soul transplant. Once you're Swiss, you never recover. Federer is Swiss, will always be Swiss. Sorry.



Yes. Weeping for the future has that effect.



This is a nice act you have going. New Mitanni does it better.



If the cheese involved is on a cheesesteak sammy, I surrender.

It's like this, us americans do everything we can to come 1st and own, if we can't do that then 2nd place becomes the new 1st place. And anyway, the woman that is coming first is getting old, she will retire soon and then Sharapova will be first again.

Same with the men, Federer will retire eventually and Nadal will be 1st, and Spain is closer to us then Switzerland, you see the pattern? Number 1 male tennis player is coming this way.

HA! Goes to show you do not know Geography. I do not live in Philadelphia. I live in Lancaster City.

I don't like places that sound British, except New York, New York is ok, i'm moving there this year, but other then that...lancaster city is a no no.

Lancaster city reminds me of Britain, and Britain is near France. Thus, Lancaster city is also cheese eating surrender monkey land.

even if it wasn't independant, it was still Canada.
100% TRUE!!

I dunno what that is. If I remember tomorrow I will look it up. In case you want to.. the name is the Winston Salem Warthogs (http://www.warthogs.com/).

They are definitely Advanced A. They are the affiliate of the Chicago White Sox. Their AAA affiliate is the Charlotte Knights, who should be getting a new stadium soon.

All of our sports are head and shoulders above your stupid soccer and your stupid cricket, even our crappy sports are better then your sports, even golf, even hockey, even tennis is better then soccer and cricket.

Cricket is like baseball but a lot slooooooooooower. And soccer...don't get me started about soccer, have you seen the simpsons episode where they make fun of soccer? Where the 3 guys just pass the ball to each other, and nothing happens.

That's what we think soccer is, and it's true, a game is 90 minutes and i doubt theres 60 seconds of action all up

What the fuck is soccer?

What the fuck is soccer?

Look inside your self, deep deep deep inside your self. And you will hear the little voice telling you to call it soccer. You know you want to, just come out of the closet. Soccer rolls right of the tongue, it's a beautiful word for a not so beautiful game.

Now, the first step of the twelve step guide to go from football to soccer:
Start chanting it slowly and quietly, then progressivly get quicker and louder until your entire country can her, they will get the message, the entire UK will realize it's been wrong the entire time, come to it's senses and call it soccer.

Look inside your self, deep deep deep inside your self. And you will hear the little voice telling you to call it soccer. You know you want to, just come out of the closet. Soccer rolls right of the tongue, it's a beautiful word for a not so beautiful game.

Now, the first step of the twelve step guide to go from football to soccer:
Start chanting it slowly and quietly, then progressivly get quicker and louder until your entire country can her, they will get the message, the entire UK will realize it's been wrong the entire time, come to it's senses and call it soccer.

No

Furthermore, football is the beautiful game. There is a reason it is the worlds most popular sport, thousands of times more popular then any other crappy american coppy cat sport.

Look inside your self, deep deep deep inside your self. And you will hear the little voice telling you to call it soccer. You know you want to, just come out of the closet. Soccer rolls right of the tongue, it's a beautiful word for a not so beautiful game.

Now, the first step of the twelve step guide to go from football to soccer:
Start chanting it slowly and quietly, then progressivly get quicker and louder until your entire country can her, they will get the message, the entire UK will realize it's been wrong the entire time, come to it's senses and call it soccer.
You aren't talking about football, are you?

I read the first four pages. Has the sterotypical American egotism subsided yet? No. F***. *leaves thread*

First off, it is a DIAMOND, not a square.

If it has 90 degree angles it is a square.

What the fuck is soccer?

Soccer is a sport where men run around in essentially short shorts and knee high socks taking their shirts off every time they score a goal...its just a hoax for a giant homosexual gathering..so is US football and baseball..with the all ass slapping and what not...

Soccer is a sport where men run around in essentially short shorts and knee high socks taking their shirts off every time they score a goal...its just a hoax for a giant homosexual gathering..so is US football and baseball..with the all ass slapping and what not...

The old Olympics were much much worse.

No

Furthermore, football is the beautiful game. There is a reason it is the worlds most popular sport, thousands of times more popular then any other crappy american coppy cat sport.

Indeed; Nou Camp, May 1999. That still sends shivers down my spine.

Incidentally, has anybody been watching the Copa America? Argentina are a genuine pleasure to watch, unlike Brazil.

Holy hermaphrodites, Batman! Do you have any idea how much the tabloids/paparazzi would PAY for that evidence? The mind boggles.

I'm thinking 6-7 figures, easy. Now, overlay that with the recorded grunts, groans, moans, and yelps, and we have the makings of the next Hilton video(ie, semi-decent income from the originals, lots of bootlegs).;):D

The old Olympics were much much worse.

oh I dont even wanna picture that..men wrestling naked and the like...no sir definitely not for me..of course to them it was normal since they had orgies on a regular basis...

oh I dont even wanna picture that..men wrestling naked and the like...no sir definitely not for me..of course to them it was normal since they had orgies on a regular basis...

Every time you think a sport is bad. Just imagine having to watch it with naked oiled Greeks instead of whoever's playing. You'll even learn to appreciate fishing.

how do you figure that?

america and canada would work together to run the place.

america and canada always work on the same team. we're close allies that way.

My Canadian boyfriend would beg to differ...they don't wanna work with ya, and they are WAY bigger....just don't lose the soap in the prison shower ;)

All your silly sports suck, except sheep shearing.

The three major Japanese baseball leagues are barely better than most AAA affiliates of MLB teams. Some aging MLB players who aren't good enough for MLB rosters will move to Japan so they can put in a few years. The only reason Japanese offensive numbers are so high is because the outfields are shallow and most teams play on turf in domes. (balls move quicker out of the infield)

The Japanese leagues are panicking because all of their good talent is moving to America. The Latin American countries don't even have their leagues during the MLB season. They make sure their leagues are used as winter leagues for players that range from Class A minor league to rookie MLB players.
how do you know if they don't play each other? besides didn't Japan win the world baseball thing last year?

No team anywhere in the world can field a team that can beat the World Series Champions. Find me a team in any other country that could top the rotation of Beckett, Willis, Burnett, and Pavano in 2003. Who could top Buehrle, Garland, Garcia, Contreras, and Hernandez in 2005? Who could top Schilling, Wakefield, Martinez, and Lowe in 2004? The fact remains that the cream of the crop from every country in the world flock to MLB. Given the structure of today's farm systems and the fact that many of the top American born players are aging, the majority of MLB rosters in the next ten years will be foreign born players.

again, how do you know if they don't play each other? A team may look good on paper but may not match well against different styles. The perfect example; The US men's basketball team a few years back was made up of supposedly the best players in all the world and were unbeatable. When they actually played other countries they fell flat on their face, I think they even lost to Puerto Rico.

So please defend yourselves and give me a descent reason why you shouldn't rename your tournment, and not one that is just "Its ours, we want to name it that" etc because if any other country did that you would be fuming. So do you actually have a decent reason for keeping it that way.


Here is one,
because we dont care about what your whining little ass thinks about our tournament. Dont you have more pressing issues to be thinking about?

how do you know if they don't play each other? besides didn't Japan win the world baseball thing last year?

Because Japanese stars who hit .330/.400/.500 in Japan come over to the majors and hit .270/.340/.400. In other words, the stats that Japanese players put up in Japan and AAA players put up in AAA see similar decreases when they come to the major leagues.


EDIT :
Which, being said, it should be noted that MLB is not equvilent to American (USA), as a large percentage (maybe even a majority?) of players in the MLB come from foreign countries, particularly Latin American ones.

It is hilarious watching the serious people collide with the sarcastic absolutists in a giant clusterfuck of a thread.

It's like this, us americans do everything we can to come 1st and own, if we can't do that then 2nd place becomes the new 1st place. And anyway, the woman that is coming first is getting old, she will retire soon and then Sharapova will be first again.

Same with the men, Federer will retire eventually and Nadal will be 1st, and Spain is closer to us then Switzerland, you see the pattern? Number 1 male tennis player is coming this way.


Keep tryin'. You may someday reach the New Mitanni/Freedom and Glory level.

Americans, rename the "world" series of baseball.

no

It is hilarious watching the serious people collide with the sarcastic absolutists in a giant clusterfuck of a thread.

Especially when so many seem either impervious to the sarcasm or willing to seem obtuse for the benefit of pontificating.

All your silly sports suck, except sheep shearing.

Damn New Zealanders always win though

Keep tryin'. You may someday reach the New Mitanni/Freedom and Glory level.

He'll always be an embarrassment to everything that stands for America, nothing more than those two.

I hope he receives a Mack truck to his cojones.

He'll always be an embarrassment to everything that stands for America, nothing more than those two.

I hope he receives a Mack truck to his cojones.

...Ow?

Damn New Zealanders always win though

Well they're part sheep themselves.

Incidentally, has anybody been watching the Copa America? Argentina are a genuine pleasure to watch, unlike Brazil.

Thats what you get when you put an ex defensive midfielder in charge of the team. Dunga has all the attacking instincts of a dodo.

Rename the World Series? How about no. I'm not even a baseball fan, but your asking us to change something that has been popular for 100 years? Hell no!

Oh, and its soccer, not football. (to the person on page one who so wrongly said the opposite)

Rename the World Series? How about no. I'm not even a baseball fan, but your asking us to change something that has been popular for 100 years? Hell no!

Oh, and its soccer, not football. (to the person on page one who so wrongly said the opposite)

http://cgi.stanford.edu/group/wais/cgi-bin/index.php?p=6178

Soccer versus Football (Istvan Simon, US)

Ronald Hilton asked: ” Why is the US devoted to American “football” rather than to soccer, dominant in the rest of the world?” Istvan Simon answers: Having been brought up in Brazil, and thus on the greatest soccer the world has ever seen, I think that I can comment on this with some authority. Soccer is great, particularly the soccer of Pele’ and Didi, Garrincha, and Zico, and so on, all the way to today’s stars like Ronaldinho. But soccer is not nearly as entertaining or interesting as Football is. I tried to explain this to Alice Whealey’s husband a few months back but I was totally unsuccessful. He just would not listen. So let me try again and explain why Football is actually more interesting, much more interesting than soccer ever will be.

If I had to compare the two, I would say that soccer is like Jazz, it’s quick improvisation, and when great players play it, it is a superb form of entertainment, just like great Jazz is. Football is different. There are elements of improvisation and Jazz in it, but by and large Football is a mental game, a game of strategy, team work, and precise execution. It is very rare to see a soccer game in which the score is let us say 3 to 0 and we are 15 minutes from the end of the game, in which the losing team ends up winning. It is much more common that a football team losing 21 to 0 at the start of the fourth quarter still might win the game. 5 seconds in soccer is nothing at all. 5 seconds in Football is the difference between defeat and victory, and happens every Sunday in the NFL. This extraordinary use of time is one of the many attractions of Football.

There is another aspect of Football which makes it vastly more interesting than soccer. Football is a game of specialists: The skills needed to be a running back are not at all the same or even similar as the skills needed to be a wide receiver or a quarterback, or an offensive line man, or a defensive line man, or the punter, and so on. Each of these positions requires a specialist. Success in football thus comes from the skillful combination of dissimilar talents, an inherently more challenging and interesting problem than the much less varied skills needed for success in soccer. Cafu is a great defensive back in soccer, but he is also an attacker, and a very successful one. So is Roberto Carlos. But you will never see a punter be a wide receiver in Football.

For a long time I thought that Football was just a brutish game which was completely uninteresting. I was completely wrong. This is what the rest of the world thinks too, and the rest of the world is wrong. Football is extremely entertaining and extremely interesting for those that take the time to learn enough about it to understand what is really going on.

As soon as all Brits stop whining about how UK English is "the original and best" and US English is crap.:sniper:

As soon as all Brits stop whining about how UK English is "the original and best" and US English is crap.:sniper:

How about you get your own language and we get ours back, then you can have a new one instead of using a second hand one badly.....


:fluffle:

I loves y'all really, I got a Canadian at home and his accent makes me weak at the knees.....

How about you get your own language and we get ours back, then you can have a new one instead of using a second hand one badly.....


:fluffle:

I loves y'all really, I got a Canadian at home and his accent makes me weak at the knees.....

Be fair -- the US is the chief source of English language neologisms, and has been since World War Two.

Thats what you get when you put an ex defensive midfielder in charge of the team. Dunga has all the attacking instincts of a dodo.

Depressingly, you're right. I just watched the final; as impressive as Alex and Juan were in central defence, it would have been nice to have seen a little less Chelsea-esque tedium.

Riquelme was awful, though.

how do you know if they don't play each other? besides didn't Japan win the world baseball thing last year?
Japan won it, but the best players on that team weren't on any of Japan's rosters. They were all on MLB rosters.

Besides, the WBC was a shitty event. The best players from the US refused to play. I can't blame them. If I were a pitcher, playing in a tournament when I should be in camp is the worst thing I could do. I mean Michael Barrett was the best catcher who offered to play, and he fucking sucks.


again, how do you know if they don't play each other? A team may look good on paper but may not match well against different styles. The perfect example; The US men's basketball team a few years back was made up of supposedly the best players in all the world and were unbeatable. When they actually played other countries they fell flat on their face, I think they even lost to Puerto Rico.

US players would dominate Japanese players no matter where they play. In a Japanese park, non-power guys like Scott Podsednik would have double digit HRs because of the short outfields. If they played in the US, all of Japan's power hitters would find that their so called power isn't going to even get them to the warning track.

There is a reason every Japanese player has seen their numbers drop by a good margin when they make the switch. The pitching in America is also better.

There is a reason why washed up MLB players can easily make a Japanese roster when no MLB team would put them on the 40 man roster.

Keep tryin'. You may someday reach the New Mitanni/Freedom and Glory level.

hey. You got to realise, he's at least at the sadisco room's level. That hs to be... something...

hey. You got to realise, he's at least at the sadisco room's level. That hs to be... something...

It's tedious if that counts.

For a long time I thought that Football was just a brutish game which was completely uninteresting. I was completely wrong. This is what the rest of the world thinks too, and the rest of the world is wrong. Football is extremely entertaining and extremely interesting for those that take the time to learn enough about it to understand what is really going on.

What proportion of the people watching actually know that? I've noticed that while saying that your sport is strategic is all fine and good, that's not exactly catering to your audience.

What proportion of the people watching actually know that? I've noticed that while saying that your sport is strategic is all fine and good, that's not exactly catering to your audience.

And yet, the audience is there in droves every Sunday, and Monday Night.

And yet, the audience is there in droves every Sunday, and Monday Night.

They're mostly probably there to watch the uninteresting brutish parts.

Personally I don't really care what USians call their little rounders competitions.

C'mon, people of the US! I expect much better from you. Rename it to "Galactic Series".

I don't like places that sound British, except New York, New York is ok, i'm moving there this year, but other then that...lancaster city is a no no.

Lancaster city reminds me of Britain, and Britain is near France. Thus, Lancaster city is also cheese eating surrender monkey land.

Then you are nothing but a troll. I ignore trolls. When you actually have an argument, let me know so that I can once again talk to you.

I read the first four pages. Has the sterotypical American egotism subsided yet? No. F***. *leaves thread*



If it has 90 degree angles it is a square.

And yet...runners do not run in straight lines when rounding bases. :D

Rename the World Series? How about no. I'm not even a baseball fan, but your asking us to change something that has been popular for 100 years? Hell no!

Oh, and its soccer, not football. (to the person on page one who so wrongly said the opposite)

Actually...in Europe, it is Futball and not soccer.

Actually...in Europe, it is Futball and not soccer.

I must be in the wrong Europe if it's Futball

Why do you give a flying fuck?

I must be in the wrong Europe if it's Futball

I cannot put the little dots in the appropriate places but if you want the English term...football.

Why is everyone getting so worked up? :confused:
I personally am not affected in any way by sports. I couldn't care less if I tried about any sport involving a ball going back and forth. Motorcycle races and rally cars do get my attention but It sure doesn't change any aspect of my life depending on who wins.

Then you are nothing but a troll. I ignore trolls.
And you are nothing but a puppet of Corneliu. :D

Should we ignore puppets?

Actually...in Europe, it is Futball and not soccer.

Dont' you mean Futbol, and no, unless you're speaking spanish, that's not the case.

I cannot put the little dots in the appropriate places but if you want the English term...football.

Which language are you referring to?

Where's the "People of Sol 3, rename your 'Miss Universe' beauty pageant" thread?

Where's the "People of Sol 3, rename your 'Miss Universe' beauty pageant" thread?

convince some-one from another planet to join NSG, and you'll see one soon enough.