NationStates Jolt Archive

They think the other candidates should go away.

Hmm. Why not let the primary voters decide? Are primaries so wrong?

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2007/7/13/85702.shtml?s=ic

If you get a chance, find the video. It makes her "thanks" to Obama seem really fake.

I think that she and Edwards are probably planning a joint run - wipe out the other candidates, and then one of them will be Vice President on the ticket.

"Is that a twenty dollar bill?"

*bends down*

"My fellow Americans!"

"Son of a bitch!"

People make plans and God laughs, isn't that the expression? ;)

Me, I laugh at Hillary's funny accent changes. And Edwards's perpetually picture-perfect 'do. :p

http://www.cthulhu.org/

That's who I'm voting for. Why choose the lesser of two evils?

http://www.cthulhu.org/

That's who I'm voting for. Why choose the lesser of two evils?

Are you sure it's the lesser?

NewsMax is a self-proclaimed conservative outlet that is quickly developing a reputation for fabricated news, and I can't be bothered to hunt down mysterious videos that Remote Observer wants to talk about.

Source up (with something remotely believable) or shut up.

NewsMax is a self-proclaimed conservative outlet that is quickly developing a reputation for fabricated news, and I can't be bothered to hunt down mysterious videos that Remote Observer wants to talk about.

Source up (with something remotely believable) or shut up.

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=3373890&page=1

You have been pwned.

I still wouldn't fuck em. :p

You have been pwned.No, I have been gratified.

Maybe people would take you more at face value if you'd learn to open with the good source rather than your favorite spin zone?

EDIT: Since you've apparently seen it, would it trouble you much to post the video?

"Is that a twenty dollar bill?"

*bends down*

"My fellow Americans!"

"Son of a bitch!"

It goes:

"Hey money! Did you drop that?"
"Yeah, yeah I did drop that."
"My fellow Americans"
"You son of a bitch!"

No, I have been gratified.

Maybe people would take you more at face value if you'd learn to open with the good source rather than your favorite spin zone?

When the "spin zone" is running an AP wire story...

I guess the AP is a right-wing firehose of news to you...

When the "spin zone" is running an AP wire story.They claimed it was an AP story without citing the AP-source location, which is traditionally done when reprinting the AP.

And frankly, I just don't trust them that far.

The point is, the story is obviously valid and now we can all move on to making our informed judgments about it. But it's a lot easier to get to that point if you learn basic standards of credibility.

When the "spin zone" is running an AP wire story...

I guess the AP is a right-wing firehose of news to you...

Technically, most everything in American politics is right-wing.

"We've got to talk because they, they are, just being trivialized," Clinton said to Edwards.

"They are not serious," Edwards responded.

"No," Clinton said in agreement. "You know, I think there was an effort by our campaigns to do that. We got somehow, you know, detoured. But we've got to get back to that . . ."

Due to organ music and announcements that were being made in the background, the entirety of the conversation is not audible.

ABC News has asked both campaigns what the two candidates have agreed to work on together and will update this post with their responses.Decent reporting. (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/07/caught-on-tape-.html)

And this is why we like real reporters.

Is it obvious that Clinton and Edwards are talking about eliminating other candidates... from anything? No.

For my part, I'll wait for more information.

Technically, most everything in American politics is right-wing.

Shhh... don't let the people who vote Democrat realize that...

Decent reporting. (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/07/caught-on-tape-.html)

And this is why we like real reporters.

Is it obvious that Clinton and Edwards are talking about eliminating other candidates... from anything? No.

For my part, I'll wait for more information.

Why don't you listen to the video. Oh, I guess a "left" reporter has to spoon-feed you what to think.

It's quite apparent that they are talking about exactly that.

Shhh... don't let the people who vote Democrat realize that...

Why?

I can't stand Edwards, faux populist that he is.

Why?

It's been anathema for any politician (who expects to be elected) to be from the real Left, or to mention things like "class" outside of the context of "racism".

We really have one party, that constantly pretends to be left or right.

Both parties have major ideas about controlling individual rights.

One wants to shut you up, make you go to church, and stop getting abortions.

The other wants to shut you up, give your kids to Hillary, and stop owning guns.

Why don't you listen to the video.I did. Apparently your ability to sift through background noise is better than both mine (I couldn't hear a damn thing) and that of ABC News.

It's quite apparent that they are talking about exactly that.Nothing is "quite apparent."

I agree that it seems they've decided to "team up" somehow, but there's nothing necessarily suspicious about that. Maybe they want to push themselves out as front-runners by collaborating... fine, so long as they're not actually trying to "limit" other people from participating. Pushing yourselves out front to make others seem irrelevant, so that debate hosts don't care about inviting them... that's one thing. Accusations that they plan to "conspire" to have other candidates kept out of the debates is another thing entirely.

Nothing about that video or the various transcripts floating around (among which there is apparently some disagreement as to the actual dialogue) confirms anything remotely unethical, as far as I can tell.

But again, I'm suspending judgment in hopes for more information.

I did. Apparently your ability to sift through background noise is better than both mine (I couldn't hear a damn thing) and that of ABC News.

After DK finished his stint in the Army's elite sniper corps and his law degree he worked as a forensic sound technician.

After DK finished his stint in the Army's elite sniper corps and his law degree he worked as a forensic sound technician.

Never worked as a sound technician. But I have average hearing, and I can hear it.

But I have average hearing, and I can hear it.After someone tells a person that "the devil eats your Cheerios" is in their music played backwards, they tend to say they hear it, too.

I'm not listening for what anyone tells me to listen for, I'm just listening. And I hear them talking about working together, but I don't hear them talking about cutting anyone else out.

After someone tells a person that "the devil eats your Cheerios" is in their music played backwards, they tend to say they hear it, too.

After someone likes Hillary and Edwards enough, (or Bush for that matter), they can't hear anything bad coming from their mouths ever again.

After someone likes Hillary and Edwards enough, (or Bush for that matter), they can't hear anything bad coming from their mouths ever again.You can assume all you want, but the fact of the matter is that I don't really like Hillary, and I definitely don't like Edwards.

This is about an appreciation for facts, not a political ideology.

You can assume all you want, but the fact of the matter is that I don't really like Hillary, and I definitely don't like Edwards.

This is about an appreciation for facts, not a political ideology.

Sorry, you're from New Jersey - can't believe that one for a second.

Sorry, you're from New Jersey - can't believe that one for a second.Actually, I'm originally from Virginia. ;)

ABC got more about that conversation than I did. Damned announcer drowned most of it out. I did catch the word Trivialized, but that's about it.

If they were conspiring at something don't you think Obama who walked up to them or perhaps that guy standing with them might comment?

Looks like more RO paranoia to me.

Actually, I'm originally from Virginia. ;)

Yes, but you left, to get away from relatively conservative people (unless you're from Northern Virginia).

Yes, but you left, to get away from relatively conservative people (unless you're from Northern Virginia).Well, this is stupid. Now you're going to fabricate my life story to fit your judgment that the only reason I disagree with you is that I'm liberal--which I'm not.

Hillary Clinton is far too conservative for my taste.