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I've somehow convinced myself, or been convinced, that volcanoes are responsible for global warming. Something about one volcano eruption equaling ten years of human output of CO2. Could someone tell me I'm wrong so I can stop being such a dumbass?

Could be volcanos or forest fires or CO2 being released from a disturbance in the Marianas Trench - who knows? Could even be cyclical. I'm not too sure yet, and not likely to be convinced by incomplete graphs. At least people are starting to take non-biased looks into the topic - that's a start. :p

I've somehow convinced myself, or been convinced, that volcanoes are responsible for global warming. Something about one volcano eruption equaling ten years of human output of CO2. Could someone tell me I'm wrong so I can stop being such a dumbass?

Yes, you are wrong.

A major but often overlooked problem is that of CO, a gas only produced in quick combustions that erodes the ozone layer.

A major but often overlooked problem is that of CO, a gas only produced in quick combustions that erodes the ozone layer.

I thought they said the Ozone was recovering? Also, I didn't think ultraviolet radiation made anything hotter.

I've somehow convinced myself, or been convinced, that volcanoes are responsible for global warming. Something about one volcano eruption equaling ten years of human output of CO2. Could someone tell me I'm wrong so I can stop being such a dumbass?

My own outlandish alternative theory is that the earth's core is heating up - even more outlandish is the idea that it isn't heating up, it's that we've sucked out so much oil, which for the purposes of my theory manages to trap and dissipate the heat more evenly, that core heat is having more of an effect on our weather.

Given no one knows the core temperature, whether it rises or falls or whether it has any effect allows me to entertain this thought in the same way people entertain the thought of a God.

No good for science but good for having my own pat answer to things.

I thought they said the Ozone was recovering? Also, I didn't think ultraviolet radiation made anything hotter.

It doesn't, really. However, once it is absorbed by the Earth's surface, it is released as longer wavelength thermal energy, which in turn is reflected by greenhouse gases.

We should build a huge air conditioner.

We should build a huge air conditioner.

I think so too - a huge one in the middle of the country, with nuclear-powered afterburners and a condenser the size of Mt. Rushmore, piped into every home for a reasonable price. That would be swell. :)

We should build a huge air conditioner.

Yes - huge problems need huge solutions. Let's regulate this damn weather.

Yes - huge problems need huge solutions. Let's regulate this damn weather.

Forget the weather - we can adapt. All we need it solar-powered plants to fuel our underground hydroponic alfalfa fields, used to feed our blind cave-cows that will in turn feed and clothe us. I welcome it, myself. :p

I think so too - a huge one in the middle of the country, with nuclear-powered afterburners and a condenser the size of Mt. Rushmore, piped into every home for a reasonable price. That would be swell. :)

ACs only produce as much cool air as they do hot air.

Law of conservation of energy, that heats gotta go somewhere. ;)

I'm glad to see that no one even mentioned CFCs (freon) again, I guess your goverment took care of them?

Yes - huge problems need huge solutions. Let's regulate this damn weather.

That's right, we should treat the climate like the bitch it is.

It's AmeriCAN, not AmeriCAN'T godamnit.

ACs only produce as much cool air as they do hot air.

Law of conservation of energy, that heats gotta go somewhere. ;)

Or more heat in fact.

But I have a plan. We pipe the hot air into outer space. No problemo.

I'm glad to see that no one even mentioned CFCs (freon) again, I guess your goverment took care of them?

Freon is damned expensive - cost me $15.00 for a refill a couple weeks ago. Highway robbery, I say (no pun intended). :p

ACs only produce as much cool air as they do hot air.

Law of conservation of energy, that heats gotta go somewhere. ;)

So long as it's nuclear-powered, it's only air, though, right? ;) Makes for good swimming, too - nice and warm. :p

Or more heat in fact.

But I have a plan. We pipe the hot air into outer space. No problemo.

Or into an elaborate global hot water jacuzzi/spa system?

Seems a waste just to pipe it into space.

Yes - huge problems need huge solutions. Let's regulate this damn weather.

Republicans would never have it. Poor profit sense.

Republicans would never have it. Poor profit sense.

Not true. Just tell Ted Stevens that the huge ginormous space exhaust pipe will be built in Alaska by his 'friends' and he'll be all over this project.

Not true. Just tell Ted Stevens that the huge ginormous space exhaust pipe will be built in Alaska by his 'friends' and he'll be all over this project.

Ugh. Just because some guy decided 'ginormous' was a word, doesn't mean everyone has to use it now. :p

Not true. Just tell Ted Stevens that the huge ginormous space exhaust pipe will be built in Alaska by his 'friends' and he'll be all over this project.

Ooh - ya got me. I'd forgotten that there could be a series of tubes involved.
*hangs head in shame*

I've somehow convinced myself, or been convinced, that volcanoes are responsible for global warming. Something about one volcano eruption equaling ten years of human output of CO2. Could someone tell me I'm wrong so I can stop being such a dumbass?

Well I hope all these posts have enlightened you on this subject.

I'm off to hand in my A/C proposal to Halliburton - sorry Lacadaemon, I'm keeping the profits all to me!

Ugh. Just because some guy decided 'ginormous' was a word, doesn't mean everyone has to use it now. :p

You know, I'd actually forgotten about that when I used it. That means it is lodged somewhere in my brain and I'll be using it constantly, without thought, for the next six weeks. Damnit. :(

Or more heat in fact.

But I have a plan. We pipe the hot air into outer space. No problemo.

Pipe it to the moon!

My theory is that we don't know enough to be certain about global warming, but i do know that if we reduce consumption and pollution according to the Kyoto protocols, our world will be cleaner and safer.

Global warming may be wrong, but it is impelling us to clean up our act.

My own outlandish alternative theory is that the earth's core is heating up - even more outlandish is the idea that it isn't heating up, it's that we've sucked out so much oil, which for the purposes of my theory manages to trap and dissipate the heat more evenly, that core heat is having more of an effect on our weather.

Given no one knows the core temperature, whether it rises or falls or whether it has any effect allows me to entertain this thought in the same way people entertain the thought of a God.

No good for science but good for having my own pat answer to things.

I love outlandish theories(of course I do, I am after all religious) and on of my fave's is that there is no such thing as gravity, everything is just expanding at the same rate all the time.

My theory is that we don't know enough to be certain about global warming, but i do know that if we reduce consumption and pollution according to the Kyoto protocols, our world will be cleaner and safer.

Global warming may be wrong, but it is impelling us to clean up our act.

Well it makes sense to get a grip on how we produce things, and it makes sense to makes sure that we are future proof in that we find a way to recycle as much as we feasibly can.

CO2 emissions from volcanoes around the world in one year are less than 1/130 of human emissions in an equivalent period of time.

Now, don't be a dumbass.

CO2 emissions from volcanoes around the world in one year are less than 1/130 of human emissions in an equivalent period of time.

Now, don't be a dumbass.
Yep, my lecture notes say anthropogenic CO2 is 150 times greater than that of volcanoes, and that this is probably a conservative estimate. Incidentally, nearly half of all volcanic CO2 comes from Mt Etna.

CO2 emissions from volcanoes around the world in one year are less than 1/130 of human emissions in an equivalent period of time.

Now, don't be a dumbass.

Ahh, finally, what I was looking for!

Thank you.

cant we just cap all geothermal output and pipe it into a global tubing network for use in place of heaters and coal power plants which in turn will fuel the ginormous A/C?

Ahh, finally, what I was looking for!

Thank you.

My pleasure. :)

As a keen proponent of the theory of anthropogenic global warming, I will not let an ally be won over to the... dark side. :D

Forget the weather - we can adapt. All we need it solar-powered plants to fuel our underground hydroponic alfalfa fields, used to feed our blind cave-cows that will in turn feed and clothe us. I welcome it, myself. :p

Who would not welcome it? It would be like the Time Machine, come to life! *is devoured by Thumbless-Morlock*

Also, fewer people seem to be denying global warming now, they just claim it's not their fault. Why does it matter whose fault it is? The end result will be the same if we don't do something to offset the change.

Along with the ginormous AC unit, there should be a cow in every home. The homeowner/occupier must hook up the cow to a methane burner which in turn will generate electricity for the fuel cells. There will be a condenser on the fuel cell which will capture the fresh water. The water will be used for hydroponic alfalfa to feed the cow. See, even if denying global warming it is politically incorrect, there is any easy answer that every homeowner/occupier can do to help solve the non-problem, which is a good thing to do even if global warming isn't happening.

I've somehow convinced myself, or been convinced, that volcanoes are responsible for global warming. Something about one volcano eruption equaling ten years of human output of CO2. Could someone tell me I'm wrong so I can stop being such a dumbass?

Volcanoes have been erupting at a rather standard rate for millions of years, thus maintaining a "status quo" of carbon levels.

Human output, on the other hand, is new.

Human output doesn't need to be higher than volcano output in order to result in an increase of CO2 over historical levels.

Yes, you are wrong.

A major but often overlooked problem is that of CO, a gas only produced in quick combustions that erodes the ozone layer.

Isn't it mostly chlorofluorocarbons (the Cls and Fs in them I think) that erode the ozone.
And I think it is begining to recover.