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Canadian pot use four times global rate

Gift-of-god
12-07-2007, 19:50
Us Canucks are apparently smoking four times as much marijuana as the global average.

We're the highest people in the developed world. Even the Netherlands.

The link is here (http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/canada/story.html?id=67996149-9dee-4a3a-a86e-f7a022274658), you stoners.

We almost had possession of less than seven grams decriminalised, but then the Conservatives got into power and quashed the bill. This study shows that Canadians definitely enjoy it, and so there would be public support for decriminalisation. I don't think anyone here thinks it should still be illegal (I mean both Canada and NSG, by the way), so why is still illegal?

What do you think?

Possible theories:

-Big paper industry, huge in Canada, could be trying to prevent large scale hemp production.
-US pressure. Imagine having the world's longest unregulated border with a country that legalises drugs. Even if you do not think of the drugs as harmful, the organised crime that would profit from such an arrangement would definitely be harmful.
-Large alcohol and tobacco companies may be trying to keep the intoxicant market small to keep up their market share.

When it is legalised, all you USians can come on up to Montreal and get high with us.
Newer Burmecia
12-07-2007, 19:57
Aaaah, so that's why you all elected Harper: you guys were all too blazed to put an X next to something sensible on your ballot paper!

Personally, I'd legalise it in Canada simply to watch the Americans fume...in more ways than one.
Khadgar
12-07-2007, 20:02
Considering the neighbors you have to the south, I'm not surprised.
Gift-of-god
12-07-2007, 20:15
Aaaah, so that's why you all elected Harper: you guys were all too blazed to put an X next to something sensible on your ballot paper!

Personally, I'd legalise it in Canada simply to watch the Americans fume...in more ways than one.

Sorry, what was that? I forgot what we were talking about....

Are you going to eat that?
Gift-of-god
12-07-2007, 20:27
Considering the neighbors you have to the south, I'm not surprised.

Do you think the US government is trying to influence Canadian drug policy?
New Malachite Square
12-07-2007, 20:37
Aaaah, so that's why you all elected Harper: you guys were all too blazed to put an X next to something sensible on your ballot paper!

Personally, I'd legalise it in Canada simply to watch the Americans fume...in more ways than one.

It… it explains so much! :D


We also have a Marijuana Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marijuana_Party_of_Canada)
It's every Friday, 11PM. :p
New Manvir
12-07-2007, 20:45
Dude, it's only a matter of time before Pot is legal in Canada...

-US pressure. Imagine having the world's longest unregulated border with a country that legalises drugs. Even if you do not think of the drugs as harmful, the organised crime that would profit from such an arrangement would definitely be harmful.

actually that seems most plausible as to why it is still illegal, given the history of US-Canada relations...the 1920's...Prohibition and all that...
Gift-of-god
12-07-2007, 20:52
It… it explains so much! :D


We also have a Marijuana Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marijuana_Party_of_Canada)
It's every Friday, 11PM. :p

Here in Québec, we have our own provincial party:

The Bloc Pot.

Their english website seems to be down. Here's the wiki on them. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloc_pot)

And for those who read French:
http://www.blocpot.qc.ca/

The federal Marijuana Party is an offshoot (a cutting?) of the Bloc Pot. As well as the usual leftist/hippy/ecological agenda, they also push for the complete legalisation of the sex trade.

No wonder all those US tourists come here every summer. Sex, Cuban cigars and legal drugs...
New Malachite Square
12-07-2007, 20:58
No wonder all those US tourists come here every summer. Sex, Cuban cigars and legal drugs...

What happens in Canada… stays in Canada.

Edit: Do I recall Mark Critch saying that, or was it something else?
Gift-of-god
12-07-2007, 21:13
What happens in Canada… stays in Canada.

Edit: Do I recall Mark Critch saying that, or was it something else?

That's the idea, but I bet the US is worried about the large demand on one side of the border and an easy and legal supply on the other. Not to mention extradition treaties for drug possession or distribution could be sent awry. Imagine some drug dealer knows he is about to be buisted. He pops up over the border to Toronto or Vancouver and the US cops can't touch him.

This would actually be a problem for us to if my figurative drug dealer was also involved in other crimes. I'm not sure I would want gun smugglers or killers hanging out in Canadian cities.
Nivalc
12-07-2007, 21:20
What is it with Canadian people and pot?
Xorthea
12-07-2007, 21:22
Thats both surprising and not surprising. I know that here in Quebec that marijuana use is pretty high (no pun intended). I mean even some of the cops here come and ask to roll a doobie. I didn't know it was as prevalent in the rest of Canada though. I always thought this was just another aspect in which Quebec was an oddball.
Gift-of-god
12-07-2007, 21:27
What is it with Canadian people and pot?

Could you be a bit more specific? Are you asking why we have such a high rate of use?

I think most Canadians just don't care if the teenagers are smoking some reefer. And we also have a relatively liberal society. And we like getting high and then having sex for hours and hours, you know, on those long winter nights.
East Canuck
12-07-2007, 21:28
What is it with Canadian people and pot?

We grow some of the best in the world.

Beats me how...
New Malachite Square
12-07-2007, 21:30
We grow some of the best in the world.

Beats me how...

Those're the kind-a secrets we keep away from hosers, eh?
Gift-of-god
12-07-2007, 21:32
Thats both surprising and not surprising. I know that here in Quebec that marijuana use is pretty high (no pun intended). I mean even some of the cops here come and ask to roll a doobie. I didn't know it was as prevalent in the rest of Canada though. I always thought this was just another aspect in which Quebec was an oddball.

BC is like that too, according to rumour. I only lived in rural BC, and I was surrounded by loggers the whole time. Not too fun.

I can think of two RCMP officers that I know have smoked pot. Both lived in the prairies at the time. Maybe it is a Canada wide thing.

It's always 4:20 here! A half hour later in Newfoundland.
Xorthea
12-07-2007, 21:35
BC is like that too, according to rumour. I only lived in rural BC, and I was surrounded by loggers the whole time. Not too fun.

I can think of two RCMP officers that I know have smoked pot. Both lived in the prairies at the time. Maybe it is a Canada wide thing.

It's always 4:20 here! A half hour later in Newfoundland.

I know a couple of Laval police officers who hang out and smoke up with a few guys I know. They don't even seem like the stoner type.
Lorkhan
12-07-2007, 21:37
Human: Dude. You're pretty blazed.
Nick: Blame Canada.

See what happens when you smoke pot? You say things that you think are funny, but they're not really that funny.
Hmm.
/post
Gift-of-god
12-07-2007, 21:37
I know a couple of Laval police officers who hang out and smoke up with a few guys I know. They don't even seem like the stoner type.

Are you from Laval? I'm near the Old Port right now.
Xorthea
12-07-2007, 21:39
Are you from Laval? I'm near the Old Port right now.
Lived my whole life in Laval, yup. I think I'll be moving down into the big city when I'm done with Cegep.
Hamberry
12-07-2007, 21:45
Why?
Americans don't deserve our high-grade pot :p
Seriously, though, it's probably because there's not really any social stigma, at least not among teenagers. And I've read (anyone confirm/deny?) it's healthier then smoking cigarettes anyways. Can't say I've done it myself, though.
New Malachite Square
12-07-2007, 21:47
Why?
Americans don't deserve our high-grade pot :p
Seriously, though, it's probably because there's not really any social stigma, at least not among teenagers. And I've read (anyone confirm/deny?) it's healthier then smoking cigarettes anyways. Can't say I've done it myself, though.

Well… not chemically addictive anyway. Still carcinogenic smoke floating around in your lungs though.
Gift-of-god
12-07-2007, 21:47
Lived my whole life in Laval, yup. I think I'll be moving down into the big city when I'm done with Cegep.

As a CEGEP student, you must know all about the drug subculture among young Canadians, if I remember correctly from my own CEGEP years.
Nodinia
12-07-2007, 21:48
Us Canucks are apparently smoking four times as much marijuana as the global average.

We're the highest people in the developed world. Even the Netherlands.

The link is here (http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/canada/story.html?id=67996149-9dee-4a3a-a86e-f7a022274658), you stoners.

We almost had possession of less than seven grams decriminalised, but then the Conservatives got into power and quashed the bill. This study shows that Canadians definitely enjoy it, and so there would be public support for decriminalisation. I don't think anyone here thinks it should still be illegal (I mean both Canada and NSG, by the way), so why is still illegal?

What do you think?

Possible theories:

-Big paper industry, huge in Canada, could be trying to prevent large scale hemp production.
-US pressure. Imagine having the world's longest unregulated border with a country that legalises drugs. Even if you do not think of the drugs as harmful, the organised crime that would profit from such an arrangement would definitely be harmful.
-Large alcohol and tobacco companies may be trying to keep the intoxicant market small to keep up their market share.

When it is legalised, all you USians can come on up to Montreal and get high with us.


Easiest explanation. 'Y'all grow good shit'.
Gift-of-god
12-07-2007, 21:50
Why?
Americans don't deserve our high-grade pot :p
Seriously, though, it's probably because there's not really any social stigma, at least not among teenagers. And I've read (anyone confirm/deny?) it's healthier then smoking cigarettes anyways. Can't say I've done it myself, though.

Some studies indicate that it may have anti-carcinogenic properties. Hopefully, it can used to treat cancer as well as helping people with the side effects of chemotherapy.

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn6283
Xorthea
12-07-2007, 21:55
As a CEGEP student, you must know all about the drug subculture among young Canadians, if I remember correctly from my own CEGEP years.

The ones who make it to CEGEP and manage to stay there smoke marijuana pretty responsibly. I can respect that a lot. The ones who never make it past high school, generally, end up in pretty bad shape. All in all, the drug use in CEGEP is done in self-moderation as far as I can see. Nobody loses too many brain-cells and most people tend to have a good time. Mostly no harm ever done. No social stigma either.
Tograna
12-07-2007, 22:00
-US pressure. Imagine having the world's longest unregulated border with a country that legalises drugs. Even if you do not think of the drugs as harmful, the organised crime that would profit from such an arrangement would definitely be harmful.


Remember what happened when the Yanks tried to ban booze, they just got it all from Canada, would we see a repeat if Canada were to loosen it's laws on cannabis?
Hamberry
12-07-2007, 22:01
Some studies indicate that it may have anti-carcinogenic properties. Hopefully, it can used to treat cancer as well as helping people with the side effects of chemotherapy.

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn6283
Link there isn't working. And I must admit I'd find it hilarious if that ends up being proven.
"Hey man, what's up?"
"Nothing much. Doing my cancer therapy right now." *Lights up joint*
"Wha....."
Gift-of-god
12-07-2007, 22:14
Link there isn't working. And I must admit I'd find it hilarious if that ends up being proven.
"Hey man, what's up?"
"Nothing much. Doing my cancer therapy right now." *Lights up joint*
"Wha....."

Try this one:

http://www.primidi.com/2004/09/05.html

I think I'm going to have to engage in some preventative medicine tonight when I go to my friends house to play Hitman 2.
Hamberry
12-07-2007, 22:26
Try this one:

http://www.primidi.com/2004/09/05.html

I think I'm going to have to engage in some preventative medicine tonight when I go to my friends house to play Hitman 2.
Found this clip from the Simpsons:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83vL7DdXUQ0
It even cures when your eyes have been poked out by crows.
New Malachite Square
12-07-2007, 22:36
Found this clip from the Simpsons:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83vL7DdXUQ0
It even cures when your eyes have been poked out by crows.

"Shemp is hemp spelled backwards!"
Posi
13-07-2007, 02:58
Thats both surprising and not surprising. I know that here in Quebec that marijuana use is pretty high (no pun intended). I mean even some of the cops here come and ask to roll a doobie. I didn't know it was as prevalent in the rest of Canada though. I always thought this was just another aspect in which Quebec was an oddball.
You obviously haven't heard of BC.
Commonalitarianism
13-07-2007, 03:25
Hey ya hoser, there is no thrill if there is no risk, plus the dealer has to make his cash, legalizing it makes it cheap.
Yootopia
13-07-2007, 03:34
What is it with Canadian people and pot?
It's super fun.
Posi
13-07-2007, 03:43
Hey ya hoser, there is no thrill if there is no risk, plus the dealer has to make his cash, legalizing it makes it cheap.
Dealers don't have to make their cash. If having a dealer system is too inefficient to survive legalization, than the industry will have to evolve and find a new way of delivering product (stores).
Commonalitarianism
13-07-2007, 03:48
Hey bud can I buy a pack of dokes. I smoke a pack a day. Its legal now. I used to have one or two on the weekend. But now I can get it when I want.
Jeruselem
13-07-2007, 06:45
Smunkee is going find this out pretty soon!
Canadians doped up talking to her.
Thumbless Pete Crabbe
13-07-2007, 06:48
Most pot growers (well, most smart ones, at least) use national Wilderness Areas to grow their illicit crop. Seeing as Canada is basically one massive wilderness area, it's only natural they'd have more growers, and by extention more users. :p Right?
Posi
13-07-2007, 06:48
Smunkee is going find this out pretty soon!
Canadians doped up talking to her.
Yes, Smunkee, how does your great trek to Canada go?
Cannot think of a name
13-07-2007, 07:11
You Canadians need some weed etiquette, though. When you're visiting somewhere and a local who tells you he's not a dealer hooks you up, kick him down a nug for his troubles or at least spark him...





...dammit...


Not that, uh, this happened or anything...<.< >.>
Neo Undelia
13-07-2007, 09:15
Could you be a bit more specific? Are you asking why we have such a high rate of use?

I think most Canadians just don't care if the teenagers are smoking some reefer. And we also have a relatively liberal society. And we like getting high and then having sex for hours and hours, you know, on those long winter nights.

:rolleyes:
Xorthea
13-07-2007, 09:27
You obviously haven't heard of BC.

Pfft, I've never even been to Manitoba. Pacific Canada might as well be China.
Intangelon
13-07-2007, 09:45
Well… not chemically addictive anyway. Still carcinogenic smoke floating around in your lungs though.

Not nearly as much as in a typical ciggy. All the chemicals they treat tobacco with juuuuust waitin' to do the alveolar hustle.
Demented Hamsters
13-07-2007, 09:51
Us Canucks are apparently smoking four times as much marijuana as the global average.
Well, that just means the rest of us have got some catching up to do.
C'mon all you non-Canucks! They're raised the bar, so now it's up to us to do something about it.

Or maybe it just means getting smashed is the only way to make those long Canadian winter days go by.
Gift-of-god
13-07-2007, 16:20
:rolleyes:

:confused:
Posi
13-07-2007, 18:19
Pfft, I've never even been to Manitoba. Pacific Canada might as well be China.
No wonder western alienation exists.
GrandBill II
13-07-2007, 18:30
We grow some of the best in the world.

Beats me how...

Most pot growers (well, most smart ones, at least) use national Wilderness Areas to grow their illicit crop. Seeing as Canada is basically one massive wilderness area, it's only natural they'd have more growers, and by extention more users. :p Right?

I don't know for the rest of Canada, but for Quebec we have:
- Huge wilderness for outdoor
- Really cheap electricity for indoor
- Extremely permissive law where a pot grower might get a simple fine (5000$-10000$) on first offense.
Maineiacs
13-07-2007, 18:30
Another reason to move to Canada! w00t! :gundge:
Northern Borders
13-07-2007, 18:39
Possible theories:

-Big paper industry, huge in Canada, could be trying to prevent large scale hemp production.
-US pressure. Imagine having the world's longest unregulated border with a country that legalises drugs. Even if you do not think of the drugs as harmful, the organised crime that would profit from such an arrangement would definitely be harmful.
-Large alcohol and tobacco companies may be trying to keep the intoxicant market small to keep up their market share.
.

My theory? The weather. Your weather just sucks. You have to stay most of the time indoors, doing what? Smoking.
Posi
14-07-2007, 03:54
I for whatever reason was reading the Edmonton Sun, and saw an article about this. They pointed out that we beat everyone except four piss ass countries that no one has heard about. Then they went on four three paragraphs (in a five paragraph article) accusing the researchers as gathering results in a biased way to make Canada look bad. Idiots.
Thumbless Pete Crabbe
14-07-2007, 04:08
I don't know for the rest of Canada, but for Quebec we have:
- Huge wilderness for outdoor
- Really cheap electricity for indoor
- Extremely permissive law where a pot grower might get a simple fine (5000$-10000$) on first offense.

That probably explains some of it. :p
New Malachite Square
14-07-2007, 04:25
My theory? The weather. Your weather just sucks. You have to stay most of the time indoors, doing what? Smoking.

We don't have to stay inside smoking… we choose to. :p
Secret aj man
14-07-2007, 04:30
Us Canucks are apparently smoking four times as much marijuana as the global average.

We're the highest people in the developed world. Even the Netherlands.

The link is here (http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/canada/story.html?id=67996149-9dee-4a3a-a86e-f7a022274658), you stoners.

We almost had possession of less than seven grams decriminalised, but then the Conservatives got into power and quashed the bill. This study shows that Canadians definitely enjoy it, and so there would be public support for decriminalisation. I don't think anyone here thinks it should still be illegal (I mean both Canada and NSG, by the way), so why is still illegal?

What do you think?

Possible theories:

-Big paper industry, huge in Canada, could be trying to prevent large scale hemp production.
-US pressure. Imagine having the world's longest unregulated border with a country that legalises drugs. Even if you do not think of the drugs as harmful, the organised crime that would profit from such an arrangement would definitely be harmful.
-Large alcohol and tobacco companies may be trying to keep the intoxicant market small to keep up their market share.

When it is legalised, all you USians can come on up to Montreal and get high with us.

you crazy canucks..gotta love you guys.and girls.
i am a usian,and i am strongly in favor of weed being completely legal,as far as i am concerned it is less harmfull then booze,for the user and for society.
i use to smoke weed like there was no tomorrow,but stopped about ten years ago.
i smoke occasionly if i am intoxicated to take the edge off,but if i never did again,i would be 100% in favor of it being legal.
i think the vast majority of americans favor it being legal or at least decrimmed,which leave us with our retarded pols,both LEFT AND RIGHT!
i doubt your theory about the tobacco or alcohol lobby is correct though.
you have to understand the mentality of the pol's here,on both sides,on one hand they cater to the aarp for votes,who mostly do the voting and are largely against drugs(except pharma's..lol)but even that is changing.
but by far the strongest lobby to maintain the status quo is the crimminal justice system!
like a biz,it needs consumers,and what better consumer base then drug users or people addicted to drugs for that matter.imagine if they crimminalized tobacco or alcohol..lol,3/4's of the country would be in jail.same logic.
lest you forget,most pol's are lawyers...and lawyers like clients,judges like trials,guards like guarding,cops like arresting,clerks like clerking,jails like being filled,probation officers like parolees..ad nauseam.
and they all have lobbyists,and they all want to keep there jobs!
i bet the law and order guy that was elected smokes or smoked pot,but he wants his job.same as the cop..and i use to buy weed from a cop,lol,it is about the way the system is employing a zillion people on this so called war on drugs,and no one wants to lose their jobs.
i was in court yesterday for dmv shit,and some 20 something surfer dude got nabbed for weed.looked like a nice kid,just catching waves dude sort,i'd pich him up if he was hitch hiking,prolly never harmed a soul in his life...well he got ass raped,10 days in county,license suspended,several hundred dollar fine and the usual "court costs" cause he got nicked with a little reefer.
dollars to donuts,as we dont have public trans here,he will get nicked in the future for driving on the suspended,nother big fine and more suspension,and more jail...and the song keeps playing and the wheel goes round.
it is pretty sad and awfully transparent if you ask me.
Constantanaple
14-07-2007, 04:34
-US pressure. Imagine having the world's longest unregulated border with a country that legalises drugs. Even if you do not think of the drugs as harmful, the organised crime that would profit from such an arrangement would definitely be harmful.

Well the only major drug running from Canada is Exstacy, Weed and some weird plant that looks like carrots (an aprodesiac.) Mexico on the other hand is the biggest shipper and distributer of coke into the U.S. so the drug smuggeling is nothing. The reason they dont do it is it will give us canadians a "bad rep".
Hell i dont mind. I use anbd grow the stuff.
Terrorist Cakes
14-07-2007, 04:38
Canadians are smart and realise pot is amazingly fantastic. Either that, or there's bloody nothing to do in this whole country but waste your life getting high.
Hamberry
14-07-2007, 04:42
This thread makes me want to go find some pot...sounds fun.
New Malachite Square
14-07-2007, 04:42
Well the only major drug running from Canada is Exstacy, Weed and some weird plant that looks like carrots (an aprodesiac.) Mexico on the other hand is the biggest shipper and distributer of coke into the U.S. so the drug smuggeling is nothing. The reason they dont do it is it will give us canadians a "bad rep".

Apparently my town is overrun with coke. *hasn't noticed*. Either we import from south of the border, or we keep it all to ourselves, away from those greedy Americans. :D
New Malachite Square
14-07-2007, 04:44
Canadians are smart and realise pot is amazingly fantastic. Either that, or there's bloody nothing to do in this whole country but waste your life getting high.

THAT IS SO NOT TRUE! We can become Mounties, or… or lumberjacks, or work in the visitor's center at Niagra Falls.

Edit: You might think that I should have written visitors'… haha! No! You are wrong!
Terrorist Cakes
14-07-2007, 04:49
THAT IS SO NOT TRUE! We can become Mounties, or… or lumberjacks, or work in the visitor's center at Niagra Falls.

Omg, I forgot about that! Let me go cut down some trees...
Hamberry
14-07-2007, 04:54
Omg, I forgot about that! Let me go cut down some trees...
You hosers! You forgot the guys who make donuts at Tim Hortons!
New Malachite Square
14-07-2007, 05:02
You hosers! You forgot the guys who make donuts at Tim Hortons!

That's true: Tim Hortons comes back to the snowy side (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Hortons#Merger_with_Wendy.27s). Once again, Tim Hortons has become a true Canadian employer. :p
Avarum
14-07-2007, 05:04
You hosers! You forgot the guys who make donuts at Tim Hortons!

Yep, the canadians need to get their munchies from somewhere.
New Malachite Square
14-07-2007, 05:09
Yep, the canadians need to get their munchies from somewhere.

Canadians have the best munchies. Mmmm, Smarties… (http://student.dcu.ie/~copains/fr489_02/experiences/images/smarties.jpg).

In Canada, we call your Smarties "Rockets". :eek: Culture shock!
Maximum Ice
14-07-2007, 10:07
Canadians have the best munchies. Mmmm, Smarties… (http://student.dcu.ie/~copains/fr489_02/experiences/images/smarties.jpg).

In Canada, we call your Smarties "Rockets". :eek: Culture shock!

Are you saying they don't have smarties in America?

They don't have ketchup chips, either.

Savages.
New Malachite Square
14-07-2007, 22:46
Are you saying they don't have smarties in America?

They don't have ketchup chips, either.

Savages.

[Smarties] are not distributed in the United States, where another type of confectionery uses the "Smarties" name, except by specialist importers. :(

How can a whole country not have ketchup chips? Mislead savages indeed! :D