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E3 2007: Thoughts?

Bolol
12-07-2007, 18:14
We're now about halfway through the convention, and I'd like to know what fellow gamers think thus far.

I mean...Microsoft clearly did not come out on top this time around with its conference, mostly because Peter Moore was a jackass. Also, Mass Effect still has some framerate issues, (which I'm sure they'll iron out, I trust Bioware), and Halo 3 left many people with a feeling of "eh...". However, Microsoft did open up its doors after hours to several game journalists to play the first level of Halo 3 on campaign mode, and IGN claims that it's "better than the multiplayer".

Sony's conference, on the other hand, was much stronger, attributed to the fact that their spokesperson wasn't a jerkoff. Clearly, their two biggest sellers are Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots, and Killzone 2. MGS4's trailer, despite its lack of gameplay footage, suceeded in blowing my mind, as always. Konami will be having another, smaller conference later, where hopefully we will see some more. Killzone 2 however...left me, personally, a little "meh". The graphics look fantastic, absolutely, (I especially liked the level of expression on the soldiers' faces), but right now, it looks like just another FPS, and not much better than what Halo 3 looks like right now. What MS doesn't have, and Sony does however, is a price drop on the PS3, to the tune of 100 USD, certainly a good thing (I still think it's too pricy though).

Nintendo's conference I have not been keeping up on, so I'd like to hear a bit more from everyone. One good thing though: we won't have to wait 'till next year for Brawl!

In other news: non-exclusive console titles look amazing at this point. Resident Evil 5, Silent Hill 5, Assassin's Creed, Grand Theft Auto 4 (drools), Mercenaries 2...It is a good year for gaming to be sure.

So what do you think? With the way things are going, will Sony come out on top for this year's E3? Will Microsoft? Nintendo? I don't know, I don't argue those things, because all it does is bring in fanboys, and I hate fanboys!
Hydesland
12-07-2007, 18:18
GTA4 looks "OMGWTF" amazing.
Fleckenstein
12-07-2007, 18:26
Rock Band. 'Nuff said.
Copiosa Scotia
12-07-2007, 18:29
Mass Effect looks freaking awesome. I'm not too worried about them resolving the framerate issues.

To be totally honest, that's the only game I've really bothered to keep up with.
Bolol
12-07-2007, 18:38
Mass Effect looks freaking awesome. I'm not too worried about them resolving the framerate issues.

Yeah. I mean, if you can't create a game with a clean framerate, then what the fuck are you doing in the gaming industry. They'll fix it, for sure. They did create an "RPG of the Year" after all.
Ferrous Oxide
12-07-2007, 18:46
I stopped liking E3 after they became cocks and made it completely industry-only. PAX for the win.
Pure Metal
12-07-2007, 18:53
GTA4 looks "OMGWTF" amazing.

the trailers have left me with a real "meh" feeling. it just looked like more of the same with slightly better graphics (and this was the HD trailer on my HDTV over xbox live), and probably a worse soundtrack.

didn't see anything that made me go 'wow', like when i first saw GTA4 (i think) where it had motorcycles, or when i first saw the fighter jet in San Andreas...



edit: reading up on it, it looks like you can't fly planes any more (:(), you can't change your physique or hairstyle (i liked the customisation in SA :(), but there are a number of little things that sound pretty nifty.
Andaluciae
12-07-2007, 18:59
I'm officially a generation behind on every single miserable level of the gaming world, save handhelds alone.
Andaluciae
12-07-2007, 19:01
the trailers have left me with a real "meh" feeling. it just looked like more of the same with slightly better graphics (and this was the HD trailer on my HDTV over xbox live), and probably a worse soundtrack.

didn't see anything that made me go 'wow', like when i first saw GTA4 (i think) where it had motorcycles, or when i first saw the fighter jet in San Andreas...

As much as I hate to admit it, I never figured out how to fly that fighter jet. Only vehicle in GTA that has ever stumped me.

Or maybe I am flying it right, and the controls for it merely leave a lot to be desired.
Bolol
12-07-2007, 19:06
the trailers have left me with a real "meh" feeling. it just looked like more of the same with slightly better graphics (and this was the HD trailer on my HDTV over xbox live), and probably a worse soundtrack.

didn't see anything that made me go 'wow', like when i first saw GTA4 (i think) where it had motorcycles, or when i first saw the fighter jet in San Andreas...

I don't know about graphics. I think they are a HUEG step above the PS2 and Xbox iterations. But I get what you're saying about "wow". But if I know my GTA, and I do, I'm certain they'll have a lot of interesting things to keep us hooked, vast exploration possibilities, and an good storyline to boot (something pivitol to the GTA series)

edit: reading up on it, it looks like you can't fly planes any more (:(), you can't change your physique or hairstyle...

WHA!? HULK SMASH!!! Did they cave to Jack Thompson!?

Do they still have helicopters? Please?
Pure Metal
12-07-2007, 19:20
I don't know about graphics. I think they are a HUEG step above the PS2 and Xbox iterations. But I get what you're saying about "wow". But if I know my GTA, and I do, I'm certain they'll have a lot of interesting things to keep us hooked, vast exploration possibilities, and an good storyline to boot (something pivitol to the GTA series)


yeah, of that i have no doubt. as long as the city is big and you can do most of the stuff you could way back in GTA1, it'll still be mondo fun :)

i've loved the series since the first one (ie the original top-down one), and they have never disappointed. Vice City was my favourite, largely for the soundtrack :D
i'll still be getting IV no matter what

though i have to say the graphics didn't look a huge amount better than San Andreas did/does on my laptop. especially if you download some of the cracks to give you better view depth and stuff. we'll see what it looks like for real soon enough - wikipedia said the animations were way more natural than previous versions due to using a physics engine rather than predefined animations.


WHA!? HULK SMASH!!! Did they cave to Jack Thompson!?

Do they still have helicopters? Please?

yup, helicopters, but no planes. i loved the jet plane from SA so much! :(


on a non-GTA note, i'll have to look into Mass Effect, cos i've been out of the gaming loop for... well... years now. looking forward to Fable 2 - anything about that at E3?
Hydesland
12-07-2007, 19:24
the trailers have left me with a real "meh" feeling. it just looked like more of the same with slightly better graphics (and this was the HD trailer on my HDTV over xbox live), and probably a worse soundtrack.


I dunno, I think it looks pretty cool. The city has a real cool gangland look.


edit: reading up on it, it looks like you can't fly planes any more (:(), you can't change your physique or hairstyle (i liked the customisation in SA :(), but there are a number of little things that sound pretty nifty.

:eek: where are you getting this info??
Bolol
12-07-2007, 19:27
yup, helicopters, but no planes. i loved the jet plane from SA so much! :(


on a non-GTA note, i'll have to look into Mass Effect, cos i've been out of the gaming loop for... well... years now. looking forward to Fable 2 - anything about that at E3?

Whew...Okay...then maybe at the very least they'll have the Apache...

And yes, you will DEFINATELY have to look into Mass Effect. Imagine it kind of like KOTOR, but multiply everything by 10. And yes, they have information on Fable 2. But, to be honest with you, I haven't kept up much on it.
Fleckenstein
12-07-2007, 19:28
As much as I hate to admit it, I never figured out how to fly that fighter jet. Only vehicle in GTA that has ever stumped me.

Or maybe I am flying it right, and the controls for it merely leave a lot to be desired.


I think it was really touchy for a jet, but it did take me a few tries to remember and change the angle of the thrusters. It was a VTOL jump jet kind of plane, after all.
Bolol
12-07-2007, 19:31
BTW: Just checked out the Mario: Galaxy trailer. Platforming supreme!
Pure Metal
12-07-2007, 19:31
I dunno, I think it looks pretty cool. The city has a real cool gangland look.
i must be a snob... i always stayed away from the gangland areas as soon as i could in the last games :p



:eek: where are you getting this info??

erm.... wikipedia.... http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/7836/embarrassed011eo8.gif
Nimarland
12-07-2007, 19:46
Nintendo is ZAPPIN the competition.. but will it last?

I hope so :)
Soviestan
12-07-2007, 19:57
its the greatest thing ever.
New Manvir
12-07-2007, 20:57
Everything looks awesome...Infamous (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infamous_%28video_game%29) caught my eye though...it looks to be really good
Vandal-Unknown
12-07-2007, 20:59
My general attitude to E3 nowadays : "Meh".
Ambrose-Douglas
12-07-2007, 21:09
I thought Microsoft came out on top, mostly for Call of Duty 4. I was worried it was just going to be another WWII rehash, but they really added some new stuff, and it looks cool.

Halo 3 disappointed me a little. Some of the things were hard to pick up on (such as Johnson getting his ass kicked by the Brute) and not knowing who the new voice is at the beginning pisses me off. It's too deep to be Truth's, so it may be the guy who replaced Tartarus. They showed some new and interesting plot items, as well as some stuff you can do in gameplay, such as running with the turret... tres cool.

The graphics looked like an improvement, especially with lighting, but they weren't leaps and bounds over Halo 2, which is what I was expecting. It'll be an interesting game. Cortana falling was interesting, maybe she's finally overloading her processors and "dying". I'm glad the Arbiter is still around. I keep looking for glimpses of the other Spartans, but I haven't seen them, which is also disappointing (read the book "First Strike" by Eric Nylund, it's canon and it has Linda and Fred living I think, Kelly is alive but is with Dr. Halsey somewhere (which I fully expect to be explained in Halo 3), and one other might be alive). Still, I think the game looks cool. Now just to get a 360.
Szanth
12-07-2007, 21:14
I'm interested in Fable 2, Fallout 3, and another game I can't seem to remember exactly - Cross-something.
Ifreann
12-07-2007, 21:15
I never even knew E3 was on.
New Malachite Square
12-07-2007, 21:39
I never even knew E3 was on.

Me neither, until about 3 days ago. They killed E3… *sobs*
Turquoise Days
12-07-2007, 22:25
I never even knew E3 was on.

I only found out about it whilst looking up the latest Civ IV expansion. It has mechs! And Zeppelins!
Ferrous Oxide
12-07-2007, 22:34
Me neither, until about 3 days ago. They killed E3… *sobs*

PAX ftw.
The Plenty
12-07-2007, 23:00
I'm waiting for Spore.
Zouloukistan
13-07-2007, 00:14
<3 Age of Empires 3: the Asian Dynasties.

Well, just because it's an AoE game I'll buy it :p
Pure Metal
13-07-2007, 00:19
I'm waiting for Spore.

mmm yeah :)
Bolol
13-07-2007, 02:42
Halo 3 disappointed me a little. Some of the things were hard to pick up on (such as Johnson getting his ass kicked by the Brute) and not knowing who the new voice is at the beginning pisses me off. It's too deep to be Truth's, so it may be the guy who replaced Tartarus. They showed some new and interesting plot items, as well as some stuff you can do in gameplay, such as running with the turret... tres cool.

The graphics looked like an improvement, especially with lighting, but they weren't leaps and bounds over Halo 2, which is what I was expecting. It'll be an interesting game. Cortana falling was interesting, maybe she's finally overloading her processors and "dying". I'm glad the Arbiter is still around. I keep looking for glimpses of the other Spartans, but I haven't seen them, which is also disappointing (read the book "First Strike" by Eric Nylund, it's canon and it has Linda and Fred living I think, Kelly is alive but is with Dr. Halsey somewhere (which I fully expect to be explained in Halo 3), and one other might be alive). Still, I think the game looks cool. Now just to get a 360.

For someone so disappointed, you seem excited. :p
Fleckenstein
13-07-2007, 02:43
mmm yeah :)

But its more than a year away. :(
Dryks Legacy
13-07-2007, 02:50
Our net's slowed. E3 is currently agony. One of the things I do know though, I'm probably not going to be see Super Smash around here until next year. I'm pissed.