NationStates Jolt Archive

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glxnPal8PbM


This is very moving and if you do have the time, watch all of it.

I am not a fan of this war, but I haven't posted this for that reason. I posted it to show how much people care.

Interesting link, thanks.

I'm sorry, but no matter what you throw at me, nothing will persuade me to support the Democrat's "drop everything and run like cowards" policy.

That's very emotional thanks for sharing.

thats Deadset

Where are the crosses/sickles for the dead Iraqis? Much more numerous, but apparently worthless.

Where are the crosses/sickles for the dead Iraqis? Much more numerous, but apparently worthless.

They're the bad guys, obviously. Get with the times, Fass.

Where are the crosses/sickles for the dead Iraqis? Much more numerous, but apparently worthless.

They're Muslims. Muslim burial consists of wrapping the deceased in a cloth and dumping them in a hole (AFAIK, that's true). That's why they get nothing.

what a great way to ruin a day at the beach...

They're Muslims. Muslim burial consists of wrapping the deceased in a cloth and dumping them in a hole (AFAIK, that's true). That's why they get nothing.

no if they are particularly religious they will be given a burial more or less like anyone else (only the grave will face Mecca and such)

I don't know where you got your information from:confused:

what a great way to ruin a day at the beach...



no if they are particularly religious they will be given a burial more or less like anyone else (only the grave will face Mecca and such)

I don't know where you got your information from:confused:

Anyone else except Hindus, Buddhists, and (IIRC) Sikhs.

So mostly "Anyone else" who's an Abrahmic.

Where are the crosses/sickles for the dead Iraqis? Much more numerous, but apparently worthless.

One of the few times I agree with you.

Its all nice to remember our dead, but their dead are far greater in number. Do their mums, dads, brothers and sisters not mean as much as our own? It makes no sense.

I don't know where you got your information from:confused:

Racism for Dummies.

They're the bad guys, obviously. Get with the times, Fass.If they're the bad guys, who were the US thinking to liberate with their Iraq invasion again? The oil?

If they're the bad guys, who were the US thinking to liberate with their Iraq invasion again? The oil?

Are you incapable of understanding sarcasm?

They're Muslims. Muslim burial consists of wrapping the deceased in a cloth and dumping them in a hole (AFAIK, that's true). That's why they get nothing.

As far as you know, eh?

Not very far, apparently.

This is actually an ANTI WAR protest Fass, that's the point, it's not graves, clearly nobody is buried on the beach. These guys lay out the crosses every Sunday and then pack them all up again. They are not trying to say that the Iraqi dead, or the Canadian or British or Australian or all of the other coalition forces dead are any less valid, any less wrong and any less a murderous waste of lives. I think it is an illegal and dreadful war, with no good coming from it for the people of either side.

One of the few times I agree with you.

Its all nice to remember our dead, but their dead are far greater in number. Do their mums, dads, brothers and sisters not mean as much as our own? It makes no sense.

Better question, why should I care about either?

They're Muslims. Muslim burial consists of wrapping the deceased in a cloth and dumping them in a hole (AFAIK, that's true). That's why they get nothing.

Whereas traditional Western burial consists of encasing the deceased in bits of a dead tree, and then dumping them in a hole.

Whereas traditional Western burial consists of encasing the deceased in bits of a dead tree, and then dumping them in a hole.

Both of them are entirely too space inefficient.

We burn out dead. Takes up less space.

Both of them are entirely too space inefficient.

We burn out dead. Takes up less space.

Or we could put them in… an ALTERNATE DIMENSION! Whoa!

Edit: I also like the Parsis' way. That is pure, unbridled awesomeness.

I, for one, would be entirely incapable of throwing something like that into the ground and making it stick, let alone getting it to be upright and fairly uniform.

I, for one, would be entirely incapable of throwing something like that into the ground and making it stick, let alone getting it to be upright and fairly uniform.

You must believe…

Or we could put them in… an ALTERNATE DIMENSION! Whoa!

Edit: I also like the Parsis' way. That is pure, unbridled awesomeness.

Zoarastrianism in general is pretty awesome. Though I don't necessarily like the thought of me being eaten by vultures.

Unfortunately, a lot of them are assimilated, and just going the cremaate/bury route.

Though I did see a Dokhma while I was in India, back in '98.

Unfortunately, a lot of them are assimilated, and just going the cremaate/bury route.

BORING!
I mean, worms? Yuk. Besides, with the vulture way, you have the potential of being buried all over town!

How did we get on this subject, exactly? :p

Better question, why should I care about either?

Do you have to ask such a question? Why would you not care about protecting the life of human beings?

Do you have to ask such a question? Why would you not care about protecting the life of human beings?

My spirit was crushed a long time ago. Since then I have become a bitter and apathetic. I care about people dieing whom I will never know! That changes everything!

My spirit was crushed a long time ago. Since then I have become a bitter and apathetic. I care about people dieing whom I will never know! That changes everything!

It changes more than you might think.

My spirit was crushed a long time ago. Since then I have become a bitter and apathetic. I care about people dieing whom I will never know! That changes everything!

It called having a conscience. And besides, because what YOU may think, may or may not help some stranger, and even if its a slim chance, isn't it a least one that you might want to take?

It changes more than you might think.

Source?

It called having a conscience. And besides, because what YOU may think, may or may not help some stranger, and even if its a slim chance, isn't it a least one that you might want to take?

I give money to homeless people I pass in Atlantic City, I take in wounded pets until they can manage on their own.

As for people in Iraq? Meh.

What really fucking kills me is how many of these guys singed up because they needed money for college. They weren't nationalistic goons, they were bright young men and women who couldn't afford anything else because their country isn't civilized enough to pay for university education.

What really fucking kills me is how many of these guys singed up because they needed money for college. They weren't nationalistic goons, they were bright young men and women who couldn't afford anything else because their country isn't civilized enough to pay for university education.

Oh, but we're capitalist. And you know, the only other option is the opposite of capitalism is Communism. And communism is bad. Thus we shall be capitalist. Except that our Politicians have their hands so far down Corporate pockets that they are now masturbating them, and are essentially keeping massive monopolies intact to screw us out of every last penny. But it's still capitalist.

Go home you plinko commie Bolshevik red bastard!

What really fucking kills me is how many of these guys singed up because they needed money for college. They weren't nationalistic goons, they were bright young men and women who couldn't afford anything else because their country isn't civilized enough to pay for university education.

Thats why 2 of my buddies are in there. Damnit :(

I'm sorry, but no matter what you throw at me, nothing will persuade me to support the Democrat's "drop everything and run like cowards" policy.

Staying there is just making things worse. Also don't give me taht coward BS. This country was built on many reatreats in the beginning that Pissed off the British.


What about those who aren't Christian? I don't really mind, but i'd be pissed if my child was represented with a cross. I would offer an alternate item, however, at my expense.

What really fucking kills me is how many of these guys singed up because they needed money for college. They weren't nationalistic goons, they were bright young men and women who couldn't afford anything else because their country isn't civilized enough to pay for university education.

Yeah man... I have a fair amount of friends in the ROTC so they can pay for school. In a few years, who knows if they'll need crosses of their own... If I believed in a God, I'd be praying my heart out every night for this fuck-up to end. :(

This war... how many more men and women will have to die? How many more civilians will have to be killed? When will it all end? How many more times will the deaths of 9/11 have to be exploited, used as a political tool to justify slaughter?

I would say that it is sad that these young men and women died for nothing, but obviously there was some good came out of it. :rolleyes:

Halliburton Watch (http://www.halliburtonwatch.org/)

Cheney's Halliburton stock up 3,281% (http://www.thehindsightfactor.com/cheneys_halliburton_stock_up_3_281)


Halliburton Company (http://quicktake.morningstar.com/stocknet/Income10.aspx?Country=USA&Symbol=HAL&stocktab=finance)

The Bush Family's War Profiteering (http://www.democracyrising.us/content/view/57/81/)

30 Years Of War Profiteering Ahead For Western Oil Companies (http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/05/12/30-years-of-war-profiteering-ahead-for-western-oil-companies/)

They're Muslims. Muslim burial consists of wrapping the deceased in a cloth and dumping them in a hole (AFAIK, that's true). That's why they get nothing.

I believe you confused the Ancient Egyptians with Muslims.

What really fucking kills me is how many of these guys singed up because they needed money for college. They weren't nationalistic goons, they were bright young men and women who couldn't afford anything else because their country isn't civilized enough to pay for university education.

because we don't have access to scholarships or student loans or government grants? oh, that's right we totally do.

Are you incapable of understanding sarcasm?


Wait, who can't understand sarcasm? And for who ever wants to know; I think we have to realize that American lives are more important than Iraqi lives, and that Americans are killing just as many iraqis that would die in a civil war. Fuck them. support our troops and get them the hell out of there. Let the shitheads fix their own problems (not that we didnt create them), but enough is enough.

I believe you confused the Ancient Egyptians with Muslims.

No, no.

Muslims=Brown people.
Egyptians=Brown people.

Hence, Muslims=Egyptians. Thus, by extremely sound logic, everything the Egyptians did the Muslims do.

[/sarcasm]

because we don't have access to scholarships or student loans or government grants? oh, that's right we totally do.

The vast majority of us do not. How many people do you know that went to a decent University for free?