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I have always wondered how the Emperor of Mankind's will return to his full power?

For me I believe that when the REAL Tyranid invansion begins mankind will be forced into a depserate postion and it will be its darkest hour, at which the Emperor will finally return and destroy the Hive Mind. As such the Tryanids will be a LOT easier to defeat and the end of the Tryanids will occure on another great Crusade.

Or the Emperor of Mankind will return after the C'tan return to the galaxy at full power. Due to their sheer power and the strength of their Necron armies mankind will nearly fail till at Holy Terra the Golden Throne at last is opened and he returns with the power to destroy the C'tan and Chaos gods and at last return the galaxy to humans.;)

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As a jock, it is my duty to give nerds a hard time.

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As a jock, it is my duty to give nerds a hard time.

I'd think that simply being on NSG would prevent you from being allowed to do that.

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As a jock, it is my duty to give nerds a hard time.

I'm in an odd position...I get identified as "jock", "fratboy" or "bro" more often than anything else, yet my friends are "scenesters", "hipsters" and "nerds"...

Ah well...*gives OP a wedgie*

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As a jock, it is my duty to give nerds a hard time.As a tall nerd who works out it is my job to release Giant Killer Monkeys on jocks who give nerds a hard time.:p

*Throws a barrel of a dozen rabid Giant Monkeys at the Jock who uses the chemical for iron oxide as a name*

I have always wondered how the Emperor of Mankind's will return to his full power?


He doesn't?

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As a jock, it is my duty to give nerds a hard time.

as we don't have jocks here in OZ you get called another name

The Emperor Protects!

*Does sign of the Aquila*

Personally... I don't know. But I remember (a long time ago) while reading some book or somesuch there was this "Cult of the Stargod". They were a bunch of radical Inquisitiors if I remember correctly. They believed that the only way for the Emperor to return was to kill him in the Golden Throne and let him be reborn again (like so many times before).

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Personally... I don't know. But I remember (a long time ago) while reading some book or somesuch there was this "Cult of the Stargod". They were a bunch of radical Inquisitiors if I remember correctly. They believed that the only way for the Emperor to return was to kill him in the Golden Throne and let him be reborn again (like so many times before).

:)Makes you wonder a being with some much power can be kept impriosned for so long, without a real reason behind just has to make you wonder.

I have always wondered how the Emperor of Mankind's will return to his full power?
Mankind's what?

(I'm afraid to ask.)

As a jock who plays nerd games, it is my duty to show other jocks The Light.

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ZOMG!

Makes you wonder a being with some much power can be kept impriosned for so long, without a real reason behind just has to make you wonder.

Well the reason they keep him alive and attached to the Golden Throne is because of the Astropaths. They're the psykers who guide starships around the galaxy using the Emperor as a sort of beacon, because they're psychically connected to him.

If he were to die, space travel as it is in the 40k Universe would be significantly more difficult for humans. Or at the very least it'd need to be seriously revamped.

Excuse me just for a second -

NNNNNNEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRDS!

I don't know about W40k that much, but from some third-person observations of the Emperor, he isn't a god nor will he ever return. I think he's just some brain in a jar in the Himalayas.

Oh you silly Imperials. The Emperor is dead, but the Greater Good always prevails ;)
Now, if the Imperium could get over its xenophobia and talk with the Tau, maybe work out an agreement to start mass producing Tau pulse rifles and railguns across the galaxy...well then, I'd think the joint Imperial-Tau alliance would quickly and effeciently kick the crap out of everybody else, tyranids included.
Can you IMAGINE what the Space Marines could DO with Tau technology?

Too bad Ultra-Jesus' philosophy of killing hostile aliens got twisted into killing ALL aliens.

EDIT:
In regards to the Emperor, from what I've read he might still be biologically alive, but his soul/personality/asura/whatever is gone. The daily psyker sacrifices are only to keep the Astronomicon running so the Imperium doesnt collapse.

The guy was, basically, human. An enourmously powerful psyker, since he was apparently born around 6,000 BC or something, but not a God or anything like that.

well, i play 40k, and i run a gaurd army. it does not fight for the Imperium however-
they are the Coalition, a democratic empire that spreads free relion and democracy throughout the galaxy. it's pop is 800 billion, small compared to the imperium, and it's home world is Carlius-Centauri.

Death to the false emperor! long live freedom!

Typical Tzeentchian scheming.
DIE CHAOS SCUM!

To be honest, theres a rather good reason the Emperor went about wiping out religion. In a galaxy with things like Tzeentch in it, it would be oh-so-easy to convert whole swathes of people just by corrupting one or two within a religion.
Of course, even without religion, that happened anyway. Good ol' Horus.

It's nice to have a hobby.:)

It's nice to have a hobby.:)

The sad thing is, I dont even play the tabletop game :P
I just like the background and some of the books. Ciaphas Cain is my hero :D

I have always wondered how the Emperor of Mankind's will return to his full power?

For me I believe that when the REAL Tyranid invansion begins mankind will be forced into a depserate postion and it will be its darkest hour, at which the Emperor will finally return and destroy the Hive Mind. As such the Tryanids will be a LOT easier to defeat and the end of the Tryanids will occure on another great Crusade.

Or the Emperor of Mankind will return after the C'tan return to the galaxy at full power. Due to their sheer power and the strength of their Necron armies mankind will nearly fail till at Holy Terra the Golden Throne at last is opened and he returns with the power to destroy the C'tan and Chaos gods and at last return the galaxy to humans.;)


He's a prisoner inside the Golden Throne. He's ineffect held hostage by the Inquisition. However, he won't destroy the Chaos Armies! HE IS NOT A GOD! HE IS NOT A GOD! HE IS NOT A GOD! Death shall come to those who foolishly oppose the glory of Chaos! Accept it and it shall be merciful! *Ends mindless ramblings*

I'm sorry....

Imperium needs to stop being psuedo-religious fanatics and stopattacking Tau. Tau need to stop forcing races to join them, and instead join the imperium. Chaos needs to stop with the LSD use, Eldar need to Get the hell over themselves, and Orks need to die.

Any questions?

Imperium needs to stop being psuedo-religious fanatics and stopattacking Tau. Tau need to stop forcing races to join them, and instead join the imperium. Chaos needs to stop with the LSD use, Eldar need to Get the hell over themselves, and Orks need to die.

Any questions?

Ya see, Orkses neva loze, 'cause if we'ze dead, we'ze dead, so nobuddy carez. If we'z win, we winz. An' if we runz away, den we can allayz come back fer annover go.
So Orkzes neva lose, see?

He's in effect held hostage by the Inquisition. .

No, he is lovingly tended and dutifully cared for by the Inquisistion, whose only reward is the knowledge that they are saving mankind by their actions.

Never played with the figures but when 40K first came out I used to role-play using WFRP (Warhammer Fantasy Role-Play) rules and the 40K setting.

Twas most agreeable.

He's a prisoner inside the Golden Throne. He's ineffect held hostage by the Inquisition. However, he won't destroy the Chaos Armies! HE IS NOT A GOD! HE IS NOT A GOD! HE IS NOT A GOD! Death shall come to those who foolishly oppose the glory of Chaos! Accept it and it shall be merciful! *Ends mindless ramblings*

I'm sorry....

Die heretic scum!

Either way, I personally believe that the only way for him to return is to let him die or kill him. The latest Horus Heresy books (IIRC) state that the first "Emperor" was created by joining several powerful "souls" of psykers in the warp. And that he is (well, was), constantly reborn.

So... if anyone kills him, he should be coming back to kick everyones collective arses. :)

Either way Imperial Guard is the way to go ;) , I love Blood Angels but man, painting all that red... Hence why I've started a small (but potent) Ultramarines force. :)

He's a vegetable.

Join the Tau Empire, they're the future! They will bring peace and harmony to the universe.. just ask the kroot!

He's a vegetable.

Join the Tau Empire, they're the future! They will bring peace and harmony to the universe.. just ask the kroot!

Huh? Sorry, I was too busy eating this guy I just killed. What were you saying?

The Warhammer universe is far too dark and bloody. Is there any good sci-fi literature coming out of it?

I'm in an odd position...I get identified as "jock", "fratboy" or "bro" more often than anything else, yet my friends are "scenesters", "hipsters" and "nerds"...

Ah well...*gives OP a wedgie*

huh? I sorta get the Jock, and the Fratboy, and Bro, but what the hell are scenesters, and hipsters?

Imperium needs to stop being psuedo-religious fanatics and stopattacking Tau. Tau need to stop forcing races to join them, and instead join the imperium. Chaos needs to stop with the LSD use, Eldar need to Get the hell over themselves, and Orks need to die.

Any questions?

You forgot the necrons :o

He's a vegetable.

lulz, but true


Death to the False Vegtable-Emperor

The Warhammer universe is far too dark and bloody. Is there any good sci-fi literature coming out of it?

Ciaphas Cain: Hero of the Imperium
Read it. Love it.

The Warhammer universe is far too dark and bloody. Is there any good sci-fi literature coming out of it?

Too dark and bloody? That's much of the appeal of it. I've always had a thing for dystopian futures, rather than the bright and shining futures of Star Trek and Star Wars.

As for books, you may like the Gaunt's Ghosts series, the Eisenhorn series or the Ravenor series, all by Dan Abnett. Some don't like his books because they're not as dark and gritty as some feel the 40k universe should be, but I rather like them. Personally, I really like the Eisenhorn and Ravenor series. Most 40k "novels" are of the trashy "Space Marines shoot up the bad guys and win!!!!" sort, but Abnett's a cut above the normal 40k books. That's not to say that he's a great author, because he's not, but he's readable.

The Imperial Guard are the TRUE Heroes of the Imperium, Normal Men with Flak Vests and Lasguns standing and holding the line against all sorts of Aliens who besiege the Imperium.

Anyway, about the Emperor or mankind, he is NOT dead, he CANNOT come back to "life" or else he'd trash the Inquisition who keep him in the throne and order death to ALL Aliens, afterwhich, he'd Reorganise the Inquisition and make sure they got the message(death to all those who would threaten the Imperium from outside and withen) as Captain Ardias said once.

The Inquisition knows what he'd do if they allowed the Ordo of Psykers(who caled themselves the, oh, umm, I forgot how to spell it, but it was a group of rogue Psykers who were going to kill the Emperor next chance they got to allow him to reborn.

The time of the Monkey Lord is over...you shall be reaped and your souls sacrificed for the glory of the true Eldar, death to monkey's death to all. Your souls are forfeit....now that that is out of the way...the emperor is done stick a fork in him.

You forgot the necrons :o

Dude, they're ROBOT ZOMBIES. You can't beat robot zombies.

I swear the god of death has it all figured out.

Oh, and Tyrinnids. They've got it figured out too.

Note: I'm a Tau player, and like their cause best out of all the races in 40K. They ARE a bit stuck up, though.

I guess I'll give my answers, if you bother to wade through the spam to get there.

I have always wondered how the Emperor of Mankind's will return to his full power?

He probably won't, because then the Imperium would actually have to do something.

For me I believe that when the REAL Tyranid invansion begins mankind will be forced into a depserate postion and it will be its darkest hour, at which the Emperor will finally return and destroy the Hive Mind. As such the Tryanids will be a LOT easier to defeat and the end of the Tryanids will occure on another great Crusade.

Probably not, in fact I'd say 99.99.% chance not, why? Because most of the WH40k world is deadlocked with races only destroyed when nobody plays with them much any more and expanding as more people play as them.
Personally I don't see the Tyranids dying out anytime soon and it'd be downright stupid to think they would.

Besides, Mankind's darkest hour has already been and gone.


Or the Emperor of Mankind will return after the C'tan return to the galaxy at full power. Due to their sheer power and the strength of their Necron armies mankind will nearly fail till at Holy Terra the Golden Throne at last is opened and he returns with the power to destroy the C'tan and Chaos gods and at last return the galaxy to humans.

Riiiiiight, no.
Unless I'm wrong, which I'm not, the Golden Throne is not a prison, it's more a life-support machine, if he was taken off it he'd die.
Thus, the Emperor must die and be reborn to return as a god once again but in the time it'd take to do that the Imperium would fall apart again without the Astronomicon to guide it, then it'd have to re-established once the Emperor was reincarnated and in that time the Chaos, Tyranids, Tau and Ork would have a field day claiming new territories.
Remember, the Emperor is a god, but that doesn't mean he could beat all the Chaos gods at once.

The time of the Monkey Lord is over...you shall be reaped and your souls sacrificed for the glory of the true Eldar, death to monkey's death to all. Your souls are forfeit....now that that is out of the way...the emperor is done stick a fork in him.

Don't you mean Monkeigh? I mean I'm an Imperial player, but I do not limit myself to the dogmatic views of the Inquisition.

so I'm fluent in Orkspeak and some Eldar, lol.

I have a question.

Did the Steel Legion win the battle of Armagedon or did the Green Skins finally kill them all?

The Emperor will return when somebody finally notices that the Golden Throne's OS is locked up and only needs to be rebooted.

New Stalinberg said:Did the Steel Legion win the battle of Armagedon or did the Green Skins finally kill them all?

My Anwser: the Steel Legion won the battle for Armageddon. the end of the wars on Armageddon stopped when Commissar Yarrick went out and chased down Gazkull or however you spell his name, killing the Ork Warlord.

I have always wondered how the Emperor of Mankind's will return to his full power?


It's been so long...

The answer is - it's already happened.

The problem is - I can't remember where it's written. "Rouge Trader Second Ed" or "Realms of Chaos: The Lost and The Damned", probably.

In one of the early texts, there is a description of 'incarnations' of the Emperor being born and forming small cults of personality. The strong suggestion is that one of these messianic figures will eventually become powerful enough to subsume the power of the dying Emperor.

So, um..

Why don't they just get their apothecaries to heal the Emperor? From what I've read he's only mortally wounded physically, unless I missed something.

It's been so long...

The answer is - it's already happened.

The problem is - I can't remember where it's written. "Rouge Trader Second Ed" or "Realms of Chaos: The Lost and The Damned", probably.

In one of the early texts, there is a description of 'incarnations' of the Emperor being born and forming small cults of personality. The strong suggestion is that one of these messianic figures will eventually become powerful enough to subsume the power of the dying Emperor.

Which is VERY unlikely.

Read. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emperor_of_Mankind_%28Warhammer_40%2C000%29)

The most plausible rebirth seems to be the "star child" hypothesis; just as the emotional excess of the Eldar called Slaanesh into being, so to the desperation of Mankind will cause the Star Child to manifest itself as the saviour of mankind.

Dude, they're ROBOT ZOMBIES. You can't beat robot zombies.

I swear the god of death has it all figured out.

Oh, and Tyrinnids. They've got it figured out too.

Note: I'm a Tau player, and like their cause best out of all the races in 40K. They ARE a bit stuck up, though.

Loser! Some of us fight for Slaanesh! Hooray for self-indulgent Emperor's children!

Loser! Some of us fight for Slaanesh! Hooray for self-indulgent Emperor's children!

Go fuck your... oh wait, you lot already do that.

Out of everyone in the whole universe, the Tau seem to be the nicest bunch if a bit condescending. But that's light years from killsyou/eatsyou/screwsyou/anyoralloftheabove.

Go fuck your... oh wait, you lot already do that.

Out of everyone in the whole universe, the Tau seem to be the nicest bunch if a bit condescending. But that's light years from killsyou/eatsyou/screwsyou/anyoralloftheabove.

Of course we do.

Have you read "Fulgrim"? His battle barge , when becoming Slaaneshi, is worth any amount of defending.

I've never truly liked the Tau to be honest. Preferable to the Imperium, admittedly, but then again, Chaos always struck me as being the Tau with balls.

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The line of thought you are following is dangerous, my friend.

Posing questions like this in a public way... Tststs. That is very unbecoming of a pius, Emperor-fearing man. For remember, what is a lifetime in servitude next to an eternity of damnation. Rather, burn thyself in the flame of purity. And carry the Emperor's will as your torch, with it destroy the shadows.

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By Him on Earth, stop it!

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There is only the Emperor, and He is our Shield and Protector.

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So, um..

Why don't they just get their apothecaries to heal the Emperor? From what I've read he's only mortally wounded physically, unless I missed something.

Because the apothecaries aren't actually very good at what they do: the Golden Age of technology is over, all they've got left are half-remembered techniques shrouded in mysticism. Presumably this is why they can't heal the space marine veterans encased in dreadnoughts either.

It's also debatable whether they actually want to revive the Emperor: the High Lords are probably quite attached to their power and influence. There are suggestions that a revival would trigger a civil war, with many worlds and citizens refusing to believe that their leader has returned to them.

Oh, and for the record: My mailman has just delivered Rebel Winter & Fulgrim - Visions of treachery for €5,45 ($7.51) each.

You will now find me in my reading chair on the balcony...