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Looks like Mama Cindy is going after big game. So, if Mama Cindy runs against Pelosi and you could vote in the election which one would you vote for, Mama Cindy or Nancy?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,288589,00.html

Ooh, threatening her. She wouldn't beat her in the race, period.

Plus, impeachment would repeat Clinton: enough to bring the charges, but not enough to convict.

Looks like Mama Cindy is going after big game. So, if Mama Cindy runs against Pelosi and you could vote in the election which one would you vote for, Mama Cindy or Nancy?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,288589,00.html
What a choice, Crazy Cindy or Red Nancy. I guess I'd vote for Cindy -- only because she would fill the position of House Fool that was vacated when another Cindy (McKinney) was defeated in her primary.

I wouldn't vote for either one. I'd love to see a race like that, though - what a sideshow! :D

Pelosi, if only because she's a politician, not an activist.

We all know what Sheehan thinks about the War in Iraq, but what about the economy? What about abortion? What about gay marriage? What about the who knows how many other political issues she'd have to deal with?

Sorry Cindy, but you need more than one trick to be in this show.

Looks like Cindy Sheehan wants more attention.

And power. Yess, my preciousss.

Ugh. No thank you, but "grieving mother" doesn't happen to meet my list of Qualities for Speaker of the House.

Red Nancy.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

What a choice, Crazy Cindy or Red Nancy. I guess I'd vote for Cindy -- only because she would fill the position of House Fool that was vacated when another Cindy (McKinney) was defeated in her primary.

I've never understood why American right wingers spend half their lives using red as an insult and the other half being proud of living in a red state.

I've never understood why American right wingers spend half their lives using red as an insult and the other half being proud of living in a red state.

I think the red state thing is an insult that the liberal news media attempts to use against us.

I've never understood why American right wingers spend half their lives using red as an insult and the other half being proud of living in a red state.

Not our fault - cable news networks decided we were "red" in 2000, I believe. The other usage predates that by at least 50 years. ;)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

You'll have to forgive Myrmidonisia, he's trapped in the 1950's and still thinks an accusation of communism says more about the accused than the accuser.

I think the red state thing is an insult that the liberal news media attempts to use against us.

LOL!

Oh and about the Cindy Sheehan thing... hopefully the reason why she is running is to bring an issue to the table. I hope she hasn't become so delusional as to think she could win.

Sorry Cindy, but you need more than one trick to be in this show.

If you're calling her a one-trick pony, that's completely unfair. She both bitches *and* moans. :p

You'll have to forgive Myrmidonisia, he's trapped in the 1950's and still thinks an accusation of communism says more about the accused than the accuser.

The funnier thing is that anyone could consider a politician from the Democratic Party left-wing. I know in the US politics is skewed towards the right, but it still cracks me up. :D

Not our fault - cable news networks decided we were "red" in 2000, I believe. The other usage predates that by at least 50 years. ;)

Ah, that explains a lot. I thought it was some traditional thing like our Labour party being red and the Torys being blue.

The funnier thing is that anyone could consider a politician from the Democratic Party left-wing. I know in the US politics is skewed towards the right, but it still cracks me up. :D

I don't believe "left" and "right" are meaningful paradigms in politics. They seem to mean only "us" and "them," nothing more.

Ah, that explains a lot. I thought it was some traditional thing like our Labour party being red and the Torys being blue.

I think it came about after those district-by-district maps were printed, showing that Gore's voters were concentrated in small areas. The map was shown on all the cable networks, and of course the Bush-voting districts were red, to sort of drown out the blue - had it been reversed, it wouldn't have looked as decisive. :p I think that's partially to blame.

LOL!

Oh and about the Cindy Sheehan thing... hopefully the reason why she is running is to bring an issue to the table. I hope she hasn't become so delusional as to think she could win.

and im sure her son would not want to see her doing this, running around the country, trying to stop a war before it is time. i dont like the war either, but we are stuck in it now. hopefuly the next president will take us out of iraq to where the actuall terrorist camps are, like afganistan

I think it came about after those district-by-district maps were printed, showing that Gore's voters were concentrated in small areas. The map was shown on all the cable networks, and of course the Bush-voting districts were red, to sort of drown out the blue - had it been reversed, it wouldn't have looked as decisive. :p I think that's partially to blame.

There's a decent wiki on it actually.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_state_vs._blue_state_divide

I don't believe "left" and "right" are meaningful paradigms in politics. They seem to mean only "us" and "them," nothing more.


Only in your screwy country. ;):D

There's a decent wiki on it actually.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_state_vs._blue_state_divide

Aha. +1 for my memory, at last. :p Seems it really was mostly post-2000. :)

I didn't expect to be back so soon, but the focus is different than it was before. Instead of talking and making accusations, we're going into communities and talking to the people who've been hurt by the Bush regime. We're finding out how we can help people.

On the bright side, at least she's changed things to try to help people...

Still would vote for Pelosi at this point.

Hmm, probably neither.

Not our fault - cable news networks decided we were "red" in 2000, I believe. The other usage predates that by at least 50 years. ;)
Just imagine if they had labeled the Democratic Party as Red... Well, there's some truth in that, I guess.

If you're calling her a one-trick pony, that's completely unfair. She both bitches *and* moans. :p

She can eh? Impressive. I can usually only manage to do one at a time :(

You'll have to forgive Myrmidonisia, he's trapped in the 1950's and still thinks an accusation of communism says more about the accused than the accuser.

Eh. He'll just live in his own world.

Eh. He'll just live in his own world.
As long as it's here in Georgia, I don't much mind.

Just imagine if they had labeled the Democratic Party as Red... Well, there's some truth in that, I guess.

Hahahahaha. Myrmidonisia, you are a card. :D

She can eh? Impressive. I can usually only manage to do one at a time :(

Politics makes for great contortionists. It just takes a little time. :p

She's a whiny bitch.

Red Nancy.

Snore.

There doesn't appear to be enough options on this poll. Frankly, I'd write in a candidate before I voted for either of these women.

Ugh. No thank you, but "grieving mother" doesn't happen to meet my list of Qualities for Speaker of the House.

Uhh, winning Pelosi's House Seat doesn't make her speaker.

Plus, impeachment would repeat Clinton: enough to bring the charges, but not enough to convict.

What? Have you been asleep for the last six years.

Pelosi. Sheehan is a crazy, but unlike Pelosi, she can't live off pure evil.

I'd vote for Pelosi, because Cindy Sheehan is a talentless whore whose campaign platform would consist of:

"OMFG my son died or whatever in Irak!!!!!!1111oneone - oh noes!"

Besides, what does Cindy Sheehan know about running a government? Maybe if she had some good ideas, I would reconsider, but until then...

Cindy Sheehan should be in office, somewhere, as a symbol of discontented America...but not in place of Nancy Pelosi.

If it weren't for right wingers frothing at the mouth, I'd never know what Sheehan was up to. And I live in this city.

Wow. This thread is chock-full of ignorant people. Speaker of the House is not a position that can be voted for; the party with the majority of seats in the House choses one of its own to become Speaker.

So, in light of that, I vote to abstain.

She's a whiny bitch.

But nowhere near as whiny as the Busheviks who somehow still believe she's a relevant threat to their power.

Like Forrest "Eustrusca" Horn for instance. Man, he'd be yanking himself dry if he was still on NSG and saw this. "Dishonorable Woman" this, "Traitourous" that...

I would rather trim my nails with a power saw than vote for Cindy Sheehan. She needs to shut the fuck up and go away. She has shot herself in the feet more often than Barney Fife with bullets.

She did a nice job bringing the anti-war effort to life. But I think she seriously overestimates her value to anything.

If I lived in her district, Nancy Pelosi to retain her Congressional seat.

~S

Heck, if I lived in the district that the Speaker of the House is from, I'd vote for them regardless of their party...short of it being the Nazi Party, of course...but that's a whole different matter, ain't it?

What a choice, Crazy Cindy or Red Nancy. I guess I'd vote for Cindy -- only because she would fill the position of House Fool that was vacated when another Cindy (McKinney) was defeated in her primary.

:confused:

Pelosi. Sheehan's a nut by anyone's standards. That, and she's an anti-semite.

:confused:

It's a relic from the past. Red = Communist.

He missed the memo that the ebil communists are so 20 years ago.

It's a relic from the past. Red = Communist.

I know. The confusion was due to his calling Pelosi one.

Cindy Sheehan is planning to run against San Fran Nancy Pelosi!

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,288589,00.html

I for one think this is a great thing for the Bay Area and for America! If Cindy actually runs, I will contribute at least one dollar to her campaign :cool:

Say it with me, will you? RUN, CINDY, RUN!!!

Was the thread entitled "Cindy Sheehan May Run Against House Speaker Nancy Pelosi in 2008" not a big enough clue that this had already been posted?

Day late dollar short.

Go Go Go!

Show how much democrats really suck, by winning!

:)

Was the thread entitled "Cindy Sheehan May Run Against House Speaker Nancy Pelosi in 2008" not a big enough clue that this had already been posted?

What about replying with the usual, "We don't give a rat fuck about Cindy Sheehan"?

Was the thread entitled "Cindy Sheehan May Run Against House Speaker Nancy Pelosi in 2008" not a big enough clue that this had already been posted?

Occeandrive posted it too. So what? Different approaches to the same issue.

Occeandrive posted it too. So what? Different approaches to the same issue.

Oh, you mean spam.

Oh, you mean spam.

Not at all, Monty.

I wholeheartedly endorse Sheehan's running against San Fran Nan. Why? First, because I absolutely despise SFN and would probably support anyone running against her. Second, because Sheehan's well-known enough to actually make it a fight, thus forcing SFN to expend more resources than she otherwise would have defending her seat. Third, because if Sheehan actually wins, a sitting Democrat Speaker will have been thrown out of Congress, which would be a sight to behold in and of itself--even Jim Wright only resigned, he wasn't voted out.

Not at all, Monty.

I wholeheartedly endorse Sheehan's running against San Fran Nan. Why? First, because I absolutely despise SFN and would probably support anyone running against her. Second, because Sheehan's well-known enough to actually make it a fight, thus forcing SFN to expend more resources than she otherwise would have defending her seat. Third, because if Sheehan actually wins, a sitting Democrat Speaker will have been thrown out of Congress, which would be a sight to behold in and of itself--even Jim Wright only resigned, he wasn't voted out.

Would you vote for a Communist Muslim trannie?

She doesn't keep her word.

Not at all, Monty.

I wholeheartedly endorse Sheehan's running against San Fran Nan. Why? First, because I absolutely despise SFN and would probably support anyone running against her. Second, because Sheehan's well-known enough to actually make it a fight, thus forcing SFN to expend more resources than she otherwise would have defending her seat. Third, because if Sheehan actually wins, a sitting Democrat Speaker will have been thrown out of Congress, which would be a sight to behold in and of itself--even Jim Wright only resigned, he wasn't voted out.

So post it in one of the other two threads about the issue. There is no need for three threads about the exact same thing.

I think she would make more money as a prostitute, even though she's pretty ugly looking.

That, and she's an anti-semite.

http://bani.anime.net/o_rly.jpg

Looks like Mama Cindy is going after big game. So, if Mama Cindy runs against Pelosi and you could vote in the election which one would you vote for, Mama Cindy or Nancy?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,288589,00.html


lol...both are complete twits,pelosi is a party hack and a typical extreme idiot that is never wrong,but sheehag is a twit of such a scale it cant be measured.
in a race of idiots,i would say pelosi hands down.
maybe sheehan did the whole, my poor kid thing to get to this point,way to go on capitilizing on your kids death to further your nothing life.
has she had any exsperiance i n government,has she even been on a freaking town council?
does she know anything about political science?
does she have any other agenda then using her sons death to get her ugly mug in the media?
i doubt it,she is unqualified,un educated and a bitter twit..an attention whore may be her only qualification.
pelosi at least has some education and political astuteness,even though she is stupid and un willing to listen to any other pov..makes her perfect for the lovely polarized gov we now enjoy.

I think she would make more money as a prostitute, even though she's pretty ugly looking.
I see you're happily and openly displaying your progressive attitudes towards women again, RO.

isn't here going to be any serious candidates for speaker?

I see you're happily and openly displaying your progressive attitudes towards women again, RO.

It's slightly better than his enlightened attitude on Muslims, have to admit.

It's slightly better than his enlightened attitude on Muslims, have to admit.

Although, sadly, that's not saying much.

It's slightly better than his enlightened attitude on Muslims, have to admit.
very true. you got me there.

May as well add in his attitude towards homosexuals while we're at it.

Cindy Sheehan is planning to run against San Fran Nancy Pelosi!

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,288589,00.html

I for one think this is a great thing for the Bay Area and for America! If Cindy actually runs, I will contribute at least one dollar to her campaign :cool:

Say it with me, will you? RUN, CINDY, RUN!!!
You are a funny as in weird kinda guy....

http://forums3.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11306269&postcount=81

Cindy Sheehan is a seditious whore and a disgrace to the memory of her son. I hope she stays on her hunger strike forever. That way we may finally be rid of her.

http://forums3.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11307063&postcount=101

Sheehan sells her services, namely a relentless, rabid vomit of hate-America screeching, to any enemy regime or psychotic leftist clique that will have her. WHORE.
So it will be "great for America" if Sheehan wins? :p

You are a funny as in weird kinda guy....

http://forums3.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11306269&postcount=81



http://forums3.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11307063&postcount=101


So it will be "great for America" if Sheehan wins? :p

It's just further proof that Busheviks like New Mitanni are the Masters of Flip Flop Fu.

On the other hand, if he keeps flip-flopping like this, he might end up saying "Muslims are people too!"

:D

It's just further proof that Busheviks like New Mitanni are the Masters of Flip Flop Fu.

On the other hand, if he keeps flip-flopping like this, he might end up saying "Muslims are people too!"

:D
"Flip Flop Fu" :D

Busheviks are now an endangered species? :)

So it will be "great for America" if Sheehan wins? :p

Maybe he thinks that would do damage to the Democrats?

Hmmm, If Cindy keeps up with her dead son, and 9/11, and how Bush suck, she may actually win.....

lol...both are complete twits,pelosi is a party hack and a typical extreme idiot that is never wrong,but sheehag is a twit of such a scale it cant be measured.
in a race of idiots,i would say pelosi hands down.
maybe sheehan did the whole, my poor kid thing to get to this point,way to go on capitilizing on your kids death to further your nothing life.
has she had any exsperiance i n government,has she even been on a freaking town council?
does she know anything about political science?
does she have any other agenda then using her sons death to get her ugly mug in the media?
i doubt it,she is unqualified,un educated and a bitter twit..an attention whore may be her only qualification.
pelosi at least has some education and political astuteness,even though she is stupid and un willing to listen to any other pov..makes her perfect for the lovely polarized gov we now enjoy.

Your argument might carry weight if you were remotely literate, understood basic grammar and could spell.

I don't pretend to think Cindy Sheehan is a total angel, but I don't think she believes that she is doing anything wrong, but the fact remains Ms. Sheehan is not in any way a good candidate to sit in the House and only a fool fights in a burning house.

~S

Hmmm, If Cindy keeps up with her dead son, and 9/11, and how Bush suck, she may actually win.....
Can't see it, especially since she would be running as an independent candidate.

By Allah, if I see one more damned thing about Cindy Sheehan, I'm going to explode.

By Allah, if I see one more damned thing about Cindy Sheehan, I'm going to explode.
*TGs pic of Cindy Sheehan*

Can't see it, especially since she would be running as an independent candidate.

Yea, but idiots are suckered in by the grieving mother who just wants to prevent other sons from dying in an unnecessary war angle.

Not at all, Monty.

I wholeheartedly endorse Sheehan's running against San Fran Nan. Why? First, because I absolutely despise SFN and would probably support anyone running against her. Second, because Sheehan's well-known enough to actually make it a fight, thus forcing SFN to expend more resources than she otherwise would have defending her seat. Third, because if Sheehan actually wins, a sitting Democrat Speaker will have been thrown out of Congress, which would be a sight to behold in and of itself--even Jim Wright only resigned, he wasn't voted out.

Nancy Pelosi would eat Sheehan for lunch and it wouldn't even be close. I lived there. I know the political backdrop, and for all the hellraising the liberals do there, they also know a good deal when they see it. They're not throwing out the Speaker of the House (who will have a larger majority in 2008--count on it) for someone who doesn't even live in The City.

But hey, if it gets you all excited at night, go right ahead and get happy.

I know. The confusion was due to his calling Pelosi one.

If you mention social programs, you are commie in myrms eyes......

I would rather trim my nails with a power saw than vote for Cindy Sheehan. She needs to shut the fuck up and go away. She has shot herself in the feet more often than Barney Fife with bullets.

She did a nice job bringing the anti-war effort to life. But I think she seriously overestimates her value to anything.

If I lived in her district, Nancy Pelosi to retain her Congressional seat.

~S
She's started to believe her press clippings, a dangerous habit.

If you mention social programs, you are commie in myrms eyes......

LOL

Calling Pelosi a communist is beyond ridiculous.

LOL

Calling Pelosi a communist is beyond ridiculous.

And yet this is the crap I have to deal with in the US--where Nancy Pelosi is a communist and Newt Gingrich is not only sane, he's an elder fucking statesman. Ugh.

they also know a good deal when they see it.
Obviously they don't. What good is she if she isn't trying to impeach Bush?
They're not throwing out the Speaker of the House (who will have a larger majority in 2008--count on it) for someone who doesn't even live in The City.
The 2008 election will see Republicans regain the House and Senate riding on the popularity wave of the first Republican Presidential candidate to realize that all the American people want is someone who'll bomb the shit out of anyone that looks at us wrong.
It'll probably be Romney.

Obviously they don't. What good is she if she isn't trying to impeach Bush?There's more to the job, assuming she's the one who would ride point in the first place. If memory serves, impeachment proceedings start in the Judiciary Committee, and John Conyers, not Nancy Pelosi, chairs that committee. If you want to put some pressure on someone, he's the guy.

The 2008 election will see Republicans regain the House and Senate riding on the popularity wave of the first Republican Presidential candidate to realize that all the American people want is someone who'll bomb the shit out of anyone that looks at us wrong.
It'll probably be Romney.

Not likely. The Republicans are in bad shape all across the board, especially the Senate. It's far more likely that Pelosi and Reid will have larger margins to govern with. And the same goes for the Presidential race at the moment.

And yet this is the crap I have to deal with in the US--where Nancy Pelosi is a communist and Newt Gingrich is not only sane, he's an elder fucking statesman. Ugh.

Ugh, indeed.

Looks like Mama Cindy is going after big game. So, if Mama Cindy runs against Pelosi and you could vote in the election which one would you vote for, Mama Cindy or Nancy?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,288589,00.html

My brain hurts. Please make it stop. *runs wildly into the night, screaming.*

I'd vote for Sheehan as she is a true patriot not like that traitor Pelosi. All you guys just hate Sheehan because you secretly want to beat your wives.

Not likely. The Republicans are in bad shape all across the board, especially the Senate. It's far more likely that Pelosi and Reid will have larger margins to govern with. And the same goes for the Presidential race at the moment.

We'll see how things are after the next security crises.

I've never understood why American right wingers spend half their lives using red as an insult and the other half being proud of living in a red state.


because

free enterprise > socialism

Repeat after me:

Socialism is not an American ideal. Socialism is not an American ideal. Socialism is not...

----

As for Sheehan vs. Pelosi

It's "I hate America; I want America to lose" vs. "I want to tax the hell out of all of you"

sounds like two great choices.

muhahahahahahaha

;)

And yet this is the crap I have to deal with in the US--where Nancy Pelosi is a communist and Newt Gingrich is not only sane, he's an elder fucking statesman. Ugh.

While Pelosi, as batty as she is, isn't quite a communist (maybe halfway there :p), there's no question that Newt's a strong contender, should he choose to run. The fact that he's left some democrats with a sour taste in their mouths even having been away from mainstream politics for ten years only confirms it. ;) Although I'm beginning to think we're going to have to settle for second-best among our candidates this election cycle. :(

Cindy will not have a chance in winning Pelosi's seat. It will be a waste of her time (and she is good at that) and decent money.

I'd vote for Sheehan as she is a true patriot not like that traitor Pelosi. All you guys just hate Sheehan because you secretly want to beat your wives.

Considering I'm homosexual...no.

Cindy Sheehan was a figure to be briefly admired, then she ruined it all. She is a one woman disaster area whom the Nazz aptly pointed out, started believing her own press clippings.

I will always admire her for going after Bush, but I cannot countenance her current insanity.

~S

I'd vote for Sheehan as she is a true patriot not like that traitor Pelosi. All you guys just hate Sheehan because you secretly want to beat your wives.

Internet nerds? With wives?

Madness.

As for Sheehan vs. Pelosi

It's "I hate America; I want America to lose" vs. "I want to tax the hell out of all of you"

sounds like two great choices.

muhahahahahahaha

;)

Welcome to the American electoral system.

While Pelosi, as batty as she is, isn't quite a communist (maybe halfway there :p), there's no question that Newt's a strong contender, should he choose to run. The fact that he's left some democrats with a sour taste in their mouths even having been away from mainstream politics for ten years only confirms it. ;) Although I'm beginning to think we're going to have to settle for second-best among our candidates this election cycle. :(

Gingrich should get eaten alive in any Republican primary just based on his personal life, never mind his general ineptitude during his tenure as Speaker. But the Republicans nominated King George the Lesser twice, so they're not exactly known for consistency.

Not likely. The Republicans are in bad shape all across the board, especially the Senate. It's far more likely that Pelosi and Reid will have larger margins to govern with. And the same goes for the Presidential race at the moment.

I can see it going either way. Some strong campaigns against Dem incumbants on the (you elected them to do something and they did nothing) line could get them some seats. Especially if/when we're still in Iraq.

The Dem's have some strong candidates for the Presidency but intense dislike of certain ones could encourage a stronger counter vote.

I can see it going either way. Some strong campaigns against Dem incumbants on the (you elected them to do something and they did nothing) line could get them some seats. Especially if/when we're still in Iraq.

The Dem's have some strong candidates for the Presidency but intense dislike of certain ones could encourage a stronger counter vote.

So very true.

Internet nerds? With wives?

Madness.

(Riff to "Black Sabbath" plays)

What is this that stands before me?
Ma-a-rried man which points at me
Turn round quick and start to run
Find out I'm the chosen one
OH NO!

In all seriousness I'd vote for Pelosi. Sheehan seems to be capitalizing on her son's death and has no definite agenda.