NationStates Jolt Archive

I was thinking of something awsome, what if the USA dissolved instead of the USSR? Well, you can talk about it here, there is poll.

Eh. If we ever went Red we'd probably be some "People's Republic." All that nonsense. People's Republic of America or something. Not likely though, thankfully. ;)

Awesome isn't exactly the word I would use for it

lol ya your right.

We'll have the Alaska Autonomous Okrug or something, and the People's Republic of Vermont. Then we can also have the Gran Republica Tejana.

the peoples republic of California, oooooo that sounds so good.

Awesome? Don't be an idiot. I'm sure genocide and war crimes are awesome.

When the fuck are people going to get that the US and the West were the GOOD GUYS in the Cold War?

The scenario itself is complete crap. The Soviet Union collapsed for a reason. It was unstable. By contrast, the USA was about as stable as a million ton block of steel.

Free Cascadia!

The 'Jesusland' states would probably need to be 'cleansed'.

dont just argue i made a poll to.

I wouldnt exactly call that 'awesome'
The USA might not be the shining beacon of freedom and liberty it claims to be, but its a damn sight better than the USSR. Especially the late USSR.
Not that it would make a difference in most places, since the Russians typically werent after world domination ('though Stalin might've been), but everybody who wasnt a Russian and lived in Finland, Eastern Europe, Central Asia, northern China, the Caucuses etc. etc. wouldnt think it was too 'awesome'

The US would just be better off electing a government to take the path of democratic socialism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_socialism

Okay this is my group, i just made it like an hour ago


http://groups.myspace.com/revolutionarys

Okay this is my group, i just made it like an hour ago


http://groups.myspace.com/revolutionarys

YAY pathetic myspace groups

lol i said it was small.

The size isn't what I was referring to

lol i said it was small.

whatever, i dont care its there and it's staying.

YAY pathetic myspace groups

Quick! I need an extra-large order of copy-pasta, hold the sauce!

Quick! I need an extra-large order of copy-pasta, hold the sauce!

wtf? lets not talk about myspace alright it was just a little linke, stick to the topic.

Quick! I need an extra-large order of copy-pasta, hold the sauce!
Copy-pasta. Sounds delicious. Pomodoro sauce please.

More communist bashing?

Don't you people get tired of attacking 'teh ebil commies!:eek:'?

Seriously, get a new topic.

Oh, and same for those who bash capitalism.

only the names have been chainged to protect the guilty!

idiology isn't how anything works. its the perfume used to hide the stench of how it actually does.

the enequities of cultural values and priorites are neither augmented nor diminised by the choice of names they pay lip service to.

no hierarchy is inhierently bennificent, nor is super-powerism, by any name, sustainable.

what will be an improvement, will enable peace in the world, or stop being such an impediment to it, is to stop being an impediment to freedom in the world and that will be to stop demonizing everything that refuses to kiss the ass of little green pieces of paper (and everything that doesn't ISN'T marxism! whatever lies to the contrary you may be used to hearing, may have been weened on), and start remembering how to build, to build energy and transport infrastructure in harmony with nature, instead of destroy.

another world IS possible, possible and essential to the survival of humanity.

=^^=
.../\...

Free Cascadia!
Um, yeah no. I've changed my mind. If BC leaves, it leaves alone. The rest of you are too weird for us to be associating with.

The world would be far, far worse off.

I mean, disregarding the obvious reasons that everyone is going to bring up, just take a moment to ponder Soviet environmental policy.

Yeah.

Uh-huh.

I could finally achieve my dream of working as a high-level central planner. It combines my love of status and perquisites with my love of working out complex economic statistics for years at a time. All I need is to go pick up my Chaika, or maybe even a ZIL, and I'm set.

No waiting in lines for me, I get to go to the Beriozka stores for upper-level party members.

If the USA breaks up...

Northeast: The Democratic Alliance of New England.
- Populace affectionately known as DANES.

South: The Confederacy of Republican States
- Frequent conflict between Baptists, Jehova's, and Protestants

Midwest: The Baptist Union of Midland
- Recent Baptist control, conflict with the Southern States.

West: The People's Republic of Cascadia
- Progressive social and welfare programs.

When the fuck are people going to get that the US and the West were the GOOD GUYS in the Cold War?


When you can turn back time and stop the US administrations from funding terrorist organizations and fighting proxies wars exploiting various people across the world to fight teh ebil communists.

Not saying that the USSR was all fine and dandy, or even good, but the US hardly had clean hands during the whole thing.

If the USA breaks up...

Northeast: The Democratic Alliance of New England.
- Populace affectionately known as DANES.

South: The Confederacy of Republican States
- Frequent conflict between Baptists, Jehova's, and Protestants

Midwest: The Baptist Union of Midland
- Recent Baptist control, conflict with the Southern States.

West: The People's Republic of Cascadia
- Progressive social and welfare programs.

Utah and nearby sections of some other states:

The Holy and Prosperous Land of the Church of the Latter-Day Saints (Mormon)
-Umm... I dunno. Mormon majority...

Dunno about communism in the US, but a Fundamentalist US state is plausible,...

and let's not forget an Imperial US state,... all hail Emperor Norton!

does this mean the Soviets win the space race and we get groovy things like men on Mars?

Midwest: The Baptist Union of Midland
- Recent Baptist control, conflict with the Southern States.


Not so cure about this one, entirely. I'm thinking that Minnesota would split off, at the very least, due to some... er... well let's just call not liking the bordering states to much. That, and Minnesota would not like being controlled by Baptists. We like our Lutherans and Catholics up this way. :D

Not so cure about this one, entirely. I'm thinking that Minnesota would split off, at the very least, due to some... er... well let's just call not liking the bordering states to much. That, and Minnesota would not like being controlled by Baptists. We like our Lutherans and Catholics up this way. :D

Was thinking about dividing up a few of the northern states. Minnesota, Michigan, Illinois, and Indiana.

No.

Who exploited who to fight who and did this or that undercover, breaking international law doesn't matter.



What really matters is who is still standing as a unified nation.

<--- Yo.

Utah and nearby sections of some other states:

The Holy and Prosperous Land of the Church of the Latter-Day Saints (Mormon)
-Umm... I dunno. Mormon majority...

The Holy Latter Day-Saints Dominion of Utah. Oh yeah, and The Amish Farming Conglomerate.

I was thinking of something awsome, what if the USA dissolved instead of the USSR? Well, you can talk about it here, there is poll.

You certainly would not be posting "what if the USSR dissolved instead of the USA?"

If the US turned commie I'd shoot as many turncoats and commies as I could and do my part to overthrow the communist menace.

The poll seems...limited.

I was thinking of something awsome, what if the USA dissolved instead of the USSR? Well, you can talk about it here, there is poll.

Excuse me, but how does the dissolution of the USA relate to the USA turning communist? :confused:
Btw, one of the ideas most liked by the communist movement is internationalism, as opposed to localism.

If the US turned commie I'd shoot as many turncoats and commies as I could and do my part to overthrow the communist menace.

The poll seems...limited.

That's the spirit. :) And probably the main reason why the communists have never really made headway here. :p

Excuse me, but how does the dissolution of the USA relate to the USA turning communist? :confused:
Btw, one of the ideas most liked by the communist movement is internationalism, as opposed to localism.

Internationalism, so long as all states are communist, is favored by communists. Not internationalism where states are anti-communist. ;)

More communist bashing?

Don't you people get tired of attacking 'teh ebil commies!:eek:'?

Seriously, get a new topic.

Oh, and same for those who bash capitalism.

You forgot people who bash centrism :D .

Internationalism, so long as all states are communist, is favored by communists. Not internationalism where states are anti-communist. ;)

No, you clearly don't understand much about communism and internationalism.

Marxist theories claim that national states (omg, nationstates, lol) are a superstructureof the classical capitalist society. National differencies are exploited by the ruling class to pit the proletariat of country A against the proletariat of country B (like in WW1), because, if the proletariat of both countries recognised the fact that their real enemy is the bourgoisie of their own countries, they would ally and revolt together against their class enemy - just like it began to happen in 1917 between German and Russian soldiers. (Ultra-short course in marxist internationalism, of course)

Internationalism doesn't apply to the relationship between different states; instead, it means that the national states are to be demolished to attain the ruling of the working class - a thing that the Georgian moustachio didn't understand.
;)

You forgot people who bash centrism :D .

We could make a left-right alliance with the centre at the opposition, just to mess up politics a little more.

We could make a left-right alliance with the centre at the opposition, just to mess up politics a little more.

Awww, you made me spill my mocha. It would be funny to see that happen though.

Now if only there was a statist/anarchist alliance...