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Tonga sending more troups to Iraq

Ariddia
07-07-2007, 11:58
A SECOND Tonga Defence Service deployment to Iraq is expected within the next few weeks, the US Ambassador to Tonga Mr Larry M. Dinger said in Nuku'alofa on July 4.

Speaking in Nuku'alofa at a reception on board the U.S. Navy Destroyer USS John Paul Jones, Ambassador Dinger, noted that the port visit of the navy ship illustrated the close bilateral military relationship between the USA and Tonga. "A second Tonga Defence Service deployment to the Coalition of the Willing in Iraq in the next few weeks will be further testimony," he said.

[...] In noting that the USA advocated democratic systems for other nations, too, Ambassador Dinger said, "As Tonga strives to recover from last November's tragedy, major issues remain: reconstructing Nuku'alofa's business district; exacting justice for those who did wrong; healing wounds through reconciliation; and certainly continuing past progress toward a more democratic future.

"The United States acknowledges that Tonga's issues are for Tonga to resolve. At the same time, we remain committed to the Asia-Pacific region, including to Tonga, our long-time friend."

[...] In a reply to the Ambassador, Tonga's Deputy Prime Minister Dr Viliami Tangi, recalled that President Bush had made it known that Tonga was his favourite country. This was cofirmed in a CBS News interview in 2004 where Laura Bush, when asked: What is your husband's favorite foreign country? had replied, "That's easy. Tonga. I'll never forget how touched he was the day they came into the coalition of the willing."

The first deployment of Tongans to Iraq was made by 45 Royal Tongan Marines led by the then Colonel 'Uta'atu, in July 2004, where the Royal Tonga Marines were augmenting the 1st Marine Expeditionary Forces (MEF) in the Al Anbar Province.

(article (http://www.matangitonga.to/article/tonganews/visitors/uss_john_paul_jones_050707_1646.shtml))

When everyone else is thinking of pulling out (Italy, the Ukraine, the Netherlands, Spain, Japan, Thailand, Honduras, the Dominican Republic, Hungary, Nicaragua, Singapore, Norway, Portugal, New Zealand, the Philippines and Iceland have all withdrawn), Tonga decides that it would be a jolly good idea to send more of its soldiers to Iraq... A cynical mind might wonder why on Earth Tongans are involved in Iraq. Because they need the US as an ally, of course.

I find is distinctly amusing that the US forces "democracy" on Iraq, demands it for Cuba, but says that Tonga shouldn't be pushed towards democracy (it's a quasi-absolute monarchy).

Other non-democratic countries which are or have been part of the "Coalition of the Willing" bringing "democracy" to Iraq include Eritrea, who was recently ranked in the bottom five countries in the world for freedom of the press. You've got to love the logic, consistency and honesty of Bush's foreign policy... :rolleyes:
Arab Maghreb Union
07-07-2007, 12:17
Other "coalition of the willing" countries that are dictatorships (note that these nations did not send troops, they just voiced their support, but even so): Angola, Rwanda, Uganda.

As for Tonga, methinks the Bush Administration has offered them a very lucrative incentive to send more troops.
Arab Maghreb Union
07-07-2007, 12:29
I would also like to add that Eritrea, in its fourteen years of independence, has had only one president. It's also the continent's only de jure single-party state (at least they deserve points for honesty). IIRC, it also ranks near the bottom for religious freedom.
Daistallia 2104
07-07-2007, 13:10
Tonga sending more troups to Iraq

Hmmm... This is very curious. Why would Tonga be sending the good people of Troup (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troup,_Texas) to Iraq? :(
Call to power
07-07-2007, 14:54
hang on Tonga is a constitutional monarchy :confused:

and the Tongans are joining in because the British army has more or less achieved its objective of handing over to the Iraqi government now, dammit there in it for the glory! :p
Sel Appa
07-07-2007, 15:31
the Ukraine, the Netherlands...the Dominican...the Philippines

Can we stop with the thes? Especially Ukraine, which has no the. But really they all don't.

This makes no sense Tonga is going to be under water soon because of the Bush Admin...

I also thought this was going to be a pun with dance troupes or something.
Ariddia
07-07-2007, 16:13
Can we stop with the thes? Especially Ukraine, which has no the. But really they all don't.


Yes, they do. I've never heard anyone say "I'm going to Netherlands", or "I'm going to United States", "I'm going to Dominican Republic", "I'm going to United Kingdom"...
Ariddia
07-07-2007, 16:15
Hmmm... This is very curious. Why would Tonga be sending the good people of Troup (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troup,_Texas) to Iraq? :(

Oh, go away. :p It's "troupes" in French; occasionally one of my native languages interferes with the other. I don't often make mistakes.
UN Protectorates
07-07-2007, 16:27
Oh, go away. :p It's "troupes" in French; occasionally one of my native languages interferes with the other. I don't often make mistakes.

Maybe it's your inner Frenchman wanting to get out?

Anyway. Sucks to be those Tongalese soldiers.
Jeruselem
07-07-2007, 16:48
Great, I hope the US lapdog Australia doesn't follow suit ...
New Foxxinnia
07-07-2007, 17:10
So the coalition of the willing is Albania and Tonga considering all the citizens of the other countries involved want to leave?
Daistallia 2104
08-07-2007, 07:08
Oh, go away. :p It's "troupes" in French; occasionally one of my native languages interferes with the other. I don't often make mistakes.

Actually that's what I figured. :) (The dictionary gave the French word as the root in the etymology. ;))
Brutland and Norden
08-07-2007, 07:57
Maybe it's your inner Frenchman wanting to get out?

Anyway. Sucks to be those Tongalese soldiers.
Tongalese? Like Congolese?
Lacadaemon
08-07-2007, 08:02
The UK's a monarchy.

People deny it, but it's true.
Andaras Prime
08-07-2007, 08:05
Tonga is hardly a democracy, it's a quasi-fiefdom in which you can't be a 'commoner' to be in parliament or the public service.
Kyronea
08-07-2007, 09:35
(article (http://www.matangitonga.to/article/tonganews/visitors/uss_john_paul_jones_050707_1646.shtml))

When everyone else is thinking of pulling out (Italy, the Ukraine, the Netherlands, Spain, Japan, Thailand, Honduras, the Dominican Republic, Hungary, Nicaragua, Singapore, Norway, Portugal, New Zealand, the Philippines and Iceland have all withdrawn), Tonga decides that it would be a jolly good idea to send more of its soldiers to Iraq... A cynical mind might wonder why on Earth Tongans are involved in Iraq. Because they need the US as an ally, of course.

I find is distinctly amusing that the US forces "democracy" on Iraq, demands it for Cuba, but says that Tonga shouldn't be pushed towards democracy (it's a quasi-absolute monarchy).

Other non-democratic countries which are or have been part of the "Coalition of the Willing" bringing "democracy" to Iraq include Eritrea, who was recently ranked in the bottom five countries in the world for freedom of the press. You've got to love the logic, consistency and honesty of Bush's foreign policy... :rolleyes:

You forgot Poland.

But this is not too surprising...Tonga is one of those countries wrapped around America's pinky so they do whatever the current leader wants them to do.
Nivalc
08-07-2007, 18:42
Well, considering that the Americans are being left their almost alone, it would be a welcome relief for the troops to know that another nations supports their cause
Ariddia
09-07-2007, 09:19
Tongalese? Like Congolese?

Tongan.

The UK's a monarchy.

People deny it, but it's true.

Who's ever denied THAT? What on Earth are you talking about?

The difference between the UK and Tonga is that the British monarch is a figurehead, with actual political authority being vested in the Cabinet and entirely elected Parliament. In Tonga, the monarch has political authority, and only a small part of Parliament is elected (the rest being made up of hereditary nobles, the King's nominees, etc...).
Soleichunn
09-07-2007, 09:56
Great, I hope the US lapdog Australia doesn't follow suit ...

Weren't some more people sent to Afghanistan?
Andaras Prime
09-07-2007, 10:58
Weren't some more people sent to Afghanistan?

Yeah, like a hundred, nothing much. Our forces in Iraq (2k I believe) are largely symbolic tokenism to show we're on the side of America and the 'War on Terror', we have never really been in any firefights, barely any bombings against us, no casualties, and were in the most secure place in Iraq outside Kurdistan.
Sonnveld
10-07-2007, 08:14
Huh-whah?...

You're kidding.

One of ours killed their crown prince and princess last year.

Some stupid chick in a brand-new sports car going 90 mph clipped their transport vehicle on southbound Highway 101 through Palo Alto. It flipped over several times and killed both royals and their driver, chicky-babe in the sports car didn't get a hair out of place and was only charged with manslaughter. 4 years in jail and a five-figure fine.

Correct my math, but isn't the killing of royal family been used as grounds for war in the historical record?
The Sadisco Room
10-07-2007, 08:21
A jihad on Tonga, whatever and wherever the hell it is.
Arab Maghreb Union
10-07-2007, 08:23
A jihad on Tonga, whatever and wherever the hell it is.

Tiny Pacific nation.
The Sadisco Room
10-07-2007, 08:24
Tiny Pacific nation.

Whatever. Fuck geography, anyway.
Yootopia
10-07-2007, 10:11
The UK's a monarchy.

People deny it, but it's true.
I don't think anyone does unless they're especially retarded.