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Transformers the Movie

Pwnageeeee
05-07-2007, 20:59
I've seen Transformers twice now...personally I thought it was a great movie. I actually want to see it again. :rolleyes:

For those of you who have seen it, what did you think?
SaintB
05-07-2007, 21:07
4.98 out of 5.

There were two ways that movie could have ended up, horrible, or great. There was no middle ground. Fortunatly for all us big kids it was great! I'mma go watch it a second time methinks...
Brutland and Norden
05-07-2007, 21:19
Just done watching it a three hours ago. The soundtrack was great.
New Manvir
05-07-2007, 21:20
I tried to see it yesterday...but it was sold out...so I saw Die Hard instead
Cannot think of a name
05-07-2007, 21:23
You know, I wanted to like it. I gave it its best shot, watching the first showing in a house of fans. Even they couldn't maintain. From the other thread-
Dudes, it was all kinds of bad.

No, it didn't stay much with the original story line, which is whatever, happens. But instead of replacing it with something easy they phoned things in, and that's really the bottom line of most of the problems with the movie, phoning it in.

"We lost the All Spark, went looking for it. Then, something. Found it on eBay or whatever."

The character design was so busy, and Bay is still using the kinetic filming style that worked in Raiders of the Lost Arc, but action filming has evolved. In addition, with busy character design and kinetic (shaky) camera, the action becomes a jumble, I went from watching robots fight to something akin to Andy Capp fighting his wife. I'm sure something was happening, just not what.

The first lines out of Jazz's mouth-oh my fucking god. Someone's dad wrote this, like trying to be hip and sell me milk at the same time. Not that he gets many more to redeem himself.

And speaking of Jazz, what the fuck? Half way through the 'big fight' and he's just sitting on the street in car mode, chillin. Bumblebee has been fucked the hell up and Sam has to tell him to get out of the way? And talk about a footnote death. I felt more compasion when fucking Porkins died in Star WarsAnd what the hell is Ratchet for? Doesn't show up to help BB, can't fix his voice box, can't fix Jazz...did he lie on his resume to get the job?

Ironside is apparently all show and no gun, except to do flips. One line between Megatron and Starscream is supposed to be that their dynamic was in place. The 'one line' effort was everywhere. Megatron's gun was the Godzilla cop out (in the American Godzilla he didn't have flame breath, but he 'blew' a couple of cars that caught fire and formed a fire ball for the cop out), he starts to form a gun before someone, and you can hardly ever tell who, hits him.

The finale makes damn little sense. "Lets take this fight in the middle of the city for no fucking reason." And that's the good guys plan...

Opening the door for a kick ass car chase between the cop Decepticon and Bumblebee, then practically nothing. In fact the only cool chase deally was Starscream fucking with the fighter jets, which all things considered was actually badass.

If I wasn't at work I'd bitch more.

Yes I watched it for action and for things turning into giant robots. It failed at even that base line requirement.

And did they really only kill the 'black' robot?
If you're going to bitch at me for that you should know that I am not taking it as seriously (on the scale from "really" to "not at all," just below the later) as you are and that you'll have that party alone.
Nivalc
05-07-2007, 21:28
I think that this movie looks incredibly dumb, and I won't bother seeing it!
The Sadisco Room
05-07-2007, 21:32
You know, I wanted to like it. I gave it its best shot, watching the first showing in a house of fans. Even they couldn't maintain. From the other thread-

I agree. The humor was terrible, and the movie spent far too much time focusing on the human characters. Well guess what Michael Bay? I came to this theater to watch giant robots beating the shit out of each other. I don't want to see any humans on the screen, period (except for Megan Fox, of course).
Pwnageeeee
05-07-2007, 21:33
And did they really only kill the 'black' robot?

:D I noticed that to. Although, if there is a part 2 (which I don't see why there wouldn't be) my guess is they'll figure out a way to revive him. Kind of cliche if they do, do that. Kill someone then in the sequel mysteriously bring him back to life, but who knows. That's all speculation.
Frisians
05-07-2007, 21:53
Speculation, but very much in the line of the series. :)
Pwnageeeee
05-07-2007, 21:55
Speculation, but very much in the line of the series. :)

True. I mean the guy in question is just way to important to the series. He can't be killed...at least not permanetly. Still pretty cliche though, if that does infact happen.
Armengeddon
05-07-2007, 23:05
I Did not see it yet but'm looking forward to it!

I hope it's good!
Sumamba Buwhan
05-07-2007, 23:36
It was alright - I enjoyed myself at the show but do find myself agreeing with alot of what CTOAN was saying. I wasn't really a fan as a kid though, and have no comparisons to reflect on.

Anyway, my friends webcomic pretty much describes how I felt when I was walking back to my car from the movie.

http://jeffzugale.com/justabitoff/






I was also very suspicious of most of the cars in the parking lot.
Bolol
06-07-2007, 00:47
Well, I enjoyed it.

I would have done only one thing though: Remove all the romantic bullcrap between Sam and What's Her Face (I don't give a shit if he scores or not) and give the extra 30 minutes of airtime to the Transformers (the movie IS named "Transformers" after all), to maybe expand on the disdain between Megatron and Starscream (WTF they totally left that out!).
Cannot think of a name
06-07-2007, 00:50
Well, I enjoyed it.

I would have done only one thing though: Remove all the romantic bullcrap between Sam and What's Her Face (I don't give a shit if he scores or not) and give the extra 30 minutes of airtime to the Transformers (the movie IS named "Transformers" after all), to maybe expand on the disdain between Megatron and Starscream (WTF they totally left that out!).

You don't even have to remove the romantic plot (seriously, I've talked to enough producers, they're a pain in the ass about that. I think some of them honestly believe that a movie can't exist without a romantic subplot...makes submarine movies kinda...), they just didn't have to liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnnngggggggggeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrr on it and yet make huge, chunky, unmotivated jumps.

My god, that script smacked of a rushed first draft.
Bolol
06-07-2007, 00:56
You don't even have to remove the romantic plot (seriously, I've talked to enough producers, they're a pain in the ass about that. I think some of them honestly believe that a movie can't exist without a romantic subplot...makes submarine movies kinda...), they just didn't have to liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnnngggggggggeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrr on it and yet make huge, chunky, unmotivated jumps.

My god, that script smacked of a rushed first draft.

Well, personally, I liked some of the humor in the script. While I agree much of it was droll and cheese, Bumblebee's comedic timing with the radio was quite excellent...And I loved Frenzy.








...And next time you meet your producer friends, tell them to take their romanticism, and shove it. When you make a movie about robots in disguise, we want robots in disguise, NOT romance!
Cannot think of a name
06-07-2007, 01:01
Well, personally, I liked some of the humor in the script. While I agree much of it was droll and cheese, Bumblebee's comedic timing with the radio was quite excellent...And I loved Frenzy.
Shia managed to actually be likable despite my desire to hate his guts.

The Marx Brothers routine with the Autobots, dear god no.








...And next time you meet your producer friends, tell them to take their romanticism, and shove it. When you make a movie about robots in disguise, we want robots in disguise, NOT romance!
Let me be absolutely clear-they are not my friends.






If they were I'd be making my own movies instead of shlepping coffee for reality shows...
Bolol
06-07-2007, 01:06
Shia managed to actually be likable despite my desire to hate his guts.

The Marx Brothers routine with the Autobots, dear god no.

Are you refering to their "evasion" of Sam's parents? Because I though that was quite good.

Let me be absolutely clear-they are not my friends.






If they were I'd be making my own movies instead of shlepping coffee for reality shows...

So you're an "assistant" for the producers?

Ugh...you have my sympathy...
Cannot think of a name
06-07-2007, 01:07
Are you refering to their "evasion" of Sam's parents? Because I though that was quite good.

...


So you hate their guts too?
Only until they give me money. If they give me money I love them and think they can do no wrong.

Because I'm a whore...apparently.
Cannot think of a name
06-07-2007, 01:09
So you're an "assistant" for the producers?

Ugh...you have my sympathy...

No dude, I'm even further down that chain.

I'm a freelance production assistant, not assistant to the producers, but literally the lowest dude on the chain. Bottom of the pile, hell-about half the time PAs aren't even paid. When I'm hired most of the time all they have about me is my name and my phone number, I'm basically meat.

But thats the nature of entry level.
Neo Undelia
06-07-2007, 01:10
I thought it kicked ass.
Bolol
06-07-2007, 01:14
No dude, I'm even further down that chain.

I'm a freelance production assistant, not assistant to the producers, but literally the lowest dude on the chain. Bottom of the pile, hell-about half the time PAs aren't even paid. When I'm hired most of the time all they have about me is my name and my phone number, I'm basically meat.

But thats the nature of entry level.

Well, good luck to you!

In ten years time, maybe you'll be high up enough to make someone else's life miserable! :P
Greater Trostia
06-07-2007, 01:18
I think it was a very unrealistic movie.
Cannot think of a name
06-07-2007, 01:18
Well, good luck to you!

In ten years time, maybe you'll be high up enough to make someone else's life miserable! :P

Odds are against me. But even if I don't 'make it' it beats what I was doing before this, so it's all good.
Bolol
06-07-2007, 01:22
I think it was a very unrealistic movie.

¬_¬
Cannot think of a name
06-07-2007, 01:29
I think it was a very unrealistic movie.

That should be taken for granted.

That actually reminds me of something I wanted to complain about, which actually gives the movie something, I guess.

I'll just call this "Open Letter to Knowing Laugh Guy"

We get it. You, like everyone else in the audience, know that hacking doesn't work that way. That signal analysis was at best misapplied. We all caught it and decided to move on, but you decided on the forced overly loud laugh that lets us know that you're tech hip. Here's the thing, most people lie on the internet-you don't need to do the forced loud laugh in order to rush home to your forum of choice and tell everyone that you 'laughed out loud' when they declared that we were at "Defcon:Delta" We all saw War Games, it was out around the time of Transformers, we know. Frankly, if they can't be assed to do the research on the subject of the movie, I'm not going to jump all over them for not getting hacking/military minutia right.

Bottom line is, I wasn't watching the movie to see what would 'really happen' should alien robots who transform into vehicles landed. Think of it as a different world where that is possible and hacking is done that way and there really is "only one hacker in the world" who could break a code or whatever in like 5 minutes. And where the New Camaro is already on the road. You already accepted that we where invaded by transforming alien robots, where was your 'knowing laugh' then?

I know that the chick ship sailed the second you bought the ticket to the Transformers premiere, but you're not doing yourself any favors.

Much like I'm not by lingering on because I can't come up with a good closer.
Bolol
06-07-2007, 01:56
I know that the chick ship sailed the second you bought the ticket to the Transformers premiere...

Low blow...comrade...
Cannot think of a name
06-07-2007, 01:58
Low blow...comrade...

Well, to be fair, to know that guy was there I had to be there too.
Bolol
06-07-2007, 02:04
Well, to be fair, to know that guy was there I had to be there too.

Ha ha! Self-defamation!

And, to be equally fair, it is true that there are not many girls who'd go out of their way to see the premier of a movie about transforming robots.

...But I'm lucky enough to know at least a dozen said girls.
Greater Trostia
06-07-2007, 02:11
That should be taken for granted.


http://m-w.com/dictionary/facetiousness
Cannot think of a name
06-07-2007, 02:27
Ha ha! Self-defamation!

And, to be equally fair, it is true that there are not many girls who'd go out of their way to see the premier of a movie about transforming robots.

...But I'm lucky enough to know at least a dozen said girls.
Well, honestly there were a pack of girls behind me, but they were with gay dudes (I'm not making assumptions, they managed to work being gay in every sentence.)
http://m-w.com/dictionary/facetiousness

Yeah, well, I wanted to rant about Knowing Laugh Guy, so you were my sacrificial lamb.
Kurellia
06-07-2007, 02:56
I've seen Transformers twice now...personally I thought it was a great movie. I actually want to see it again. :rolleyes:

For those of you who have seen it, what did you think?

Me too!
Zarakon
06-07-2007, 03:00
It had exploding giant robots.


I feel this speaks for itself.
Arthodon
06-07-2007, 03:12
It was terrible, their idea of action was things spinning, camera spinning, the transformers spinning. They should have focused more on one set of the human plot line not all 3 plot lines which eventually meet. Also it was too much about the humans. The transformers look very sub par. And the wrong vehicles. They took who they liked out of the old series and thrown them in where they see fit. Over all the story line was poor, as well as the acting and the camera work. Only good thing about the movie was the hot leading actress. Oh and the intro where optimus is speaking. I laughed hard, why? because it was that poor.
Zarakon
06-07-2007, 03:16
Oh and the intro where optimus is speaking. I laughed hard, why? because it was that poor.

I had that same reaction the the narration at the beginning of Pan's Labyrinth.
Arthodon
06-07-2007, 03:17
I laughed alot through the movie, ovcourse after i stopped being sick from the dizzying spins. Last movie to make me do that was star wars 3. when darth goes NOOOOOOOOOOO.
Mikesburg
06-07-2007, 04:59
You know what, I don't care what anyone else says. That movie was frikkin' fantastic. Optimus Prime deserves the Acadamy Award for best actor for his incredibly moving speech about how humanity has choices to make, but they deserve the benefit of the doubt for being 'more than meets the eye'.

The 'splosion's and 'transforming sound' brought tears to my eye man. Fuck realism and non-cheesy plotlines. It's based off of a Saturday morning cartoon, which was in turn based off of a bloody Hasbro toy. Anyone expecting 'character development' needs to chill out, and go watch 'On Golden Pond'.

Autobots... Roll Out!
Leeladojie
06-07-2007, 06:03
I just saw it with my boyfriend about an hour ago, it was "meh", not grueling to sit through, not anything I'd like to see again. I actually liked the animated 80s Transformers movie better, and I agree with those who said the humor was corny, too much time spent on the human characters (as much as I like actors like Shia LaBeouf, Jon Voight, etc.). The battle scenes were too incoherent. My boyfriend thought it wasn't bad though.
Delator
06-07-2007, 06:36
I already posted in another thread...

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12841407&postcount=27

...I liked it. :)
The Brevious
06-07-2007, 08:19
There any robot-on-robot, robot-on-human, human-on-robot, gang human-on-robot, or gang robot-on-human sex?
If not, pass.
Delator
06-07-2007, 08:27
There any robot-on-robot, robot-on-human, human-on-robot, gang human-on-robot, or gang robot-on-human sex?
If not, pass.

Technically, yeah...a little bit. :p
Vandal-Unknown
06-07-2007, 08:36
Technically, yeah...a little bit. :p

... I saw none any of that,... thank god.
Shakal
06-07-2007, 08:41
Technically, yeah...a little bit. :p

Nice One!

I went and saw that with my boyfriend, and his dad decided to come "For the safety of his first born son and hopfully his soon to be daughter in law." He loved it. I didnt mind it, the one single thing that bothered me was, how close the parents of Sam were to my boyfriends. Now everytime I go to sleep i make sure his stereo isnt going to come alive and kill us...

And what was with the part when they all went off towards the city, that would have been perfect for some sort of chase scene and a fight. :confused:
Shakal
06-07-2007, 08:42
... I saw none any of that,... thank god.

At the end the two main characters are on Bumblebees hood and its obvious what they are going to do. :D
Vandal-Unknown
06-07-2007, 08:51
At the end the two main characters are on Bumblebees hood and its obvious what they are going to do. :D

Oh god, you have triggered my imagination of a human-robot menage-a-trois.

.... I feel so tainted by synthetic lubricants.
Zarakon
07-07-2007, 00:10
Oh god, you have triggered my imagination of a human-robot menage-a-trois.

.... I feel so tainted by synthetic lubricants.

"Quit lubricating the human!"
Cannot think of a name
07-07-2007, 02:16
At the end the two main characters are on Bumblebees hood and its obvious what they are going to do. :D

Bumblebee likes to watch.


Not that these are important, but how does he explain to, well, anyone that he's now driving a brand new (honestly, a year before anyone, but whatever...maybe the movie takes place a year from now or-and this is how I explain not caring about most of the 'inaquaracies', in an alternate universe similar to ours in many ways except that there it's possible for a race of giant robots that transform into vehicles to exist and land on 'earth,' and in that world "Defcon: Delta" exists, hackers analize signals, and the new Camaro is already out) Camaro when yesterday he was driving a busted ass 70s Camaro.

And (let me get out my shakin' cane) in my day a teenager would be happy to have a beefy ass Camaro, even if it was looking a little busted-for some that would even be a plus-better that than moms old worn out Tercel.
Wilgrove
07-07-2007, 03:48
I just got back from seeing Transformer and I got to say, for a movie that's about robots battling each other and pretty much go boom and explosions, it was awesome! You know, I watched the animated Transformer series back in the 80's, so I went in expecting the same thing and I was not disappointed.

I give it about a 9/10, mainly because I did not see any big boobs, that and the battle scenes could've been done better.
Arab Maghreb Union
07-07-2007, 05:16
Haven't seen it yet.
The Gay Street Militia
07-07-2007, 06:38
I had my issues with the movie... for one, a lot of the comedy was misplaced and strained-- ie. Bumblebee's 'lubing,' Jazz's ebonics, Optimus' "oops, my bad," the power-lines gag, I mean it was like the autobots were comic relief instead of heroic warriors :-P I tried to tell myself "they're aliens who learned to relate to us from the Internet (oh gawd), and they're huge, so yeah, they'll seem a bit clumsy, and their speech might come off as a bit cliche," but after a while even that didn't help, some of the dialogue and the slapstick was just too awful. To say nothing of Frenzy... And the Sector 7 guys were just 'tarded. And okay, we get it, Sam (cutie, BTW) really wanted to get with Mrs. Halter-top, can we see some more of the Transformers in the "Transformers" movie, please? And why did they have to mess with Optimus' face and give him lips and 'eyebrows?' I could deal with the flame paintjob, and I could deal with the 'busy' mechanical anatomy, but Optimus with lips and eyebrows... {sigh}. OP was my first ever hero as a kid, and they had him cracking one-liners. Hrmmm. And Megatron is supposed to have a huge arm-mounted cannon, that can connect extradimensionally to a black hole and level a city block with one shot. Okay, turn him into an ugly jet instead of a gun, I'm fine with that, but where's the frikken cannon? And the 'plan'-- let's take the battle into a crowded city instead of the desert... that was supposed to save lives?

Other than that I really enjoyed it. The action was cool-- albeit a little hard to follow with the jerky 'first person' camera style. It doesn't seem like the movie was written by a real fan of Transformers, and I wish it had been. I heard it described by whasisface... producer or director or somesuch... as "the story of a boy and his car." Well, Transformers was supposed to be the story of shape-changing robots whose war crashes on Earth. I know it sounds like I'm trashing it... I really enjoyed the movie, I don't think it was 'bad,' I just think it could have been so much better than it was.

Oh, me likie Josh Duhamel, though.
The Metal Horde
07-07-2007, 07:30
I just got back from seeing it about an hour and a half ago. It was pretty great. In the beginning, I heard not so good things, but then I started to hear good things. I went in pretty much expecting it to be good, and I wasn't disappointed.
Verdigroth
07-07-2007, 09:02
The only problem I had was Prime's lips. I like the face shield much better. What happened to the rest of the Constructicons? You have Bonecrusher but not the rest...and now they can't form Devastator because Bonecrusher got an Optimal smack down. Oh well.
Xenophobialand
07-07-2007, 12:36
Saw it the day it came out, having been dragged to it by a Transformers' fan friend of mine. I officially dub it charmingly retarded.

First off, Michael Bay should not be allowed to head major studio projects. Every single effing one of his projects shows two consistent trends, all of which occured here, and all of which fouled up the project. First, his maddening desire to take any interesting character and wring him or her into a stereotypical character for the Plot-o-matic. Cuba Gooding's character in Pearl Harbor couldn't be made the center character in his own movie; no, he had to be the noble black man as sideshow to the epic saga of WWII's effects on a love triangle between Kate Beckinsale, Josh Hartnett, and Ben Affleck. It should be noted that I could make a point on its own about his insistence, no matter what, of having a romantic relationship, but I'll file it as a subpoint here. Between Martin Lawrence and Will Smith, two charming and talented young actors managed to squeeze blood and God knows what else out of every Eddie Murphy 80's movie ever in Bad Boys II. And here, where there must be an evil government agency bent on conspiracy, a wife faithfully waiting around for her warrior husband, an old-warrior head honcho ready to kick ass one more time, etc, etc, etc, whether the movie really needed it or not (mostly not).

Second is his hyperkinetic and utterly baffling choice of staging fights in such a way that we cannot figure out what is happening. Now by this, I don't mean fight choreography done purely for the sake of style. Kill Bill is all about style, yet its fight choreography is wonderful for it, because Tarantino takes care to at once show you the action, shift from action to stillness to heighten tension, and provide the fight in a way that evokes a prior film from the film shot without detracting or distracting from the movie you're actually watching. Michael Bay, on the other hand, I doubt has the knowledge of film necessary to even attempt these kind of homages, and certainly lacks the film technique to implement them. I suspect he picks shots based largely on how much processing power they chew up on the computer rather than how effective they actually are for his film.

That being said, I found an inkling of what my friend found captivating as a child about the Transformers, and latched onto that. Optimus Prime has a rather crude approximation of Kantian philosophy about freedom, and the Autobots will sacrifice themselves rather than harm humans, although even they sometimes question the worthiness of humans to enjoy this privelige. I saw, however buried in goofy and unneccessary camera work, to say nothing of the physical comedy, a kind of quiet dignity and nobility in the Autobots that very likely captivated my friend as a child. I liked the movie, sort off, in spite of itself for the very same reason.

And just for the record, the final shot of the two lovebirds making out on Bumblebee drew a distinct "eww" from both of us. What the deuce was that about?
HC Eredivisie
12-07-2007, 21:41
The only problem I had was Prime's lips. I like the face shield much better.Look closely when Optimus is going to fight Megatron, he then transforms his face shield.;)

The things I didn't liked:
-The missing Autobot/Decepticon logo's in robotmode
-Optimus Prime's truck form (albeit an awesome truck, it was not the correct type)
-Devastator, which was supposed to be Brawl (though they admitted this was a mistake)
-Prime's lips when he should have a face shield, though he did have it in his final battle.

9/10:D
Targitia
12-07-2007, 21:59
It was a pretty decent movie. I loved that the director included the "noise" from the 80s cartoon when they transformed. Definetly brought a smile to my face.
The big thing that bothered me, though, was all the product placement. Lord, from GMC trucks, to Burger King, to Yahoo, I could have sworn that it was just a really really long commercial! Evidently, Pepsi Co. paid big bucks for this film, because during the big battle, a Mt. Dew vending machine is transformed into a robot (the director makes sure you see the Mt. Dew logo). Also, I could have cared less about the humans...I wanna see robots!
HC Eredivisie
12-07-2007, 22:08
I missed all the advertisements, does that mean I am immune or that they worked?:p

Seeing as I hate Pepsi, can't and wouldn't drink Mountain Dew, find Burger King too expensive, don't care for cars and dislike Yahoo.:p
JuNii
12-07-2007, 22:12
I just saw it again... yes twice!

I liked it. but then my expectation for this movie wasn't more than "Action."

The pacing was smooth, the movie didn't have long periods of 'drag time' and I like the shout-outs to the various series.

Spark = Transformers: Armada
Optimus Primes mouth and his movements under the bridge = Beast Wars
Jazz's death = I see this as a tribute to Scatman Crothers. He died, thus Jazz had to be retired in the second series. (you see him in the first couple episodes then nothing...)
The Autobot cast = of the Autobots shown in this movie... Jazz and Bumblebee were the only survivors of the first transformers movie. Ironhide, Ratchet, and Optimus Prime all died at Megatron's Hands in the Animated movie
Bumblebee = like the pounding the Yellow VW Bug took at the dealership. :p
JuNii
12-07-2007, 22:14
I could have cared less about the humans...I wanna see robots!"Disgusting!" :D
Dempublicents1
12-07-2007, 22:22
Brain: Off

Entertainment Gland: Satisfied

(pulled from some website somewhere)
Rhursbourg
12-07-2007, 22:35
not sure wil go and see it might do though but it cant be transfomers if there isnt Stan Bush on the soundtrack
The Brevious
13-07-2007, 05:39
Technically, yeah...a little bit. :p

Technically?

Arh! My spleen!

That was so terrible, I think you gave me cancer!
The Grendels
13-07-2007, 05:59
It rocked my world! I laughed, I cried, it became a part of me. Sure it wasn't Casablanca, but as a summer action film it more than fit the bill. More importantly I didn't feel betrayed as a fan of the genre, the way I was with Aliens versus Predator.

Seriously. I went in with expectations so low I nearly had take an underground entrance to the theatre. Unlike Pirates 3 I really enjoyed Transformers. The choppy clips in the credits were a bit excessive. Really, you're only allowed one choppy bit of film in the credits!

The romance could have been much worse. Bubblebee could have been seen rubbing up against a Hummer or something with porno music playing in the background. :D
Delator
13-07-2007, 06:11
-Optimus Prime's truck form (albeit an awesome truck, it was not the correct type)

The only reason they changed the truck was because the front-cab type from the cartoon wasn't large enough when transformed in relation to the other Autobots.

Or did you want Prime to be shorter than Ironhide??

Technically?

Arh! My spleen!

I aim to please...

...or something. :p
UpwardThrust
13-07-2007, 06:26
It was a solid movie ... I saw it in theaters this last weekend

Was it the most intellectual movie
No

Deepest plot
No

But it was solid and entertaining and action packed ... and I normally only go to the theater for action movies and the like ... they get the most benefit from that sort of viewing venue ... otherwise I rent/buy/borrow for my home if I want a real deep movie
Cannot think of a name
13-07-2007, 06:58
Maybe I got a different cut from you all, like they snuck in a rough cut or something where the fights weren't finished and they hadn't cut what they should have and put back things they shouldn't have cut...
Lemon Enders
13-07-2007, 07:03
It was terrible, their idea of action was things spinning, camera spinning, the transformers spinning. They should have focused more on one set of the human plot line not all 3 plot lines which eventually meet. Also it was too much about the humans. The transformers look very sub par. And the wrong vehicles. They took who they liked out of the old series and thrown them in where they see fit. Over all the story line was poor, as well as the acting and the camera work. Only good thing about the movie was the hot leading actress. Oh and the intro where optimus is speaking. I laughed hard, why? because it was that poor.


really? I thought it was great. I like the spinning camera, it made it chaotic.
Cazelia
13-07-2007, 07:29
three words from Cazelia-

TOTALLY FECKING AWSOME!!!!!!



i liked it alot, especially all the military reference, like the F-22s and the A-10s
(A-10s rule) because i love aircraft. i liked the part where megatron ripped apart the other robot on top of the building, saying "No! i want 2" while tearing it limb from limb, and i also liked the gun fight between the survivors and the scorpion robot thingy
HC Eredivisie
13-07-2007, 09:28
The only reason they changed the truck was because the front-cab type from the cartoon wasn't large enough when transformed in relation to the other Autobots.

Or did you want Prime to be shorter than Ironhide??
I know, it was a good reason to change Optimus, though I like the older version more.
Arthodon
16-07-2007, 02:00
really? I thought it was great. I like the spinning camera, it made it chaotic.

There are many ways to create a sense of chaos without making everone in the first 3 rows dizzy.
Mikesburg
16-07-2007, 02:04
If I keep eating junk food, I will transform into a pudgier version of Mikesburg.

*transforms*
Alborio
16-07-2007, 02:08
I loved it. I saw it with four Transformers Geeks and they loved it. Nuff said. Though contrary to what you people might say Bay didn't do his trademarked camera movement that much. Compared to Spider-Man 3 when the camera wouldn't stop moving
New Stalinberg
16-07-2007, 03:05
I place it boarder line good to pretty good.

Having watched the original series though... I definatley have complaints.

No Soundwave. That's the worst betrayal by far.

Optimus aside, none of the other voices were done by the original Transformers.

It started off as serious but slowly declined to a teen action movie. So yeah, too much Even Stevens and Megan Fox. (Well, not too much Megan Fox ;)) I was hoping for a more serious movie, and this didn't meet my expectations.

No development between the Transformers. None, whatsoever.

Jazz? WTF?

Granted, Bumblebee as a Camaro kicked ass.
TJHairball
16-07-2007, 05:54
I've seen Transformers twice now...personally I thought it was a great movie. I actually want to see it again. :rolleyes:

For those of you who have seen it, what did you think?
Good action flick. Script had more holes than a pound of thinly sliced swiss cheese, of course, but the action was grippingly choreographed.
JuNii
16-07-2007, 09:31
I liked it. but my only gripe is one that I've noticed in alot of CGI heavy action flicks.

in non-CGI action flicks, the human body can only move so fast. thus you can have fast paced action but still have it such that the audience can follow along.

but with movies like Spider-man 3 and Transformers, the heavy use of CGI to replace actors in the action scenes makes the fight scenes blurry and hard to follow the action.

they really need to slow the timing down on those CGI fight scenes.
HC Eredivisie
16-07-2007, 10:12
but with movies like Spider-man 3 and Transformers, the heavy use of CGI to replace actors in the action scenes makes the fight scenes blurry and hard to follow the action.
Eh? I saw in interview with that Bay guy and he said he disliked CGI and used real stuntmen and the like.:confused:
UN Protectorates
16-07-2007, 10:15
This sucks! I'm British, and I have to wait just over another week to see this movie! Argh!

I'd like to think that the fact the Fifth Harry Potter came out here a while before it'll hit your screens in America is some kind of comfort, but sadly no. I'd take Transformers over a Harry Potter Movie anyday.

The books are awesome, but I am often displeased with the films.
Kyronea
16-07-2007, 10:16
Good action flick. Script had more holes than a pound of thinly sliced swiss cheese, of course, but the action was grippingly choreographed.

Aye.

Thing is, I saw a lot of potential for some quality story in there. See, I was never a fan--nor foe--of Transformers. I just didn't have an opinion about it(mainly because I was a Trekkie practically from the day I was born.) So, going into this with no knowledge of Transformers beyond the stuff you pick up just from hearing others talk about it...certain names and the like...it felt as if there was a lot of potential that was just...not used that really should have been.

Had they cut all of the stupid crap--the routine with the parents, the lubing, and all of that jazz(And maybe edited Jazz to not speak with ebonics)--as well as the romance and instead further researched the Transformers then took what they had and improved substantially I daresay we could have had a film with action, rather than an action movie. You can make a film and include action. It's difficult, but it can be done, and frankly, it could have been done here.

Not with Shia Le Bouf though. He's the guy whom you cast if you want your movie to fall flat. He's a horrible actor and should never have landed that job on that Disney television show, let alone all of the stuff he's done since.

Oh, and there was one thing that really pissed me off...they trotted out the old "We got all of our modern computer stuff from alien technology" that I've seen in many movies and many television shows. Every single damned time it pisses me off, because it's like saying the human race is completely incompetent, that we had to rip someone else off in order to make the advances we have.

JuNii: Aye, that too. I could barely follow half the action, and what I could follow didn't seem to make as much sense.

In any case, it could have been a hell of a lot better. It should have been a hell of a lot better. Hopefully, the next film will be better. If not...

Well, there's always the cartoons for the fans. As for me...maybe I'll take a look at them. Given the potential I saw there plus the fact that many people here have been complaining about how not enough research was done makes me think that maybe there's something worth it there after all.