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As Pete decided to discuss tea, I decided to discuss which is better: Coffee or tea?

Generally, which do you prefer more? Which do you consume more of?

I myself love coffee. Strong, dark coffee.

I'm probably the only person to ever get a coffee/espresso maker for my 16th birthday. :p

Pro plus mixed with coca cola is my version of a caffeine hit so coffee is out and I prefer my drinks to be cold so thats both of them out

Generally, which do you prefer more?

Tea.

Which do you consume more of?

Coffee.

Dang, I forgot I can choose two options.

Coffee. Simple, plain coffee with milk.

I'm not into those fancy "coffees" at all (well, excepting the Irish one ;))

Pro plus mixed with coca cola is my version of a caffeine hit so coffee is out and I prefer my drinks to be cold so thats both of them out

Iced coffee..

You don't think that's the same as hot coffee?

I only drink iced coffee..

Iced coffee..

You don't think that's the same as hot coffee?

I only drink iced coffee..

At the risk of sounding like an idiot how is iced coffee made? Is it just made the normal way and then iced or just made with cold water?

Dang, I forgot I can choose two options.

I was too lazy to make the poll fit the two questions, so I just went with "Which do you prefer?"

I like them both, and drink similar amounts of both (about three mugs each a day, sometimes more tea)...

I demand a "both" option! And not the wrong "both" option you've got!
http://209.85.12.231/11055/49/emo/mob.gif

At the risk of sounding like an idiot how is iced coffee made? Is it just made the normal way and then iced or just made with cold water?
You brew coffee, then add ice. *nods*

I don't do instant coffee..

You brew coffee, then add ice. *nods*

I don't do instant coffee..

Meh too much effort.

Step one: Take coke can from fridge
Step two: Open can
Step three : Put pro plus in mouth
Step four : Drink

I like them both, and drink similar amounts of both (about three mugs each a day, sometimes more tea)...

I demand a "both" option! And not the wrong "both" option you've got!
http://209.85.12.231/11055/49/emo/mob.gif
If a kind mod sees this... Can you fix this flawed poll of mine to include a "proper" 'both' option?
Meh too much effort.

Step one: Take coke can from fridge
Step two: Open can
Step three : Put pro plus in mouth
Step four : Drink

If you mean soda, I don't drink soda. If you mean beer or energy drinks..

I like coffee.

However, there should've been a poll option for liking both, since I might actually like tea with some help from the tea thread and a little experimentation. :)

Coffee, only with sugar (real sugar, I don't wanna climb the walls, real sugar, that's what I want or none at all) no artificial sweetener

I'm a tea snob, Twinnings and specific types and all that. Got given a load of teabags for Christmas:)

If a kind mod sees this... Can you fix this flawed poll of mine to include a "proper" 'both' option?


If you mean soda, I don't drink soda. If you mean beer or energy drinks..

I mean coca cola as in the fizzy drink and pro plus as in the caffeine tablets

I'm a tea snob, Twinnings and specific types and all that. Got given a load of teabags for Christmas:)

Tea bags! Philistine.

I mean coca cola as in the fizzy drink and pro plus as in the caffeine tablets

Bleh.

I don't like soda.

Tea bags! Philistine.

There's no reason tea leaves are in any way superior.

I love coffee AND tea.

Tea for all the time. Coffee for when I need that extra kick ... tea with the afterburners on.

If I really had to choose (desert island scenario) I guess it would be tea. I could drink more of it before having serious health issues arise.

Irrelevantly, my dad takes a pinch of salt in his coffee. I think that proves that whatever one is addicted to tastes the best and seems the right and proper thing.

EDIT: CD, that is the winsomest smilie I have ever seen! I wanna party with that mob!

There's no reason tea leaves are in any way superior.


Depends whether you like the taste of paper or not.

tea FTW!

not that i mind coffee that much, mind. just vastly prefer tea (and drink between one or two dozen cups a day at work)

Depends whether you like the taste of paper or not.

I find the taste created by my brewing methods more than acceptable. And tea leaves are expensive and hard to find.

not that i mind coffee that much, mind. just vastly prefer tea (and drink between one or two dozen cups a day at work)

Woah, hardcore! *Is impressed*

...Do you ever manage to get off the loo?

Comparing coffee and tea is like comparing apples and oranges just because they both contain vitamin C.

I tend to drink more tea as it's quicker to make a decent cup of tea than it is to make a decent cup of coffee.

You brew coffee, then add ice. *nods*

I don't do instant coffee..You know you can cold filter coffee. It is truely amazing.

Depends whether you like the taste of paper or not.You've always got to strain the tea with something though.

I find unbleached tea bags to be just fine.

Woah, hardcore! *Is impressed*

...Do you ever manage to get off the loo?

i do go incredibly frequently! :p

we just have 5 people working here, all of whom like tea, so every 20 minutes or so there's a new pot and an offer for a cuppa. all that caffiene probably isn't too good for me but meh :P

*...*
You've always got to strain the tea with something though.
*...*

It probably wouldn't pass muster anywhere but Australia, but it is possible to make "billy tea."

Boil billy (pot with wire handle on top.) Take off fire, throw in tea leaves. Leave for a few seconds, then either (1) rap billy sternly with something, or (2) swing billy in ostentatious circuits around head*. Tea leaves settle to the bottom, tea is poured out into mug (with the odd leaf usually.)

*Note: practice first with cold water. Fairly dangerous even when done properly.

You know you can cold filter coffee. It is truely amazing.

O.o

*googles*

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5728227/

They're cheap, and less acidic. I might buy one.

O.o

*googles*

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5728227/

They're cheap, and less acidic. I might buy one.

what's all this stuff about 'drip coffee'? haven't you people ever heard of a cafetière (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cafetiere)? o.0

i have a little one of those in the shape of a teapot for me loose tea :)

Coffee.... Coffee.... Coffee.... Coffee.... Coffee.... Coffee.... Coffee.... Coffee.... Coffee.... Coffee.... *DING*

Ah... caffeine, 'tis the rub. It's even better with just sugar. Cream/milk dilutes it too much.

what's all this stuff about 'drip coffee'? haven't you people ever heard of a cafetière (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cafetiere)? o.0

We have one of those, in the garage.. >.>

I hear that's the best way to brew, but I have no idea how to use is..

I prefer tea, though recently have started to genuinely enjoy a good cup of coffee. Unfortunately I have no coffee maker so only can buy it at the moment.

Actually, if I have very nice Arabica coffee I don't let boiling water anywhere near it.

Put the coffee into cold water, in a pot. Put it on a medium stove and heat until (1) steam starts to issue, and (2) the floating coffee grounds go creamy (tan-coloured froth.) By that stage, the smell will be driving you crazy. It's apparently 87 Celsius, though I've never done it with a thermometer.

Then you just swill the coffee around, the grounds will settle to the bottom of the pot. It's not as strong as using really hot water, but preserves the delicate taste and aroma of really good coffee beans.

No-one has mentioned grinding the beans yet? Grinding them freshly makes a slight difference, worth it if they are really good beans.

well i like both. not either of them all the time.

there's coffee and there's coffee
and there's tea and there's tea.

coffee = ethiopian mocha harrare
tea = lopsong souchong.

coffee whole bean, keep it in freezer, grind it myself.
tea in bags or loose is fine either way.

oh there's other varieties of both too.
i mean that i like, as well as some that i don't care for as much.

neither one on an empty stomic.
one or the other after a good meal or inbetween, or with desert.

=^^=
.../\...

No-one has mentioned grinding the beans yet? Grinding them freshly makes a slight difference, worth it if they are really good beans.

I thought everyone ground their own?

You've always got to strain the tea with something though.

I find unbleached tea bags to be just fine.

I haven't tried unbleached tea bags. I make tea in a cafetiere which solves the problem and makes great tea.

Tea for the taste. Coffee to stay awake.

I thought everyone ground their own?

Oops. I don't always bother. Me Ugg, me drink black water :p

I thought everyone ground their own?

In many countries, you can't even get the beans, at least at reasonable prices. Even here, though, I know people who still drink Postum. Postum! :p

I thought everyone ground their own?

Who in their right minds drinks coffee or tea for the taste? :D

Oops. I don't always bother. Me Ugg, me drink black water :p
*offers sugar*
In many countries, you can't even get the beans, at least at reasonable prices. Even here, though, I know people who still drink Postum. Postum! :p

No! They're.. Noo! Stop them!

I bought "Juan Valdez" coffee beans, they were really good. Too bad I just ran out.. *plans on buying more*

Who in their right minds drinks coffee or tea for the taste? :D

Who in their right mind drinks decaf?

well i like both. not either of them all the time.

there's coffee and there's coffee
and there's tea and there's tea.

coffee = ethiopian mocha harrare
tea = lopsong souchong.

coffee whole bean, keep it in freezer, grind it myself.
tea in bags or loose is fine either way.

oh there's other varieties of both too.
i mean that i like, as well as some that i don't care for as much.

neither one on an empty stomic.
one or the other after a good meal or inbetween, or with desert.

=^^=
.../\...

Are you in Asia? Just a guess, but I've always wondered what the deal is with the tea with the tapioca balls at the bottom, and I don't know any asians who I could ask. Your anime-style cat thing made me think you might know. ;)

No! They're.. Noo! Stop them!

I bought "Juan Valdez" coffee beans, they were really good. Too bad I just ran out.. *plans on buying more*

It's no use trying to stop them now - it's pretty much a ritual. :p I'm not even sure there's any actual coffee product in Postum, come to think of it, but a habit's a habit.

I wish coffee were a bit cheaper sometimes - there's probably dozens of great bean varieties out there, but storebrand's the only reasonably-priced bean around here. :(

In many countries, you can't even get the beans, at least at reasonable prices. Even here, though, I know people who still drink Postum. Postum! :p

I hadn't heard of Postum - looked it up and it sounds vile. In the UK there used to be a vile concoction that came in bottles called Camp Coffee
http://www.sybertooth.com/camp/

Horrid stuff.

I hadn't heard of Postum - looked it up and it sounds vile. In the UK there used to be a vile concoction that came in bottles called Camp Coffee
http://www.sybertooth.com/camp/

Horrid stuff.

I think it's an acquired taste. It's got bran in it - kinda grainy, if I remember right. But, it has no caffeine, which appeals to some.

Camp Coffee looks kinda interesting, I guess. :p

I hate to be a party pooper but i just saw this irish documentary film on coffee growers and it is very sad because coffee is one of the worlds most expensive commodities and the farmers can't even afford to feed their families. I love coffee but now i feel ashamed not to buy fair trade coffee.

I prefer a nice warm cup of Earl Grey tea with some crack cocaine mixed in to give me that *punch* to power through the day...and to look like some f-ed druggie.

I think it's an acquired taste. It's got bran in it - kinda grainy, if I remember right. But, it has no caffeine, which appeals to some.

Camp Coffee looks kinda interesting, I guess. :p

I have always found it a good rule in life to never drink anything that has a bloke in a skirt on the label...

I have always found it a good rule in life to never drink anything that has a bloke in a skirt on the label...

Sounds like a good rule to go by, though I can't think of too many similar labels. I think there's a brand of oatmeal that has a kilted bagpiper on it - never tried it though. :p

I prefer a nice warm cup of Earl Grey tea with some crack cocaine mixed in to give me that *punch* to power through the day...and to look like some f-ed druggie.

Is crack water-soluble? :p

I hate to be a party pooper but i just saw this irish documentary film on coffee growers and it is very sad because coffee is one of the worlds most expensive commodities and the farmers can't even afford to feed their families. I love coffee but now i feel ashamed not to buy fair trade coffee.

So buy fair trade coffee. It costs twice as much, but it's still cheaper than buying it by the cup in a café.

*continues to party*

Sounds like a good rule to go by, though I can't think of too many similar labels. I think there's a brand of oatmeal that has a kilted bagpiper on it - never tried it though. :p

Hey, I grew up on that stuff!

*adjusts skirt*

So buy fair trade coffee. It costs twice as much, but it's still cheaper than buying it by the cup in a café.

*continues to party*

Good call. I'll leave the fair-trade buying to hippies though myself, for the moment. I'm sure even the dirt farmer prefers his product leaves store shelves, after all. :)

Is crack water-soluble? :p

It is actually. It has to be; dissolving cocaine powder in water with an alkaloid is essential to making the crack version of cocaine. :D

Hey, I grew up on that stuff!

*adjusts skirt*

Really? :p I love a good bowl of oats, but the imported stuff is just too expensive. The tall can of oldstyle oats with the quaker on the label was the one I was used to. :)

It is actually. It has to be; dissolving cocaine powder in water with an alkaloid is essential to making the crack version of cocaine. :D

Ah, of course. I knew Freud used to drink it dissolved in water, back in the pre-snorting days, so I should've guessed. :p

Ah, of course. I knew Freud used to drink it dissolved in water, back in the pre-snorting days, so I should've guessed. :p

Ah, crap. No wonder he turned out the way he did...now I'm going to become obsessed with phallic shapes and how everyone wants to have sex with their mothers.

We have one of those, in the garage.. >.>

I hear that's the best way to brew, but I have no idea how to use is..

dig it out man! its easy...

http://www.cubiclecoffee.com/howto/brewingcubiclecoffee.htm

http://bccy.blogspot.com/2003/11/life-with-cafetire.html

Are you in Asia? Just a guess, but I've always wondered what the deal is with the tea with the tapioca balls at the bottom, and I don't know any asians who I could ask. Your anime-style cat thing made me think you might know. ;)

well there are a lot of things about asian cultures that i love or immagine that i do. but sorry, never been there.

i just read a lot and look at pictures a lot. i used to ride arround on bussess and trains a lot whenever i had the cashflow to do so. but now i do most of my exploring on the internet. i don't know anything about tapioca balls at the bottom of teacups, but i do love an interesting kind of ice cream confection called mochi, that thay have in green tea and chocklet flavors at trader joe's.

i think it was invented in japan, i don't know how long ago though, or anything much particular about it. it's ice cream that melts in your mouth, not in your hand. it's got some kind of surface that holds it togather but you eat that too. i have no idea how it's made or anything.

=^^=
.../\...

well there are a lot of things about asian cultures that i love or immagine that i do. but sorry, never been there.

i just read a lot and look at pictures a lot. i used to ride arround on bussess and trains a lot whenever i had the cashflow to do so. but now i do most of my exploring on the internet. i don't know anything about tapioca balls at the bottom of teacups, but i do love an interesting kind of ice cream confection called mochi, that thay have in green tea and chocklet flavors at trader joe's.

i think it was invented in japan, i don't know how long ago though, or anything much particular about it. it's ice cream that melts in your mouth, not in your hand. it's got some kind of surface that holds it togather but you eat that too. i have no idea how it's made or anything.

=^^=
.../\...

Neat! I've tried green tea iced-cream at a thai restaurant - very nice. :) Incidentally, I think the tapioca balls in tea is popular among the thais too, since I often see them sold in big plastic cups of thai tea. I'll have to give it a shot sometime. :p

i think you wouldn't know anything about what the farmer prefers actually and i'm not a hippy either.

But i take the point that i'm being way to heavy man! maybe i haven't had enough coffee today.;)

Ah, crap. No wonder he turned out the way he did...now I'm going to become obsessed with phallic shapes and how everyone wants to have sex with their mothers.

There's some risk involved, I'm sure. :p Ah, I love when history is actually fun. :)

i think you wouldn't know anything about what the farmer prefers actually and i'm not a hippy either.

But i take the point that i'm being way to heavy man! maybe i haven't had enough coffee today.;)

I'm only assuming he'd be happier having his product bought, rather than going unsold - which I think is a safe assumption, even if he's working for nickels. ;)

okay the last word goes to the crabbe (very apt name)

Are you in Asia? Just a guess, but I've always wondered what the deal is with the tea with the tapioca balls at the bottom, and I don't know any asians who I could ask. Your anime-style cat thing made me think you might know. ;)

Bubble Tea - there is a history of it here
http://www.bubbleteasupply.com/index.php?page=what.html

new to me

Bubble Tea - there is a history of it here
http://www.bubbleteasupply.com/index.php?page=what.html

new to me

Yeah, that looks like the stuff. :p It looks kinda tasty, though a bit suspicious at the same time. They sell it at a few odd delis and places around here, though I can never remember exactly where. Comes with a huge straw for drinking the tapioca. :p

okay the last word goes to the crabbe (very apt name)

Not sure I understand exactly, but that sounds good to me! :fluffle:

teateateateateateateateateateateateateateateateateateateateateateateatetaetea....................... ................................and sometimes coffee:D

Really? :p I love a good bowl of oats, but the imported stuff is just too expensive. The tall can of oldstyle oats with the quaker on the label was the one I was used to. :)

It doesn't seem to have made you into a Quaker though. :)

Yeah, as I kid I mainly had porridge from Quaker oats. I used to really love porridge, I guess I can't spare the time to cook it and wait for it to cool and wash the pot and the bowl and all that ... porridge is good though. Definitely still eat it if someone bothers to cook it.

Was it "Piper" brand oats? Google has nothing ... unless it was Scotts:

Scotts Porage Oats Label (http://www.britishdelights.com/images/CE2.jpg)

what is it like down under nobel? is it sunny at the mo?

It probably wouldn't pass muster anywhere but Australia, but it is possible to make "billy tea."

Boil billy (pot with wire handle on top.) Take off fire, throw in tea leaves. Leave for a few seconds, then either (1) rap billy sternly with something, or (2) swing billy in ostentatious circuits around head*. Tea leaves settle to the bottom, tea is poured out into mug (with the odd leaf usually.)

*Note: practice first with cold water. Fairly dangerous even when done properly.Hmm... sounds fun... or painful.

But then that suffers from the problem of making the tea in pot not made out of ceramic or glass. Paper and metal tend to alter the taste of hot drinks I find. Tinned fruit is the best example. That zingy taste originally came from metal ions leaking into the syrup from the tin (though now they artifcially add the ions in during production).

So even the press in a cafetiere will change the taste of the drink slightly.

I haven't tried unbleached tea bags. I make tea in a cafetiere which solves the problem and makes great tea.You should try it. White paper is normally made white by use of bleach. Who wants to be drinking bleach, because will be drinking tiny amounts no matter how hard the company tries to wash the bleach out of the paper.

Actually, if I have very nice Arabica coffee I don't let boiling water anywhere near it.

Put the coffee into cold water, in a pot. Put it on a medium stove and heat until (1) steam starts to issue, and (2) the floating coffee grounds go creamy (tan-coloured froth.) By that stage, the smell will be driving you crazy. It's apparently 87 Celsius, though I've never done it with a thermometer.

Then you just swill the coffee around, the grounds will settle to the bottom of the pot. It's not as strong as using really hot water, but preserves the delicate taste and aroma of really good coffee beans.

No-one has mentioned grinding the beans yet? Grinding them freshly makes a slight difference, worth it if they are really good beans.That sounds like one of these
http://www.buonoespresso.co.uk/images%5Cshop%20tools%5Cmoka.jpg

what is it like down under nobel? is it sunny at the mo?

It is kind of near midnight and kind of near the middle of winter. So no. :p

and there i was thinking it was always sunny there :cool:

You should try it. White paper is normally made white by use of bleach. Who wants to be drinking bleach, because will be drinking tiny amounts no matter how hard the company tries to wash the bleach out of the paper.

Most municipal water supplies are purified with Chlorine anyway, so you've still got the bleach taste regardless of what color your teabag is.

depends on the tea and depends on the coffee.
I've only once let instant coffee past my lips these past 5 years - and that was because I was desperate for a caffeine fix and there wasn't anything else. Otherwise - forget it. I've no idea how anyone can drink instant - it's taste bears no relationship whatsoever to espresso (my drug of choice - double espresso - occassionally Romano or Machiato).
However, good quality tea can be just as nice - sometimes better than coffee. By good quality, I mean brewed in a teapot for starters (not bag, thank you very much) and, more importantly, extremely top notch stuff. eg. Yunnan tea. Brilliant.

That sounds like one of these
http://www.buonoespresso.co.uk/images%5Cshop%20tools%5Cmoka.jpg
problem with those is that it boils the water into steam, and the excess heat can make the resulting coffee bitter. Best to have it on low heat, so the water doesn't scald the grounds.

Most municipal water supplies are purified with Chlorine anyway, so you've still got the bleach taste regardless of what color your teabag is.Not my municipality! Muwahaha! No wait... I think that might be that it's not fluorinated.

Anyway, you can filter you water to get rid of chlorine. I'd imagine filtering tea to get rid of chlorine would probably remove more than you wanted it to...

Coffee in the morning, one cup, good and strong, to get me going.

Tea the rest of the day.

have to come to the UK for real tea!

Its disgusting and an insult everywhere else :P

Drink more tea, only drink coffee when lan gaming.

Tea is weak and effeminate, like a female midget suffering from osteoporosis and kidney failure. I've tasted water with more flavor than your average tea.

So, obviously, I drink coffee. No sugar, no milk, no cream: just lots of beans and water hot enough to cause disfiguring facial scars should I feel the need to throw the pot in someone's face.

It's not an either-or choice and what I drink depends on context and mood. Sometimes coffee is better and sometimes tea is.

Tea. Either Yorkshire Tea (it is a brand), or Earl Grey. The latter with lemon and a sugar.

I quite agree regarding tea outside of the UK; only India, of the places I have visited beyond the UK, has ever made a decent cup of tea.

I do appreciate coffee, however. I simply prefer the taste of tea.

Coffee...Maxwell House Masterblend is the way to go...with Coffeemate.

Tea. while I love the smell of coffee... I can't stand it's taste.

and yes, I can taste a drop of coffee in a cup of hot chocolate.

I definitely prefer a cup of good coffee, though I will drink tea if it's black (darjeeling!) or green, strong, and unadulterated by cream, sugar, milk, honey, and other such attempts to make tea taste like a latte.

I like both. It really depends on the situation, if I need caffiene, then I go for coffee (medium light roast black, anything darker needs sugar). I really like green tea though because it is yummy. Oh, and chai tea is also good.

Tea. while I love the smell of coffee... I can't stand it's taste.

and yes, I can taste a drop of coffee in a cup of hot chocolate.

In the winter time I sometimes replace my coffeemate with a packet of Swiss Miss Hot Chocolate....Tastes awesome with coffee...

Coffee tastes God awful.

Tea is delicious and comes in assorted flavors and colors.

The answer of course is tea.

Tea is for when you are feeling ill or want something hot before you go to bed. Coffee is where it's at.

Coffee. I've never liked tea. So coffee it is.

Especially when it's a hot chocolate/coffee mix... :D

Both coffee and tea are gross. I'll stick with a soft drink or lemonade if i want something other than water.

Diet Schneider's Iced Tea.

I love both - each has its place.

Coffee in the morning or with desert - tea when i just sit back on a rainy afternoon reading a book. Each has its time and place.

I think I'm going to have to cold-brew my coffee... but rather than shell out for a 'system' im just going to grind some beans and put them in a glass jar for 12 hours then pour it through a strainer. I like the idea of having a good coffee concentrate... make having a cup of coffee in the morning a little easier. Not so happy about the lower caffeine though.


When I brew a pot of coffee i like to give my beans a rough grind and add a generous pinch of salt (a pinch of salt brings out the flavor or whatever its added to) and maybe a little cocoa powder as well (especially with lesser beans). Put a touch of sugar in the bottom of the pot as well to take the edge off the bitterness. I try to make it strong and add a good dollop of cream to it.

A cold-brew concentrate though... it would let me add hot milk to get both the milkiness without loosing proper coffee strength. (No, I am not going to get up ass-crack of dawn early to make espresso and add milk - at least the drip brew i can set on a timer the night before).

tea, hands down, coffee is hard on the system, although cafe latè and cappacinos are nice

had a lovely black earl grey with sugar after dinner at a restaurant this evening. tis a really great way to finish a meal :)

Both.

Coffee is absolute rubbish. Tea is where its at.

Both coffee and tea are gross. I'll stick with a soft drink or lemonade if i want something other than water.

Ugh! Refined cane sugar, carbon dioxide and flavouring. Tooth decay and diabetes! Plus, all your descendants will have extra toes.

I love both - each has its place.

Coffee in the morning or with desert - tea when i just sit back on a rainy afternoon reading a book. Each has its time and place.

I think I'm going to have to cold-brew my coffee... but rather than shell out for a 'system' im just going to grind some beans and put them in a glass jar for 12 hours then pour it through a strainer. I like the idea of having a good coffee concentrate... make having a cup of coffee in the morning a little easier. Not so happy about the lower caffeine though.


When I brew a pot of coffee i like to give my beans a rough grind and add a generous pinch of salt (a pinch of salt brings out the flavor or whatever its added to) and maybe a little cocoa powder as well (especially with lesser beans). Put a touch of sugar in the bottom of the pot as well to take the edge off the bitterness. I try to make it strong and add a good dollop of cream to it.

A cold-brew concentrate though... it would let me add hot milk to get both the milkiness without loosing proper coffee strength. (No, I am not going to get up ass-crack of dawn early to make espresso and add milk - at least the drip brew i can set on a timer the night before).I seem to remember that the reason people think caffiene helps them to wake up is dependency on the drug rather than its properties as a stimulant. Kinda like how smokers need to take nicotine to help them relax when nicotine as a drug does nothing to help you relax. All the drugs are doing in these circumstances are returning the user to a 'normal' state.

So if you reduce your caffiene intake then you might find that you feel more energetic and alert without the need for coffee or tea.

I mean coca cola as in the fizzy drink and pro plus as in the caffeine tablets


I thought Pro Plus was Willy Enlargement Pills...

I dont like either