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What about THESE vegetarian menu items?

Multiland
05-07-2007, 01:29
What d'ya reckon:

MENU

Filled potato skins (Tofutti creamy smooth/creamy smooth and ‘bacon-style’ pieces)
‘Chicken-style’ skewers, 3 pieces
Fishless ‘fish cakes’, 2 pieces
Chilli non carne (vegetarian chilli con carne – still spicy!)
Vegetarian spaghetti bolognese
Vegetable burger – a blend of sweetcorn, peas, carrot, and onion, in a crispy batter
Spicy bean burger – kidney beans, chickpeas, chopped red pepper and chopped green pepper with garlic and spices
Chips and curry
Chips and gravy
Chips and beans
Beans on toast
Spaghetti on toast
Vegetable stew – Vegemince, carrots, onion, leek, and peas topped with golden potato slices
Mashed potato, baked beans, and peas or sliced carrot
Vegetable hotpot
Vegetable curry
Potato and chickpea curry
Curry and rice (chickpea curry or vegetable curry)
Mushroom and ale pie
Chef’s special pasty: Vegemince and potato wrapped in flaky pastry, topped with parsley sauce and served with a side of potato wedges and peas
‘Tuna’-style’ Special – Chunks of ‘tuna-style’ pieces with mayonnaise, iceberg lettuce, and chopped onion
Fried onion rings – fried onion in a crispy batter seasoned with curry powder, 4 pieces
Stuffed peppers (2, 1 red and 1 green) filled with fresh fennel and tomatoes
Grilled tomatoes with Cheezly and rice, seasoned with garlic
Crunchy sweet chilli pitta – pitta pocket filled with Thai sweet chilli flavour crisps, iceberg lettuce, red and white cabbage, and endives plus vinaigrette
Crunchy prawn cocktail pitta – pitta pocket filled with prawn cocktail flavour crisps (we’ve checked they’re vegan, as with all the food we sell), iceberg lettuce, red and white cabbage, and endives plus vinaigrette

PASTA DISHES
Cold pasta dishes:
Tomato and olive pasta
Pasta salad with couscous
Hot pasta dishes:
Garden pasta – Penne pasta with leek, garlic, and chopped herbs in a tomato sauce
Vegetarian lasagne – delicious layers of broccoli, spinach, garlic, and mushrooms (a version without mushrooms is available) and pasta sheets with a rich, creamy sauce


SIDES
Spicy potato wedges
Real English chips – soft and chunky
Cup of beans
Cup of peas
Grilled sweetcorn with fried beans and mash
Gravy portion
Multiland
05-07-2007, 01:32
you should not try to force your vegetarianism on others.

I'm not, I'm just asking people for their opinions. Yours has been noted :)
Swilatia
05-07-2007, 01:32
you should not try to force your vegetarianism on others.
Azaeria
05-07-2007, 01:32
Your menu lacks meat good sir.

And if you weren't aware, your vegetarianism causes even more herbicides and pesticides to be poured into the world's lakes and water streams every year, which has an even more dire environmental effect then your anti-meat ways are helping to prevent
Dundee-Fienn
05-07-2007, 01:33
What is the menu for?
Lacadaemon
05-07-2007, 01:34
Not all beans for beans on toast are vegetarian.
Swilatia
05-07-2007, 01:34
Your menu lacks meat good sir.

Lol, you win the thread, and excellent first post.
Sirocco
05-07-2007, 01:35
Too much batter. What's in fishless fish cakes?
Kroisistan
05-07-2007, 01:35
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ee/Wheres_the_beef_commercial.jpg
Kinda Sensible people
05-07-2007, 01:39
Your menu lacks meat good sir.

And if you weren't aware, your vegetarianism causes even more herbicides and pesticides to be poured into the world's lakes and water streams every year, which has an even more dire environmental effect then your anti-meat ways are helping to prevent

Not true. To produce one amount of meat, ten times as many plants have to be grown and tended to to feed it. Trophic level inefficiency, see.
Dakini
05-07-2007, 01:46
you should not try to force your vegetarianism on others.
How exactly is he forcing his vegetarianism on others?

If this is a restaurant menu, it's not like he'd be forcing people to go in instead of eating down the street...
Alexandrian Ptolemais
05-07-2007, 01:47
Not true. To produce one amount of meat, ten times as many plants have to be grown and tended to to feed it. Trophic level inefficiency, see.

It depends on what you feed the animals with. If you do it the American way, and feed them with grain and corn, then yes, it is inefficient and has negative environmental effects. If you do it the New Zealand/Australian way, and feed them with grass, then no, it is not inefficient and does not have that many negative environmental effects.
Kinda Sensible people
05-07-2007, 01:50
It depends on what you feed the animals with. If you do it the American way, and feed them with grain and corn, then yes, it is inefficient and has negative environmental effects. If you do it the New Zealand/Australian way, and feed them with grass, then no, it is not inefficient and does not have that many negative environmental effects.

Well, the grass still has to be grown, and that uses up land that could be used for crops, and the grass is still fertilized and normally treated, so it isn't so much healthier.
Ifreann
05-07-2007, 01:51
Can't go wrong with curry chips, vegetarian or not. Good stuff.
Alexandrian Ptolemais
05-07-2007, 02:01
Well, the grass still has to be grown, and that uses up land that could be used for crops, and the grass is still fertilized and normally treated, so it isn't so much healthier.

IIRC, we don't use much fertiliser; and anyway, you can just as easily fertilise the soil with cow and sheep dung as with your standard fertiliser. In terms of using up land, every agricultural activity uses up land, however, you will not be using up as much land with the animals eating grass option as you would with the animals eating grain and corn option.
Aryavartha
05-07-2007, 03:12
http://www.chennaihub.com/images/cuisine-of-chennai/idli-dosa.jpg

That's more like what I would eat as a vegetarian.
Deus Malum
05-07-2007, 03:21
http://www.chennaihub.com/images/cuisine-of-chennai/idli-dosa.jpg

That's more like what I would eat as a vegetarian.

That's more like what I'd eat despite not being a vegetarian. MMMmmm South Indian food...

Doesn't beat Punjabi, but it's a close second.
Thumbless Pete Crabbe
05-07-2007, 03:27
http://www.chennaihub.com/images/cuisine-of-chennai/idli-dosa.jpg

That's more like what I would eat as a vegetarian.

Aren't those eggs on the right-hand side? Unless my eyes are playing tricks, it looks like it.

Though I don't really understand why a vegetarian can't eat eggs or dairy - nothing is being killed, and chickens don't exactly mourn when you take a few eggs from the nest. :p Looks tasty though.
Aryavartha
05-07-2007, 03:28
That's more like what I'd eat despite not being a vegetarian. MMMmmm South Indian food...

Doesn't beat Punjabi, but it's a close second.

Punjabi cuisine's got nothing on South Indian if it comes to veggie stuff. :p

I do like the koftas and kormas, but homemade coconut chutney, idli and dosa are the best. :cool:
New Mitanni
05-07-2007, 03:30
Lots of them look good.

Now, just serve them with a big, thick, juicy, rare slab of USDA Prime beef, or a nice milk-white veal chop, or tender roast chicken freshly dressed that very morning, and I'll be one happy diner :D
Deus Malum
05-07-2007, 03:31
Punjabi cuisine's got nothing on South Indian if it comes to veggie stuff. :p

I do like the koftas and kormas, but homemade coconut chutney, idli and dosa are the best. :cool:

Bah, gimme Paneer Makhani and a good Veg. Biryani any day.
Ghost Tigers Rise
05-07-2007, 03:31
The ultimate in Indian vegetarian food:

http://www.comicsreporter.com/images/uploads/dilberito2_thumb.jpg
Aryavartha
05-07-2007, 03:31
Aren't those eggs on the right-hand side? Unless my eyes are playing tricks, it looks like it.

yeah, those are omlettes.


Though I don't really understand why a vegetarian can't eat eggs or dairy - nothing is being killed, and chickens don't exactly mourn when you take a few eggs from the nest. :p Looks tasty though.

well..it's still a meat product. I've know vegetarians who eat eggs, because nowadays you get sterile eggs (meaning there is no embryo formed) - or so their reasoning goes.

Those who don't eat because it is an animal product - don't eat eggs.

Vegetarians come in different shades...
Deus Malum
05-07-2007, 03:32
Aye, my family is the eggs and milk sort of vegetarians.

I used to be one, but I've developed a fondness for sushi.
Deus Malum
05-07-2007, 03:33
Lots of them look good.

Now, just serve them with a big, thick, juicy, rare slab of USDA Prime beef, or a nice milk-white tortured baby cow chop, or tender roast chicken freshly dressed that very morning, and I'll be one happy diner :D

Fixed. :D
Ghost Tigers Rise
05-07-2007, 03:35
Fixed. :D

PETA propaganda.
New Mitanni
05-07-2007, 03:40
Fixed. :D

Don't care. :p

But while we're at it, make that "tortured baby cow chop covered with fungus, with a side of foie gras."
New Granada
05-07-2007, 03:42
Uninspiring.

There is good vegetarian food, but this doesn't seem to be it.

Rule 1:

No GODDAMNED ARTIFICE.
Deus Malum
05-07-2007, 03:49
Uninspiring.

There is good vegetarian food, but this doesn't seem to be it.

Rule 1:

No GODDAMNED ARTIFICE.

Rule 2:

If you're going to serve Indian food, start an Indian restaurant.
New Genoa
05-07-2007, 03:52
Needs more human.
Dakini
05-07-2007, 04:20
Though I don't really understand why a vegetarian can't eat eggs or dairy - nothing is being killed, and chickens don't exactly mourn when you take a few eggs from the nest. :p Looks tasty though.
Vegetarians can and do eat eggs and milk products. Vegans don't.
Lunatic Goofballs
05-07-2007, 08:16
Vegetarian I can understand. I can smile, nod and move on to a nice cheeseburger.

What makes my brain spin out is fake meat. Meatless hamburgers, tofu hot dogs, fishless fish, chicken-like nuggets, veggie sausage, pepperoni substitute, cheese-like slices, even meatless meatballs(a.k.a. balls)!

What the hell?!? :confused:
The Nazz
05-07-2007, 08:19
Uninspiring.

There is good vegetarian food, but this doesn't seem to be it.

Rule 1:

No GODDAMNED ARTIFICE.

I agree. Why is it that so many vegetarian menus add fake meat? If I want vegetarian, I'm trying to avoid the meat for whatever reason. I don't want meat substitute.
Nipeng
05-07-2007, 12:14
What the hell?!? :confused:
The worst is The Loaf. It sounds so stale.
Aryavartha
05-07-2007, 12:20
I agree. Why is it that so many vegetarian menus add fake meat? If I want vegetarian, I'm trying to avoid the meat for whatever reason. I don't want meat substitute.

I don't get that fake meat crap either. I think it is an American thing....because most American vegetarians have to go through the transition from having regular meat stuff to not eating meat.

Those who are born and brought up in vegetarian culture (like Indians for ex), they have a wide variety of vegetarian dishes they are accustomed to and don't feel the need for the tofu/fake meat dishes.
Temurdia
05-07-2007, 12:36
*fires up the grill*

We need meat. Without the protein we'll become so weak that we cannot even raise our beers :)
Swilatia
05-07-2007, 12:43
Fixed. :D

WTF? Do you work for PETA or some other animal rights joke like that?
The_pantless_hero
05-07-2007, 12:55
Vegetarian I can understand. I can smile, nod and move on to a nice cheeseburger.

What makes my brain spin out is fake meat. Meatless hamburgers, tofu hot dogs, fishless fish, chicken-like nuggets, veggie sausage, pepperoni substitute, cheese-like slices, even meatless meatballs(a.k.a. balls)!

What the hell?!? :confused:

Exactly, wtf. If you like vegetables, eat some damn vegetables, not pretend it's meat because you really want a hamburger but afraid to get one.

Also, fishless fish? Wtf? Fish fillets arn't very appetizing looking, why duplicate it? And I'm not sure there is chicken in chicken nuggets to begin with so chicken-like nuggets would probably be better.
Bithemesko
05-07-2007, 13:10
I agree. Why is it that so many vegetarian menus add fake meat? If I want vegetarian, I'm trying to avoid the meat for whatever reason. I don't want meat substitute.

That's bullshit.I'm vegetarian for years now. But before I became vegetarian I really loved meat. I think I would still like the taste of a hamburger. But I stopped eating all that. The factory farming and all that stuff were the reason I stopped. Still I had and still have a hard time being vegetarian. The fake meat is delicious and it really helps me. I'm not a vegetarian because I want to prove anything to anyone.

The fake meat is delicious. That's why I eat it. It's made of soy and not of meat, so what's your friggin' problem, people?
Risottia
05-07-2007, 13:43
What d'ya reckon:
‘bacon-style’ pieces)
‘Chicken-style’ skewers, 3 pieces
Fishless ‘fish cakes’, 2 pieces
Chilli non carne (vegetarian chilli con carne – still spicy!)
Vegetarian spaghetti bolognese
Vegetable burger – a blend of sweetcorn, peas, carrot, and onion, in a crispy batter
Spicy bean burger – kidney beans, chickpeas, chopped red pepper and chopped green pepper with garlic and spices

I reckon that, by such menu, vegetarians say "meat tastes better anyway". Bacon-style, "carne" (meat), bolognese ("spaghetti alla bolognese" means with minced meat ragout), hamburger...


Spaghetti on toast

BLASPHEMY!!!


Vegetable stew – Vegemince, carrots, onion, leek, and peas topped with golden potato slices

A very standard vegetable soup, I'd say.


‘Tuna’-style’ Special – Chunks of ‘tuna-style’ pieces with mayonnaise, iceberg lettuce, and chopped onion
"tuna-style" pieces, but what of?


Stuffed peppers (2, 1 red and 1 green) filled with fresh fennel and tomatoes

Better fill the peppers with boiled rice or bread and cheese. Unless you're a vegan.


PASTA DISHES
Cold pasta dishes:
Tomato and olive pasta


Actually, pasta with hot tomato sauce and olives is even better - and still totally vegetarian.


Pasta salad with couscous

Couscous (minced wheat) AND pasta... without anything else? Meh, sucks.


Hot pasta dishes:

Many pasta dishes are already vegetarian. Like "Penne alla Norma" (tomato, garlic, aubergines and goat ricotta cheese), "Penne all'arrabbiata" (tomato, garlic, chili peppers).


Also, the pizza Margherita is vegetarian (tomato, mozzarella and basil).
British Londinium
05-07-2007, 13:47
The problem with vegetarian and vegan foods - not enough Soylent Green.
Rotovia-
05-07-2007, 13:48
I love this little vegan resturant in Brisbane (Gavindas), yet I can't help but thinking "this would be great with some lamb..."
The_pantless_hero
05-07-2007, 14:18
I love this little vegan resturant in Brisbane (Gavindas), yet I can't help but thinking "this would be great with some lamb..."
A vegan restaurant? You should say that out loud.
Or maybe "I could kill for some milk."
Deus Malum
05-07-2007, 14:20
I don't get that fake meat crap either. I think it is an American thing....because most American vegetarians have to go through the transition from having regular meat stuff to not eating meat.

Those who are born and brought up in vegetarian culture (like Indians for ex), they have a wide variety of vegetarian dishes they are accustomed to and don't feel the need for the tofu/fake meat dishes.

That's also largely because our vegetable dishes don't SUCK.

Seriously, how did you people get by on steamed vegetables with no oil and no spices? :confused:
Deus Malum
05-07-2007, 14:22
WTF? Do you work for PETA or some other animal rights joke like that?

It was actually a reference to an episode of South Park where the kids kidnap a bunch of baby cows because they're going to be sold for veal.
The_pantless_hero
05-07-2007, 14:27
Seriously, how did you people get by on steamed vegetables with no oil and no spices? :confused:
Steamed vegetables taste like ass. Salt can't even save steamed vegetables.
Andaluciae
05-07-2007, 14:30
Can't go wrong with curry chips, vegetarian or not. Good stuff.

Huzzah. That's a first rate treat either way!
Smunkeeville
05-07-2007, 14:32
What d'ya reckon:

MENU

Filled potato skins (Tofutti creamy smooth/creamy smooth and ‘bacon-style’ pieces)
‘Chicken-style’ skewers, 3 pieces
Fishless ‘fish cakes’, 2 pieces
Chilli non carne (vegetarian chilli con carne – still spicy!)
Vegetarian spaghetti bolognese
Vegetable burger – a blend of sweetcorn, peas, carrot, and onion, in a crispy batter
Spicy bean burger – kidney beans, chickpeas, chopped red pepper and chopped green pepper with garlic and spices
Chips and curry
Chips and gravy
Chips and beans
Beans on toast
Spaghetti on toast
Vegetable stew – Vegemince, carrots, onion, leek, and peas topped with golden potato slices
Mashed potato, baked beans, and peas or sliced carrot
Vegetable hotpot
Vegetable curry
Potato and chickpea curry
Curry and rice (chickpea curry or vegetable curry)
Mushroom and ale pie
Chef’s special pasty: Vegemince and potato wrapped in flaky pastry, topped with parsley sauce and served with a side of potato wedges and peas
‘Tuna’-style’ Special – Chunks of ‘tuna-style’ pieces with mayonnaise, iceberg lettuce, and chopped onion
Fried onion rings – fried onion in a crispy batter seasoned with curry powder, 4 pieces
Stuffed peppers (2, 1 red and 1 green) filled with fresh fennel and tomatoes
Grilled tomatoes with Cheezly and rice, seasoned with garlic
Crunchy sweet chilli pitta – pitta pocket filled with Thai sweet chilli flavour crisps, iceberg lettuce, red and white cabbage, and endives plus vinaigrette
Crunchy prawn cocktail pitta – pitta pocket filled with prawn cocktail flavour crisps (we’ve checked they’re vegan, as with all the food we sell), iceberg lettuce, red and white cabbage, and endives plus vinaigrette

PASTA DISHES
Cold pasta dishes:
Tomato and olive pasta
Pasta salad with couscous
Hot pasta dishes:
Garden pasta – Penne pasta with leek, garlic, and chopped herbs in a tomato sauce
Vegetarian lasagne – delicious layers of broccoli, spinach, garlic, and mushrooms (a version without mushrooms is available) and pasta sheets with a rich, creamy sauce


SIDES
Spicy potato wedges
Real English chips – soft and chunky
Cup of beans
Cup of peas
Grilled sweetcorn with fried beans and mash
Gravy portion
if you want to eat meat, then eat meat, stop with all this "fish type subsitute" crap.

also, there is a lot of flour breading, you should make sure your flour is vegetarian, sometimes wheat flour people run it through bone meal to make it whiter.......of course you may not be the type of veggie who cares about that sort of thing.
Soleichunn
05-07-2007, 14:34
Needs more human.

To the in vitro meat labs!

*fires up the grill*

We need meat. Without the protein we'll become so weak that we cannot even raise our beers :)

Bah, eat a lentil burger, that'll give you enough protein for your beer delivery muscles.

The problem with vegetarian and vegan foods - not enough Soylent Green.

'Ahem'.

SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!

I love this little vegan resturant in Brisbane (Gavindas), yet I can't help but thinking "this would be great with some lamb..."

I don't like lamb :( .
The_pantless_hero
05-07-2007, 14:34
if you want to eat meat, then eat meat, stop with all this "fish type subsitute" crap.
Yeah, there is plenty of meat substitute in "meat" dishes as it is.
Multiland
07-07-2007, 14:21
Aren't those eggs on the right-hand side? Unless my eyes are playing tricks, it looks like it.

Though I don't really understand why a vegetarian can't eat eggs or dairy - nothing is being killed, and chickens don't exactly mourn when you take a few eggs from the nest. :p Looks tasty though.

Vegetarians usually can, vegans can't. (Don't anyone say I'm forcing my beliefs now, just responding to a statement...) Cows are artificially inseminated to make them preganant, then shortly after their calf is born the Mother and calf are seperated so the milk can be given to humans instead. When the cow starts running out of milk, she is artificially inseminated again - this happens so many times that her udders swell painfully. If she has a male calf, he is slaughtered (or given to someone else who will do the slaughtering) because dairy farms have no use for male cows.

As with male cows in the dairy industry, cockerels (roosters) are no use to the egg industry so are killed. Hens are kept in cramped conditions. Because of all the stress, they end up fighting each other so their beaks are painfully seared. They also have their wings clipped.

Even on "free range" farms, the only requirements regarding space is that they have access to the outdoors and that they have a LITTLE bit more room than most hens - the "access" to the outdoors can be as pathetic as a tiny hole in a cramped chicken coop.

Battery eggs, which you may have heard of, are now deceitfully labelled as "eggs from caged hens" to make it easier to hide the fact that the hens are treated so appalingly. In the battery system, hens are cramped into cages so small they can not even stretch their wings. Caged Layer Osteoporosis (brittle bones) is something that happens to caged hens.



With both dairy cows and egg-laying hens, once they can no longer produce, they are slaughtered. There are also environmental impacts, and with milk there seems to be, despite the claims by the milk industry, negative health impacts. There is also the huge amount of stress cause to the animals, especially to the calves who are removed from their Mothers. I've listed only a small amount of reasons why some people don't eat eggs or drink milk. you can google the rest.

And I'm sure people will deny any of this actually happens, or will claim they've visited a dairy farm or egg farm and it's all lies. But you can google it and go visit a farm yourself. You can also look here http://www.vegansociety.com/html/animals/exploitation/cows/dairy_cow.php

And P.S. vegetarians and vegans eat substitutes because they don't involve the harm that happens with the real thing and because they miss the taste - telling them to eat the real thing is ridiculous, because it's telling them to take part in the harm of an animal, which is something they try to avoid.
The_pantless_hero
07-07-2007, 14:23
*snip*
Error, error, failure to care imminent.
CthulhuFhtagn
08-07-2007, 05:31
Well, the grass still has to be grown, and that uses up land that could be used for crops, and the grass is still fertilized and normally treated, so it isn't so much healthier.

So grass doesn't grow in the wild. Also, apparently wherever grass can grow crops can grow.
Multiland
08-07-2007, 23:38
So grass doesn't grow in the wild. Also, apparently wherever grass can grow crops can grow.

Crops that are then wasted on rearing animals for meat
Domici
09-07-2007, 00:20
Well, the grass still has to be grown, and that uses up land that could be used for crops, and the grass is still fertilized and normally treated, so it isn't so much healthier.

But it doesn't require pesticides because hardly anything kills grass. And the cows themselves can fertilize the grass. btw, a lot of the e.coli that we get comes from cows who have been fed with grain instead of with grass.
Agolthia
09-07-2007, 00:22
So grass doesn't grow in the wild. Also, apparently wherever grass can grow crops can grow.

Don't be silly. Obviously somebody must have fertillised ALL the places where grass grows. Must have takens ages seeing how wide-spread grass and obviously where grass can gow, cereal crops can be grown. I mean they are all PLANTS arent they. Sheesh, talk about dense :D.
Ariddia
09-07-2007, 09:29
What makes my brain spin out is fake meat. Meatless hamburgers, tofu hot dogs, fishless fish, chicken-like nuggets, veggie sausage, pepperoni substitute, cheese-like slices, even meatless meatballs(a.k.a. balls)!

What the hell?!? :confused:

As a vegetarian, I don't eat "fake meat" (doesn't appeal to me), but I understand those who do. If you've been a meat-eater and you want to be a vegetarian, I suppose it helps. Some people say they'd like to be vegetarians but aren't sure they could give up meat; this helps them. Several people I know assure me it tastes the same, if not better. So if someone wants the taste of meat without being responsible for the physical and psychological torture of countless animals (you did ask why they would want it), "fake meat" is probably a godsend.
Lunatic Goofballs
09-07-2007, 12:59
As a vegetarian, I don't eat "fake meat" (doesn't appeal to me), but I understand those who do. If you've been a meat-eater and you want to be a vegetarian, I suppose it helps. Some people say they'd like to be vegetarians but aren't sure they could give up meat; this helps them. Several people I know assure me it tastes the same, if not better. So if someone wants the taste of meat without being responsible for the physical and psychological torture of countless animals (you did ask why they would want it), "fake meat" is probably a godsend.

Like Hufu! :D

http://www.comedycentral.com/sitewide/media_player/play.jhtml?itemId=24513
The_pantless_hero
09-07-2007, 13:27
Crops that are then wasted on rearing animals for meat
I might care when you can show a study that says if all people switched to eating crops instead of animals, we would need less land for crops.
The Infinite Dunes
09-07-2007, 14:20
Jeebus, Multiland is on to something... using NSG as a free focus group. I like it.
UpwardThrust
09-07-2007, 16:40
Not true. To produce one amount of meat, ten times as many plants have to be grown and tended to to feed it. Trophic level inefficiency, see.

Dont know bout you but the grass around here grows by itself we do not have to "grow" or maintain anything special to feed them except a little hay for the winter and the only things that go on those fields is manure when we do it sometimes just alfalfa in a fallow field that takes even less work.
UpwardThrust
09-07-2007, 16:42
Crops that are then wasted on rearing animals for meat

You eat grass and hay? cause those are the only crops "wasted" on our animals ... maybe some left over corn if we have not sold it all off
Gift-of-god
09-07-2007, 17:16
Are these for family consumption? A restaurant menu? For which neighbourhood? Some are good for some people and some are good for others.

Too vague.
Smunkeeville
09-07-2007, 17:19
You eat grass and hay? cause those are the only crops "wasted" on our animals ... maybe some left over corn if we have not sold it all off

shhh.....don't even attempt to point out that he doesn't know what he's talking about.......just nod and smile.
UpwardThrust
09-07-2007, 17:19
shhh.....don't even attempt to point out that he doesn't know what he's talking about.......just nod and smile.

Lol we dont even use farmible land ... the pasture land is a combination woods and hill side

It is just peachy with over a hundred years of grass growth (thats all thats ever been there) but if we were to till that up the lake would be a royal mess from all the runoff
Smunkeeville
09-07-2007, 17:25
Lol we dont even use farmible land ... the pasture land is a combination woods and hill side

It is just peachy with over a hundred years of grass growth (thats all thats ever been there) but if we were to till that up the lake would be a royal mess from all the runoff

I know that, I grew up (in the summers anyway) working on a ranch......I know that chickens are not roaming animals, but that they are community animals and enjoy having a hutch.......but you can't tell that to the "free range chicken" folks, they don't wanna hear it.
The Infinite Dunes
09-07-2007, 17:27
I know that, I grew up (in the summers anyway) working on a ranch......I know that chickens are not roaming animals, but that they are community animals and enjoy having a hutch.......but you can't tell that to the "free range chicken" folks, they don't wanna hear it.As far as I was aware free range meant a hutch, with access to the outside to eating and various things, as opposed to battery farming.
The Abe Froman
09-07-2007, 18:00
I'd suggest romaine lettuce instead of iceburg. I'd also like to see more salad variety, and a pesto vingarette dressing.
Isidoor
09-07-2007, 18:34
This weekend I'm going to a festival, but i don't think there will be a lot of vegetarian food sold there. I also won't have the possibility to cook and because I'm a vegetarian I can't take the original (http://www.allosupermarche.be/files/zwan.vienne.jpg)-festival-breakfast (http://images.google.be/imgres?imgurl=http://www.fotostudioleemans.be/pack-shots/Jupiler%25201.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.zoepers.web-log.nl/&h=325&w=258&sz=52&hl=nl&start=1&tbnid=XqKbfdTT8wPhDM:&tbnh=118&tbnw=94&prev=/images%3Fq%3Djupiler%26gbv%3D2%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Dnl%26sa%3DG) (of course I can take the beer, but not the other stuff (I think there is at least a little bit of meat in it)
So anybody has any ideas for unhealthy vegetarian food you can eat without cooking? It should also stay 'eatable' for at least 4 days without cooling.
Domici
13-07-2007, 00:47
As a vegetarian, I don't eat "fake meat" (doesn't appeal to me), but I understand those who do. If you've been a meat-eater and you want to be a vegetarian, I suppose it helps. Some people say they'd like to be vegetarians but aren't sure they could give up meat; this helps them. Several people I know assure me it tastes the same, if not better. So if someone wants the taste of meat without being responsible for the physical and psychological torture of countless animals (you did ask why they would want it), "fake meat" is probably a godsend.

I've tried the fake meat thing. Not in an effort to quit eating meat, just a desire to try new things.

It does not taste like meat. It does aftertaste like meat. Eat a tofu hot dog and twenty minutes later you'll be pretty sure it tasted like a hot dog. Try another and you'll come back to your senses.
Commonalitarianism
13-07-2007, 03:40
Tsk, tsk. A vegetarian menu with no salads. Please include some salads. Also no soups. Please include some soups. Where is the steamed veggie platter. Nor fruit salad, no fresh fruit, no fat free sorbet or deserts, no raw food platters. It is pretty unhealthy for a vegetarian menu. Lots of fried food and fake meat. Where is the couscous? Where is the falafel?