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What American sports do you like or dislike? And why do you like or dislike them?

Here are mine.
Likes:
Football- If you don't like football, you can't be a good American.:p
Basketball-Something to watch if there isn't anything on TV on a Sunday.
Hockey-Used to hate the sport, then watching for the odd fight. Now I like it.
Tennis-I don't watch this alot, only when one of the Williams sisters or Sharapova is on.
Soccer- I know alot of Americans don't like this, but it is hardly the worst sport. Can be pretty interesting.

Dislikes:
Golf- Doesn't even really count as a sport, so damn boring.
Baseball- Suprisingly more boring then Golf. Would be better if more guys actually hit the ball, or worked out. Seriously, how is spending half your time sitting on your ass a sport?
Nascar- How is driving in a doughnut for 2 hours a sport? Seriously, crashes aren't even that frequent...can't think of a reason somebody would watch this...

I dislike them all with the exception of Soccer. I hate how the sports events hog the free TV channels on the weekends and some week nights. :(

I like ice hockey, rugby, soccer, boxing, tae kwon do, and mixed martial arts. I also like luge, skeleton, and a number of other winter olympic sports.

I dislike football, I loathe baseball, basketball sucks, tennis and golf are mind-numbingly boring, NASCAR is lame, and "extreme" sports are dumb.

Football- If you don't like football, you can't be a good American.

:rolleyes:

Like:
Metaball - like European football, only that it's just the ball, you, and whoever is not too afraid to intervene: it's great fun and probably both physically and mentally healthy to just play around with a ball.

Krolf - You know croquet, you know golf: but combining these yields the ultimate afternoon lawn pastime activity.


Dislike:
American football - because you are not supposed to insert breaks for the sake of advertisements; nor are you supposed to call it football when people barely ever touch the ball with their feet.

EDIT: Just noticed the "American" in the initiating post, which might render some of the above mentioned sports irrelevant in the context. No spam intended.

Likes:
1) NASCAR is the best man ~ highly more scientific than just going in circles given the differences in tracks; weather; engines; positioning; drivers
(plus they pray before each race ;p)

2) Soccer ~ Premire League; European; and Sud American. It's like ballet with contact but no pads.

3) College Basketball ~ the epitome of team sports. Pros are too star oriented until the end when my Spurs show how it's done

4) Football. Dallas Cowboys rock. Plus I get to see all Texas Longhorn homer games in person.

Dislikes:
1) Tennis ~ Borg was the greatest but when wood rackets died so did the classic matches.

2) Golf ~ hit the ball; go chase the ball. Boring... but then again like NASCAR there is a science re the course; the weather; positioning; the players. Maybe it is just too silver spooned for me.

3) Baseball ~ Once was the greatest but the changes which destroyed quality pitching and enhanced homeruns (to include steroids) leaves me didinterested.

4) The Olympics ~ doping; doping; doping

PS Hockey would be great were it not for the most inept commisioner and team owners whhich make it virtually impossible to witness on TV
(Red Wings Rock!!!)

Motorsport is both what I like and what I dislike. I dislike (well, rather more strongly than that) oval racing like IRL and NASCAR. I very much like pretty much any other motorsport, including bike racing, with my favourite being F1 and MotoGP.

Dislike:
The American sport of invading soveriegn Nations and telling the World what to do.

Happy Fourth of July

Dislike:
The American sport of invading soveriegn Nations and telling the World what to do

I actually think it was the Europeans who pioneered that sport.

Oh, and just FYI, if you're thinking about going into comedy, don't quit your day job.

Dislikes:

- Hockey
- Soccer
- Baseball
- American Football (Except on Superbowl Sunday...because of all teh funny commercials)
- Rugby
- Lacross
- Field Hockey
- Cheerleading (if you can even consider THAT a sport...)

Likes:

- Golf
- Bowling
- "World's Strongest Man" competitions (Just so friggin hilarious)
- UFC
- Competitive Eating
- Competitive video gaming (fuck you, it's a sport in my eyes)

Golf is a retirement sport, and is rubbish to watch. The only point in it is for something to do while chatting.

Big fan of football/soccer (it being mainly non-contact is the point, it doesn't mean it's rubbish) and Rugby. I don't mind American Football, but I only vaguely understand the tactics/rules, since the only coverage I get is crappy highlights shows at absurd times of the morning; which I've given up on.

Baseball is soul destroying. I've yet to find a sport that bores me more, and I watch cricket.

Dislikes:

- Hockey
- Soccer
- Baseball
- American Football (Except on Superbowl Sunday...because of all teh funny commercials)
- Rugby
- Lacross
- Field Hockey
- Cheerleading (if you can even consider THAT a sport...)

Likes:

- Golf
- Bowling
- "World's Strongest Man" competitions (Just so friggin hilarious)
- UFC
- Competitive Eating
- Competitive video gaming (fuck you, it's a sport in my eyes)

Let me get this straight... cheerleading, which requires a lot of physical training and teamwork, is not a sport, but competitive video gaming is? And being a glutton is more of a sport than cheerleading? And rolling a ball down an alley*? And picking up heavy shit? Hell, if that's a sport, they should make moving a sport.

*If bowling counts as a sport, then I'm adding skeeball to my list of sports I like.

Let me get this straight... cheerleading, which requires a lot of physical training and teamwork, is not a sport, but competitive video gaming is? And being a glutton is more of a sport than cheerleading? And rolling a ball down an alley*? And picking up heavy shit? Hell, if that's a sport, they should make moving a sport.

*If bowling counts as a sport, then I'm adding skeeball to my list of sports I like.

It's been done before, but forum spamming as a sport...

As for cheerleading, it verges over into dance for me. But so does the 'rhythmic gymnastics' they have in the olympics.

I dislike all sports, as I am crap at nearly everything. Wait, no, I am crap at everything.

Cricket is the only sport worth mentioning. All the others are just distractions for when it's out of the cricket season.

It's been done before, but forum spamming as a sport...

As for cheerleading, it verges over into dance for me. But so does the 'rhythmic gymnastics' they have in the olympics.

I'm not saying it's really a full-fledged sport, I'm just saying it's more so than eating, picking stuff up, and playing Starcraft.

Skydiving, swimming, kayaking and boxing are the sports I regularly train at although i've been spending more and more time skydiving (or trying to thanks to the latest weather) than the last two. I do manage to swim twice a day and for the past two months i've been managing about 8km per day.

I'm not saying it's really a full-fledged sport, I'm just saying it's more so than eating, picking stuff up, and playing Starcraft.

I'm with you there. Although I'd say weightlifting is a sport, and deserves to be in the olympics. Corresponding with the 'fastest, furthest, other superlatives etc' ideal. Apart from that, *agrees heartily*

i like watching rugby (union FTW!), ice hockey, and to some extent snooker

i like(d) playing rugby (i am Welsh ;)), going swimming, kayaking, 10 pin bowling, and tennis


i dislike golf, football (soccer... mostly for the people i've known who've loved it a little too much) and NASCAR

It kills me when American sports fans complain that cars rockin' at 180 mph + door to door, nose to tail is boring and then crack their Coors Light and wax poetic about Baseball and (American) Football. What the fuck, man-it's either ten seconds of grab-ass followed by like five minutes of standing in circles and crowd shots, or standing around waiting for a yutz to stop scratching himself long enough to throw a ball that less than half the time someone will hit. Seriously, get over yourselves. You like what you like, that's fine. Not everything is for everybody, but c'mon...lets not stick heads up asses.

Even under full course yellows (the bane of the racing fans existance, and give lie to the notion that all they want to see is wrecks-the bigger the wreck, the longer the caution, the less the racing. You savages might be out for blood, but we're there for the racing) shit is still going on, strategies are being shifted, the pit crews go into overdrive to move their cars up positions.

So obviously, I like racing. Because even after 12 hours of it, it can still provide finishes like this one. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OL2HF-sFLnc)

I don't like sports that require effort and winners.

So..

Likes:
Skydiving?

All american sports suck. Real sports, such as football (and you know it's not called soccer) are much better.

I actually think it was the Europeans who pioneered that sport.

Oh, and just FYI, if you're thinking about going into comedy, don't quit your day job.

Europeans may have been the pioneers but WE Americans are today's champions of Invading Soveriegn Nations. (ISN)

My day job is School Teacher... come into my class some day and I shall help you learn the difference between Satire and Comedy. On second thought, remain ignorant.

Kisses sweeties

Likes:
- Association Football
- Cricket
- Rugby Union
- Ice Hockey (though you rarely get to see or play it over here)
- Sumo (used to love watching it on Eurosports, now I'm out of the loop)
- Virtually any form of Motorsport
- Lawn Bowls (yep, that's right)
- Handball (again, you never see it around here)

Dislikes:
- AFL
- Basketball
- American Football
- Rugby League
- Motorsports involving bikes rather than cars, or ovals rather than tracks
- Netball
- Hockey
- Baseball
- Horse racing
- Most watersports (except maybe diving)
- Gymnastics and Dance

So obviously, I like racing. Because even after 12 hours of it, it can still provide finishes like this one. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OL2HF-sFLnc)

That Porsche was so much better on the brakes and through the slower corners that it was almost comical.

I like hockey and soccer primarily, as well as most "competitive" sports like football, baseball, basketball, tennis, speed skating, etc. There's very few sports I don't find to have the capacity for entertainment, because most sports do at least have *something* to watch for.

Having said that, I don't like "judged" sports (because it's almost always subjective), golf (zero drama- the only entertainment value is watching bad shots, because those are hilarious), motorsport (I know you need to be in good physical condition to drive, but it's dull just watching cars or bikes), boxing or Ultimate Fighting (just never got into it), and "professional" wrestling ('cause it's not "really" competitive or, for that matter, has any great actors whatsoever). I also don't really like the broadcasts for "extreme" sports, because they're usually a little too "amped up", but some of the sports do look interesting.

Hockey
Baseball
Baketball

I watch MLS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_League_Soccer)and sometimes, and I watched the World Cup...but I dunno if I would count soccer...

That Porsche was so much better on the brakes and through the slower corners that it was almost comical.

The Ferrari was gambling on tires, the Porsche had a fresher set on, and then the good folks at Flying Lizard (whose headquarters are about an hour from me at Infineon Raceway) really know how and when to pour it on in endurance races. I'd be as pissed as he was had that happened to me. I was hoping for a re-match at Le Mans but it didn't materialize.

Hockey's good. Watching the baseball playoffs is usually alright. And on the rare occasion I can catch a game over here (5AM on a Saturday sucks) , I watch English Premier League (At least I think that's the league name) soccer.

What American sports do you like or dislike? And why do you like or dislike them?

Here are mine.
Likes:
Football- If you don't like football, you can't be a good American.:p
Basketball-Something to watch if there isn't anything on TV on a Sunday.
Hockey-Used to hate the sport, then watching for the odd fight. Now I like it.
Tennis-I don't watch this alot, only when one of the Williams sisters or Sharapova is on.
Soccer- I know alot of Americans don't like this, but it is hardly the worst sport. Can be pretty interesting.

Dislikes:
Golf- Doesn't even really count as a sport, so damn boring.
Baseball- Suprisingly more boring then Golf. Would be better if more guys actually hit the ball, or worked out. Seriously, how is spending half your time sitting on your ass a sport?
Nascar- How is driving in a doughnut for 2 hours a sport? Seriously, crashes aren't even that frequent...can't think of a reason somebody would watch this...

Football-Hell yeah, Go Cowboys
Basketball-Hell Yeah, Go Mavericks
Hockey-Hell Yeah, go Stars
Tennis-Hell Yeah, Maria Sharapova and Anna Kournikouva says it all
Soccer-Hell Yeah, go Chelsea
Baseball-Hell Yeah, go Rangers

Golf-Hell No! Boring...
Nascar-Hell No! Boring...

And you forgot one!

Swimming-Hell Yeah, Amanda Beard says it all.

Lost my right leg a few years ago so I yam less sporty than I used to be however I can still ride my mountain bike.

Back in the day: I played football until college. Had to quit: too many concussions [which i think explains a lot :rolleyes: ]

Never cared for baseball. I'd rather be fishing. Is that a sport?

Soccer and basketball were all good but I never got to play much of it. Football coaches don't like for you to play other sports.

In these parts wrestling wasn't a sport. It is whut two Bubbas did when they got too drunk to fish. :D

Football-Hell yeah, Go Cowboys
Basketball-Hell Yeah, Go Mavericks
Hockey-Hell Yeah, go Stars
Tennis-Hell Yeah, Maria Sharapova and Anna Kournikouva says it all
Soccer-Hell Yeah, go Chelsea
Baseball-Hell Yeah, go Rangers

Golf-Hell No! Boring...
Nascar-Hell No! Boring...

And you forgot one!

Swimming-Hell Yeah, Amanda Beard says it all.

You've got the worst taste in teams I've ever seen.

I mean, I guess you're from Texas, so I can sort of excuse hometown pride... but CHELSEA?!

You've got the worst taste in teams I've ever seen.

I mean, I guess you're from Texas, so I can sort of excuse hometown pride... but CHELSEA?!

I live in Dallas, and I'm a huge homer.

Yeah, the only reason i root for Chelsea is Ballack. Been my favorite player for I don't know how long. I used to root for Bayern Munich when he played for them.

I live in Dallas, and I'm a huge homer.

Yeah, the only reason i root for Chelsea is Ballack. Been my favorite player for I don't know how long. I used to root for Bayern Munich when he played for them.

Well, at least you didn't say Drogba. *shudder* :D

Likes:
Hockey
Cheerleading
Stripping

Meh:
UFC
Boxing
NASCAR
Lacrose
Football

Dislike:
Baseball
Basketball
Baseketball
Golf
Tennis

The Rest:
Don't really exist.

As a general rule, all of them that I've run into.

If I need entertainment, there's a million things I'd rather be doing or watching; for exercise, I'll work out without playing with a ball thank you very much.

EDIT - I feel compelled to inform the world, NASCAR is not a sport. If NASCAR is a sport, then so are Poker, Halo 2 tournaments, Magic the Gathering and Mock Trial.

EDIT - I feel compelled to inform the world, NASCAR is not a sport. If NASCAR is a sport, then so are Poker, Halo 2 tournaments, Magic the Gathering and Mock Trial.

This argument is a waste of time.

This argument is a waste of time.

Yes, yes it is. Which is why we're not having it.

Other than to post the definition of 'sport.'

A) Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively. ~American Heritage Dictionary

1.an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc. ~Dictionary.com

There is little to nothing athletic about NASCAR. Meaning that it is just a competition with rules. Now, I see nothing inherently valuable about being versus not being as sport, and I'd be more than happy to admit NASCAR as a sport as long as we admit all competitions with rules can be called sports. Including but not limited to Mock Trial, Magic the Gathering, Poker, and multiplayer Video Games.

Okay I'm done.

Yes, yes it is. Which is why we're not having it.

Other than to post the definition of 'sport.'

A) Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively. ~American Heritage Dictionary

1.an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc. ~Dictionary.com

There is little to nothing athletic about NASCAR. Meaning that it is just a competition with rules. Now, I see nothing inherently valuable about being versus not being as sport, and I'd be more than happy to admit NASCAR as a sport as long as we admit all competitions with rules can be called sports. Including but not limited to Mock Trial, Magic the Gathering, Poker, and multiplayer Video Games.

Okay I'm done.
There is nothing physical about car racing? You've never done it have you?

There is nothing physical about car racing? You've never done it have you?

I really don't want to get into this. But no.

Yes, it takes the ability to shift, and push pedals. And since you're going fast, you might get your heart to race or break out in a sweat. Occasionally you'll be forced to turn a wheel. In that sense, it's physical as you can't do it just with your mind.

But it's not physical in the sense a sport is physical. In the sense a football player or a hockey player or an American football player is doing something physical, requiring tremendous amounts of physical exertion. It's not athletic.

But ironically enough I just got back from the gym, and I'm tired, so I'll leave it at that. You remain at liberty to think for yourself.

I really don't want to get into this. But no.

Yes, it takes the ability to shift, and push pedals. And since you're going fast, you might get your heart to race or break out in a sweat. Occasionally you'll be forced to turn a wheel. In that sense, it's physical as you can't do it just with your mind.

But it's not physical in the sense a sport is physical. In the sense a football player or a hockey player or an American football player is doing something physical, requiring tremendous amounts of physical exertion. It's not athletic.

But ironically enough I just got back from the gym, and I'm tired, so I'll leave it at that. You remain at liberty to think for yourself.

Your ignorance of what it takes to drive a car at 180 mph for up to 600 miles is astounding.

Even your own dictionary contained racing.

"Auto racing, bull fighting, and mountain climbing are the only real sports ... all others are games." - Ernest Hemingway

The physical endurance of a driver, not to mention his (or her) reaction times, ability to react, place the car, manuver it amongst the other drivers, are all physically demanding.You palming your steering wheel driving your Corolla home from the supermarket is no more an equivalent of racing than walking down the hall is an equivalent of running a marathon.

Because of your ignorance of what it takes to drive a race car, your argument is a total waste of time.

"Auto racing, bull fighting, and mountain climbing are the only real sports ... all others are games." - Ernest Hemingway

Stabbing the shit out of bulls is a sport?

Likes

Baseball - I love baseball, Yankees fan as well
Soccer - I don't mind soccer I'll watch like the World Cup but I'm no soccer fanatic

Dislikes

Tennis - Meh, 2 people or 4 people running back and fourth hitting a light ball with an oversized racket, boring
Golf - Is not a sport
Football - If I wanted to watch a bunch of meat heads throw around a ball and crash into each other I'll just drive through the ghetto
Basketball - Running up and down a court throwing a ball in a hoop, boring
Hockey - Also boring

Annoyances

Poker Championships - Watching paint dry is more entertaining

Stabbing the shit out of bulls is a sport?

Yeah, well, Hemingway was kind of a dick. It's just a fun quote, it doesn't hold up as proof of anything. I wouldn't go in for stabbing the shit out of bulls much myself.

Football- Love it, college, pro, high-school, in person, televized... amazing

Basketball- Love college basketball, hate NBA b/c no teamwork or defense

Hockey- Enjoy it in person, never liked it on TV

Tennis- Playing it is okay, but never a big watcher

Soccer- I really enjoy watching a good match even though I am an American football lover; I really enjoy watching things develop, especially when it is disrupted by a great save

Golf- Awesome to watch in person, I can only watch it on TV if it is the final round of a big tournament

Baseball- I enjoy playing it but can only watch it if it is a team I really like

Nascar- I don't usually watch entire races but I do follow a driver or two and I do like to watch the last 10-20 laps of a race

Bowling- Hate it

Billiards- Nope

Gymnastics- Nope

Figure skating- Boo

"Real" Wrestling (college, freestyle, or greco-roman)- Love it

"Fake" Wrestling- Stupid

Boxing- Love it

Mixed Martial Arts- Love it

Olympic sports- despite what I said about gymnastics and figure skating earlier, I can watch just about every sport when it is olympics time

Your ignorance of what it takes to drive a car at 180 mph for up to 600 miles is astounding.

Even your own dictionary contained racing.

"Auto racing, bull fighting, and mountain climbing are the only real sports ... all others are games." - Ernest Hemingway

The physical endurance of a driver, not to mention his (or her) reaction times, ability to react, place the car, manuver it amongst the other drivers, are all physically demanding.You palming your steering wheel driving your Corolla home from the supermarket is no more an equivalent of racing than walking down the hall is an equivalent of running a marathon.

Because of your ignorance of what it takes to drive a race car, your argument is a total waste of time.

Yet you seem to be wasting your time. Curious.

First of all, you don't know anything about me, and are proving quite incapable of holding civilized conversation. Knock it off.

Second, Ernest Hemingway quotes, while impressive at parties and the like, prove nothing.

Third, if reaction times, endurance, maneuver and placement make something a sport, then I submit the marathon of Halo games that take place at tournaments qualify as a sport as it requires exactly the same things. As does everything else I listed.

So either anything under the high sun can be a sport if it's competitive and demanding, or we limit 'sport' to things that require physical exertion such as running, kicking, hitting, et cetera. It really doesn't matter to me which one you choose, but from that position I do not budge.

Enough of this. I bid you good day, or good night as the case may be.

Third, if reaction times, endurance, maneuver and placement make something a sport, then I submit the marathon of Halo games that take place at tournaments qualify as a sport as it requires exactly the same things. As does everything else I listed.

Your case may be valid, if it took place in a sauna, and the controls needed several pounds of force to be manipulated.

Golf. I just don't see myself playing that "sport".

Well, when it comes to sports i like playing, i will play anything.

But i really only watch (American) football, soccer (football), basketball (only the last few minutes), cricket (always a fun way to waste a day), and tennis.

PS Hockey would be great were it not for the most inept commisioner and team owners whhich make it virtually impossible to witness on TV
(Red Wings Rock!!!)

Lucky for me I live near enough to Canada that I can get the CBC on my antennae. Hockey Night in Canada is awesome.

Also, living in Michigan, I have ample opportunity to go watch hockey live. This coming season I plan on going to several Saginaw Spirit games, but that's mainly to see Steagle Colbeagle the Eagle. Luckily, Saginaw is only about an hour away.

Dislike:
The American sport of invading soveriegn Nations and telling the World what to do.

Happy Fourth of July

Nah, Euro's started that little 'sport'.

Americans just do it better.:D

Your ignorance of what it takes to drive a car at 180 mph for up to 600 miles is astounding.

Even your own dictionary contained racing.

"Auto racing, bull fighting, and mountain climbing are the only real sports ... all others are games." - Ernest Hemingway

The physical endurance of a driver, not to mention his (or her) reaction times, ability to react, place the car, manuver it amongst the other drivers, are all physically demanding.You palming your steering wheel driving your Corolla home from the supermarket is no more an equivalent of racing than walking down the hall is an equivalent of running a marathon.

Because of your ignorance of what it takes to drive a race car, your argument is a total waste of time.

*sigh* Nascar isn't a sport. And if it is, it is one of the most boring sports that come to mind. It may take all that 'skill' to drive a car in an oval for an hour or so, but the truth is the sport is boring for all of us sitting outside. Its like baseball, there really is no excitement or reason for the fans to be there. You just end up sitting there for 2+ hours with a bunch of sweaty people, watching something that would make watching paint dry look exciting.

Of course it's "Which American sports do you like or dislike" and not "Which sports do you like or dislike". Anyway.

Football(real football) has always been the best sport to watch and play. I've never played it in a club or something similar, only with friends.

Tennis. I play it with friends and family for fun. It was hard in the beginning when neither of us had any skills at all and we were just grateful if we got in the serve but now it's a thrill when we play and have long duels.

Other sports that I like are Hockey, table-tennis(played it for a couple of years before), handball, rugby(I haven't watched it anything at all almoust but played it at school once and it was really fun) and many more probably.

I absoluty Luuuurve Figure Skating! It's the greatest sport on earth.
And gymnastics, gaming, tennis, soccer, baseball, and Ice Hockey and Field Hockey

I do not like:
wel....any racing sport....bit boring....they don't do anything but crash

Your ignorance of what it takes to drive a car at 180 mph for up to 600 miles is astounding.

Even your own dictionary contained racing.

"Auto racing, bull fighting, and mountain climbing are the only real sports ... all others are games." - Ernest Hemingway

The physical endurance of a driver, not to mention his (or her) reaction times, ability to react, place the car, manuver it amongst the other drivers, are all physically demanding.You palming your steering wheel driving your Corolla home from the supermarket is no more an equivalent of racing than walking down the hall is an equivalent of running a marathon.

Because of your ignorance of what it takes to drive a race car, your argument is a total waste of time.

thing is, while there is undoubtedly skill involved, if you don't appreciate that then you're just gonna be bored. true with almost any sport. true with me when our exchange teacher from south carolina showed us a video in class once.

however the main thing about nascar with me is while there's skill, the same skill is being played on Formula One circuits, with the added difficulty of hairpin bends and faster cars and stuff. i find F1 boring, too, though... so i guess motor racing just isn't for me :p

not meaning to attack the sport, just explain why i put it in my dislike list :) it goes on too long too... i like rugby when its all over in 80 minutes :P

Except for walking all sports are unhealthy.

well i just plane don't find any sport as interesting as being creative. or playing with immaginative creative things when i'm not feeling creative myself.

if i could live in an endless maze and be endlessly exploring to where i wouldn't get tired of it, that would be a good kind of thing to participate in.

but i really don't see competition as all that gratifying. i know there's moments of exicitement and all that, but i'm sorry but that doesn't really, isn't, what really does it for me.

spectating at anything is frustrating, even a musical concert. not because i could do any better then anyone, or even as good, i just feel like i have to be doing though. doing, but not about any kind of competing eather. rather doing to express myself. to create my gift, which is shairing my visualizations from inside my head of the kind of world we could all be living in, and of a kind, that i really think if enough people could get the chance to expereince, the'd realize how unkind it's been, themselves to themselves, to put all the kinds of arbitrary assumptions ahead of it that are preventing us from doing so.

=^^=
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*sigh* Nascar isn't a sport. And if it is, it is one of the most boring sports that come to mind. It may take all that 'skill' to drive a car in an oval for an hour or so, but the truth is the sport is boring for all of us sitting outside. Its like baseball, there really is no excitement or reason for the fans to be there. You just end up sitting there for 2+ hours with a bunch of sweaty people, watching something that would make watching paint dry look exciting.
*sigh* yourself. Since when is being liked by you a requirement for something being a sport? Literally millions of fans actually do get something out of it, actually do enjoy watching it. Bottom line is, it's the most competitive racing series around where close finishes are the norm and lead changes are almost constant. You don't like it? Fine. That doesn't disqualify it as a sport.
thing is, while there is undoubtedly skill involved, if you don't appreciate that then you're just gonna be bored. true with almost any sport. true with me when our exchange teacher from south carolina showed us a video in class once.

however the main thing about nascar with me is while there's skill, the same skill is being played on Formula One circuits, with the added difficulty of hairpin bends and faster cars and stuff. i find F1 boring, too, though... so i guess motor racing just isn't for me :p

not meaning to attack the sport, just explain why i put it in my dislike list :) it goes on too long too... i like rugby when its all over in 80 minutes :P
I'm always in this position and it pisses me off. I already said that on the list of motorsports that I like, NASCAR is just above drag racing on the bottom of the list. And that list includes lawn mower racing.

But fair is fair. NASCAR is competitive, and if you're into actual racing instead of a stunt/car show, then you'd be hard pressed to do better than NASCAR, the racing is close and competitive. Even with legendary drivers like Richard Petty or Junior Jackson, it never became a one driver show like F1 or other series (including my favorite, endurance sports cars and the Audi show).

The drivers push against the heavy and constant Gs in the car and have to muscle them around that track, hardly equivalent to thumbing a controller, a laughably stupid assertion.

It's okay to not like the sport. I can't stand baseball, but that doesn't mean I'm going to make up a bunch of shit about it and piss all over its fans just because I don't like it. I'm just not that self important, I realize that not everything is for everybody. If only some of you would get over yourselves long enough to realize the same. (Not you, PM, just in general)

I really don't want to get into this. But no.

Yes, it takes the ability to shift, and push pedals. And since you're going fast, you might get your heart to race or break out in a sweat. Occasionally you'll be forced to turn a wheel. In that sense, it's physical as you can't do it just with your mind.

But it's not physical in the sense a sport is physical. In the sense a football player or a hockey player or an American football player is doing something physical, requiring tremendous amounts of physical exertion. It's not athletic.

But ironically enough I just got back from the gym, and I'm tired, so I'll leave it at that. You remain at liberty to think for yourself.

You do know, yeah, that NASCAR isn't the only form of motor sport?

Take, as the most extreme example of the physical demands of car racing, Formula One. (I'll count it as an American sport, for now, since it has a US GP...)

The racers’ pulse rates stay elevated for hours at a time. Many humans have a resting heart rate of around 70 beats per minute (bpm). But while the average gym-rat’s heart-rate hits around 160bpm during a workout, many F1 drivers experience heart rates of around 200bpm. It’s the sort of rate that would cause most treadmill-plodders to pass out.

David Coulthard, for example, has a resting heart rate of 40bpm, and hits 194bpm during races, but drops back to 48 within 5 minutes. This guy's 36 years old.


And let's not forget the G-forces:

It’s not just muscle tone, though. The drivers’ bodies have to adapt to the unique stresses of the track. Schumacher's former trainer Harry Hawaiian says: “His head weighs 6kg, the helmet 1kg more. When he goes around a corner, his head weighs 40kg - we build neck and shoulder muscles to take that.”

Drivers are subjected to constant G-forces on acceleration, braking, and cornering that are pretty much insane:

In corners, F1 drivers typically experience sideways forces of 4g, and about 5g on braking. As they accelerate out of the corners, they'll feel a 1.5-2g pull. "It's extremely exhausting," says John Nixon of the motorsport group at Cranfield University.

And the heat creates problems:
Lastly, with temperatures hitting 50 degrees C inside their fireproofed suits, the drivers can sweat around two litres during a race. A dehydrated Nelson Piquet was unable to take the winner’s podium after the 1982 Brazilian Grand Prix and had to receive intravenous fluids.

Let's not forget, also, the constant buffeting of the head by wind, and the strength actually needed to turn the wheel.

Sources for this are The Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/thisweek/story/0,,1679722,00.html) and this website (http://www.health24.com/fitness/Cardio/16-1371,11467.asp)

But fair is fair. NASCAR is competitive, and if you're into actual racing instead of a stunt/car show, then you'd be hard pressed to do better than NASCAR, the racing is close and competitive. Even with legendary drivers like Richard Petty or Junior Jackson, it never became a one driver show like F1 or other series (including my favorite, endurance sports cars and the Audi show).

F1 was never a one driver show :p

You do know, yeah, that NASCAR isn't the only form of motor sport?

Take, as the most extreme example of the physical demands of car racing, Formula One. (I'll count it as an American sport, for now, since it has a US GP...)



David Coulthard, for example, has a resting heart rate of 40bpm, and hits 194bpm during races, but drops back to 48 within 5 minutes. This guy's 36 years old.


And let's not forget the G-forces:



Drivers are subjected to constant G-forces on acceleration, braking, and cornering that are pretty much insane:


And the heat creates problems:


Let's not forget, also, the constant buffeting of the head by wind, and the strength actually needed to turn the wheel.

Sources for this are The Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/thisweek/story/0,,1679722,00.html) and this website (http://www.health24.com/fitness/Cardio/16-1371,11467.asp)

Correct. For NASCAR many of the same conditions exist, except that their stuck in a high speed turn for up 5 times longer than the F1 guys, so the high Gs are sustained and longer. Before the tire revolt they were even going faster, with speeds around 220mph.

Yeah, that's just like thumbing a controller.

erm..... I don't really like American sports. At all.

Indy and NASCAR seems little more than driving in an oval for a few hours, and hence a tad tedious.

American Football is too, well, glitzy, ostentatious and hollywood to merit my respect. I prefer Union, and football is simply the finest sport invented. The distasteful nature of many fans notwithstanding, football is both enthralling as a competetive exercise, and a spectacle.

Beyond that, Cricket is more my cup of tea than Ice Hockey, Basketball or Baseball. Rather more serene, tactical, and appealing than any of the above.

Correct. For NASCAR many of the same conditions exist, except that their stuck in a high speed turn for up 5 times longer than the F1 guys, so the high Gs are sustained and longer. Before the tire revolt they were even going faster, with speeds around 220mph.

Yeah, that's just like thumbing a controller.

Then remember that F1 drivers have sequences of high-speed corners, with alternating G-forces, to contend with...the best example being at Silverstone, where in a left-right-left-right-left sequence, each corner is about 4G, and these corners have next to no gap between them...and they have braking to deal with :p

Then remember that F1 drivers have sequences of high-speed corners, with alternating G-forces, to contend with...the best example being at Silverstone, where in a left-right-left-right-left sequence, each corner is about 4G, and these corners have next to no gap between them...and they have braking to deal with :p

Well, I don't want to get into a pissing contest between F1 and NASCAR, I was just pointing out how what you brought up parallels really. Though NASCAR does visit Watkins Glen and Infenion Raceway, and even though they added the wuss chute Infenion is very much a driver's track. That chute is the only straight on it.

Stupid wuss chute...cuts out one of the best turns, a big down hill carousel turn. Even in a racing kart your best bet is to hang the car out and hold on...

like:

football
rugby
tennis
cricket
basketball

...

golf (IT'S NOT THAT BAD)

dislike:

teh ebil american sp0rts (impart from basketball)

Another Favourite of mine Chaos League (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_League)

Like:
football
ice hockey
cricket-I haven't really seen much, but it looks interesting
tetherball-only competitive anything I'm good at

Dislikes:
american football
baseball

Another Favourite of mine Chaos League (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_League)

I'm still amazed that Games Workshop did the sensible thing and decided to work with Cyanide.

I like American football the best - and participate in fantasy football leagues - that's a sport too, right? If you want to particpate in a nation states fantasy football league, e-mail me at montanaman4@hotmail.com.

Love:
Crosscountry
Track/Field

Like:
Baseball
Soccer
Beach Volleyball

Hate:
American Football
Golf
Pro Wrestling
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Like 'em:
SOCCER!
slalom skiing
gymnastics
running- sprints, hurdles
horse racing

Don't Like 'em:
wrestling
american football
golfing