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I have this theory and I would like to know your opinion about that.

I think, during the history of humanity, every Civilization has necessary pass through Dictatorship (any kind of , King from god - imperor - Nazism - Comunism ) for obtain Democracy (or something similar:p)
But, probably, the real necessary ingradient is the culture (knowledge). Without this, or replaced with religious / fanatic-doctrine school, right boost to put down the Dictatorship deseapper.

Ingradients
-Dictatorship
-School
-Unhappyness (obvious?)

So ... What do you think? Am'i forgotting some ingradients.

Thank you for your time, and sorry for the poor english

EDIT:
Probably can help the transformation a particular charismatic person ... but is necessary?

Aye. Is necessary.

Aye. Is necessary.

The charismatic person?:confused:

It's over midnight here ... thank evrybody in advance for the answer. I'll take a look tomorrow

The charismatic person?:confused:

It's over midnight here ... thank evrybody in advance for the answer. I'll take a look tomorrow

It's not nearly midnight here.

The answer is in the pudding.

The answer is in the pudding.

What kind of pudding is it?

What kind of pudding is it?

http://www.ifilm.com/video/2730205

I think that's a good starter theory. Maybe a move toward transparent government is useful too.

I think that's a good starter theory. Maybe a move toward transparent government is useful too.

Right, but unfortunatly if the governor is trasparent or not, cannot be decided by the people.

Another thing i would like to discuss is:

How much time a REAL democracy can exist? 5-10 years? 20?

After a "revolution" the sense of oppression of the past and the hope for the future, keep toghether the REAL Democracy.

I feel here in Italy, after that time the REAL democracy slowly became an Oligarchy ... one side which insult the other side and "vice-versa" ... no chanche to change it.
Only some kind of Political ETHIC can save this kind of situation, but there are too much money in the background!

Wait for some response ...

again, thank you!;)

How much time a REAL democracy can exist? 5-10 years? 20?


Never.
It has been proved (by a mathematician in the mid-'70s, iirc) that a "real democracy" (all political opinions represented in the parliament, executive branch effectively working in the interest of all the citizens etc etc) cannot be achieved.

ps. there's a typo in your signature. It's "yourself", not "yorself":)

Read Plato's Republic for a rather prognostic analysis of democracy. The work is not a political treatise (rather, a moral one), yet Plato does get into ample political analysis in parts.

Your concept of democracy is grossly wrong, democracy is the rule of the people directly, that is equality politically and economically, the Greek translation is 'The common people rule'. Comparing the bipartisan patronage system of 'representative' democracy and capitalism of the modern world with real democracy as espoused in Marxism is fail.

Never.
It has been proved (by a mathematician in the mid-'70s, iirc) that a "real democracy" (all political opinions represented in the parliament, executive branch effectively working in the interest of all the citizens etc etc) cannot be achieved.

ps. there's a typo in your signature. It's "yourself", not "yorself":)

Oh yes, Right indeed. Probably I see this thing in a too "romantic" way. It's bettere if i write not REAL but "real" :p

Read Plato's Republic for a rather prognostic analysis of democracy. The work is not a political treatise (rather, a moral one), yet Plato does get into ample political analysis in parts.

Intersting, i'm going to find it out this week!

Your concept of democracy is grossly wrong, democracy is the rule of the people directly, that is equality politically and economically, the Greek translation is 'The common people rule'. Comparing the bipartisan patronage system of 'representative' democracy and capitalism of the modern world with real democracy as espoused in Marxism is fail.

Yes. I know the pure meaning of Democracy. Againg I've abused the term without re-define it for this thread.

I have to working on it a bit :D thank you.

http://www.ifilm.com/video/2730205
http://www.untitledname.com/archives/upload/2005/12/pudding-monster.jpg