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Happy Independence Day

Alexandrian Ptolemais
03-07-2007, 13:24
Well, I know that it is not quite yet the Fourth of July in the States, but since it is the Fourth of July here in the land of flightless birds; I might as well wish all the American posters here on NSG a Happy Independence Day and I also would like to offer a toast

To Treason! (after all, that is what the signers of the Declaration of Indepedence were doing - had they lost, they would have been hanged, drawn and quartered)
Thumbless Pete Crabbe
03-07-2007, 13:30
*Lights freshly smuggled Mexican firework* :p
UN Protectorates
03-07-2007, 13:36
*Blockades the treasonous colonials*
Thumbless Pete Crabbe
03-07-2007, 13:45
*Blockades the treasonous colonials*

Aha! It's a good thing I've already got the essentials stockpiled:

http://gothamist.com/attachments/tien%20mao/2006_04_coneyopen1.jpg

http://www.grilledcornonthecob.com/images/19-eating-corn-onthe-cob.jpg

:p
Katganistan
03-07-2007, 13:51
Well, I know that it is not quite yet the Fourth of July in the States, but since it is the Fourth of July here in the land of flightless birds; I might as well wish all the American posters here on NSG a Happy Independence Day and I also would like to offer a toast

To Treason! (after all, that is what the signers of the Declaration of Indepedence were doing - had they lost, they would have been hanged, drawn and quartered)

tsk tsk tsk

"Dr. Benjamin Franklin: Treason is a charge invented by winners as an excuse for hanging the losers." -- Except Fat George lost! ;)

"Dr. Benjamin Franklin: A rebellion is always legal in the first person, such as "our rebellion." It is only in the third person - "their rebellion" - that it becomes illegal. "

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068156/quotes

:p

Aha! It's a good thing I've already got the essentials stockpiled:

http://gothamist.com/attachments/tien%20mao/2006_04_coneyopen1.jpg

http://www.grilledcornonthecob.com/images/19-eating-corn-onthe-cob.jpg

:p

You forgot pizza. NY style, of course. ;)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/Katganistan/lenzini-pizza.jpg
Risottia
03-07-2007, 13:54
here in the land of flightless birds
...chickens? ;)


To Treason! (after all, that is what the signers of the Declaration of Indepedence were doing - had they lost, they would have been hanged, drawn and quartered)
Yeah, I bet the treacherous colonials are quite happy that the UK has banned the death penalty for good.;);)

I hope that the US will be celebrating the Independence-from-Bush-and-his-buddies asap.
Cebumopolis
03-07-2007, 13:55
*sobs* Happy independencia
Risottia
03-07-2007, 13:55
"Dr. Benjamin Franklin: Treason is a charge invented by winners as an excuse for hanging the losers." -- Except Fat George lost! ;)

"Dr. Benjamin Franklin: A rebellion is always legal in the first person, such as "our rebellion." It is only in the third person - "their rebellion" - that it becomes illegal. "

Benjamin Franklin was at least three centuries ahead of his time, if you ask me.
Katganistan
03-07-2007, 13:56
...chickens? ;)


Yeah, I bet the treacherous colonials are quite happy that the UK has banned the death penalty for good.;);)

I hope that the US will be celebrating the Independence-from-Bush-and-his-buddies asap.

2008. Then you'll REALLY see some fireworks.
Andaras Prime
03-07-2007, 13:56
And a happy 'land-owning-oligarchs take over America day' to you too!:)
Rambhutan
03-07-2007, 13:57
I didn't realise so many of you are from Belarus.
Katganistan
03-07-2007, 14:02
Benjamin Franklin was at least three centuries ahead of his time, if you ask me.

Indeed. Philosopher, inventor, revolutionary, printer, diplomat, the man who started the first fire company in the US, he started the first lending library in Philadelphia, created a currency for New Jersey that was, at its time, difficult to counterfeit, established the first hospital in the US, et cetera, et cetera..... truly one of our great founding fathers.
Vandal-Unknown
03-07-2007, 14:15
Joined a 4th of July BBQ at the local US consulate.

Didn't quite what I expected:

I WANT THOSE FOODS THAT'S LITTERED IN THIS TOPIC!

I don't want no mac'n'cheese and fried chicken that you can get at a local fried chicken franchise,... I want barbequed ribs, I want hotdogs, I want AMERICANIZED FOOD!

Oh, BTW, happy 4th of July for those who celebrate it.
Risottia
03-07-2007, 14:40
truly one of our great founding fathers.

I'd say that he and Jefferson were the soul and spirit of the American Independence.
Cookesland
03-07-2007, 14:56
Indeed. Philosopher, inventor, revolutionary, printer, diplomat, the man who started the first fire company in the US, he started the first lending library in Philadelphia, created a currency for New Jersey that was, at its time, difficult to counterfeit, established the first hospital in the US, et cetera, et cetera..... truly one of our great founding fathers.

yea if you go down town you can't go for more than 5 steps without finding a statue, plaque, street, etc. named in honor of him...

Happy Independence Day everyone!
Call to power
03-07-2007, 15:10
you'll come back, they always do ;) (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=wipiLrHPzxU)
Carnivorous Lickers
03-07-2007, 16:44
Indeed. Philosopher, inventor, revolutionary, printer, diplomat, the man who started the first fire company in the US, he started the first lending library in Philadelphia, created a currency for New Jersey that was, at its time, difficult to counterfeit, established the first hospital in the US, et cetera, et cetera..... truly one of our great founding fathers.

He could undoubtably be considered among the greatest minds of all time,truly enlightened.

A few things I read about him not too long ago- he was credited with inventing bifocals and also spoke 5 languages,though I didnt see which ones,yet. I assume French is among them, having been a diplomat to France.
Kyronea
03-07-2007, 16:48
Indeed. Philosopher, inventor, revolutionary, printer, diplomat, the man who started the first fire company in the US, he started the first lending library in Philadelphia, created a currency for New Jersey that was, at its time, difficult to counterfeit, established the first hospital in the US, et cetera, et cetera..... truly one of our great founding fathers.

No way any one man is this good. Surely he had some kind of flaw.

Also...it's almost July 4th?!

...

I haven't really been paying attention since most of my time has been focused on wishing my family would get back from Georgia already.
New Mitanni
03-07-2007, 18:10
Well, I know that it is not quite yet the Fourth of July in the States, but since it is the Fourth of July here in the land of flightless birds; I might as well wish all the American posters here on NSG a Happy Independence Day and I also would like to offer a toast

To Treason! (after all, that is what the signers of the Declaration of Indepedence were doing - had they lost, they would have been hanged, drawn and quartered)


Thanks for your kind thoughts :)
Pwnageeeee
03-07-2007, 18:20
Happy 4th of July everyone! Just be careful not to get to drunk tomorrow, or something like this may happen to you:

http://www.funny-games.biz/pictures/drunk/funny-drunk-photo.jpg
Imperial isa
03-07-2007, 18:52
Well, I know that it is not quite yet the Fourth of July in the States, but since it is the Fourth of July here in the land of flightless birds; I might as well wish all the American posters here on NSG a Happy Independence Day and I also would like to offer a toast

To Treason! (after all, that is what the signers of the Declaration of Indepedence were doing - had they lost, they would have been hanged, drawn and quartered)

cazy NZer still was the thrid when you posted :p
Novus-America
03-07-2007, 19:09
No way any one man is this good. Surely he had some kind of flaw.

Also...it's almost July 4th?!

...

I haven't really been paying attention since most of my time has been focused on wishing my family would get back from Georgia already.

Well, I do know that Franklin and his son didn't get along, though that was more due to the latter being the royal governor of New Jersey.
Thumbless Pete Crabbe
04-07-2007, 00:02
Only a few hours away now. :)

All the t.v. stations are getting ready 24 hours of war movies, as usual. Kinda weird. I mean, I love war just as much as the next guy, but they don't even play the good ones. :p
Thumbless Pete Crabbe
04-07-2007, 00:03
Well, I do know that Franklin and his son didn't get along, though that was more due to the latter being the royal governor of New Jersey.

Yeah. And jealousy over Ben's invention of that supercool crystal piano-like thing (the "Armonica.") :p And also his chain of five-and-dime stores in Wisconsin. :p
Ifreann
04-07-2007, 00:07
Enjoy your independence while you can America. Soon you'll be cowering in terror of your new Irish Overlords.
IL Ruffino
04-07-2007, 00:08
I believe there are fireworks tonight.
Thumbless Pete Crabbe
04-07-2007, 00:09
Enjoy your independence while you can America. Soon you'll be cowering in terror of your new Irish Overlords.

Huh? I thought we'd gotten rid of most of the Kennedies?! :p Ah, memories.
IL Ruffino
04-07-2007, 00:09
Enjoy your independence while you can America. Soon you'll be cowering in terror of your new Irish Overlords.

You'd get so drunk that you'd make a wrong turn and invade Poland!
IL Ruffino
04-07-2007, 00:12
No way any one man is this good. Surely he had some kind of flaw.

Also...it's almost July 4th?!

...

I haven't really been paying attention since most of my time has been focused on wishing my family would get back from Georgia already.

He lived in Philadelphia. He has no flaws.
Ifreann
04-07-2007, 00:13
You'd get so drunk that you'd make a wrong turn and invade Poland!

Meh, Poland and the US are more or less the same.
Allemonde
04-07-2007, 00:20
All these pictures of food is making me hungry:

http://www.royaltyfoods.com/images/Porterhouse%20Steaks.jpg
http://laughingsquid.com/wp-content/uploads/anchor_beer.jpg Hmmm Beeeerrrrr!!!
http://www.royaltyfoods.com/images/Porterhouse%20Steaks.jpg

Someone fire up the NS grill!!!
Fassigen
04-07-2007, 00:21
Meh, Poland and the US are more or less the same.

I don't know whom that insults more, Poland or the USA.
Thumbless Pete Crabbe
04-07-2007, 00:29
I don't know whom that insults more, Poland or the USA.

Let's split the difference and just say it insults Chicago the most. :p
Aryavartha
04-07-2007, 03:08
I am actually working on July 4. :(
Darknovae
04-07-2007, 03:11
All these pictures of food is making me hungry:

http://www.royaltyfoods.com/images/Porterhouse%20Steaks.jpg
http://laughingsquid.com/wp-content/uploads/anchor_beer.jpg Hmmm Beeeerrrrr!!!
http://www.royaltyfoods.com/images/Porterhouse%20Steaks.jpg

Someone fire up the NS grill!!!

*lights*

*fire shoots out*

*dodges*

I am already a burnt Pancake...
Katganistan
04-07-2007, 03:18
No way any one man is this good. Surely he had some kind of flaw.

Also...it's almost July 4th?!

...

I haven't really been paying attention since most of my time has been focused on wishing my family would get back from Georgia already.

Well, he had an illegitimate son. And he was in great danger of being hanged before the successful conclusion of the war.
Imperial isa
04-07-2007, 03:18
*lights*

*fire shoots out*

*dodges*

I am already a burnt Pancake...

:eek: should you be handling those
Katganistan
04-07-2007, 03:21
Well, I do know that Franklin and his son didn't get along, though that was more due to the latter being the royal governor of New Jersey.

And being illegitimate, too.

Enjoy your independence while you can America. Soon you'll be cowering in terror of your new Irish Overlords.

Bah, you can't come here! We don't even have good beer!

Meh, Poland and the US are more or less the same.

I doubt Swilatia would agree. Neither do I, for that matter.
Urcea
04-07-2007, 03:22
And a happy 'land-owning-oligarchs take over America day' to you too!:)

I know it's late, but a happy May Day to you too.

Seriously, if you wanna be a big insulting troller, go ahead, but don't do it in this thread.
MrWho
04-07-2007, 03:38
Tomorrow, I'll be at the pier at night, watching the fireworks while munching on as many churros as I can buy. Good times.:)
Oklatex
04-07-2007, 04:09
Aha! It's a good thing I've already got the essentials stockpiled:

http://gothamist.com/attachments/tien%20mao/2006_04_coneyopen1.jpg
:p

That ain't American, it's GERMAN!

This is 'merican.
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:3HE9QNngQ1F4gM:http://www.aycinena.com/index2/index3/graphics/bostonpotbeans.jpg
IL Ruffino
04-07-2007, 04:50
Cheesesteaks are better.
Katganistan
04-07-2007, 04:53
http://www.outie.net/forums/attach/$100cheesesteak.jpg

wiz, wit!
IL Ruffino
04-07-2007, 05:05
wiz, wit!

I hear that's just common sense. :p
Andaluciae
04-07-2007, 06:00
My inalienable rights to beer, fireworks and cole slaw shall not be infringed!
Brachiosaurus
04-07-2007, 06:01
*Lights freshly smuggled Mexican firework* :p

They're arresting people in my city just for having sparklers.
Wilgrove
04-07-2007, 06:15
http://photohome.com/pictures/flag-pictures/american-flag-2a.jpg

HAPPY 4th Of July!!

(You'll have to highlight it to see the white letters.)
Nouvelle Wallonochia
04-07-2007, 06:21
Tomorrow, I'll be at the pier at night, watching the fireworks while munching on as many churros as I can buy. Good times.:)


And I'll be frying nasty KFC chicken from 4pm until 11:30. Since we're not having fireworks this year (the city used the money they get from the tribe to have fireworks at the "Summer Fest" this year) hopefully people will be out of town and not wanting my nasty greasy chicken.
Arab Maghreb Union
04-07-2007, 06:21
http://laughingsquid.com/wp-content/uploads/anchor_beer.jpg

Looks like piss.
IL Ruffino
04-07-2007, 06:22
http://photohome.com/pictures/flag-pictures/american-flag-2a.jpg

HAPPY 4th Of July!!

(You'll have to highlight it to see the white letters.)

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y79/Goomg/other/blahhh/lolz.jpg

http://www.theodorou.freeserve.co.uk/greekcyp/images/flag-greece.gif

How Greek of you. :p
Secret aj man
04-07-2007, 06:29
Well, I know that it is not quite yet the Fourth of July in the States, but since it is the Fourth of July here in the land of flightless birds; I might as well wish all the American posters here on NSG a Happy Independence Day and I also would like to offer a toast

To Treason! (after all, that is what the signers of the Declaration of Indepedence were doing - had they lost, they would have been hanged, drawn and quartered)


good,i would happily give my life so my kids could live in freedom,not under a retarded king and his inbread ancestors.
not to mention,i dont like taxsation without reprensentation.
but every one has their cup of tea..or coffeee in our case...lol
long live the ideal that is america,and screw the bush types that are no different then the english were.
seems we have gone full circle,and are right back were we started..lol..tyranical despots telling us how to live and who to pay..lol.
thats why i hate taxes,i dont like to fund my enemy
New Granada
04-07-2007, 06:37
Happy 4th of July.

+1 to the USA.

Even if we've had a terrible pilot and crew these last six years, we're still prosperous and free, and we seem to be staying that way.

With a little luck, two years from today we can look back at all of this as a bad dream or an illness, that though protracted and unhappy, came to an end and passed.
Gun Manufacturers
04-07-2007, 07:21
Indeed. Philosopher, inventor, revolutionary, printer, diplomat, the man who started the first fire company in the US, he started the first lending library in Philadelphia, created a currency for New Jersey that was, at its time, difficult to counterfeit, established the first hospital in the US, et cetera, et cetera..... truly one of our great founding fathers.

He was also our first postmaster.
Thumbless Pete Crabbe
04-07-2007, 07:31
They're arresting people in my city just for having sparklers.

Same here. Hence the need to go the black market route. :p Also known as: UPS. ;)

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y79/Goomg/other/blahhh/lolz.jpg

http://www.theodorou.freeserve.co.uk/greekcyp/images/flag-greece.gif

How Greek of you. :p

Blasphemy! Save it for Oxi Day, Zorba! :p
Thumbless Pete Crabbe
04-07-2007, 07:32
Happy 4th of July.

+1 to the USA.

Even if we've had a terrible pilot and crew these last six years, we're still prosperous and free, and we seem to be staying that way.

With a little luck, two years from today we can look back at all of this as a bad dream or an illness, that though protracted and unhappy, came to an end and passed.

Amen to that. Eight years of Newt should perk us right back up. :)
Arab Maghreb Union
04-07-2007, 07:38
Amen to that. Eight years of Newt should perk us right back up. :)

:eek:
Thumbless Pete Crabbe
04-07-2007, 07:40
:eek:

I know! I can't believe our good luck sometimes, either. :)
Arab Maghreb Union
04-07-2007, 07:41
I know! I can't believe our good luck sometimes, either. :)

That was an :eek: of fear, not excitement, Pete. ;)
Thumbless Pete Crabbe
04-07-2007, 07:46
That was an :eek: of fear, not excitement, Pete. ;)

It's easy to fear that we won't get the outcome that would be best for the country, but sometimes you just gotta have faith. :p I'm hoping everything works out well, no matter who we get as a candidate. :)
Arab Maghreb Union
04-07-2007, 07:51
It's easy to fear that we won't get the outcome that would be best for the country, but sometimes you just gotta have faith. :p I'm hoping everything works out well, no matter who we get as a candidate. :)

Well, I used to want Ron Paul, until he found out where some of his support comes from. So as of now, I support no candidate. The one that nauseates me the least, though, is Bill Richardson.
Thumbless Pete Crabbe
04-07-2007, 08:03
Well, I used to want Ron Paul, until he found out where some of his support comes from. So as of now, I support no candidate. The one that nauseates me the least, though, is Bill Richardson.

He seems honest enough, especially compared to the other democrats running. :p If Newt doesn't throw his hat in, I kinda like Rudy and Fred right now. But it's early yet! I'm looking forward to seeing some stuff blow up and having a few dogs tomorrow, and forgetting about everything for a few hours. :)
Free Haven Islands2
04-07-2007, 10:08
Well, I know that it is not quite yet the Fourth of July in the States, but since it is the Fourth of July here in the land of flightless birds; I might as well wish all the American posters here on NSG a Happy Independence Day and I also would like to offer a toast

To Treason! (after all, that is what the signers of the Declaration of Indepedence were doing - had they lost, they would have been hanged, drawn and quartered)

Treason doth never prosper. What be the reason? If treason prosper, none dare call it treason. Ovid

Happy Independence Day, America. May the lamp of virtue and liberty shine more brightly this century than any other.

Ben Franklin had sterling qualities, and few flaws. Two that come to mind are women with french accents, and an odd desire to alternately set clocks back and forth twice a year. :p

***Will go to the independence day parade, then the veterans' commemoration ceremony, then a bbq at the park, watch the municipal fireworks and light some of our own***
New Granada
04-07-2007, 10:19
Treason doth never prosper. What be the reason? If treason prosper, none dare call it treason. Ovid

Happy Independence Day, America. May the lamp of virtue and liberty shine more brightly this century than any other.

Ben Franklin had sterling qualities, and few flaws. Two that come to mind are women with french accents, and an odd desire to alternately set clocks back and forth twice a year. :p

***Will go to the independence day parade, then the veterans' commemoration ceremony, then a bbq at the park, watch the municipal fireworks and light some of our own***


Will be hard to top the 20th in that regard...

First we defeated "a monstrous tyranny never surpassed in the long and lamentable catalog of human crime," the German Nazis, and then what either exceeded it or came in as close second - the heinous and vicious cancer of Communism.

Compared to these, islamic terrorism is a trifle.

The real challenge would be to free the innumerable millions living under the foul black hand of demented Islamism, but that probably won't happen on our account.
Gurguvungunit
04-07-2007, 10:30
I totally came here expecting to see a bunch of idiotic trolls as usually come out for these sorts of threads. Seems the letters USA, in that order, attract them.

Honestly, though, NSG surprised me. Good on you all. Happy fourth and such.
Zarakon
04-07-2007, 21:18
So far, I've celebrated the cultural diversity of America by eating chinese food, and later I'll celebrate my freedom from the imperialist monarchy of 18th century Britain by grilling an animal carcass.
Ifreann
04-07-2007, 21:20
I'm gonna get some chocolate and crisps :)
Zarakon
04-07-2007, 21:26
I totally came here expecting to see a bunch of idiotic trolls as usually come out for these sorts of threads. Seems the letters USA, in that order, attract them.

Yeah, that's what I was expecting too.
Katganistan
04-07-2007, 21:29
He was also our first postmaster.

LOL true, I have had postcards cancelled at Franklin Square.

Seriously, anyone within a 2hr drive of Philly, it's an awesome day trip and there's a lot to see in the historic district -- oddly enough, Franklin Square is my favorite place after Independence Hall.

I must get back -- I've not seen the Liberty Bell since they were going to move it to a new building....

as for dinner: I had Amish potato salad, Italian sweet sausage, bratwurst, steak, pasta salad, potato chips and french onion dip, bing cherries, steak, cupcake and ice cream pie, washed down with lemonade.

Later, some watermelon.
Johnny B Goode
04-07-2007, 21:29
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/Katganistan/lenzini-pizza.jpg

You New Yorkers know how to eat pizza. (Drools)
New Malachite Square
04-07-2007, 21:33
Ben Franklin had sterling qualities, and few flaws. Two that come to mind are women with french accents, and an odd desire to alternately set clocks back and forth twice a year. :p

*adds Benjamin Franklin to vendetta list*
Katganistan
04-07-2007, 21:33
This'n even knows how to make it (but at home it's a pain in the arse).

If I'm making for me and others, I do sausage, mozzarella, pepperoni, onions, green peppers, mushrooms and black olives.

If I'm PMS-y and want the whole thing for myself -- banana peppers and black olives. ;)
IL Ruffino
04-07-2007, 21:39
This'n even knows how to make it (but at home it's a pain in the arse).

If I'm making for me and others, I do sausage, mozzarella, pepperoni, onions, green peppers, mushrooms and black olives.

If I'm PMS-y and want the whole thing for myself -- banana peppers and black olives. ;)

Garbage pizza?
Andaluciae
04-07-2007, 21:45
Happy Independence Day yins! Hope it goes good for all of you out there, and that none of you lose any fingers on grills, fireworks or varied sharp, pointy objects.
Katganistan
04-07-2007, 21:48
Garbage pizza?

Yum yum!
IL Ruffino
04-07-2007, 21:57
Yum yum!

I demand you make me one right now!
Katganistan
04-07-2007, 21:59
I demand you make me one right now!

I would, Ruffy, but I'm 'round Bawlmore right now.
It'd be cold before I could get it to you.
IL Ruffino
04-07-2007, 22:00
I would, Ruffy, but I'm 'round Bawlmore right now.
It'd be cold before I could get it to you.

Guess you'll just have to make me one some other time..
Ghost Tigers Rise
04-07-2007, 22:15
That ain't American, it's GERMAN!

It's people. You've got to tell them!

FRANKFURTERS IS PEOPLE!!!
Zarakon
04-07-2007, 22:15
It's people. You've got to tell them!

FRANKFURTERS IS PEOPLE!!!

Guy from Soylent Green: *Drops frankfurter* "Fuck this, I'm just going to starve."
Jarlin
04-07-2007, 22:21
Bon appetit, Amerique!
Ghost Tigers Rise
04-07-2007, 22:22
Guy from Soylent Green: *Drops frankfurter* "Fuck this, I'm just going to starve."

Me: Starvation is people!!

Robert Thorn (guy from Soylent Green): ...that doesn't even make sense! *head explodes*
Allemonde
06-07-2007, 01:33
Looks like piss.


Must be PBR(Pabst Blue Ribbon) which isn't too bad. Old Milwalkee & Natural Ice are piss beers.

I had a cool Un-4th of July holiday. Me and a bunch of friends from the RCP had a party with the usual stuff: hot dogs, hamburgers, cole slaw, potato salad and a intresting Iranian dish which was eggplant tomatoes and eggs. Tasted pretty good.
[NS]ICCD-Intracircumcordei
06-07-2007, 01:44
Just some stupid comments.

Ha Canada has it's independance day a whole 3 days earlier than you you retards. (not meant to be offensive)

You know it was the british that invented cheese corn and hotdogs and pizza.
I wouldn't be suprised if it was King George the Mad himself that made it. You know they canned the king after that war right... and put him in a tower or something... Funny George Washington, King George.. could could they have been the same man?
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FLAMEBATE:

U blody rablerusers. yuh jarst caldn't just own the man u had to beatem.

atlest weh still awhm ur bankaing sestem.

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I still find it funny your forefathers fought your forefathers for freedom from your ancestory.

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It's all good though a holiday is a holiday is a holiday even if it was yesterday.

It's sort of funny how america turned out, and you got to think what they would think about it now.
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Not meant to be offensive. So funny now that such inequality exists even at the borderes when it seems equality only exists in strenght of arms one perhaps on the earth the other under.

It's all the law anyway. It is just who is making it. Arms or Concensus, were you that different?

By George.
Brachiosaurus
06-07-2007, 01:47
I like the way the Mexicans in California claim they own the entire North American continent. Cause, they claim, the Aztecs owned everything. LOL
[NS]ICCD-Intracircumcordei
06-07-2007, 01:51
Good things Jurasic park didn't really happen we'd have to pay the Dino's large.


(technically they did until the spanish beat them up and had sex with them) that's a mexican.

but they had it cause they killed people they didn't like, people just don't kill for reasons like appeasing the gods to stem off the end of reality like they use to. Now they do it for oil and political presence.

bear in mind it may equate the same thing... but thats not the point
Brachiosaurus
06-07-2007, 02:17
ICCD-Intracircumcordei;12849169']Good things Jurasic park didn't really happen we'd have to pay the Dino's large.


(technically they did until the spanish beat them up and had sex with them) that's a mexican.

but they had it cause they killed people they didn't like, people just don't kill for reasons like appeasing the gods to stem off the end of reality like they use to. Now they do it for oil and political presence.

bear in mind it may equate the same thing... but thats not the point

What???

The only thing the Aztecs ever owned was central Mexico and the northern part of central America. They didn't even own Baja, nor did they even own a peice of Sonora state. What is now the southwest US and what is now northern Mexico, was not even part of the Aztec Empire.

I know some North American Indians who dispute that the Aztecs owned their people's land before the whites showed up.
Brachiosaurus
06-07-2007, 02:25
http://library.thinkquest.org/C005121/data/spain2_files/image002.gif

The northernmost point of the Aztec Empire was the Rio Nuedo River on the east coast.

Shown here on this big map of Mexico for comparison: (to find the Rio Nuedo river, look for the coastal city of Ciudad Madero which is on the Mexican east coast.

http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/americas/mexico_rel97.jpg

Looks like a huge chunk of Mexico itself that was never part of the Aztec Empire.

The image in this link has a box which shows just how small the AE really was:
http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/aztecs/aztecs20.gif
[NS]ICCD-Intracircumcordei
06-07-2007, 18:03
What???

The only thing the Aztecs ever owned was central Mexico and the northern part of central America. They didn't even own Baja, nor did they even own a peice of Sonora state. What is now the southwest US and what is now northern Mexico, was not even part of the Aztec Empire.

I know some North American Indians who dispute that the Aztecs owned their people's land before the whites showed up.


It was largely the same cultures inca's aztec zutecs abababatecs mushmush cree barefoot canibals etc. spanish had sex with people all throughout the americas,

Well no one owns regardless it is just rule of force not ancestory war prooves that right by right of arms...........?

is it anything more otherwise just some foolish game, may the most selfish person own.. you can gloss it up all you want but ownership reduces to being secure in the land. (of course all in realization of god know that we are the keepers of the planet, not the owners. likewise the planet is our keeper and decides whether we live or die not the otherway around, we don't live without it, it does without us. (until space travel)

its a dull argument anyway.