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Yes, you read that right! :eek:


When the EU opened its own channel on YouTube, no-one could have predicted it would get upwards of 20,000 hits a day.

[...] Titled Film Lovers Will Love This!, [a clip] shows men and women having sex in different ways and places, and ends with the words, "Let's come together".

[...] European Commission spokesman Martin Selmayr said there had been a flood of complaints from Poland about an intimate scene between two men - but refused to accept there was anything controversial about the film.

Fuming at what he called "quasi-religious bashing of the very important cultural diversity we have in the European Union", he said the lovemaking clips were excerpts from award-winning films, and that the commission was proud of the EU's rich cinematic heritage.

[...] At the launch of the channel on Friday, Commission Vice-President Margot Wallstrom said: "It is very important for the Commission to use all the means at its disposal when it comes to communicating with European citizens."

None of the e-mailers to the EUtube site has objected about sexual content.

The main complaint has been that few of the films are yet available in languages other than English, but the orgasmic cries of Film Lovers Will Love This! need no translation.


(Article (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6263430.stm))

Well, thank you for giving me a good laugh in the morning, EU! :D

We're Europeans. While perfectly capable of fighting - as witnessed in the last 2500 years (at least) of our history - we'd rather fuck than fight!

Yes, John Wayne firing a gun has less appeal on a European guy or girl than - let's say - a love scene between Cary Grant and Audrey Hepburn. ;)

We're Europeans. While perfectly capable of fighting - as witnessed in the last 2500 years (at least) of our history - we'd rather fuck than fight!

Yes, John Wayne firing a gun has less appeal on a European guy or girl than - let's say - a love scene between Cary Grant and Audrey Hepburn. ;)

I see an element of humour in this initiative, and I think it is wonderful that the official EU embraces that.

Concerning Poland, I'm getting increasingly annoyed at that country. First they block a treaty, then they whine about political porn :rolleyes:

then they whine about political porn

Now there's a phrase I never thought I'd hear. :p

Now there's a phrase I never thought I'd hear. :p

But nevertheless, is it not what this thread is about? Hooray for linguistic renewal!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=koRlFnBlDH0

This is what the fuss is about for some retards (now, why are Polish politicians again figuring in that group)? It's tamer than tame. "Controversial"? Nonsense.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=koRlFnBlDH0

This is what the fuss is about for some retards (now, why are Polish politicians again figuring in that group)? It's tamer than tame. "Controversial"? Nonsense.
Apparently the Polish are really, really Catholic.

Apparently the Polish are really, really Catholic.

Just politician nutters pandering to the ultra-conservative electorate...

I feel sorry for progressive, open-minded, intelligent Poles. So many people in their government giving their country a bad name.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=koRlFnBlDH0

This is what the fuss is about for some retards (now, why are Polish politicians again figuring in that group)? It's tamer than tame. "Controversial"? Nonsense.

And the other movies:
http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/media/overview/clips/index_en.htm

Just politician nutters pandering to the ultra-conservative electorate...

I feel sorry for progressive, open-minded, intelligent Poles. So many people in their government giving their country a bad name.

Hmm, I can think of another country that's a lot like that.

Hmm, I can think of another country that's a lot like that.

Not 'nearly all' countries?

Poor politicians - most unloved, probably why they're caught out with prostitutes so often.

Not 'nearly all' countries?

Poor politicians - most unloved, probably why they're caught out with prostitutes so often.

:p

Just politician nutters pandering to the ultra-conservative electorate...
I feel sorry for [certain :)] Poles. So many people in their government giving their country a bad name.
Thank you!
I loved the video. :cool:
I hope the people who are whining about it stop being so fucking obsessed. I mean, human beings do that stuff all the time. One would think that the main complaint should be about the scenes being too short and the montage jerky.
Oh, and Godfrey Bloom and Chris Heaton-Harris are wrong. :D

well three cheers for the e.u. i say. they've got better sense then america trying to attract supporters by killing them!

=^^=
.../\...

Sex sells. Everyone knows this.

I look forward to the next erections, sorry elections.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=koRlFnBlDH0

This is what the fuss is about for some retards (now, why are Polish politicians again figuring in that group)? It's tamer than tame. "Controversial"? Nonsense.

Because our politicians are complete idiots.

This is so wrong... not the content, but who it's coming from... it's like your grandma asking you to pop down to the shops to buy here some lubricant.

Well... political porn... that's... odd... i for one would be rather freaked out if my country (along with other countries) started putting "political porn" on Youtube...

but then again what do i know, i'm just a puritannical American :p

This is so wrong... not the content, but who it's coming from... it's like your grandma asking you to pop down to the shops to buy here some lubricant.

Can't be worse than having your mum ask you to look for gay porn online *shudder*

Worst. Day. Ever

Bah, this is awesome.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=koRlFnBlDH0

This is what the fuss is about for some retards (now, why are Polish politicians again figuring in that group)? It's tamer than tame. "Controversial"? Nonsense.

Not only had same sex activity, but had a large woman (in a very brief shot) as well. Sad thing is that it was the latter that surprised me more.

This is not polical porn! The spot is made of scenes from various European movies and I for one think it shows that the Europe is promoting art and is against censorship and inequality and the phrase "Lets come together" is simply brilliant! :D

http://youtube.com/watch?v=koRlFnBlDH0

This is what the fuss is about for some retards (now, why are Polish politicians again figuring in that group)? It's tamer than tame. "Controversial"? Nonsense.



PORN?? LMFAO

Most of this comes straight from the wonderful film "Amelie," from one of the bits where Amelie is day dreaming about the number of people who are right at that second having an orgasm. No doubt it would not play very well in the bible belt, but most of us, happily, have evolved further than that.

its good when the conservatives aren't the target audience for a change :)

Well, thank you for giving me a good laugh in the morning, EU! :D

Lolz.

Europe is great for sex and porn.

Can't be worse than having your mum ask you to look for gay porn online *shudder*

Worst. Day. Ever

What about if she walks in while your masturbating to gay porn and doesn't bother to look away ?

Most of this comes straight from the wonderful film "Amelie," from one of the bits where Amelie is day dreaming about the number of people who are right at that second having an orgasm.
Right. And also from the restroom "sex scene" when you see the "Toilettes" signs, the bottle, the egg and the straws.

Not only had same sex activity, but had a large woman (in a very brief shot) as well. Sad thing is that it was the latter that surprised me more.
From Amélie too. In fact, more than half of the video comes from that superb film.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=koRlFnBlDH0

This is what the fuss is about for some retards (now, why are Polish politicians again figuring in that group)? It's tamer than tame. "Controversial"? Nonsense.

TOILETTES!

Seriously, I don't see the problem there at all. Bloody idiots.

What about if she walks in while your masturbating to gay porn and doesn't bother to look away ?

:eek: Thats got to be good for a few years of counselling

Props to Poland.

Props to Poland.

With supporters like New Mitanni, who needs detractors?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=koRlFnBlDH0

This is what the fuss is about for some retards (now, why are Polish politicians again figuring in that group)? It's tamer than tame. "Controversial"? Nonsense.
... Why do they break up scenes of love making with shots of frying eggs? o_O

But, yeah. There's nothing offensive about that. Most novels are more graphic, frankly.

... Why do they break up scenes of love making with shots of frying eggs? o_O

But, yeah. There's nothing offensive about that. Most novels are more graphic, frankly.

If I remember correctly, the frying eggs were from either Delicatessen, or Le Destin Fabuleux de Amelie Poulin, both of which are films by Jean-Paul Jeunet. In both films, he uses the effect of filming inanimate objects that are subsequently set in rocking motion by the fury and passion of the lovemaking happening nearby. His only Hollywood movie that I know of is Aliens 4: Resurrection, which I thought was awesome.

Jeunet's films are definitely worth watching.

a love scene between Cary Grant and Audrey Hepburn. ;)

Aren't they like a hundred and two?

If I remember correctly, the frying eggs were from either Delicatessen, or Le Destin Fabuleux de Amelie Poulin, both of which are films by Jean-Paul Jeunet. In both films, he uses the effect of filming inanimate objects that are subsequently set in rocking motion by the fury and passion of the lovemaking happening nearby. His only Hollywood movie that I know of is Aliens 4: Resurrection, which I thought was awesome.

Jeunet's films are definitely worth watching.
Ah, I see. That explains a lot ;).

Jeunet, you say. I will keep an eye out.

Aren't they like a hundred and two?

They might be... If they weren't dead!

Oh god... Political porn to gay porn with Mom to necrophilia! What next? :eek:

Anything which pisses Poland off has to be good. :)

Anything which pisses Poland off has to be good. :)

One more reason to have sex:
"To piss off Poland"

http://youtube.com/watch?v=koRlFnBlDH0

This is what the fuss is about for some retards (now, why are Polish politicians again figuring in that group)? It's tamer than tame. "Controversial"? Nonsense.

eutube WTH

Props to Poland.

For being a bunch of puritan whiners? I guess that figures because you too, are a puritan whiner. Luckily, most people in the civilized world have moved beyond your 2nd grade "ew, cooties!" attitude towards sex.

For being a bunch of puritan whiners? I guess that figures because you too, are a puritan whiner. Luckily, most people in the civilized world have moved beyond your 2nd grade "ew, cooties!" attitude towards sex.

Thanks to the whole cooties protection system! Everything from the Cooties Shot to the Cooties-b-Gone cream!

Can I interest you in cootie insurance?

I got one with my cootie drug plan. :)

Thanks to the whole cooties protection system! Everything from the Cooties Shot to the Cooties-b-Gone cream!

Can I interest you in cootie insurance?

...The Polacks only complained about the homosexuals? Dude, that entire clip is outright wrong.

...The Polacks only complained about the homosexuals? Dude, that entire clip is outright wrong.

Why ? It promotes European cinema by showing clips from European films.

Why ? It promotes European cinema by showing clips from European films.

It's pornography. You can't tell me that the entirety of European cinema is pornographic, can you?

It's pornography.
I am sorry - I must have missed the shots of penises and vaginas. Can you point them out to me ?

You can't tell me that the entirety of European cinema is pornographic, can you?

Of course not. But denying quite a few of the best ones contain scenes like these is silly.

I am sorry - I must have missed the shots of penises and vaginas. Can you point them out to me ?

Not every pornographic film has shots of penises and vaginas. Hell, not even every pornographic film has shots of either or.

Of course not. But denying quite a few of the best ones contain scenes like these is silly.

To be honest, I'm not a fan of European cinema in general.

With supporters like New Mitanni, who needs detractors?
De farmers. On de odder hand, de look of New Mitanni pulling de plough... motivated wiff de pointy stick... :p

To be honest, I'm not a fan of European cinema in general.

Of course. You no doubt prefer the type of American cinema that carefully avoids any mention of sex but gladly shows the splattering of brains resulting from firing intruiging guns from multiple angles ?

Anything which pisses Poland off has to be good. :)
Narowmindedness, ignorance and supplementing the lacking knowledge with stereotypes are good now? Because they piss me off and I am Poland just as much as the bigots complaining about this video. If not more, because the future is mine.
Oh, here's your smiley: :)

Not every pornographic film has shots of penises and vaginas. Hell, not even every pornographic film has shots of either or.

Unless it centers in on any part(s) censored by our RIAA/FCC/etc. overseers, then it isn't. Making out and having sex (without any normally-censored parts shown) isn't a porno.

Of course. You no doubt prefer the type of American cinema that carefully avoids any mention of sex but gladly shows the splattering of brains resulting from firing intruiging guns from multiple angles ?

Damn right.

Damn right.

Personally, I prefer the inclusion of both as the director wishes.

Personally, I prefer the inclusion of both as the director wishes.

Sex doesn't add anything to a film. It merely makes the film substantially more uncomfortable to watch with one's family and friends.

That said, it severely reduces the number of actors and actresses who can be in the film in the leading roles. Obviously, a married actor or actress isn't going to be doing such a film. No?

Sex doesn't add anything to a film. It merely makes the film substantially more uncomfortable to watch with one's family and friends.

If ones family and friends are as prudish as eachother. Sex can add to a film. It can show the passion between a couple for one

That said, it severely reduces the number of actors and actresses who can be in the film in the leading roles. Obviously, a married actor or actress isn't going to be doing such a film. No?

Why shouldn't they be in the film? It's a simulation of sex and nothing more. If their partner has a problem with that fair enough but its not as if it's adultery

Sex doesn't add anything to a film. It merely makes the film substantially more uncomfortable to watch with one's family and friends.

That said, it severely reduces the number of actors and actresses who can be in the film in the leading roles. Obviously, a married actor or actress isn't going to be doing such a film. No?

1) Someone's a prude. Sexual scenes can and do add to movies...

2) a) I think they still do and they certainly still can
b) Even if not, I don't care because it's the director's movie so w/e.

Damn right.

Are you honestly trying to say that sex is disgusting, but violence isn't?

Damn right.

Same here. Pity that makes us pretty repulsive humans - preferring killing and violence over love and pleasure.

Same here. Pity that makes us pretty repulsive humans - preferring killing and violence over love and pleasure.

But the killing and the violence adds to the movie! Lust and pleasure doesn't. Killing and violence is never uncomfortable to watch. That lust and pleasure is.

But the killing and the violence adds to the movie! Lust and pleasure doesn't. Killing and violence is never uncomfortable to watch. That lust and pleasure is.

It's a bit subjective to say that lust and pleasure is uncomfortable to watch don't you think?

Are you honestly trying to say that sex is disgusting, but violence isn't?

You have to see it through Gens' eyes. Would you rather watch dirty, steamy, but romantic gay sex that one can't talk about on Jolt, or disgusting, vile, gratuitous violence as some poor guy has all sorts of graphic stuff happen to him that one can't talk about on Jolt?

That was great. I'm more pro-EU than ever.

But the killing and the violence adds to the movie! Lust and pleasure doesn't. Killing and violence is never uncomfortable to watch. That lust and pleasure is.
Errm do you have 'issues' or something?

Sex isn't just about lust, you know. It's about an expression of feelings. What pisses me off is than in most American films, it's basically a pornographic element to them, and is lumped in with the explosions and machine guns and such, whereas in most European films, sex is just sex. It's there. It's a part of a relationship. That's it.

But the killing and the violence adds to the movie! Lust and pleasure doesn't. Killing and violence is never uncomfortable to watch. That lust and pleasure is.

*Makes raid on Gens's house, takes away hampsters.*

t3h eb1l Yurapeens are kurruptin our yooth!!11!!!1!111!!!!!1!!!1!!!!1!!!!11oneelevenoneoneeleven11




:p

Errm do you have 'issues' or something?

Sex isn't just about lust, you know. It's about an expression of feelings. What pisses me off is than in most American films, it's basically a pornographic element to them, and is lumped in with the explosions and machine guns and such, whereas in most European films, sex is just sex. It's there. It's a part of a relationship. That's it.

But here's the point: I don't give a damn about relationships. Not of fictional characters. Not about yours. Not about anyone's but my own, which I have yet to have.

I don't watch a movie to see people all lovey dovey. I am an AMERICAN. I watch a movie to see people opening up cans of whoop ass on each other. I want to see people kickin ass. Y'know what I am saying?

...Y'know what I am saying?
That Chuck Norris movies are about the best you know..?

That Chuck Norris movies are about the best you know..?

Chuck Norris is the man, man. Church Norris has a night light when he goes to bed, y'know? Not because he's afraid of the dark. Because the dark's afraid of him.

But here's the point: I don't give a damn about relationships. Not of fictional characters. Not about yours. Not about anyone's but my own, which I have yet to have.

I don't watch a movie to see people all lovey dovey. I am an AMERICAN. I watch a movie to see people opening up cans of whoop ass on each other. I want to see people kickin ass. Y'know what I am saying?

Pity that your taste in movies isn't the yardstick of quality. Pity for you that is. Some of us like to have actual storylines in the films we watch.

Some of us like to have actual storylines in the films we watch.

Say what???

Say what???

It's a strange concept, I know. It's that stuff where people are talking in between the explosions.

Pity that your taste in movies isn't the yardstick of quality. Pity for you that is. Some of us like to have actual storylines in the films we watch.

I take it you aren't a fan of Pirates of the Carribean?

Chuck Norris is the man, man. Church Norris has a night light when he goes to bed, y'know? Not because he's afraid of the dark. Because the dark's afraid of him.

Fuck Chuck Norris.

Fuck Chuck Norris.

I dare you to tell Churck Norris that to his face. ;)

I give the EU a thumbs-up!

Here, across the pond, conservative-run America and quasi-conservative-run Canada wouldn't dare think about such a thing. Hell, in a world where some states have banned vibrators, it's good to be reminded that erotic art is art nonetheless.

Fuck Chuck Norris.
FINALLY! Somebody who's sick of the Chuck Norris hype!

And would you look at that-- a teenage guy who's NOT obsessed with Chuck Norris! :fluffle::fluffle::fluffle:
I dare you to tell Churck Norris that to his face. ;)

:rolleyes:

I take it you aren't a fan of Pirates of the Carribean?

I liked the first one. The second was good, but a bit long. Haven't seen the third.

FINALLY! Somebody who's sick of the Chuck Norris hype!

And would you look at that-- a teenage guy who's NOT obsessed with Chuck Norris! :fluffle::fluffle::fluffle:

Bruce Lee could kick his ass. :fluffle::fluffle::fluffle::fluffle:

I dare you to tell Churck Norris that to his face. ;)

You realize most of those muscles are rubber prostethics, don't ya? ;)

I liked the first one. The second was good, but a bit long. Haven't seen the third.

Anyway, that's personally what I like in a movie. While there is -some- romance to it, it really is kept to a minimum. What they focus on is the ass kicking.

Bruce Lee did kick his ass.

That's better

That's better

That's right, Way/Return of the Dragon. I tell that to anybody who spouts off about Chuck Norris but nobody believes me. :(

Yay, EU! (Except Poland.)

But here's the point: I don't give a damn about relationships. Not of fictional characters. Not about yours. Not about anyone's but my own, which I have yet to have.That explains everything. ;)

FINALLY! Somebody who's sick of the Chuck Norris hype!

I think about 65% of people are sick of Chuch Norris… but the 5% who aren't are louder.

The other 30% percent say: "Who's Chuck Norris?"

That said, it severely reduces the number of actors and actresses who can be in the film in the leading roles. Obviously, a married actor or actress isn't going to be doing such a film. No?You are so wrong here.

The vast majority of sex in films is simulated. Married actors and actresses do not have a problem with acting out sex in a film. The same way they don't mind kissing someone in a film, or acting out dying or killing someone in a film. That's the thing about films - they tend to be fictional.

I'm not so sure you should be allowed to go see films. I can just imagine you running out of the cinema screaming after seeing 'L'arrivée d'un train en gare de La Ciotat (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dgLEDdFddk)'.

I'm not so sure you should be allowed to go see films. I can just imagine you running out of the cinema screaming after seeing 'L'arrivée d'un train en gare de La Ciotat (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dgLEDdFddk)'.

Lolz.

But here's the point: I don't give a damn about relationships. Not of fictional characters. Not about yours. Not about anyone's but my own, which I have yet to have.

I don't watch a movie to see people all lovey dovey. I am an AMERICAN. I watch a movie to see people opening up cans of whoop ass on each other. I want to see people kickin ass. Y'know what I am saying?

Of course you realize you're embarrassing the entire country right now? :rolleyes:

:fluffle: > :mp5:

You are so wrong here.

The vast majority of sex in films is simulated. Married actors and actresses do not have a problem with acting out sex in a film. The same way they don't mind kissing someone in a film, or acting out dying or killing someone in a film. That's the thing about films - they tend to be fictional.

Yet there are a whole lot that aren't.

I'm not so sure you should be allowed to go see films. I can just imagine you running out of the cinema screaming after seeing 'L'arrivée d'un train en gare de La Ciotat (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dgLEDdFddk)'.

:headbang:

Yet there are a whole lot that aren't.



:headbang:

Banging your head won't remove the memory, Gens.

But fear not, because Canadian scientists are researching how to do just that. http://www.yahoo.com/s/618980


/digression


More to the point...

Sex on the set, just like everything else up there, is ACTING. That's it. Just an act.

Of course you realize you're embarrassing the entire country right now? :rolleyes:


He's putting on an act. Portraying himself as a stereotype. Don't fall for it.

Of course you realize you're embarrassing the entire country right now? :rolleyes:

:fluffle: > :mp5:

Quoted for truth.

Yet there are a whole lot that aren't.Not really, no. Unsimulated sex is very rare in a film. There is a lot unsimulated sex in pornography. But this isn't pornography. And claiming that married actors and actresses are discrimated against in pornography is like claiming a white woman is discriminated against because she can't play the part of Martin Luther King in a film.

:headbang:Why this? What does this reponse even mean? Does it mean you ran away from your computer screaming after you saw that youtube video and smacked your head into a wall?