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I don't mean this as a thread to discuss the advisability of sponsoring a coup d'état in The United States per se, but rather to assess its price tag. I believe that given the public outrage at the current regime and the barely suppressed, simmering hatred against the authoritarianism which has seized The United States in its iron grip, $10 billion dollars should suffice to topple the maleficent government. What would you peg the price of such an act at? Poll coming.

About how much does an election cost?

You'll be greeted as liberators?

You'll be greeted as liberators?

Oh, the irony.

As to answer the question, it depends on how much a year and four months is to you. Well, I suppose seven, technically.

The cost is your intelligence... which is much more than I expected to pay.

You'll be greeted as liberators?

Are you kidding? Take the Iraqi reaction and make it ten times worse, then make that ten times worse, and you have the reaction to the American government being overthrown. We're so fucking jingiostic we'd be lynching the "liberators" no matter why they did it.

As for me, I set the price tag at about $37.9 billion, so I voted $25-50.

Given that Bush keeps pushing us harder and harder until even those of us who were anti-impeachment find ourselves calling for his impeachment, if you pay the right lobbyists, it could be less than a billion. :p

This is rather pointless

Let the system work
Let the election occur
The tide is changing
And along with it ~ Fate

A dire chapter is nearly completed
It is time to begin a new chapter
And in thirty yeasrs hope we not revisit the present
Like we did in recreating the perils of Vietnam

Voted the same way I voted in the poll on Ahmadinejad: It's impossible for any amount of money.

Vandal, your signature threatens me.

Vandal, your signature threatens me.

Huh? It wasn't my own anymore, some mod ... modified for me and I'm keeping it for souvenir,... or until I'm bored with it.

I don't mean this as a thread to discuss the advisability of sponsoring a coup d'état in The United States per se, but rather to assess its price tag. I believe that given the public outrage at the current regime and the barely suppressed, simmering hatred against the authoritarianism which has seized The United States in its iron grip, $10 billion dollars should suffice to topple the maleficent government. What would you peg the price of such an act at? Poll coming.

The next presidential election is in November 2008.

I never knew you could get sponsorship for a coup - do all the freedom fighters have to have a corporate logo on their uniform? "This revolution was brought to you by Nike".

Well, how much do you estimate it would cost to buy one obsolete USSR nuclear missile on the black market, plus the services of some obsolete USSR missle operators to point it at the White House and fire it once you're sure Bushiewushie and his ragged band are inside? :p

Or wait, no, that's a waste of a good building... :D

Well, how much do you estimate it would cost to buy one obsolete USSR nuclear missile on the black market, plus the services of some obsolete USSR missle operators to point it at the White House and fire it once you're sure Bushiewushie and his ragged band are inside? :p

Or wait, no, that's a waste of a good building... :D

Actually, you'd have to pay off Putin, since Russia's missile stock are linked to the typical nuclear football if I'm not mistaken.

What would you peg the price of such an act at? Poll coming.

The taint has already spread too far. Merely removing the current instigator and focal points would not be enough - you would need to find a way to split the tainted from untainted and then destroy the taint in a maelstrom. It will likely cost you Kaeleers heart and...

Oops. Too much Anne Bishop ;)

Actually, you'd have to pay off Putin, ...

Pay off that symbol of integrity, honesty and democracy?
Oops, now you raised the cost to around one googolplexillion... :p

all depends on how much Cheney needs really:p

I originally read the title of this thread as 'Outing' Bush...

I originally read the title of this thread as 'Outing' Bush...

Now that would be delicious irony. :D

Three cents and a lemon-flavored lollipop.

I believe that given the public outrage at the current regime and the barely suppressed, simmering hatred against the authoritarianism which has seized The United States in its iron grip, $10 billion dollars should suffice to topple the maleficent government.

:rolleyes:

Please, put your hands in the air and back slowly away from the keyboard. Emergency medical assistance has been called and is on the way.

:rolleyes:

Please, put your hands in the air and back slowly away from the keyboard. Emergency medical assistance has been called and is on the way.
I know having the people from the mental institutions cart you away is a regular part of your life, but it really isn't a part of everyone's.

It will cost $500 billiion. Make me the treasurer and I will guarantee happiness with the outcome.

Are you kidding? Take the Iraqi reaction and make it ten times worse, then make that ten times worse, and you have the reaction to the American government being overthrown. We're so fucking jingiostic we'd be lynching the "liberators" no matter why they did it.

As for me, I set the price tag at about $37.9 billion, so I voted $25-50.

And of course we'd still fail to see the irony in it, continuing to chant how Iraq was a justified crusade to bring democracy to the people of the Middle East- while we're rigging IEDs to blow up the United Nations troops.

It would cost little.

After all, there are a number of whack jobs that hate the whole Bush administration and would love to take them out just to get their names in the history books; become the Lee Harvey Oswald of the 21st century.

The reason I say it won't cost as much is because there is an incredible amount of discontent in the general American public when it comes to their leadership, and any action taken against it, namely in the form of an assassination would not destabilize America. Socially, economically and politically, it's a stable nation and getting rid of Bush and his cronies would turn the bulk of power back over to Congress.

Coups can only work when people want change or their want to have their leaders dethroned. Discontent fueled by corruption and a plethora of other charges are what lower the cost of a coup ticket. You need popular support. Without it, a coup can't work and it would backfire.

Who exactly would volunteer to do the liberating of the Americans?

Who exactly would volunteer to do the liberating of the Americans?
The Mexicans. They can do the job Americans don't want while the Americans complain about how the Mexicans are taking their jobs and women. :)

The Mexicans. They can do the job Americans don't want while the Americans complain about how the Mexicans are taking their jobs and women. :)

This makes a lot of sense. Hmmm, maybe we'd finally get a imigration bill with the Mexicans guiding us. Im sure they could help us with a rought draft. :D

Anything would be preferable, so long as the end result is the same.

Well, how much do you estimate it would cost to buy one obsolete USSR nuclear missile on the black market, plus the services of some obsolete USSR missle operators to point it at the White House and fire it once you're sure Bushiewushie and his ragged band are inside? :p

Approximately one bottle of cognac, three loaves of bread, and a Cadillac.

Give or take.

Virtually impossible.

At this point in time, a coup d'etat in the US is impossible. First of all, democracy has given the federal government more accountability than most tinpot dictatorships, and gives it a built in revolution of elections. Secondly, federalism gives a very real degree of power to the states, even maintaining their own militias. Most could probably function as their own nations if need be. Lastly, no one is grossly dissatisfied with the government. I mean, they are, but not nearly to Louis XVI levels.

Impossible. I and many other Americans would do anything to prevent people from subverting our government in order to put in a puppet of their choosing. As much as we may not like our President, we will never tolerate a foreign power imposing their will on our country or its policies by targeting our leadership.

Impossible. I and many other Americans would do anything to prevent people from subverting our government in order to put in a puppet of their choosing. As much as we may not like our President, we will never tolerate a foreign power imposing their will on our country or its policies by targeting our leadership. Which is basicly the exact same stance that most of Iraq had before the war. They hated Saddam but they didn't think it was the US's place to step in and remove him...

You do of course see the irony in your message right?

Which is basicly the exact same stance that most of Iraq had before the war. They hated Saddam but they didn't think it was the US's place to step in and remove him...
I'm sure you have proof?

You do of course see the irony in your message right?

Except most Americans don't hate Bush. Many disagree with his policies, some more so then others, but not to the point where any sort of coup would be practical, or even advisable; Bush is gone in a year and several months, at no expense. And nothing brings people together like someone else to be 'Them' in an 'Us vs.' contest. Even democrats awhile back told foreign officials to back off criticizing the prez IIRC.

I'd thought the common consensus was that these types of threads were irritating, lame, uncreative and filled with suck?

I'm sure you have proof? Actually I do!
What sort of sources do you want? Memoirs? News Interviews? Audio? Video?

Except most Americans don't hate Bush. Many disagree with his policies, some more so then others, but not to the point where any sort of coup would be practical, or even advisable; Bush is gone in a year and several months, at no expense. NO EXPENSE?????
A year is enough time to find a way to try and start another war *Cough*Iran*Cough*, give a couple 100 Billion extra to his corporate cronies, and to further destroy the middle class. No expense my ass.
People want him gone ASAP.

How much would it cost to sponsor a successful coup d'état FOR the US?fixed.

Impossible. I and many other Americans would do anything to prevent people from subverting our government in order to put in a puppet of their choosing. As much as we may not like our President, we will never tolerate a foreign power imposing their will on our country or its policies by targeting our leadership.

But you would tolerate your own government doing it to other countries?

No need, give the Republicans enough rope and they'll hang themselves.
When Bush pardons Scotter Libby, it's another nail in his own coffin for Bush.

Actually I do!
What sort of sources do you want? Memoirs? News Interviews? Audio? Video?
Whatever you have that'll prove your point.

People want him gone ASAP.
A vocal minority like you want him gone ASAP. Most are willing to wait for the election, which dooms a coup before it can even begin planning.

Impossible. I and many other Americans would do anything to prevent people from subverting our government in order to put in a puppet of their choosing. As much as we may not like our President, we will never tolerate a foreign power imposing their will on our country or its policies by targeting our leadership.

No, just corporate power.

Come on, you don't seriously believe the people have any real say in electing their leaders do you? Democracy, especially in America, is a joke.

I know having the people from the mental institutions cart you away is a regular part of your life, but it really isn't a part of everyone's.

Why do these threads get won before I even get a chance to chime in?