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In light of recent events in London and Glasgow, I was wondering what the general opinion of NSG was, specifically the British part of our community.

This may have been done before, but not with a poll damnit. So that makes everything alright.

So, how concerned are you about recent spate of failed terrorism?

I'm sorry, I appear to not being reading your thread title right. Does it say "Opinion poll on recent humourous events in London and Glasgow", or does it say "Please flame me"?

Seriously, this thread is NOT going to last long.

I'm sorry, I appear to not being reading your thread title right. Does it say "Opinion poll on recent humourous events in London and Glasgow", or does it say "Please flame me"?

Seriously, this thread is NOT going to last long.Well, it's my opinion of it all, and I'm entitled to it. Let's just see if I'm entitled to post that opinion here.

Well, it's my opinion of it all, and I'm entitled to it. Let's just see if I'm entitled to post that opinion here.

Sorry? It is your opinion that carbombs are homourous? Then it is my opinion that you are a pratt.:eek:

I work in DC. The attacks in the UK follow a recent "graduation" of al-Qaeda terrorists in Pakistan, who were sent immediately overseas to conduct attacks against the US and UK.

Maybe they weren't very smart or well trained, but they were sent.

Apparently, some of the attackers in the UK were NOT UK residents, but recent arrivals.

So, I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop here in the US, especially here in DC.

If I lived in Peoria, I wouldn't be so concerned.

Well, it's my opinion of it all, and I'm entitled to it. Let's just see if I'm entitled to post that opinion here.

I'm pretty sure you're going to get reported for trolling or flamebaiting by someone in a few seconds here, so I'm going to guess that you probably aren't entitled to post that opinion here.

Sorry? It is your opinion that carbombs are homourous? Then it is my opinion that you are a pratt.:eek:

If the situation wasn't so serious, I would find a guy on fire fighting with the people to put him out and shouting "Allah!" kind of funny...

Well, I agree with Dunes actually.

Sadly, tID, you missed the "Brit - I enjoy giggling at peoples' paranoia" option :(

Islamic Terrorists in Britain: Still less deadly than Scottish house fires! (Edit: assuming those car bombs even were by islamic terrorists.)

Well, I agree with Dunes actually.

Sadly, tID, you missed the "Brit - I enjoy giggling at peoples' paranoia" option :(

Islamic Terrorists in Britain: Still less deadly than Scottish house fires! (Edit: assuming those car bombs even were by islamic terrorists.)

What is this, sooo car bombs are funny then?

Well, I agree with Dunes actually.

Sadly, tID, you missed the "Brit - I enjoy giggling at peoples' paranoia" option :(

Islamic Terrorists in Britain: Still less deadly than Scottish house fires! (Edit: assuming those car bombs even were by islamic terrorists.)

Ah, I see you're one of those people who believe that people who make car bombs and light themselves on fire shouting, 'Allah! Allah!" are Buddhists...

*yawn*

Some bams drive their jeep into a door and now suddenly I live in a city "under terrorist attack"?

Eejits.

Living in Glasgow, I can tell you that very few people are even mildly concerned here.

Worse things happen in Easterhouse (one of the poorer areas of Glasvegas) every day.

Sorry? It is your opinion that carbombs are homourous? Then it is my opinion that you are a pratt.:eek:Now, now, no need to resort to name calling... wait... you used to Ts. And that means, according to Dictionary.com, you're calling me a Canadian poet from first half of the 20th century.

Well, I agree with Dunes actually.

Sadly, tID, you missed the "Brit - I enjoy giggling at peoples' paranoia" option :(

Islamic Terrorists in Britain: Still less deadly than Scottish house fires! (Edit: assuming those car bombs even were by islamic terrorists.)That would have been a good poll option... unfortunately I didn't think of it. :(

So far the Brit's seem the less concerned than everyone else. heh.

I'm pretty sure you're going to get reported for trolling or flamebaiting by someone in a few seconds here, so I'm going to guess that you probably aren't entitled to post that opinion here.As of yet, nothing in Moderation. So here's hoping. Anyway, I wouldn't consider this trolling as it's a genuine opinion of mine.

Ah, I see you're one of those people who believe that people who make car bombs and light themselves on fire shouting, 'Allah! Allah!" are Buddhists...

Nope, not Buddhists. Plenty of people do stuff like this. Radical leftists (Black Panthers, for example), radical right wingers (Oklahoma City), Christians (Abortion clinic bombings), random crazy people, etc, etc.

Really, from what I've heard, there's no evidence other than the fact that /\/\0213/\/\2 are t3h ebil that islamic terrorists did this.

Nope, not Buddhists. Plenty of people do stuff like this. Radical leftists (Black Panthers, for example), radical right wingers (Oklahoma City), Christians (Abortion clinic bombings), random crazy people, etc, etc.

Really, from what I've heard, there's no evidence other than the fact that /\/\0213/\/\2 are t3h ebil that islamic terrorists did this.

Evidently you don't read the news.

There's plenty of evidence that these are Islamic terrorists.

Name me the last time that Christians or Buddhists attacked an airport.

What is this, sooo car bombs are funny then?Indeed. It's related the British sense of humour. We tend to laugh quite heartily in the face of misfortune or death... or just some guy who's managed to set himself on fire and is trying to open the boot of his car. I mean, since the loss of the Empire we just can't take anything seriously anymore. I think it's some sort of collective coping mechanism.

Evidently you don't read the news.

There's plenty of evidence that these are Islamic terrorists.

Name me the last time that Christians or Buddhists attacked an airport.

Link me one article from a semi-reliable news source (BBC, The Register, CNN, whatever.) saying Islamic terrorists did this.

Now, now, no need to resort to name calling... wait... you used to Ts. And that means, according to Dictionary.com, you're calling me a Canadian poet from first half of the 20th century.


Sorry that is also just my opinion. If you truly think carbombs and the like are humorous, then it truely is my opinion that you are a prat.(One T better for ya?)

Evidently you don't read the news.

There's plenty of evidence that these are Islamic terrorists.

Name me the last time that Christians or Buddhists attacked an airport.

so because it isn't A or B, it must be C?

There is a massive hole in that logic...

Indeed. It's related the British sense of humour. We tend to laugh quite heartily in the face of misfortune or death... or just some guy who's managed to set himself on fire and is trying to open the boot of his car. I mean, since the loss of the Empire we just can't take anything seriously anymore. I think it's some sort of collective coping mechanism.

Then you must come from a differant Britian to me? In the Britian I come from yes we can and do laugh at our own misfortune, I have never seen any of my fellow Brits laugh hartily at bombs though?

Seriously, it's funny. Car bombs foiled by a traffic warden, a drunk, and a bollard.
The incompetence is magnificent. And the humour is almost as good as what we saw in Glasgow. Some guy crashes into the airport, and out of nowhere a taxi driver pops up and gives him a smack. But probably the best bit of it all was someone on the phone on the radio claiming to be an eyewitness but blatantly making things up. Quality.

Link me one article from a semi-reliable news source (BBC, The Register, CNN, whatever.) saying Islamic terrorists did this.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6261076.stm

Dr Mohammed Asha, 26, who worked as a junior doctor at the Royal Shrewsbury Hospital and the Princess Royal Hospital in Telford, was arrested on the M6 in Cheshire on Saturday night along with a 27-year-old woman thought to be his wife.

And an Iraqi man, Bilal Abdulla, suspected of the attack on Glasgow Airport worked as a doctor in Paisley.

It is believed he was employed as a locum at the Royal Alexandra Hospital, just two miles from the airport building attacked on Saturday.

Suspect detained at Glasgow airport. Photo: Universal News and Sport.com
A man detained at Glasgow airport suffered severe burns

The other man detained at Glasgow airport had severe burns and remains in a critical condition, and under armed police guard, at the Royal Alexandra.

The fifth person, a 26-year-old man, was arrested in Liverpool on Sunday.

Warrants have been issued which allow police to further detain the three people arrested in England - who are being held at Paddington Green police station - until Saturday.

All the first five people held are believed to be of Middle Eastern nationalities.

Then you must come from a differant Britian to me? In the Britian I come from yes we can and do laugh at our own misfortune, I have never seen any of my fellow Brits laugh hartily at bombs though?
Really?

You must be with the wrong Brits.

Up here, we all had a good laugh yesterday; thinking about how pathetically feeble the flamy-car thing was. I mean, c'mon, two blokes managing to set themselves on fire then getting wedged in a door; that's just funny.

To further my answer to the poll, I don't particularly want to read about Paris Hilton but I fail to see the point of getting worried or upset by terrorists. I refuse to change the way I live my life or start wandering around in a state of fear just because a couple of wackos try to blow shit up.

I firmly believe that the only way to beat terrorism is to ignore it completely, the more column inches these guys get, the closer they are to winning.

Their intention isn't funny. The fact that they utterly, utterly failed to fulfill their goals is HILARIOUS.

They wanted to kill themselves and as many civilians as possible. They didn't kill anybody, and injured themselves more than they injured any civilians.

If what people have said about them going to training camps is true, they must be fucking terrible training camps. They didn't even use proper explosives! Just flammable fuels for god's sakes!

Terrible, TERRIBLE failures as terrorists.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/07/02/nterror1202.xml

Cars have now been banned from approaching airport terminals following Saturday's attack as unprecedented security measures are enforced to combat a suspected al-Qa'eda bombing campaign.

Not a "suspected Christian bombing campaign" or a "suspected IRA bombing campaign" or a "suspected chav bombing campaign".

Ahhh I see, yep it now, I see just why the world is going to shit. People really do think that random violence against their fellow man is funny!

Astounding! And all the while we'll be blaming those that are differant from us, those that may have a differant religoon, or culture, or language, or moral attitude. When really, we are just as bad as each other.

Remeber how we all laughed when the two towers went down, or the decades of laughter we got out of Northen Ireland and it's troubles. Ohhh hohohoh that Pol Pot, he was a card huh huh!?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/07/02/nterror1202.xml



Not a "suspected Christian bombing campaign" or a "suspected IRA bombing campaign" or a "suspected chav bombing campaign".

What hasn't been labeled an "al-qaeda style attack" or "al-qaeda-like attack" in the last few years? Seriously, they lable every nut who blows himself up as being al-qaeda.

The key word is "suspected". Innocent untill proven guilty and all that good stuff.

Ahhh I see, yep it now, I see just why the world is going to shit. People really do think that random violence against their fellow man is funny!

Astounding! And all the while we'll be blaming those that are differant from us, those that may have a differant religoon, or culture, or language, or moral attitude. When really, we are just as bad as each other.

Remeber how we all laughed when the two towers went down, or the decades of laughter we got out of Northen Ireland and it's troubles. Ohhh hohohoh that Pol Pot, he was a card huh huh!?

Yeah, violence is funny. But I prefer oppression. Northern Ireland was just too slapstick for me.

But that apartheid... man that was hilarious. Comic genius.

What hasn't been labeled an "al-qaeda style attack" or "al-qaeda-like attack" in the last few years? Seriously, they lable every nut who blows himself up as being al-qaeda.

The key word is "suspected". Innocent untill proven guilty and all that good stuff.
And then they quietly release them after no connection with Islamic terrorism is found.

Ahhh I see, yep it now, I see just why the world is going to shit. People really do think that random violence against their fellow man is funny!

Astounding! And all the while we'll be blaming those that are differant from us, those that may have a differant religoon, or culture, or language, or moral attitude. When really, we are just as bad as each other.

Remeber how we all laughed when the two towers went down, or the decades of laughter we got out of Northen Ireland and it's troubles. Ohhh hohohoh that Pol Pot, he was a card huh huh!?

That's the thing; there was no violence against their fellow man. It was more like that drunk guy on a Saturday night who trys to start a fight, misses the guy he's swinging at, and ends up on the floor. Just comical.

I work in DC. The attacks in the UK follow a recent "graduation" of al-Qaeda terrorists in Pakistan, who were sent immediately overseas to conduct attacks against the US and UK.

Grade inflation -- not just for American universities anymore!

Grade inflation -- not just for American universities anymore!

:p

So, I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop here in the US, especially here in DC.

If I lived in Peoria, I wouldn't be so concerned.


O don't worry. The odds are if something does happen, it will befall some unfortunate blameless innocent, not you.

I believe the perpetrators should be punished by having the image of a pristine, fully functioning airport tattooed on their chests, along with the words "YOU PHAIL".

That and jail time.

they seemed to be as useless as temperance leafet in the stocksman tent at the Lincs Show

Ahhh I see, yep it now, I see just why the world is going to shit. People really do think that random violence against their fellow man is funny!

Astounding! And all the while we'll be blaming those that are differant from us, those that may have a differant religoon, or culture, or language, or moral attitude. When really, we are just as bad as each other.

Remeber how we all laughed when the two towers went down, or the decades of laughter we got out of Northen Ireland and it's troubles. Ohhh hohohoh that Pol Pot, he was a card huh huh!?There are jokes about everything. One of the jokes I found on the interwebs about 9/11 goes as follows
Q: When does a pentagon have four sides?
A: When it intersects a plane.

Sorry that is also just my opinion. If you truly think carbombs and the like are humorous, then it truely is my opinion that you are a prat.(One T better for ya?)Yes. I'm playing quite the fool at the moment.

Name me the last time that Christians or Buddhists attacked an airport.

August 1st 2001, Belfast International.

Your point being?

O don't worry. The odds are if something does happen, it will befall some unfortunate blameless innocent, not you.

Well, if I do get the chance to see some guy in flames, lumbering out of an SUV at the front door of our building yelling, "Allah! Allah!" I'll get to shoot him in the balls and in the kneecaps before the police get there.

August 1st 2001, Belfast International.

Your point being?

My point being that 90% of terrorist acts nowadays are conducted by militant Islamists.

*hides under blankets*

Clearly, bombs will be exploding everywhere, none of us are safe. Be afraid. BE VERY AFRAID!!!

Oh and of course this just proves our glorious presidents point that "they" are after us so all his measures must be supported to the fullest.

LONG LIVE GUANTANAMO!!!

Orignally posted by Peeplonia
'Ahhh I see, yep it now, I see just why the world is going to shit. People really do think that random violence against their fellow man is funny!

Astounding! And all the while we'll be blaming those that are differant from us, those that may have a differant religoon, or culture, or language, or moral attitude. When really, we are just as bad as each other.

Remeber how we all laughed when the two towers went down, or the decades of laughter we got out of Northen Ireland and it's troubles. Ohhh hohohoh that Pol Pot, he was a card huh huh!?'

The thing is, though, those involved death. When it doesnt involve death is quite amusing. Do you fail to see the humour in these 'elite' terrorists, who try to strike terror into the hearts of innocents, by driving a burning Jeep Chereoke into an airport...Only to damage themselves more severly then anyone else? Its like sacrificing themselves. Silly sods.

Orignally posted by Peeplonia
'Ahhh I see, yep it now, I see just why the world is going to shit. People really do think that random violence against their fellow man is funny!

Astounding! And all the while we'll be blaming those that are differant from us, those that may have a differant religoon, or culture, or language, or moral attitude. When really, we are just as bad as each other.

Remeber how we all laughed when the two towers went down, or the decades of laughter we got out of Northen Ireland and it's troubles. Ohhh hohohoh that Pol Pot, he was a card huh huh!?'

The thing is, though, those involved death. When it doesnt involve death is quite amusing. Do you fail to see the humour in these 'elite' terrorists, who try to strike terror into the hearts of innocents, by driving a burning Jeep Chereoke into an airport...Only to damage themselves more severly then anyone else? Its like sacrificing themselves. Silly sods.


I see humour everywhere, it cannot be said that I am not a man who laughs a lot. Elite terrorists? I don't know that for sure, nor who or why, and I hardly trust what the newspapers have to tell me on that score.

But bombs, no it doesn't really strike me as being funny. Am I odd for that?

I see humour everywhere, it cannot be said that I am not a man who laughs a lot. Elite terrorists? I don't know that for sure, nor who or why, and I hardly trust what the newspapers have to tell me on that score.

But bombs, no it doesn't really strike me as being funny. Am I odd for that?

Please notice i did put 'elite' meaning sarcasm, I truly dont think these guys are particulary elite, if they were, then they would have done at least some damage...

Some newspapers can be trusted, like The Times and The Guardian, generally, they are centrist and equal. Perhaps some of the most trusted newspapers out there...

Its the fact the bombs didnt work which makes it funny, in the same way in the circus if a guy falls of his horse, you might laugh a bit at him, but you give him a round of applause because he still entertained you. With the terrorists, you just laugh.

I'm not seeing much humor in any of the past few days events.

I'm also not seeing any humor in the smug indifference shown by many of the posters.

What is this, sooo car bombs are funny then?

Dismally failed carbombs which only hurt one person (who was in the car, so presumably responsible), and yet still cause far too many people to scream "ZOMG TEH SKY IS FALLING HELP US HELP US TEH MUZLIMZ THEY ARE COMING TO KILL US ALL IN OUR SLEEP!"?

Yeah, I'd say that was pretty hilarious, to be honest :D

Dismally failed carbombs which only hurt one person (who was in the car, so presumably responsible), and yet still cause far too many people to scream "ZOMG TEH SKY IS FALLING HELP US HELP US TEH MUZLIMZ THEY ARE COMING TO KILL US ALL IN OUR SLEEP!"?

Yeah, I'd say that was pretty hilarious, to be honest :D

I think it must be the Brit sense of humour, to be honest. It came with the Blitz, no matter what happens, be slightly dotty and everything will work out - look at Monty Python, its mostly Brits who like 'em. Americans just can't understand our humour :(

Also, noticed how paranoid the 'other' section seems to be compared to the Brit section currently? ;)

Please notice i did put 'elite' meaning sarcasm, I truly dont think these guys are particulary elite, if they were, then they would have done at least some damage...

Some newspapers can be trusted, like The Times and The Guardian, generally, they are centrist and equal. Perhaps some of the most trusted newspapers out there...

Its the fact the bombs didnt work which makes it funny, in the same way in the circus if a guy falls of his horse, you might laugh a bit at him, but you give him a round of applause because he still entertained you. With the terrorists, you just laugh.

First off, I'll repeat this as I can see that you didn't get it that last time.

I don't know who these people are, or why they put bombs in cars at them locations. So terroists, more than likely, but I couldn't say for sure.

Secondly are you saying that when a bomb does not work, when in fact nobody gets killed it is not a lucky escape but funny?

So then all the people that didn't get shot a few weeks back in the States at that school, we can laugh at that, thats funny?

When somebody puts a bomb in a car, then a very good argument can be made about the intent of this action. Killing or maiming I would guess, you really find this funny, ohh sorry, only because it didn't work?

Am I really making too big a deal with this? Or is it moraly correct not to laugh at a bodged attempt at murder?

Dismally failed carbombs which only hurt one person (who was in the car, so presumably responsible), and yet still cause far too many people to scream "ZOMG TEH SKY IS FALLING HELP US HELP US TEH MUZLIMZ THEY ARE COMING TO KILL US ALL IN OUR SLEEP!"?

Yeah, I'd say that was pretty hilarious, to be honest :D

Ohhh geez, so then by that logic when child almost gets abused we can laugh at that too.

Ahhh I see, yep it now, I see just why the world is going to shit. People really do think that random violence against their fellow man is funny!

No, what's funny is the complete incompetence of the terrorists in question. We wouldn't be laughing if they'd succeeded.

I think it must be the Brit sense of humour, to be honest. It came with the Blitz, no matter what happens, be slightly dotty and everything will work out - look at Monty Python, its mostly Brits who like 'em. Americans just can't understand our humour :(

Also, noticed how paranoid the 'other' section seems to be compared to the Brit section currently? ;)

Oh, that's not true. I find almost all of your land's humor to be delightful.

Ohhh geez, so then by that logic when child almost gets abused we can laugh at that too.

We are laughing at the overreaction by the media and all the hysteria that this has generated. Seriously get a clue.:rolleyes:

Judging by the poll results, it is pretty obvious which country has had the history of actually have to deal with attacks on its soil and which hasn't.

My point being that 90% of terrorist acts nowadays are conducted by militant Islamists.

Actually the majority of terrorist attacks in Europe were nationalistic in origin. The Islamist tend to aim for higher-casualties though.

Judging by the poll results, it is pretty obvious which country has had the history of actually have to deal with attacks on its soil and which hasn't.

You might have a point there to be honest, do you think the British psychology is more used to 'the school of hard knocks'?

As Ive said it came with the Blitz, probably. America only ever got one attack from the Japanese on its mainland, and it failed horribly...

As a Brit, and as Glaswegian, I have to say: the "attacks" were laughable at best. Sorry, but you're going to have to do better than that.

You might have a point there to be honest, do you think the British psychology is more used to 'the school of hard knocks'?

As Ive said it came with the Blitz, probably. America only ever got one attack from the Japanese on its mainland, and it failed horribly...

Well, Britain had the IRA bombs in the 70s, and our culture has never really been a fear mongering one.

Well, Britain had the IRA bombs in the 70s, and our culture has never really been a fear mongering one.

70s right through to the early 2000s. It wasn't just NI getting bombed in that time, there was a lot in England (although the IRA didn't carry out operations in Scotland, for some reason).

Judging by the poll results, it is pretty obvious which country has had the history of actually have to deal with attacks on its soil and which hasn't.

Indeed. Besides, anyone who gets too hysterical will be mocked by elderly people who remember the Blitz (yes, this does happen :D). I'm just old enough to remember the IRA's bombing campaign, and this doesn't really worry me.

There are jokes about everything. One of the jokes I found on the interwebs about 9/11 goes as follows

And there were plenty of jokes about Hitler and the Nazis during WW2, is the current situation really more serious than that?

70s right through to the early 2000s. It wasn't just NI getting bombed in that time, there was a lot in England (although the IRA didn't carry out operations in Scotland, for some reason).

Possibly because there is (and was) a significant amount of grassroots IRA support here in Scotland.

Well, Britain had the IRA bombs in the 70s, and our culture has never really been a fear mongering one.

Do you think the Government pays the media to make sure they dont fear monger :P?

And there were plenty of jokes about Hitler and the Nazis during WW2, is the current situation really more serious than that?

Except that people too Hitler and the Nazis seriously in the UK during WW2.

It would appear that you don't take militant Islam seriously.

Let's see - what would have happened if people in the UK before WW2 had said, "let's not invest any money in defence, since that Hitler is just a fucking joke".

You would be speaking German right now.

Except that people too Hitler and the Nazis seriously in the UK during WW2.

It would appear that you don't take militant Islam seriously.

Let's see - what would have happened if people in the UK before WW2 had said, "let's not invest any money in defence, since that Hitler is just a fucking joke".

You would be speaking German right now.

Completely faulty comparison. We are investing in defence. We do see the threat of militant Islam. We don't, however, subscribe to living our lives in fear. Make light of life lest you live life checking under your bed every spare moment.

70s right through to the early 2000s. It wasn't just NI getting bombed in that time, there was a lot in England (although the IRA didn't carry out operations in Scotland, for some reason).

I'm "only" 26, but I do remember a long time when I was a kid that it seemed there were bombs going off every week, and it completely stopped being remarkable after a while. I'm on the mainland, and in a village, so nobody I knew was ever even near an attack, of course, but it just seemed "one of those things that happens", and it had always been happening for as long as I can remember. It makes a few failed attempts complete non-events, and yes, it's very funny when some get very worked up over them.

I'm not saying the people who tried to commit the attacks shouldn't be tracked down (for their own safety, if nothing else ¬_¬) but why not laugh at them? Maybe they'll get embarrassed and go away if we just don't care about them.

Except that people too Hitler and the Nazis seriously in the UK during WW2.

It would appear that you don't take militant Islam seriously.

Let's see - what would have happened if people in the UK before WW2 had said, "let's not invest any money in defence, since that Hitler is just a fucking joke".

You would be speaking German right now.

Actually, to be honest, remember your history?

Neville Chamberlain and appeasement ring any bells?

I'm "only" 26, but I do remember a long time when I was a kid that it seemed there were bombs going off every week, and it completely stopped being remarkable after a while. I'm on the mainland, and in a village, so nobody I knew was ever even near an attack, of course, but it just seemed "one of those things that happens", and it had always been happening for as long as I can remember. It makes a few failed attempts complete non-events, and yes, it's very funny when some get very worked up over them.

I'm not saying the people who tried to commit the attacks shouldn't be tracked down (for their own safety, if nothing else ¬_¬) but why not laugh at them? Maybe they'll get embarrassed and go away if we just don't care about them.

I'd be embarrassed by the cock-ups they've made the last few attempts, personally.

"WE SHALL KILL MANY TODAY... OHSHI I'M ON FIRE!"

It would appear that you don't take militant Islam seriously.

We have police and intelligence services to do just that.

Remember: Which is more likely to kill me?
Terrorists (of any brand),
Heart disease,
Cancer,
Car accident/being run over,
House fire,
Etc.

So, really, why should I live in such terror of such a tiny threat, when that's exactly what they want?


@The Mindset: Aye, indeed :D

We have police and intelligence services to do just that.

Remember: Which is more likely to kill me?
Terrorists (of any brand),
Heart disease,
Cancer,
Car accident/being run over,
House fire,
Etc.

So, really, why should I live in such terror of such a tiny threat, when that's exactly what they want?


@The Mindset: Aye, indeed :D

Because if you don't think it's serious, why should we pay taxes to hunt them down?

Let them move to the UK, en masse, and let them run the country! Why not? After all, they're not a threat.

Here, I'll sew you a burkha...

Because if you don't think it's serious, why should we pay taxes to hunt them down?

Let them move to the UK, en masse, and let them run the country! Why not? After all, they're not a threat.

Here, I'll sew you a burkha...

thats very kind of you, thanks. I'll sell it on e-bay.

Let me ask you a question, RO, where in the world do you come from?

Is it, per se a place with a fear mongering Government, i.e America?

thats very kind of you, thanks. I'll sell it on e-bay.

Let me ask you a question, RO, where in the world do you come from?

Is it, per se a place with a fear mongering Government, i.e America?

I'm from the US, but I don't see us as having a fear-mongering government.

For example, we haven't raised the security status of the US, even after the UK attacks.

I have, however, experienced being shot at by Muslim extremists at many points in my life, and I have generously returned the favor by turning the offenders into dead bodies.

I see them as serious about killing us, and destroying the West. You may laugh, and think that it's not possible, but if you ignore them long enough and well enough, they will destroy the West.

Only a matter of time, because they are quite dedicated, while you are a lazy slob who doesn't care about anything except yourself.

Not taking the aims of Islam seriously will be a grand mistake for Europe and the US, both. Recent attacks are from the last class graduated in Pakistan...and granted...they seem to keep sending the dunces to England. Can't wait to see what's in store for us in the States.

It won't be a violent take over, though. The attacks are for fear. The take over will occur when they have the population in place to vote themselves into office. Which in the case of France will be in the next 20years (france is being out populated something to the effect of 6-1 by their muslim population). Germany would be soon after.

And if no one noticed...a group in England was/is trying to pass laws for English schools to become more like Muslim schools. No boys and girls in classes together, no mixed gender field trips...and PE? Forget it. No swimming unless fully clothed. No contact sports with mixed genders. Oh...and curriculum? Everyone must learn about the Koran. And when Christian topics come up? Muslims can leave the classroom...don't want them learning about those lies...

Ignore if you will...but they're not a stupid people. The takeover won't be violent. It'll be silent. And all your European children will one day be under Sharia law if you don't take what's happening seriously.

Call me crazy if you want...but I just ask that you look at facts in the news.

Interesting/weird side fact about Muslims and homosexuality (since I've been doing the face to face research on it...at least in Iraq/Afghanistan). Homosexuality is bad. Unacceptable. But you want to have sex with another man for pleasure...that's apparently ok. I haven't quite figured out what their definition of gay is yet, though...cause I gotta tell ya..having sex with another man...pretty gay.

Yeah, RO's kind of right. It's not a fear-mongering government per se. It's more of a fear-mongering media, whether the government kinda shrugs and says "Ya never know."

Because if you don't think it's serious, why should we pay taxes to hunt them down?

Let them move to the UK, en masse, and let them run the country! Why not? After all, they're not a threat.

Here, I'll sew you a burkha...

:rolleyes:
Really, I can't think of anything better to say to that. Just :rolleyes:

And there were plenty of jokes about Hitler and the Nazis during WW2, is the current situation really more serious than that?That reminds me of a vulgar song...Except that people too Hitler and the Nazis seriously in the UK during WW2.

It would appear that you don't take militant Islam seriously.

Let's see - what would have happened if people in the UK before WW2 had said, "let's not invest any money in defence, since that Hitler is just a fucking joke".

You would be speaking German right now.You are so up your own arse. It is entirely possible to take something seriously and make fun out of it in the same relative timeframe.

Here's that vulgar song. Written at the beginning of WWII and Sung to the tune of Colonel Bogey March (http://www.ulujain.org/media/colonelbogeymarch.mid). Hitler has only got one ball,
Göring has two but very small,
Himmler has something sim'lar,
But poor old Goebbels has no balls at all.
I'm "only" 26, but I do remember a long time when I was a kid that it seemed there were bombs going off every week, and it completely stopped being remarkable after a while. I'm on the mainland, and in a village, so nobody I knew was ever even near an attack, of course, but it just seemed "one of those things that happens", and it had always been happening for as long as I can remember. It makes a few failed attempts complete non-events, and yes, it's very funny when some get very worked up over them.

I'm not saying the people who tried to commit the attacks shouldn't be tracked down (for their own safety, if nothing else ¬_¬) but why not laugh at them? Maybe they'll get embarrassed and go away if we just don't care about them.According to my Mum she was giving me a bath when I quite young and we heard this massive boom and my mum looks a little shocked and apparently I said, quite nonchalantly, "Oh, don't worry mum, it's probably just another bomb". I think several months later we were evacuated from the house. The police had found a large amount of semtex, fertiliser, and other bomb making stuff in a house across from ours. I was mainly pissed off because they'd closed the cornershop as well, so I couldn't get my mum to buy me any sweets to 'soothe my nerves'.

Terrorism just seemed such a smaller issue several years ago. Terrorists were treated like small children - the 'if you just stop paying them any attention then they'll stop' sorta attitude.

You guys. The title is horrible. If these 2 events did happen to take place, I don't think that you would be calling them "humourous"

Muslim extreemists will never become the most major threat we face no matter how hard they try. Diligence in security will keep the successful plots to a minimum and therefore we need not live in fear. If there was suddenly a rash of bombings around the country then I am sure that we will push back with 1,000,000 times the force.

I drive safely and wear a seat belt; still, there is a very real risk of getting into a car wreck (moreso than any terror plot ever taking my health or life) with someone who is much less careful which could injure me for life or even kill me. Should I tremble each time I put the keys in the ignition? I'll go about my day with the appropriate amount of caution and leave the bed wetting to you thanks.

RO you love to brag about shooting people don't you?

RO you love to brag about shooting people don't you?

There's nothing quite as exhilarating as being alive after something like that.

Something as mundane as jumping out of airplanes is nowhere near as exciting.

And Hemingway was right.

"Certainly there is no hunting like the hunting of man and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never really care for anything else thereafter. You will meet them doing various things with resolve, but their interest rarely holds because after the other thing ordinary life is as flat as the taste of wine when the taste buds have been burned off your tongue." - Ernest Hemingway

A nice cup of tea will solve everything.

There's nothing quite as exhilarating as being alive after something like that.

Something as mundane as jumping out of airplanes is nowhere near as exciting.

And Hemingway was right.

"Certainly there is no hunting like the hunting of man and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never really care for anything else thereafter. You will meet them doing various things with resolve, but their interest rarely holds because after the other thing ordinary life is as flat as the taste of wine when the taste buds have been burned off your tongue." - Ernest Hemingway



Then I propose that someone in law enforcement keep a close eye on you. Are yo a fan of the Zodiac Killer?

Then I propose that someone in law enforcement keep a close eye on you. Are yo a fan of the Zodiac Killer?

I already work in my off-time as an instructor for law enforcement. So I see them all the time.

No, I'm not a fan of serial killers. I have a predilection for killing under fully legal circumstances.

I'm from the US, but I don't see us as having a fear-mongering government.

For example, we haven't raised the security status of the US, even after the UK attacks.

I have, however, experienced being shot at by Muslim extremists at many points in my life, and I have generously returned the favor by turning the offenders into dead bodies.

I see them as serious about killing us, and destroying the West. You may laugh, and think that it's not possible, but if you ignore them long enough and well enough, they will destroy the West.

Only a matter of time, because they are quite dedicated, while you are a lazy slob who doesn't care about anything except yourself.

Why thank you for that beautiful comment at the end, I shall surely keep it on my gravestone ;)

Now, lets put it this way. Youre a farmer living on less then 4 pence (8 cents) a week. You live under a regime, but so far, it hasnt actually affected YOU. Some other country decides to step in though, and being the uneducated clot this farmer is, he decides to fight, to protect his lands and family. He buys a cheap Kalashnikov, and decides to save all he has worked for.

He gets shot, by you, sir, by you. Now you know Farmer Qu'Onadin's story, why don't you think of all the other people youve shot, and killed? Did they look rich? Educated? Healthy? Here, at least, we've got an education, and of course, the West doesnt have such thing as a religous fanatism, because thats only a dodgey thing 'dirty little Arabs' have, isn't it?

Terrorism just seemed such a smaller issue several years ago. Terrorists were treated like small children - the 'if you just stop paying them any attention then they'll stop' sorta attitude.

That was back when their goals could be achieved without killing or converting all non-believers.

That was back when their goals could be achieved without killing or converting all non-believers.

So what has changed between the Cole bombing and now?

As far as I can tell the objectives of the terrorists are the same, they are just portrayed in a much scarier light now.

Why thank you for that beautiful comment at the end, I shall surely keep it on my gravestone ;)

Now, lets put it this way. Youre a farmer living on less then 4 pence (8 cents) a week. You live under a regime, but so far, it hasnt actually affected YOU. Some other country decides to step in though, and being the uneducated clot this farmer is, he decides to fight, to protect his lands and family. He buys a cheap Kalashnikov, and decides to save all he has worked for.

He gets shot, by you, sir, by you. Now you know Farmer Qu'Onadin's story, why don't you think of all the other people youve shot, and killed? Did they look rich? Educated? Healthy? Here, at least, we've got an education, and of course, the West doesnt have such thing as a religous fanatism, because thats only a dodgey thing 'dirty little Arabs' have, isn't it?

I shot a dentist, and a mechanical engineer (who apparently had a PhD), among others.

As Ive said it came with the Blitz, probably. America only ever got one attack from the Japanese on its mainland, and it failed horribly...
A Hawaiin military base is hardly mainland. Even had they attacked Alaska, it isn't the same as attacking one of the 48 between Canada and Mexico.

The only attacks on American soil are large and far in between. Just enough to scare the American public into being idiots. In Europe, there are established terrorist cells due to separatists groups who want their own autonomy so the Europeans are rather jaded. Random bombing in America? Holy shit we're doooooomeeedddd!

:mp5:I shot a dentist, and a mechanical engineer (who apparently had a PhD), among others.

Then, surely, thats a pure waste? Think of all that time they spent, in University, their wives, no longer able to support themselves, probably raped or gang-banged.

Do you have no consideration when :mp5: others?

I do realise its a stupid question. sorry. But still, you'll just cause more resentment by fighting aggressively.

I shot a dentist, and a mechanical engineer (who apparently had a PhD), among others.

Where were you fighting?

And so it begins:

In Jordan, Asha's brother Ahmed told The Associated Press he had heard the media reports and said his sibling "is not a Muslim extremist, and he's not a fanatic."

Well, he either definitely isn't a fanatic, or he definitely... is. It's definitely one or the other.

Which one do you think it is guys?

the recent floods (in which 5 people have died so far) are far more important a story than some failed terrorism (in which no-one died, not even the guys driving the car).

Where were you fighting?

In and around Salman Pak, Iraq.

Another highly educated terrorist arrested...

the third doctor in the group....

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1273160,00.html

Gee, they don't look like poor farmers to me...

What is this, sooo car bombs are funny then?

Car bombs that not only don't go off, but get towed to an impound lot are funny.

Car "bombs" that consist of a jeep cherokee that catches on fire and crashes into a door, then has the moron driver jump out and flail around on fire and get arrested are funny too.

Fuck-up squad amateur terrorist shenanigans are FUNNY!

From the BBC:
An eighth person has been arrested abroad as part of the inquiry into the failed car bombings at Glasgow Airport and in London, the BBC has learned.

Police have not specified in which country the arrest took place.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6263408.stm

I wonder if it's related to this:

On the day of the bombings:
LOS ANGELES, CA, 6/29/07) - The Greater Los Angeles area chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR-LA) has been informed that a Muslim citizen of the United Kingdom is being held following his arrival yesterday on a flight from London. CAIR-LA is investigating the reason for the man’s detention. The 57-year-old man is reportedly scheduled to be returned to Britain on a flight later today.

http://www.cair.com/default.asp?Page=articleView&id=2811&theType=NR

Well it's always funny until somebody gets hurt :D

You forgot the pint option on the poll....

- don't give a fek as long as me pint ain't spilt innit?

"Brit - what is this shit? I'd rather be reading about Paris Hilton than this pathetic crap." sums it up.

Because if you don't think it's serious, why should we pay taxes to hunt them down?

Let them move to the UK, en masse, and let them run the country! Why not? After all, they're not a threat.

Here, I'll sew you a burkha...

Yeah, fuck it...don't let facts get in the way of the old "burkha" one liner.

Considering the number of muslims in Britain there should be - were they as militant as you like to imply- a bomb every week. There isn't. Why?

You forgot the pint option on the poll....

- don't give a fek as long as me pint ain't spilt innit?I'm guessing you must have spilt your beer if you could get it together to post that. :p There's no pleasing some people.

You sure you can't make it to Leicester in August? :(

*wonders who voted for the blitz option*

I'm guessing you must have spilt your beer if you could get it together to post that. :p There's no pleasing some people.

You sure you can't make it to Leicester in August? :(

*wonders who voted for the blitz option*

LOL well funnily enough....I just moved into me new gaff....and yes...I spilled my bloody beer! :mad: LOL

re Leicester....see the meetup thread ;)

In and around Salman Pak, Iraq.

Which war?

That's the thing; there was no violence against their fellow man. It was more like that drunk guy on a Saturday night who trys to start a fight, misses the guy he's swinging at, and ends up on the floor. Just comical. Right, the actions of the terrorism isn't funny...
Everyone knows that.

Terrorism isn't funny...

The irony however, is funny.
They set all this up to hurt others... And only hurt themselves. Ironic

I'm from the US, but I don't see us as having a fear-mongering government.

For example, we haven't raised the security status of the US, even after the UK attacks.

I have, however, experienced being shot at by Muslim extremists at many points in my life, and I have generously returned the favor by turning the offenders into dead bodies.

I see them as serious about killing us, and destroying the West. You may laugh, and think that it's not possible, but if you ignore them long enough and well enough, they will destroy the West.

Only a matter of time, because they are quite dedicated, while you are a lazy slob who doesn't care about anything except yourself.
In other words... You fear them...
You are TERRORIZED.

The goal of TERRORISM is not to kill people but to cause TERROR.

It worked.

The terrorists have already beaten you.

How do you like that Remote, You've already lost to the terrorists by your emotions of "OMG ISLAM IS OUT TO GET US!!"

Another highly educated terrorist arrested...

the third doctor in the group....

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1273160,00.html

Gee, they don't look like poor farmers to me...
More fear mongering... The terrorists sure got you good didn't they!
Quit helping them by trying to make everyone constantly afraid.

"Brit - what is this shit? I'd rather be reading about Paris Hilton than this pathetic crap." sums it up.

Trying to deflect attention and cover it up? :rolleyes:

So, Remote you like to murder innocent people? You sir are human vermin.

LOL. We Brits aren't nearly as worried as the foreigners, according to the poll.

I wouldn't go as far as to say I'm overtly laughing at the attempted attacks, but I'm not unduly concerned about them. Locally, there is an element of humour in the way people have reacted - presumably because the attacks themselves were not very well executed, shall we say, and because it's "ok to laugh since no innocents were hurt".

Regardless of how abhorrent some of you find this mentality it is just the way that it is... I suggest that some people need to examine their own reactions lest they find themselves terrorised, and thus - as alluded to earlier in the thread - allow the terrorists to 'win'.

Couldn't bring myself to vote as "Brit - what is this shit? I'd rather be reading about Paris Hilton than this pathetic crap." though... which forces me to confront the fact that I find media coverage of Paris Hilton more annoying than media coverage of intercultural terrorism. (This may indicate that I have some issues of my own to deal with).

We are laughing at the overreaction by the media and all the hysteria that this has generated. Seriously get a clue.:rolleyes:

Really?

Now I work in media, and I see no over reaction, not by the media nor the general public. Hysteria? The only form of that I see is here on this forum. funnyly enough not one of the other forums I frequent have anything to say about it.

No I guess that you are laughing at the incompteance of the people, and I guess that is okay; In the same way as laughing at a little boy almost being molested is ummm.

Really?

Now I work in media, and I see no over reaction, not by the media nor the general public. Hysteria? The only form of that I see is here on this forum. funnyly enough not one of the other forums I frequent have anything to say about it.

No I guess that you are laughing at the incompteance of the people, and I guess that is okay; In the same way as laughing at a little boy almost being molested is ummm.

Well, if the molesting priest in question stumbled and fell into the fond and nearly drowned... I would laugh.

Then you must come from a differant Britian to me? In the Britian I come from yes we can and do laugh at our own misfortune, I have never seen any of my fellow Brits laugh hartily at bombs though?

Should visit Northern Ireland. Humour takes some of the sting out of it

Really?

Now I work in media, and I see no over reaction, not by the media nor the general public. Hysteria? The only form of that I see is here on this forum. funnyly enough not one of the other forums I frequent have anything to say about it.

No I guess that you are laughing at the incompteance of the people, and I guess that is okay; In the same way as laughing at a little boy almost being molested is ummm.Have you never heard a priest and altar boy joke before?

being British (and jumping past every page in this thread, thus ruining the direction) I can say I've never really cared about terrorism, I'm far more concerned about what the hell happened to summer :confused:

being British (and jumping past every page in this thread, thus ruining the direction) I can say I've never really cared about terrorism, I'm far more concerned about what the hell happened to summer :confused:Pfft, well if you'd bothered to read the rest of the damn thread then you'd have realised that it is the terrorists who are responsible for the lack of summer. New tactics you see - they're currently holding summer hostage until we give into their demands.

New tactics you see - they're currently holding summer hostage until we give into their demands.

:eek: there used to be summers in Britain?!

damn those terrorist clouds :p

:eek: there used to be summers in Britain?!

damn those terrorist clouds :p

We must stay the course and continue pumping toxic, vile chemicals into the atmosphere in order to smoke 'em out.

Should visit Northern Ireland. Humour takes some of the sting out of it

Two hoods are driving down the Ormeau Road. One says to the other 'pull over here while I shoot into the bookies'.

Two hoods are driving down the Ormeau Road. One says to the other 'pull over here while I shoot into the bookies'.

'The Troubles according to my Da' is great for jokes like that

i don't know why i am supposed to be concerned about failed terrorists. britain's coped with much more effective and much more prolific terrorists. i'm more concerned about getting run over than any threat to my life by terrorists. and anyone who knows me will tell you of my extraordinary negligence while crossing the road.

Really?

Now I work in media, and I see no over reaction, not by the media nor the general public. Hysteria? The only form of that I see is here on this forum. funnyly enough not one of the other forums I frequent have anything to say about it.

No I guess that you are laughing at the incompteance of the people, and I guess that is okay; In the same way as laughing at a little boy almost being molested is ummm.

What the hell is your problem? Where did I, nay, anyone say that child molestation is funny?

Really?

Now I work in media, and I see no over reaction, not by the media nor the general public. Hysteria? The only form of that I see is here on this forum. funnyly enough not one of the other forums I frequent have anything to say about it.

No I guess that you are laughing at the incompteance of the people, and I guess that is okay; In the same way as laughing at a little boy almost being molested is ummm.

Now, you've said your British, so you can't back out of this and suddenly say 'No, I am not teh ebils Brits, but teh winn3r Americ4ns' but, I was alluding more towards the American media.

Its not the same as a little boy almost being molested. It would be the same if the little boys molester (say the Choirmaster) got his robe burnt on a candle, and someone knocked him unconcious just as he was about to molest the boy.

But they're still not that comparable...

-Remote Observer, Salman Pak was where Saddam Hussein used to live. Only the elite of his guards were allowed to be there, and only the elite of his guards - those who had fought for him their entire lives - were allowed to fight there.

And killing someone with a Ph.D and gloating over it, is truely wrong. You should feel terrible - do you feel no guilt at all? He might have contributed greatly to the world...But I forget, he is 'the dirty little Arab' meaning that he surely cannot be thaat clever...