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http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/06/29/hamas.mouse.ap/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

GAZA CITY (AP) -- A Mickey Mouse lookalike who preached Islamic domination on a Hamas-affiliated children's television program was the victim of a pretend beating death in the show's final episode Friday.

In the final skit, the "Farfour" character was killed by an actor posing as an Israeli official trying to buy Farfour's land. At one point, the mouse called the Israeli a "terrorist."

"Farfour was martyred while defending his land," said Sara, the teen presenter. He was killed "by the killers of children," she added.

The weekly show, featuring a giant black-and-white rodent with a high-pitched voice, had attracted worldwide attention because the character urged Palestinian children to fight Israel. It was broadcast on Hamas-affiliated Al Aqsa TV.

Station officials said Friday that Farfour was taken off the air to make room for new programs. Station manager Mohammed Bilal said he did not know what would be shown instead.

Israeli officials have denounced the program, "Tomorrow's Pioneers," as incendiary and outrageous. The program was also opposed by the state-run Palestinian Broadcasting Corp., which is controlled by Fatah, Hamas' rival.

Absolutely disgusting...

Wow, they start the propaganda mill early over there. That's pretty sad.

The Israeli government will clearly stop at nothing to rob the Palestinians of their land; they would even stoop so low as to assassinate innocent television actors.

wow.

that is so low.

i hope it was taken off the air because no children could be bothered to watch this crappy propaganda tv.

The ending was so utterly absurd I found it comical. I laughed when it was described to me.


I should add that I have relatives living in Israel, so don't thinking I am laughing at Israel's expense

I'm laughing at this. I'll be laughing more when Soviestan, OD, AP, and UB come here and spout their usual anti-semitic bullshit.

I want to see this epidsode. :D

I want to see this epidsode. :D

Ditto, I'm searching YouTube for it right now.

This is bullshit. The character was a cheap ripoff of Mickey Mouse. Hamas has crossed the line.

You'll be getting a lawsuit very soon Hamas. And let me warn you, the American justice system is no picnic!

Not the last episode, but here's a Youtube sample:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZEGsnWZKh8

Start watching at 1:55.

"WE WILL WIN, BUSH!!!....WE WILL WIN, CONDOLEEZA!"

....what. the. hell?

Another one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S995NCeaUg


"Why did you cheat?"

"It was against my will, uncle Hazem, because the Jews destroyed our home, and when the Jews destroyed our home I couldn't find my notebooks!!"

"By Allah's will, we will promote through Islam good, love, and justice."


Can anyone confirm if these translations are accurate? It's so...unbelievably ludicrous. Also, can anyone find the last episode?

Can anyone confirm if these translations are accurate? It's so...unbelievably ludicrous. Also, can anyone find the last episode?

I was laughing thinking that the islamic version of youtube had Barney praising the war in Iraq or something of the sort. :D

Propaganda is fun.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/06/29/hamas.mouse.ap/index.html?eref=rss_topstories



Absolutely disgusting...
I'm surprised he didn't martyr himself by killing tens of Israeli children.

Of course that would not have caused the desired reaction.

Although he does encourage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvjcMHXQPCc) the viewers to do so.

"We will annihilate the Jews." Incredible...

Well that's one way to end your show. They knew their time was running out so they pull this stunt as their goodbye.

But at least the show had a happy ending.

It reminds me of when Barney(tm) was beaten to death by liberals.

It reminds me of when Barney(tm) was beaten to death by liberals.

When was this, and who didn't invite me?

When was this, and who didn't invite me?

That's just what I was thinking. :p

They should've had the Bush girls run over the mouse while DUI.

It's win-win; we get rid of that damn mouse, and Hamas gets their "martyr".

Can anyone confirm if these translations are accurate? It's so...unbelievably ludicrous. Also, can anyone find the last episode?

BTW, I don't know if everyone knows this, but the subtitle translations for these Hamas Mickey shows were deliberately mistranslated by MEMRI.

BTW, I don't know if everyone knows this, but the subtitle translations for these Hamas Mickey shows were deliberately mistranslated by MEMRI.

So, eh, has anyone published the correct ones?

So, eh, has anyone published the correct ones?

I don't believe so no. I haven't found any other clips besides the MEMRI translated ones. But here's what I've found out:

The transcript claims that "Sanabel", the little girl caller of the show, responds to the host's question "Sanabel, what will you do for the sake of the Al-Aqsa Mosque?" with "I will shoot!"

It's actually the Mickey character that says that and even makes the gesture of carrying a weapon.

The little girl Sanabel does however respond, but MEMRI omits her response. The little girl actually said in Arabic "bedi arsem soora", which means "I will draw a picture."

So this girl says she wants to draw a picture, and MEMRI transforms that to "I will shoot."

-----

Then there is the more outrageous mistranslation:

"We will annihilate the Jews."
The girl can be clearly heard saying in Arabic "betokhoona el yahood", which means "the Jews shoot us."

The word "betokh-oo-na" can be broken down part by part and explained easily as follows:

betokh: the verb "shoots"
oo: the 3rd person plural subject pronoun meaning "they". It becomes "they shoot".
na: the 1st person plural object pronoun meaning "we". It becomes "they shoot us"

I don't believe so no. I haven't found any other clips besides the MEMRI translated ones. But here's what I've found out:

The transcript claims that "Sanabel", the little girl caller of the show, responds to the host's question "Sanabel, what will you do for the sake of the Al-Aqsa Mosque?" with "I will shoot!"

It's actually the Mickey character that says that and even makes the gesture of carrying a weapon.

The little girl Sanabel does however respond, but MEMRI omits her response. The little girl actually said in Arabic "bedi arsem soora", which means "I will draw a picture."

So this girl says she wants to draw a picture, and MEMRI transforms that to "I will shoot."

-----

Then there is the more outrageous mistranslation:

"We will annihilate the Jews."
The girl can be clearly heard saying in Arabic "betokhoona el yahood", which means "the Jews shoot us."

The word "betokh-oo-na" can be broken down part by part and explained easily as follows:

betokh: the verb "shoots"
oo: the 3rd person plural subject pronoun meaning "they". It becomes "they shoot".
na: the 1st person plural object pronoun meaning "we". It becomes "they shoot us"

Eh.. I'll take your word for it. :p Sounds messed up.

It's win-win; we get rid of that damn mouse, and Hamas gets their "martyr".

You sound so sure about that. I'm sure it'll be back.

Eh.. I'll take your word for it. :p Sounds messed up.

Those are just some of the mistranslations from the most infamous episode. There's a lot more of them. I'll be back later.

Those are just some of the mistranslations from the most infamous episode. There's a lot more of them. I'll be back later.

The translations seemed a little outrageous, but the original is still fucked up.

Sickening.

It's only acting, I'd think Israel would prefer to drop a very large bomb on the TV station and take the mouse out that way.

I don't believe so no. I haven't found any other clips besides the MEMRI translated ones. But here's what I've found out:
...SNIP...[/B]"

So, what is the source of your information?

It's only acting, ....

But this wasn't acting http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=3314347

In Afghanistan, they took a six-year-old boy who is very impoverished, strapped a vest on him, and told him when he pushed the button "flowers would flow out." They then sent him off to find some military or police and push the button. The kid was a bit smarter than his would be killers thought and got help.

Those are not nice people who want use children to kill others “In the name of God.” I don’t think God likes people who use kids that way or use a TV show to brainwash the kids into hating. :mad:

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/06/29/hamas.mouse.ap/index.html?eref=rss_topstories



Absolutely disgusting...

I fucking hate propaganda.

In the final skit, the "Farfour" character was killed by an actor posing as an Israeli official trying to buy Farfour's land. At one point, the mouse called the Israeli a "terrorist."

The irony is that if the Mouse had sold the land he would probably have been executed by the PA. Selling Palestinian land to Israelis certainly used to be a crime punishable by death, I think it still is.

Oh Lord...

''LMFAO''? or ''WTF?''

Comıcai aspect asıde that ıs really low and I fınd ıt dısgustıng.. Ekhh... fuckıng Hamas..


(Yes I am Muslım)

The Hamas propaganda is indeed awful and sickening. However, I don't think MEMRI needs to exaggerate it either.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/06/29/hamas.mouse.ap/index.html?eref=rss_topstories



Absolutely disgusting...

IF by disgusting you mean "hilarious". :D

Not the last episode, but here's a Youtube sample:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZEGsnWZKh8

Start watching at 1:55.

"WE WILL WIN, BUSH!!!....WE WILL WIN, CONDOLEEZA!"

....what. the. hell?

Another one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S995NCeaUg



Can anyone confirm if these translations are accurate? It's so...unbelievably ludicrous. Also, can anyone find the last episode?

The ones that come through that "Mid-East monitoring" bunch frequently aren't. CNN refuse to broadcast their crap occassionally. We were through all this before not long ago.

wow.

that is so low.

i hope it was taken off the air because no children could be bothered to watch this crappy propaganda tv.what do you expect after 60 years of israeli occupation of palestine?

IF by disgusting you mean "hilarious". :D

Yeah, pretty much. In a depressing way.

Yeah, pretty much. In a depressing way.Well, in Hollywood movies Germans are always the evil guys. In the Arab world it's the Israelis. And why? Because of history (including the present). If Israel doesn't want to be portrayed as evil it should stop being evil and end the occupation of the West Bank. Very easy.

Now if only someone would do the same in RL to everyone associated with the production and broadcast of this garbage.

Well, in Hollywood movies Germans are always the evil guys.

O RLY?

http://www.poster.net/terminator/terminator-arnold-schwarzenegger-3700480.jpg

Damn! I forgot he was the bad guy in that one. I meant:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/85/Terminator2poster.jpg

O RLY?

http://www.poster.net/terminator/terminator-arnold-schwarzenegger-3700480.jpg

Damn! I forgot he was the bad guy in that one. I meant:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/85/Terminator2poster.jpg

Actually he's Austrian.

Absolutely disgusting...

Disgusting? More like hilarious. Stephen Colbert couldn't come up with something this funny.

Sure, it wasn't MEANT to be funny, but you have to have a bit of a sense of humor about people's frothing hatreds.

Well, in Hollywood movies Germans are always the evil guys. In the Arab world it's the Israelis. And why? Because of history (including the present). If Israel doesn't want to be portrayed as evil it should stop being evil and end the occupation of the West Bank. Very easy.

Well, it didn't exactly work for the Germans.

Now if only someone would do the same in RL to everyone associated with the production and broadcast of this garbage.

If by 'this garbage' you mean 'propaganda' - I would, for the first time, be rather keen to watch FOXnews.

If by 'this garbage' you mean 'propaganda' - I would, for the first time, be rather keen to watch FOXnews.

You're watching a propaganda channel to watch distributors of propaganda get beaten to death?

The irony is causing my refrigerator magnets to be ripped off the fridge and stick to me.

Muhahahahaha! I mean, awwww....

Besides the fact that is mildly amusing, it's a great way to get kinds to strap bombs to their chests and blow themselves up in an Israeli settlement.

"Die, Israeli scum, for you killed my favourite cartoon character!"

Sure, it's ridiculous, but, hey, if it works...

You're watching a propaganda channel to watch distributors of propaganda get beaten to death?

The irony is causing my refrigerator magnets to be ripped off the fridge and stick to me.

Not to worry, my little pirhana fish - it's something you clearly fail to grasp and it's called wit.

Not to worry, my little pirhana fish - it's something you clearly fail to grasp and it's called wit.

Clearly, you failed to catch an unintentional irony in your post and are now trying to reverse and claim it was your plan all along!

Clearly, you failed to catch an unintentional irony in your post and are now trying to reverse and claim it was your plan all along!

I will never be free from the dunderheaded, it would seem.

.

Actually he's Austrian.

So is Hitler.

So is Hitler.
is?

Ze fuhrer is alive?????????

is?

Ze fuhrer is alive?????????

Bits of him, anyway...

http://www.markdery.com/archives/images/Hitlers_Brain.jpg

This is actually pretty accurate the normal goings on in the West Bank.

This is actually pretty accurate the normal goings on in the West Bank.

So says the antisemitic raving lunatic.

So says the antisemitic raving lunatic.Who has, of course, been there and seen it with his own eyes.

Rather than sitting on the other end of the world and selectively acknowledging/ ignoring reports depending entirely on whether they do or don't conform to his opinion, which is largely based on 'Whoever hates America is a good guy! Whoever doesn't is evil!'

I mean, who would do that? It'd be silly. Nobody would ever be crackhead enough to think like that.

One wishes...

I propose a poll. Who will be resurrected first. The mouse or Captain America.

Who has, of course, been there and seen it with his own eyes.

Rather than sitting on the other end of the world and selectively acknowledging/ ignoring reports depending entirely on whether they do or don't conform to his opinion, which is largely based on 'Whoever hates America is a good guy! Whoever doesn't is evil!'

I mean, who would do that? It'd be silly. Nobody would ever be crackhead enough to think like that.

One wishes...
For your information, I have been there too. AP is an acknowledged anti-semite. Just ask around this forum about him, UB, OD, Soviestan, and a few other lunatics.

Wahey, here we go!

Considering Andaras Prime believes in the Jewish Media Conspiracy (by the way, IDF, did you ever see that little exchange?) I think in this case IDF is not unjustified in his assessment.


Ooh, it's sarcasm. I sort of see that now, but it's a bit fuzzy.

For your information, I have been there too. AP is an acknowledged anti-semite. Just ask around this forum about him, UB, OD, Soviestan, and a few other lunatics.Okay. That one went right over your head.

Hint: I was sarcastic and deriding Andaras Prime while agreeing with you.

Okay. That one went right over your head.

Hint: I was sarcastic and deriding Andaras Prime while agreeing with you.
Can you please just hit me over the head? I'm suffering the effects of a hangover. Ummm, yeah, that's the ticket! I'm hungover!

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-hamas-mickey-mouse,0,6013722.story?coll=sns-ap-nationworld-headlines

Remember that Hamas Bizarro version of Mickey Mouse? Well he's gone now, but so is the enduring "WTF" in my mind about it doesn't. It's wrong to prey on their minds like that. I know Israel has done a lot of bad things, but these children need to know that not all of the Israelis are bad people. A great deal of them don't like whats going on right now.

And the point you're providing for discussion is...?

And the point you're providing for discussion is...?

That it's wrong to brainwash children into hating a people by beating to death a TV character, I'm guessing.

It's hardly a spam thread.

And the point you're providing for discussion is...?

It's wrong to prey on their minds like that. I know Israel has done a lot of bad things, but these children need to know that not all of the Israelis are bad people. A great deal of them don't like whats going on right now.

This.

This.
So I agree. And then?

and peace in the Middle East has once again been delayed.

I was wondering what all of you thought about this since this was a very big deal back when it started out. Also, I wanted to know how all of you thought this would affect the psyches of these children. Would a lot of them pay attention to the message being put out or just looking at the "cuteness" of the character.*

*I say that out of experience since I never really paid attention to any of the things Barney would say about math and such. I just wanted to hear some funny songs.

So I agree. And then?

Well, then... That's... it.

Yeah, this thread isn't gonna be a hotbed of debate, I see.

I was wondering what all of you thought about this since this was a very big deal back when it started out. Also, I wanted to know how all of you thought this would affect the psyches of these children. Would a lot of them pay attention to the message being put out or just looking at the "cuteness" of the character.*

*I say that out of experience since I never really paid attention to any of the things Barney would say about math and such. I just wanted to hear some funny songs.

I think this will create a how new generation of recruit for Hamas because now they'll always remember their favorite TV show character being killed by Israelites.

Hooray for brain washing!

and peace in the Middle East has once again been delayed.

DAMN YOU MARTYR MOUSE!!!

Seriously, how fucked up does a region have to be for the death of a cartoon character to delay peace?

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/06/29/hamas.mouse.ap/index.html?eref=rss_topstories



Absolutely disgusting...

wow, thats wunderbar

Well, then... That's... it.

Yeah, this thread isn't gonna be a hotbed of debate, I see.
:D

Just checking if I missed something... :p

So says the antisemitic raving lunatic.

So says the 'all arabs must be exterminated for the Jewish super state' lunatic.

This is amazing to me. They make this sort of shows, and at best, it makes it to the newspapers. But if EWTN ran a series, authorized by the Holy Father, encouraging the youth to prepare themselves to crusade against the Mohommedans...those Mohommedans would be up in arms, burning down churches, and killing Arabic Christians.

:mad:

burning down churches,

Hey, that was one time. And, to be fair, the guy was mentally unstable.

Why he was in power is anyone's guess, but... w/e. It was like 1000 years ago.

Hey, that was one time. And, to be fair, the guy was mentally unstable.

Why he was in power is anyone's guess, but... w/e. It was like 1000 years ago.

Dude, they've done it en masse even recently. Remember when the Holy Father called the Mohommedans violent? They protested being called violent...by doing violence, in exactly the manner I so described.

You see, why can't we just be grateful arabic television has diversity! When was the last time you saw a show on American television with both a muslim character and an Israeli character?

:p

Dude, they've done it en masse even recently. Remember when the Holy Father called the Mohommedans violent? They protested being called violent...by doing violence, in exactly the manner I so described.

OK, umm... That was a historical reference to the event that started the whole "Fundie Christian" versus "Fundie Muslim" thing.

You see, why can't we just be grateful arabic television has diversity! When was the last time you saw a show on American television with both a muslim character and an Israeli character?

:p

The News?

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/06/29/hamas.mouse.ap/index.html?eref=rss_topstories



Absolutely disgusting...

That beats the hell out of Sesame Street.

That beats the hell out of Sesame Street.

I'm really glad I didn't have any liquid in my mouth when I read that.

So says the 'all arabs must be exterminated for the Jewish super state' lunatic.

now go and prove I've said that.

I can certainly prove you are an anti-semitic bastard. You can't prove shit about me.

now go and prove I've said that.

I can certainly prove you are an anti-semitic bastard. You can't prove shit about me.

Man, this kind of intelligent discourse is what restores my faith in humanity.

*Sniff* It's so wonderful...

We need to resurrect Disney so he can whoop up on Hamas for stealing steam boat willy(for those of you who don't know that the first Mikey Mouse) those radical bastards shall pay for their copyright infringement!!!!!!!!

I'm really glad I didn't have any liquid in my mouth when I read that.

That's the kind of thing I like to hear. :D

now go and prove I've said that.

I can certainly prove you are an anti-semitic bastard. You can't prove shit about me.

Oh yes your quote collection, like they prove anything.

If by 'this garbage' you mean 'propaganda' - I would, for the first time, be rather keen to watch FOXnews.

No, by "this garbage" I mean the Ham-ass garbage that is the subject of this thread. And nice try with the Fox blast, but any attempt to compare the two is simply evidence of intellectual bankruptcy and doesn't deserve to be taken seriously.

This is amazing to me. They make this sort of shows, and at best, it makes it to the newspapers. But if EWTN ran a series, authorized by the Holy Father, encouraging the youth to prepare themselves to crusade against the Mohommedans...those Mohommedans would be up in arms, burning down churches, and killing Arabic Christians.

:mad:

If only EWTN would run such a program.

welllll, thats political stuff for you. Utter ----

Oh yes your quote collection, like they prove anything.Excuse me, Sir, but that isn't quite what IDF meant.

IDF asked you to provide evidence - ideally, links - that he ever said what you claim he did.

So far, you appear to dodge the issue (Unless your evidence consists of 'He's a Jew! Of course he wants to kill arab babies!'. Admittedly, it's a fairly popular position that hasn't lost its appeal to assorted crackheads over the course of two thousand years, but nonetheless... Something more tangible would be nice), which doesn't bode well for your respectab- Well, nevermind, it's not like anyone takes your mindless bitching about Stuff You Dislike (tm) seriously in the first place, but still. You could at least try to build up some of it.

Oh yes your quote collection, like they prove anything.

Call me naive, but I assumed that what the opinions you expressed in your posts were related to your actual opinions. If this isn't the case then maybe you should put a disclaimer in your signature:

The views expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author. This post is a work of fiction. Any similarities to real events or people, living or dead, are entirely coincidental.