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I will add a poll soon; I am curious at what ages you made your pilgrimage to Mecca (or Hajj), or intend to make it. You may post your stories in the meantime.

Why has Soviestan chaged his name, and become more stooooooopid than before?

I do not see myself entering Mecca, as I am not a muslim. However, even if it was open to tourism, I would not go, as I would not want to put any money into the economy of a sexist, authoritarian theocratic government.

However, I would certainly consider going if the Saudi Arabian regime was overthrown.

Paris Hilton found God.

I will add a poll soon; I am curious at what ages you made your pilgrimage to Mecca (or Hajj), or intend to make it. You may post your stories in the meantime.

It is common practice to put a "For those who..." bit in threads concerning a minority.

Why has Soviestan chaged his name, and become more stooooooopid than before?

1. This thread isn't worth flaming.
2. Have you read this guys posts? He's not serious, but his posts are fucking hilarious. I think he's been sigged at least once already.

oh i assumed he is DCD come back in "jesussaves" mode.


as a non-moslem i am barred from the holiest sites of islam. so no, i will not be making the hajj

My armored divisions aren't ready yet. Once they are, Mecca will be the first to know.

1. This thread isn't worth flaming.
2. Have you read this guys posts? He's not serious, but his posts are fucking hilarious. I think he's been sigged at least once already.

Oh right. Good on him.:D

oh i assumed he is DCD come back in "jesussaves" mode.

I thought that might be it too. He's the only guy I can think of who could come up with this awesomeness.

oh i assumed he is DCD come back in "jesussaves" mode.


as a non-moslem i am barred from the holiest sites of islam. so no, i will not be making the hajj

Do you think they'd let you in if you claimed you were on the guestlist?

I'm not allowed to make the Hajj since I'm not a muslim. I'll ask a friend of mine to take lots of pictures instead when he goes :D :p

I'll go when they have a Starbucks and a good rib joint.

I am an infidel and won't be seeing a big giant square box.

I'll just have to go to Disney World instead, but don't worry, I'm hurting inside, oh yes.

Actually, they don't really ask if you're muslim or not when you get there. Just act like you're there for a reason and no-one really cares.

and yes, I have been there. Seriously.

I imagine I'll be making the customary infidel pilgrimage to Las Vegas instead.

I'll go when they have a Starbucks and a good rib joint.

To be a good Muslim, you must never fail to support the corporate underdog, whether in international coffee shop chains or other business. In any case, Allah prefers Tully's Coffee.

Isn't Mecca a furniture store or something?

Actually, they don't really ask if you're muslim or not when you get there. Just act like you're there for a reason and no-one really cares.

and yes, I have been there. Seriously.

Of course, it's in a barbaric country where they'll probably cut limbs off of you if they catch you.

Isn't Mecca a furniture store or something?

Over here Mecca is a candy store :D (http://www.mecca.nl/ in dutch, but you can see nice pictures)

Is this an attempt to rise to higher attempts of fail then seen before? It is a sad attempt if that is what this is. I've seen worse.

You his posts fail?

Check this out:

To be a good Muslim, you must never fail to support the corporate underdog, whether in international coffee shop chains or other business. In any case, Allah prefers Tully's Coffee.

The Sadisco Room is an excellent replacement for DCD. He's almost as hilarious.

I will add a poll soon; I am curious at what ages you made your pilgrimage to Mecca (or Hajj), or intend to make it. You may post your stories in the meantime.

I'm gonna go on the 12th of Never.

Over here Mecca is a candy store :D (http://www.mecca.nl/ in dutch, but you can see nice pictures)

Screw the furniture store, I'm going to that mecca, ASAP.

Dang, I already voted on the poll :(

Is this an attempt to rise to higher attempts of fail then seen before? It is a sad attempt if that is what this is. I've seen worse.

Well, if it is, at least he's trying. NSG legend has it that a thread with enough fail will end up going off the end of phail to awesome back to phail until you end up years back in time.

So this thread could really just be an attempt to travel through time.

Of course, it's in a barbaric country where they'll probably cut limbs off of you if they catch you.

Well, if you're dumb enough to tell them you're not muslim when you're there, you kind of do deserve that to happen to you.

Do you think they'd let you in if you claimed you were on the guestlist?

yes i do.

as long as i dress and behave properly.

i have no idea what restrictions on women in mecca might be beyond extremely modest dress.

Of course, it's in a barbaric country where they'll probably cut limbs off of you if they catch you.

You know, I was invited to a beheading in Riyadh. We turned down the invitation, having just attended a behanding? the day before.

You know, I was invited to a beheading in Riyadh. We turned down the invitation, having just attended a behanding? the day before.

You willingly attended a behanding?

yes i do.

as long as i dress and behave properly.

i have no idea what restrictions on women in mecca might be beyond extremely modest dress.

Too much, really. You're better off trying to pass off as a man.

To be a good Muslim, you must never fail to support the corporate underdog, whether in international coffee shop chains or other business. In any case, Allah prefers Tully's Coffee.

Actually, on a serious note, there's a McDonald's right outside one of the Ka'aba's main gates. There's a couple of other franchises as well, and they're building lots of high-rise buildings around it.

Also, I like the last option on the poll... I am indeed an infidel.:D

Well, if you're dumb enough to tell them you're not muslim when you're there, you kind of do deserve that to happen to you.

Probably. Stupid people deserve to die after all.

I'd like to fly over Mecca in a lawn chair held in the air by a bunch of helium balloons - and I'd wave to the crowds below - and tell them I am allah

To the OP: It depends, is there beer in mecca?

I thought that might be it too. He's the only guy I can think of who could come up with this awesomeness.

that is exactly the reason i made the assumption. he is head and shoulders above the typical troll. who else would do this well?

Over here Mecca is a candy store :D (http://www.mecca.nl/ in dutch, but you can see nice pictures)

That is blasphemey to the extreme. If I have my way, the Dutch flag-making industry will be the next to feel Allah's economic boost. Or the French flag-making industry, whichever is cheapest.

I'd like to fly over Mecca in a lawn chair held in the air by a bunch of helium balloons - and I'd wave to the crowds below - and tell them I am allah

That would be awesome! :)

You his posts fail?

Check this out:



The Sadisco Room is an excellent replacement for DCD. He's almost as hilarious.

Meh. These Muslim threads get on my nerves. I really can't find anything funny about them. I am waiting for the other shoe to drop.

You willingly attended a behanding?

No, we were actually walking back from the Safeway to our quarters -- this was during Desert Storm and I was TAD on a CENTCOM thing -- We happened upon it and didn't realize what was going on until too late.

Probably. Stupid people deserve to die after all.

If they manage to get into that kind of situation, yes, they most certainly do. Hey, it is theoretically their own fault. Did I mention I don't like stupid people?:rolleyes:

Somehow, someway, this will turn into a reply where I am actually called stupid and because of the logic, I somehow deserve to die. Just that I won't actually end up in any point in a predicament like that, fortunately.:p

That is blasphemey to the extreme. If I have my way, the Dutch flag-making industry will be the next to feel Allah's economic boost. Or the French flag-making industry, whichever is cheapest.

I guess the Luxemburgian one, people won't notice ;)

To the OP: It depends, is there beer in mecca?

Honestly, what do you think?:rolleyes:

Too much, really. You're better off trying to pass off as a man.

depends on the temperatures that time of year (whatever time if year it is). its pretty simple to don a black dress that covers me from head to toe and only shows my eyes.

to be a man id probably have to wear one of those impeccably white things that seem to never get dirty. id spill coffee on it my first cup and be revealed as an infidel (yes i think only infidels spill food or drink on their clothing while on the hajj)

Meh. These Muslim threads get on my nerves. I really can't find anything funny about them. I am waiting for the other shoe to drop.

But maybe I will be pleasantly surprised. I retract my previous post.

If they manage to get into that kind of situation, yes, they most certainly do. Hey, it is theoretically their own fault. Did I mention I don't like stupid people?:rolleyes:

Somehow, someway, this will turn into a reply where I am actually called stupid and because of the logic, I somehow deserve to die. Just that I won't actually end up in any point in a predicament like that, fortunately.:p

You are stupid and deserve to die.

When would you like your public beheading?:p

Honestly, what do you think?:rolleyes:

I'm thinking that Allah is a party dude, and he will most definately have beer in mecca.

Is that accurate?

Having lived there, I have to say that the people there are normal, if somewhat conservative. Yes, it's amazing, someone has finally said Saudi people are not a bunch of gun-totting Jihad freaks who chops people's body parts at a moment's notice.

It's the regime that's fucked up. If you look up the country's history during the sixties and seventies, they were relatively secular and on the way to modernity. I don't know how they got screwed up along the way.

I'm thinking that Allah is a party dude, and he will most definately have beer in mecca.

Is that accurate?

Nah, man, you're thinking Buddha. Allah is totally square, dude.

You are stupid and deserve to die.

When would you like your public beheading?:p

Having already created the logical note and made any such comment redundant, I automatically nullify any online textual attempts on my life. Sort of like the 'nana-boo-boo' force field when you were younger. :)

Now, then, where would you like your public execuetion, infidel? :D

Nah, man, you're thinking Buddha. Allah is totally square, dude.

No beer no pilgrimage. Do buddhists have pilgrimages?

I guess the Luxemburgian one, people won't notice ;)

For people living in a continent with so much history and culture, Europeans seem quite the unimaginative lot when it comes to flags.

No beer no pilgrimage. Do buddhists have pilgrimages?

Pilgrimages in your mind, man. Far out, dude. Peace, love and all that cool shit...:fluffle:

Pilgrimages in your mind, man. Far out, dude. Peace, love and all that cool shit...:fluffle:

*imagines Beer and drinks it*... nah not working.

*imagines Beer and drinks it*... nah not working.

That's because desire is the cause of your suffering. Don't desire the beer, let it desire you. Then, it will suffer and you will enjoy it. Or something like that.

Pilgrimages in your mind, man. Far out, dude. Peace, love and all that cool shit...:fluffle:

You won't risk being killed in a stampede like you could if you go to Mecca in pilgrimage. ;)

That's because desire is the cause of your suffering. Don't desire the beer, let it desire you. Then, it will suffer and you will enjoy it. Or something like that.

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fuck that

Got any other Gods that love Beer?

Honestly, what do you think?:rolleyes:
I know for a fact that there is a truck stop near Khafji that sells O'Douls. I also know that there is a liter container of vodka somewhere between Khafji and the Kuwait City airport.

To be a good Muslim, you must never fail to support the corporate underdog, whether in international coffee shop chains or other business. In any case, Allah prefers Tully's Coffee.

You claim to know Him a lot, kid.

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fuck that

Got any other Gods that love Beer?

I don't think any of the Hindu gods have anything against beer.

For people living in a continent with so much history and culture, Europeans seem quite the unimaginative lot when it comes to flags.

The dutch were first, so blame the french :D (the luxemburgians simply didn't bother when they broke away from us)

I don't think any of the Hindu gods have anything against beer.

You always got those ancient wine-drinking Greco-Roman Gods.

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fuck that

Got any other Gods that love Beer?

Some pagan god surely loves alcohol.

This thread has totally been hijacked... Like it's probably flying across the cyber highway right now.

Some pagan god surely loves alcohol.

You lot might be thinking of Dionysius, if you are shopping for a comforting infidel fantasy to accompany you to your eternal torment.

You always got those ancient wine-drinking Greco-Roman Gods.
When it comes right down to it, there are plenty of gods that don't mind a good brew. I've never quite figured out why it's simple drinking and not drunkenness that gets banned.

Right now, you can't visit Mecca unless you're a Muslim.

So I won't be visiting, unless we nuke it first. I would have to wait for the induced radiation zone to cool off first, though.

Right now, you can't visit Mecca unless you're a Muslim.

So I won't be visiting, unless we nuke it first. I would have to wait for the induced radiation zone to cool off first, though.

I guess you won't ride with my armored cav then. :mad:

Nuking is teh wimpy way.

I guess you won't ride with my armored cav then. :mad:

Nuking is teh wimpy way.

Armored cav would be fine, as long as we shoot anything that moves.

I guess you won't ride with my armored cav then. :mad:

Nuking is teh wimpy way.

Don't know about that... I always figured that it was a one-way flight if you had to deliver the nuke with an Intruder. Thank McDonnell-Douglas for cruise missiles. Excuse me, that would be Raytheon these days.

Armored cav would be fine, as long as we shoot anything that moves.

No man can do very wrong if he shoots at the enemy. I paraphrase, of course.

I will add a poll soon; I am curious at what ages you made your pilgrimage to Mecca (or Hajj), or intend to make it. You may post your stories in the meantime.Crap! I'm the only non-infidel?!

Actually.. I fucked up on the poll. I went a few years ago, but it wasn't a pilgrimage. I'm heathen to the bone, I fear.

Right now, you can't visit Mecca unless you're a Muslim.

So I won't be visiting, unless we nuke it first. I would have to wait for the induced radiation zone to cool off first, though.

Because if you threatend to nuke any other city, you're totally not a crazy son-of-a-bitch. If you nuke Mecca, you're a genuine muslim-terrorsit-killing hero. [/sarcastic]

Don't know about that... I always figured that it was a one-way flight if you had to deliver the nuke with an Intruder. Thank McDonnell-Douglas for cruise missiles. Excuse me, that would be Raytheon these days.

I would guess back in the McDonnell-Douglass days it was a one way flight for everyone.

Anyway, I abhor nuclear weapons. Don't get me wrong, as long as they exist I'm glad my side has them, but I wish they didn't exist.

Don't know about that... I always figured that it was a one-way flight if you had to deliver the nuke with an Intruder. Thank McDonnell-Douglas for cruise missiles. Excuse me, that would be Raytheon these days.

That's what the chute on the B-61 bomb is for - you drop it at low altitude and high subsonic speed, and the chute pulls it not only rearward, but the bomb then actually climbs.

You fly straight away, and the bomb slowly descends for a soft landing, and a ground level detonation, often with a delay that is measured in minutes.

That's what the chute on the B-61 bomb is for - you drop it at low altitude and high subsonic speed, and the chute pulls it not only rearward, but the bomb then actually climbs.

You fly straight away, and the bomb slowly descends for a soft landing, and a ground level detonation, often with a delay that is measured in minutes.

Okay, why did the thread turn into a "procedures for wanton murder of innocents" thread?

That's what the chute on the B-61 bomb is for - you drop it at low altitude and high subsonic speed, and the chute pulls it not only rearward, but the bomb then actually climbs.

You fly straight away, and the bomb slowly descends for a soft landing, and a ground level detonation, often with a delay that is measured in minutes.
Picture this...An A-6 flies toward Mecca with a special weapon. It releases that weapon and does whatever it takes to make it's egress. We could almost hit 500 Kts on a real good day, with real good engines. The blast wave travels at the speed of sound. How long before the aircrew -- blinded by the flash because we don't have F-111 gold canopies -- are overtaken by the overpressure? Near the ground. At night.

Not good odds no matter what type of weapon.

Okay, why did the thread turn into a "procedures for wanton murder of innocents" thread?

Because the only good Muslim...

That's what you wanted to hear, isn't it?

Okay, why did the thread turn into a "procedures for wanton murder of innocents" thread?

Like I said, if you kill muslims, you're a hero, because they're all terrorists! Islam is evil and their holy sites must be destroyed so they can no longer lay their eggs and hatch their unholy terrorist minions from their shrine in Mecca! [/sarcastic]

Because the only good Muslim...

That's what you wanted to hear, isn't it?

...that's what you wanted to say, isn't it?

Honestly, if you and RO are going to fap together about how thrilling you find the prospect of killing Muslims, you should get a room so no one here has to clean up the mess.

Picture this...An A-6 flies toward Mecca with a special weapon. It releases that weapon and does whatever it takes to make it's egress. We could almost hit 500 Kts on a real good day, with real good engines. The blast wave travels at the speed of sound. How long before the aircrew -- blinded by the flash because we don't have F-111 gold canopies -- are overtaken by the overpressure? Near the ground. At night.

Not good odds no matter what type of weapon.

Yah, but not to pick: why would anyone send an A-6 for that? It's sort of an end of the world scenario, isn't it?

Also, what altitude are you dropping that from, and what altitude does it detonate?

Because the only good Muslim...

That's what you wanted to hear, isn't it?

No, that's what you wanted to say. It's not true, either, though it is what you think.

I see no reason to go there. Besides, I would not even go to anywhere in Saudi Arabia until the fundamentalist sexist authoritarian regime is gone and replaced with a liberal democracy.

Yah, but not to pick: why would anyone send an A-6 for that? It's sort of an end of the world scenario, isn't it?

Beats the hell out of me, but it was a real consideration.

Also, what altitude are you dropping that from, and what altitude does it detonate?
I'm going to have to refer you to Jane's or something for the rest of the answer. I think I'm still bound by my pledge of silence on those two.

I see no reason to go there. Besides, I would not even go to anywhere in Saudi Arabia until the fundamentalist sexist authoritarian regime is gone and replaced with a liberal democracy.Or untill you're dead an accidentally dropped out the hold of some cargo plane in a freak accident. Sadly, I think the latter's more likely to be the case. Especially as long as there's freedom-loving US support to be had for the aristocracy.

Like I said, if you kill muslims, you're a hero, because they're all terrorists! Islam is evil and their holy sites must be destroyed so they can no longer lay their eggs and hatch their unholy terrorist minions from their shrine in Mecca! [/sarcastic]

I liked that one, it reminded me of Borat! :p

I see no reason to go there. Besides, I would not even go to anywhere in Saudi Arabia until the fundamentalist sexist authoritarian regime is gone and replaced with a liberal democracy.

Really? Does it really HAVE to be a liberal democracy? Can't it just be a democracy? It's never enough with you people.:p

I liked that one, it reminded me of Borat! :p

Thanks. Actually, yeah, it kind of does... Borat is amazing.:D I can actually do pretty impression of him...considering my ancestry is Uzbek(yes, I know he doesn't seem to like us:p), I should pay attention to what happens in my area of the world.:rolleyes:

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fuck that

Got any other Gods that love Beer?

The Flying Spaghetti Monster loves beer. His heaven even has a Beer Volcano (and a stripper factory)! RAmen!

When I get short on cash and need to collect on the I.O.U. I have from Mohammed.

He's about to learn the meaning of 1300 years of compound interest, the hard way. And to think, it started out as 2 bucks for a twinkie.

I want to sneak in to Mecca to see the Hajj like Sir Richard Burton...

Under two circumstances:

1) when I can buy a nice, fresh-made pulled pork sandwich with BBQ sauce, served by a waitress in a Hooters uniform
2) in a B-2.

Not sure which I prefer ;)

I'd like to see it but I'm not only not allowed in Saudi Arabia, they'd probably try to kill me...being Jewish and all.

Under two circumstances:

1) when I can buy a nice, fresh-made pulled pork sandwich with BBQ sauce, served by a waitress in a Hooters uniform
2) in a B-2.

Not sure which I prefer ;)

So, you prove that:

1- You can't afford a ham sandwich in Hooters;

2- You want to hijack military gear from your own country without orders.

3- You wish you were a murderer. Or could afford ham sandwiches.

Not sure which is the most disturbing about you.

1. This thread isn't worth flaming.
2. Have you read this guys posts? He's not serious, but his posts are fucking hilarious. I think he's been sigged at least once already.
Oh right. Good on him.:D
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And oh, Sadisco, I love you, man. At least, to the extent that love between men is permissible under Islam.

I'd like to see it but I'm not only not allowed in Saudi Arabia, they'd probably try to kill me...being Jewish and all.

You could sneak in with me. All we'd need to do is study Islam carefully and bluff our way in.

I will add a poll soon; I am curious at what ages you made your pilgrimage to Mecca (or Hajj), or intend to make it. You may post your stories in the meantime.

greetings fellow countrys im the republic of soxsomalley. my first reaction to mecca was that there would probably a lot of people devoted to prayer of one sort or another and although it may be shallow the picture oppourtunites would be great, i put 25-35 as im sure i'll have travelled a bit by then so will like to have future aim.

You could sneak in with me. All we'd need to do is study Islam carefully and bluff our way in.

"There's guards coming this way"

"Shit!" *rolls dice*

"Halt, who goes there."

"Nice try guys, I got a 25 on my bluff check. Now toddle off."

"Right then, carry on."

"There's guards coming this way"

"Shit!" *rolls dice*

"Halt, who goes there."

"Nice try guys, I got a 25 on my bluff check. Now toddle off."

"Right then, carry on."

*DM* It doesn't work like this, you have to come up with an excuse!

*Bard PC* Uhm... Okay, meat-shield, you do the talking.

*Fighter PC* I attack the one closest to me. Wiz, move out and put one to sleep, will ya?

*And on*

Okay, why did the thread turn into a "procedures for wanton murder of innocents" thread?
When Remote Observer joined it.

When Remote Observer joined it.

Not disputing what you said, but I asked "why", not "when".

Not disputing what you said, but I asked "why", not "when".

Because Remote Observer joined it. Happy?
:)

Because Remote Observer joined it.

Ah. Right.

Happy?
:)

Could be worse, could be better. ;)

http://www.themiddleeastnow.com/images/saudidisc.jpg

Do they have to make it any more clearer than that...HUH ???

Ah. Right.



Could be worse, could be better. ;)
Have a cookie - It's made of blasphemy...

http://www.themiddleeastnow.com/images/saudidisc.jpg

Do they have to make it any more clearer than that...HUH ???

What happens if you get lost, or don't speak Arabic or english?

Have a cookie - It's made of blasphemy...

Ooo, spicy!

What happens if you get lost, or don't speak Arabic or english?

The natives are either Arabic speaking or muslims or both.

The skilled immigrant workers from west speak English. The un-skilled immigrant workers from India, Pak etc are either muslim or English speaking.

So no worries, I guess.

The skilled immigrant workers from west speak English. The un-skilled immigrant workers from India, Pak etc are either muslim or English speaking.


That's not entirely true. (One of my families friends worked over there and he told me that there were quite a few Germans working with him).

So what actually is the penalty for driving down the wrong side if you are not a muslim?

Ooo, spicy!
I was all out of Cynicism and Heresy. My apologies.

I was all out of Cynicism and Heresy. My apologies.

You give me a cookie and you apologize now? I like spicy! ;)

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And oh, Sadisco, I love you, man. At least, to the extent that love between men is permissible under Islam.

Err ... below the belt is off-limits at the least, if I remember right, unless we're talking Sharia. But thanks.

That's not entirely true. (One of my families friends worked over there and he told me that there were quite a few Germans working with him).

So what actually is the penalty for driving down the wrong side if you are not a muslim?

I dunno...maybe a nominal fine..if they don't suspect intentional breaking of law..

flogging...if they suspect ill-will.

or maybe they will send some muslim to come into your religion's holy city (following the archaic eye-for-an-eye law system they still operate on).. :confused:

:p

You give me a cookie and you apologize now? I like spicy! ;)
As do I. I was merely apologizing for the lack of selection. There are different degrees of spicy, you know. Blasphemy is overt, almost overpowering if it were not for the lingering touch of pine. Cynicism is much more subtle, on the other hand, boasting a hint of steel and a lingering, slowly building heat. Heresy, of course, is a whole different experience. It attacks the senses from all angles, with flavours ranging from chocolate to raspberry...

I dunno...maybe a nominal fine..if they don't suspect intentional breaking of law..

flogging...if they suspect ill-will.

or maybe they will send some muslim to come into your religion's holy city (following the archaic eye-for-an-eye law system they still operate on).. :confused:

:p


They really should allow non muslims to go there. It would do a lot for their image.

I am a proud infidel.

raspberry...

Pthbthbhtbhtbhtbhtbhtbht!!!

;)

Err ... below the belt is off-limits at the least, if I remember right, unless we're talking Sharia. But thanks.

Y'know... There are a lot of things that can be done above the belt... *wink* *wink*

Pthbthbhtbhtbhtbhtbhtbht!!!

;)
Damnit man! I spent like... 5 minutes trying to come up with that. Show me some respect!:p

Well, based on how the U.S. turns on its Middle Eastern Allies, I suppose I'll be visiting Mecca when I get drafted and we invade.

Otherwise, I'll do what is always done in such situations: pull a Richard Francis Burton, and pretend to be a heathen for a little while.

Damnit man! I spent like... 5 minutes trying to come up with that. Show me some respect!:p

You don't get no respect! When you were a kid, you played Hide and Seek, and they didn't look for you! ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodney_Dangerfield

My armored divisions aren't ready yet. Once they are, Mecca will be the first to know.

Can i borrow a rifle and some hand grenades and ride on top of the tank and help clear the town out?

Can i borrow a rifle and some hand grenades and ride on top of the tank and help clear the town out?

Sure. Urban guerillas love easy targets.

Hehe. Mecca.

Really, I might go some day if the risk of being trampled or shot were a bit less. :p I'm no Muslim, but it would still be an interesting sight to see.

You don't get no respect! When you were a kid, you played Hide and Seek, and they didn't look for you! ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodney_Dangerfield
Ooh... It's raining out! Raining infidels!

The Lord Jesus Christ doesn't like His faithful to worship a rock in the middle of nowhere. ;)

The Lord Jesus Christ doesn't like His faithful to worship a rock in the middle of nowhere. ;)

Well, you don't really have to worship it just because you're there. :p I think I'd be more likely to go if I could actually see the rock itself, rather than the box around it, though, now that I think about it.

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fuck that

Got any other Gods that love Beer?

yes

Jesus


I like to think of Jesus as wearin' a Tuxedo T-shirt, 'cause it says, like, "I want to be formal, but I'm here to party too." I like to party, so I like my Jesus to party.

yes

Jesus

Nah, he always struck me as more of a wine guy.

I'm more interested in visiting Minsk than in visiting Mecca. Which is to say, not too much.

When have/will you visit Mecca?When there are more trees.

when i visit mecca i would be there not as a pilgrim but as a conquerer.

As a non-Muslim, I can't visit Mecca.

I know who the OP is. ;) He/she (won't say) makes me giggle a lot :D

That's what the chute on the B-61 bomb is for - you drop it at low altitude and high subsonic speed, and the chute pulls it not only rearward, but the bomb then actually climbs.

You fly straight away, and the bomb slowly descends for a soft landing, and a ground level detonation, often with a delay that is measured in minutes.

And maybe you'll volunteer to guide the bomb to Mecca yourself with the Slim Pickens Targeting System?

Yep, That's Our Kimchi. Can't get through a day about saying "Kill t3h 3b|1 /\/\05|3/\/\z!!!!!!!1111one"

Why would I visit a smelly, dirty, decaying old "city" like Mecca? I'd much rather visit a real, modern city like Berlin or Tokyo.

Not disputing what you said, but I asked "why", not "when".

Because Remote Eve Deep Sierra Whispering Legs BTHP Kimchi Online Observer is NSG's resident Islamicidal Bushevik. He can't get through a day without wanking off to the thought of dead Muslims.

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fuck that

Got any other Gods that love Beer?

Odin! Odin!

And maybe you'll volunteer to guide the bomb to Mecca yourself with the Slim Pickens Targeting System?

Yep, That's Our Kimchi. Can't get through a day about saying "Kill t3h 3b|1 /\/\05|3/\/\z!!!!!!!1111one"

You take this stuff way to seriously dude.

As a non-Muslim, I can't visit Mecca.

You could always fib a bit. ;)

You take this stuff way to seriously dude.

Sounds like Bushevik talk to me. :mad: I say he isn't taking it half as seriously as he should.

:p

when i visit mecca i would be there not as a pilgrim but as a conquerer.

That's like saying "when I have sex with X it won't be as a lover, but as a rapist".

The infidels have thoroughly owned this poll.

You take this stuff way to seriously dude.

He is obsessed with Kimchi.

The infidels have thoroughly owned this poll.

*does infidely things*

*does infidely things*

I'll fry the bacon, you get us some Playboy magazines.

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fuck that

Got any other Gods that love Beer?

http://www.hinduhumanrights.org/images/Gallery/GaneshOnBeer.jpg

Nobody gets to conquer Mecca. My orbital station of doom (a.k.a. the Zeus Cannon, no, those Final Fantasy geeks stole my name) has those coordinates already set.

If i get a ICBM ... ASAP.

"There's guards coming this way"

"Shit!" *rolls dice*

"Halt, who goes there."

"Nice try guys, I got a 25 on my bluff check. Now toddle off."

"Right then, carry on."

Everyone knows charisma is the dump stat anyways...

Everyone knows charisma is the dump stat anyways...

Depends on your class.

I will add a poll soon; I am curious at what ages you made your pilgrimage to Mecca (or Hajj), or intend to make it. You may post your stories in the meantime.

I would prefer it if someone removed the Tomb of Mohammed, put it in a secure area and use it as leverage against organisations like Al Queda. One could for instance have a pig urinate against it every time they place a bomb.

Other than that, people get trampled during the Hajj daily. This would solve that.

Depends on your class.

Dashing swordsman.

Why are you calling me a infidel?

Why are you calling me a infidel?

Do you have faith?

I would prefer it if someone removed the Tomb of Mohammed, put it in a secure area and use it as leverage against organisations like Al Queda. One could for instance have a pig urinate against it every time they place a bomb.

So you're willing to defile a symbol that means something to ALL moderate Muslims around the world just to spite the extremists?

I like it. Shall we get a porn star to pleasure herself with a piece of THE Cross whenever Fred Phelps stages a demonstration?

Do you have faith?

I have a religion i'm just not a muslim. Although muslimjs refer to those who don't follow there version of god i prefer the general term fo the word :
An infidel (literally, "one without faith") is one who doubts or rejects central tenets of a religion, especially those regarding its deities. More generally, an infidel is one who doubts or rejects a particular doctrine, system, or principle. The word infidel derives its meaning from the Latin root infidēlis[2]; a notion of being unfaithful or treacherous.

I made the mistake calling myself a "fellow Saracen on a crusade."

Not a good day.

I have a religion i'm just not a muslim. Although muslimjs refer to those who don't follow there version of god

They usually don't.

So you're willing to defile a symbol that means something to ALL moderate Muslims around the world just to spite the extremists?

I like it. Shall we get a porn star to pleasure herself with a piece of THE Cross whenever Fred Phelps stages a demonstration?

Well It might actually work to bring the extremists to the negotiation table ..
Or just really piss them of.

I like it. Shall we get a porn star to pleasure herself with a piece of THE Cross whenever Fred Phelps stages a demonstration?

Yes. But only if she is hot, and only if she puts it in her butt.

They usually don't.

Wikipedia said that the muslim term of infidel means "one who doesn't follow there version of god or the teachings of Muhammed"

Well It might actually work to bring the extremists to the negotiation table ..
Or just really piss them all, including the moderates, off, which it would, for sure.

With some editions made by me, in Bold...

Yes. But only if she is hot, and only if she puts it in her butt.

Because the Constitution of the United States would be in her other side whenever the US did something wrong? Splendid!

Do any of you see the final consequences of these ideas?

Wikipedia said that the muslim term of infidel means "one who doesn't follow there version of god or the teachings of Muhammed"

"People of the book" when it's Christians or Jewish people...

Do any of you see the final consequences of these ideas?

Only me having a good time with rosy if she is hot enough.

So you're willing to defile a symbol that means something to ALL moderate Muslims around the world just to spite the extremists?

Oh, I definately do not wish to defile it. And assuming Al Queada does not either - or if the Muslem world itself would make sure he can't give me cause - I won't have to.
Everybody happy.

I like it. Shall we get a porn star to pleasure herself with a piece of THE Cross whenever Fred Phelps stages a demonstration?

Only if it has the Holy Foreskin on top. Other Christians are of course allowed to stop Phelps so she will not have to.

Hmm. The declaration of independence may also be worth holding hostage in this manner. Maybe an even trade ?

Oh, I definately do not wish to defile it. And assuming Al Queada does not either - or if the Muslem world itself would make sure he can't give me cause - I won't have to.
Everybody happy.



Only if it has the Holy Foreskin on top. Other Christians are of course allowed to stop Phelps so she will not have to.

Hmm. The declaration of independence may also be worth holding hostage in this manner. Maybe an even trade ?

Well, you're coherent. Insane, but coherent.

I like it. Shall we get a porn star to pleasure herself with a piece of THE Cross whenever Fred Phelps stages a demonstration?

Hey, it worked against abortion protestors! Abortion clinics got people to 'sponsor a protestor' so they donated a certain amount of money to the clinic for every protestor who turned up on any particular day. The clinic then put a sign outside the gate saying: "Your protests have raised $X this month, thank you for your support."

It was surprisingly effective IIRC. :p

Everyone knows charisma is the dump stat anyways...

Unless your character is a sorcerer, then it's the primary attribute.

Unless your character is a sorcerer, then it's the primary attribute.

Bard, too. It is somewhat important to Paladins and Clerics as well, and, sometimes, Rogues. Mind you, I play with Wizards. My dump stat tends to be Strength.

Hey, it worked against abortion protestors! Abortion clinics got people to 'sponsor a protestor' so they donated a certain amount of money to the clinic for every protestor who turned up on any particular day. The clinic then put a sign outside the gate saying: "Your protests have raised $X this month, thank you for your support."

It was surprisingly effective IIRC. :p

Well, there's a difference between defiling a religion's holiest symbol and giving money to a clinic. Guess which?

Though I DID like the idea in the protesters' case.

when i visit mecca i would be there not as a pilgrim but as a conquerer.on your own? i wanna see that.

on your own? i wanna see that.

Nice move!

Well, you're coherent. Insane, but coherent.

And not entirely serious ;) Though I admit I like consistency and coherence more than "common sense".
Still... would make an interesting world, would it not ? The USA possessing the body of Mohammed, the Muslems owning the declaration of indepedence and the Israelis the original cross. Talks may even be fruitful.

And not entirely serious ;)
Still... would make an interesting world, would it not ? The USA possessing the body of Mohammed, the Muslems owning the declaration of indepedence and the original cross. Talks may even be fruitful.

Problem is, each country would need to have about 197 important symbols. Including the ones for separatist movements, it'd be like 220 symbols to burn, defile, poop on and so on. Plus, imagine this: The US are pissed off at Kazakhstan. However they make a mistake and the remains of an UZBEK (Not Kazakh) national hero are fed to the President's cat. Result, a war with Uzbekistan by mistake (or Thomas Jefferson's remains in Uzbekistan being used as manure).

Problem is, each country would need to have about 197 important symbols. Including the ones for separatist movements, it'd be like 220 symbols to burn, defile, poop on and so on. Plus, imagine this: The US are pissed off at Kazakhstan. However they make a mistake and the remains of an UZBEK (Not Kazakh) national hero are fed to the President's cat. Result, a war with Uzbekistan by mistake (or Thomas Jefferson's remains in Uzbekistan being used as manure).

Aaaah. May we live in interesting times :)

Unless your character is a sorcerer, then it's the primary attribute.

Yeah, that's true. Personally, I feel wizards are better overall, but sorcerers provide an interesting campaign angle. Especially if you bring the Red Wizards in to it...

93.52% of you guys are infidels...xD

Aaaah. May we live in interesting times :)

Question. What would happen when the symbols ran out? Or when the only symbols there were were of countries that had no shot at having a beef with one another, like Switzerland, Palau, Jamaica, Mongolia and Lesotho?

When they open it up to non-muslims and I had enough money I'd go and see it.

Yeah, that's true. Personally, I feel wizards are better overall, but sorcerers provide an interesting campaign angle. Especially if you bring the Red Wizards in to it...

Wizards are excellent if well-played, good if decently played, horrible if poorly played.

Sorcerers are good if well-played, good if decently played, and good if poorly played.

Question. What would happen when the symbols ran out? Or when the only symbols there were were of countries that had no shot at having a beef with one another, like Switzerland, Palau, Jamaica, Mongolia and Lesotho?

We would need to invent some new ones. Enter Mr Hanky, the sacred Christmas poo, and the holy Noodle.
However, I estimate we can use this tactic for a few decades. By then we are supposed to have problems like severe shortages of fossil fuels and being generally fucked anyway. Might as well move towards that in an interesting way.

We would need to invent some new ones. Enter Mr Hanky, the sacred Christmas poo, and the holy Noodle.
However, I estimate we can use this tactic for a few decades. By then we are supposed to have problems like severe shortages of fossil fuels and being generally fucked anyway. Might as well move towards that in an interesting way.

"They stepped on our Christmas Poo! THAT MEANS WAR!!!"

Yeah, I can see that.

Yeah, that's true. Personally, I feel wizards are better overall, but sorcerers provide an interesting campaign angle. Especially if you bring the Red Wizards in to it...

I again point at the dashing swordsman prestige class. It even gives you immunity to shattering glass ;)

"They stepped on our Christmas Poo! THAT MEANS WAR!!!"

You mean: "LETS EAT THEIR NOODLES !"

Infidel? Wow, nice options... :rolleyes: trolling much?

With religious fanatics like these, who needs the Christian right? These guys go the whole nine yards! :D

Hmmm... now that would be a pissing contest - who can be more of a prick? Extremist Muslims or the Christian religious right? That would make for a good reality show. Round up a crew of them and put them all on a deserted island and watch the mayhem unfold! :)

You mean: "LETS EAT THEIR NOODLES !"

TONIGHT!!! WE DINE NOODLES!!! IN HELL!!!

TONIGHT!!! WE DINE NOODLES!!! IN HELL!!!

No thanks.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b283/jtkwon/1174120752307.jpg

TONIGHT!!! WE DINE NOODLES!!! IN HELL!!!

Hades, please ;)

Infidel? Wow, nice options... :rolleyes: trolling much?

With religious fanatics like these, who needs the Christian right? These guys go the whole nine yards! :D

Hmmm... now that would be a pissing contest - who can be more of a prick? Extremist Muslims or the Christian religious right? That would make for a good reality show. Round up a crew of them and put them all on a deserted island and watch the mayhem unfold! :)

Can't we put them all on said island? :p

come on, come on, you knew it was going to be said

Can't we put them all on said island? :p

come on, come on, you knew it was going to be said

Better yet... why don't we put ALL religious zealots on the moon. Station a few cameras around the planet and watch it all unfold? ;)

Hades, please ;)

It's Hades? I didn't watch the movie.

I would prefer it if someone removed the Tomb of Mohammed, put it in a secure area and use it as leverage against organisations like Al Queda. One could for instance have a pig urinate against it every time they place a bomb.

Other than that, people get trampled during the Hajj daily. This would solve that.



Dashing swordsman.

Well, only if you can come up with a witty quip or catch phrase each time you strike!

It's Hades? I didn't watch the movie.

No, it's Hell.

It's Hades? I didn't watch the movie.

No, he says hell in the movie. Hades would just have been more historically correct.

No, he says hell in the movie. Hades would just have been more historically correct.

Well, of course, but I'm using the movie. :p

Why has Soviestan chaged his name, and become more stooooooopid than before?

Spoiler, I'm not this guy.

LOL I love the poll results. :p

I am not muslim,but i do plan on one day visiting mecca.

Probably, but I don't see that in the near future,...

I drink alcohol (I'm posting this under the influence of said substance), I smoke weed (though my last hit was years ago, I wouldn't say that I'm... reformed), I like sex (and not the marital kind of sex), I almost never do the five times a day Salat, and in the four fridays a month, I only did at most 2 Jumu'ahs... the only thing I do perfectly is the Ramadan fast,... fasting is easy, and I don't eat any porcine products... knowingly (that's the caveat,... if a food tastes good,... then don't ask,... don't tell).

Oh yeah,... the OP sucks.

I am not muslim,but i do plan on one day visiting mecca.

Non muslims are not allowed to enter Mecca.

That's like saying "when I have sex with X it won't be as a lover, but as a rapist".

your comparison was more retarded than my post. and overall this entire thread sucks.

Mecca is a Jewish Conspiracy.

Even if the OP is a suspected troll...the opening post is fine. Or is anything related to Islam so inherently offensive that you have to react with scorn?

Even if the OP is a suspected troll...the opening post is fine. Or is anything related to Islam so inherently offensive that you have to react with scorn?

Apart from that it assumes everyone reading does intend to make the pilgrimage, or that they are infidels. That would be rather offensive, if he wasn't a troll. You might want to drop 'suspected' if you look at his thread about Israel. Pure gold there. :p

Non muslims are not allowed to enter Mecca.

I could get get in...I'M BATMAN!!!!

I could get get in...I'M BATMAN!!!!

BATS ARE THE SPAWNS OF SATAN

I've never been there, and I'm not Muslim. I believe that non-Muslims aren't even allowed in the city, either. But I'd love to go, because Islamic culture fascinates the hell out of me.

Non muslims are not allowed to enter Mecca.

Is there a Muslim ID card to verify, or something? If not, I could probably fake it, learn a few lines of Arabic, shave my head, etc. and pass. :p Could be fun!

Even if the OP is a suspected troll...the opening post is fine. Or is anything related to Islam so inherently offensive that you have to react with scorn?

The poll is pretty silly, regardless the first post. It's not islam, but the whole religious-intolerance trolling that's worth the mocking, I think. :p

Is there a Muslim ID card to verify, or something? If not, I could probably fake it, learn a few lines of Arabic, shave my head, etc. and pass. :p Could be fun!

Yeah, but what happens if anyone finds out?

Yeah, but what happens if anyone finds out?

Dunno.

Dunno.

You get stoned. No, not that kind. The painful kind of stoned.

You get stoned. No, not that kind. The painful kind of stoned.

Maybe - then again, the pilgrimages there usually look pretty chaotic. It doesn't really look like you'd get caught, and even if you did, you could probably run off into the crowds. I'm pretty sure non-Muslims have done it. ;)

Maybe - then again, the pilgrimages there usually look pretty chaotic. It doesn't really look like you'd get caught, and even if you did, you could probably run off into the crowds. I'm pretty sure non-Muslims have done it. ;)

There are random checks at the entrance motorways. How exactly they check if someone is truly a muslim I do not know - but I assume Koran knowledge is involved.
But yes, nonmuslims have no doubt done it.

i'm not planning on visiting mecca, but i may someday visit the shrine of the bab in acca/haifa. or the baha'i temple in willmette.

not that any of those are reall likely, but all are, i suppose possible.

beliefs aren't really all that much my thing, although i see nothing against whatever invisible friends, great or small, singular or multiple, we may happen to have.

and i'm certainly in favor of anything that encourages anyone to want to avoid causing suffering.

i do feel somewhat closer to what seems to me more inhierently spiritual, alone in a wilderness, then in the company of human gatherings.

=^^=
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Well I am an atheist, but I understand the importance of Mecca in Islam, as far as I know every Muslim is required to visit Mecca at least once in their religious lives, should health and money permit them to do so. I am big on historical sites the world over, Mecca would surely be on my list next to Versailles, Red Square, Eiffel Tower etc.

On another note, the disrespectful hijacking and deriding of Islam in his read is disgusting even to me.

On another note, the disrespectful hijacking and deriding of Islam in his read is disgusting even to me.

It was prompted by the word infidel and the latest attempts of some muslems to blow up thousands of innocent people. Emotion over reason.

On another note, the disrespectful hijacking and deriding of Islam in his read is disgusting even to me.

As if you hadn't noticed, The Sadisco Room is a troll riding on the popular 3b|1 /\/\05|3/\/\ stereotype that the majority of NSG loves to see like a minstrel show.

On another note, the disrespectful hijacking and deriding of Islam in his read is disgusting even to me.

Everybody sing the "I don't care" song!

Is there a Muslim ID card to verify, or something? If not, I could probably fake it, learn a few lines of Arabic, shave my head, etc. and pass. :p Could be fun!

Actually I've heard many get a letter from their local Mosque stating that they are in fact Muslim. If you are caught as a non-Muslim in Mecca the punishment I believe, is hanging.

Actually I've heard many get a letter from their local Mosque stating that they are in fact Muslim. If you are caught as a non-Muslim in Mecca the punishment I believe, is hanging.

That sounds about right. I believe the punishment for being a non-Catholic in the Vatican City is... being doomed to buying touristy crap like t-shirts.

Islam: the progressive religion.