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Police defuse London bomb

June 29, 2007 - 7:52PM

British police defused a bomb in an abandoned car in London's theatre district today and launched a counter-terrorism investigation.

The bomb, which Sky News quoted unidentified sources as saying was ``potentially massive'', was found inside a light green Mercedes left outside a nightclub in the early hours, a police officer quoted witnesses as saying.

The witnesses said the occupant drove ``erratically'' before smashing into some bins outside the nightclub and running off. Bouncers from the nightclub investigated, saw what looked like gas canisters inside the vehicle and called the police.

Officers sealed off the area at around 2am (0100 GMT) and found a bomb, the Metropolitan police said.

"They discovered what appeared to be a potentially viable explosive device. This was made safe," they said, adding that counter-terrorism officers were investigating.

The discovery came hours after new Prime Minister Gordon Brown named a cabinet to succeed Tony Blair. It posed a first major challenge for Brown's administration, and particularly his new home secretary, Jacqui Smith.

Ms Smith was to chair a meeting of the government's top emergency committee, Cobra, today, Mr Brown said.

"The first duty of a government is the security of the people and as the police and security services have said on so many occasions we face a serious and continued security threat to our country," Mr Brown, in his third day in office, told reporters.

"This incident does recall the need for us to be vigilant at all times and the public to be alert."

Security around parliament was stepped up, with police body-searching drivers of vehicles entering the compound.

The bomb alert came almost two years after a series of coordinated suicide bomb attacks on London's transport network killed 52 commuters, the first Islamist suicide bombings in western Europe. London has frequently been on edge since.

Terrorism experts said an al-Qaeda connection to the potential attack could not be dismissed.

"We couldn't rule it out," a security source said, noting that the threat from international Islamist terrorism was the main reason the official British threat level is placed at "severe", the second highest level.

"Numerically speaking, al-Qaeda is a strong possibility but it just is too early to attribute specifically.

"It would be wrong and short-sighted to rule out domestic options as well. Obviously there are various extremist groups out there too," the source added.

The MI5 intelligence agency said last year it believed Islamist radicals were plotting at least 30 major terrorist attacks in Britain and it was tracking some 1600 suspects.

A large area of central London around the scene, in the normally busy and popular theatre district, remained sealed off hours after the bomb was found. Officers at the scene said it could be several hours before the area was cleared.

Office workers unable to enter their buildings to start the work day milled outside, watching the police operation.

"We've been standing out here for a couple of hours," said David Way, 29, the director of a recruitment company based in the same street as where the car was abandoned. "I suspect we're going to hang around until lunchtime and see what happens."

A London Transport spokesman said Piccadilly underground station was closed and some bus services were also affected.

Haymarket is usually thronged with Londoners and tourists. It is close to Piccadilly Circus in an area packed with theatres, restaurants and pubs.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/police-defuse-london-bomb/2007/06/29/1182624155333.html

Spotted this earlier today. The jury's still out on who's behind this one, but as the article mentions the whole al-Qaeda thing, we're going to have the Government rounding up the usual suspects. One step closer to our own little Night of the Long Knives.

Spotted this earlier today. The jury's still out on who's behind this one, but as the article mentions the whole al-Qaeda thing, we're going to have the Government rounding up the usual suspects. One step closer to our own little Night of the Long Knives.

Well, Extremist Muslims would be the first to look at.

Not saying they did it though.

Who do you think was behind it?

From what I heard on CNN, the guy crashed and run out of the car instead of detonating his vehicle when he arrived where he did.

Seems rather like rather odd behavoir for a guy who was willing to kill himself in the first place.

From what I heard on CNN, the guy crashed and run out of the car instead of detonating his vehicle when he arrived where he did.

Seems rather like rather odd behavoir for a guy who was willing to kill himself in the first place.

Well then he obviously wasn't of the normal "suicide bomber" ilk. That suggests to me the bomber isn't a hardcore Al-Qaida type.

I suppose we should expect RO/Kimch/Eve to drop in today and post something to the effect, "You sure you still want to release the Gitmo detainees!? Because that's just what those terrorists will do once we let them out, and then you'll be sorry!"

Well then he obviously wasn't of the normal "suicide bomber" ilk. That suggests to me the bomber isn't a hardcore Al-Qaida type.

I suppose we should expect RO/Kimch/Eve to drop in today and post something to the effect, "You sure you still want to release the Gitmo detainees!? Because that's just what those terrorists will do once we let them out, and then you'll be sorry!"

I can't wait:D

Well then he obviously wasn't of the normal "suicide bomber" ilk. That suggests to me the bomber isn't a hardcore Al-Qaida type.

I suppose we should expect RO/Kimch/Eve to drop in today and post something to the effect, "You sure you still want to release the Gitmo detainees!? Because that's just what those terrorists will do once we let them out, and then you'll be sorry!"

What's the odds he could have just been some average joe driving around with 200 liters worth of propane?:D

If you're looking for excuses for the people who did this, I feel sorry for you.

What's the odds he could have just been some average joe driving around with 200 liters worth of propane?:D

I know, it could just be a huge misunderstanding! :)

Well I must say, kudos to the Metropolitan police for the quick response and defusal of the bomb. Let's hope they can catch the bomber and charge him to the fullest extent of the law.

If you're looking for excuses for the people who did this, I feel sorry for you.

What's that supposed to mean?

If you're looking for excuses for the people who did this, I feel sorry for you.

If you're talking to me, I pity you for not having a sense of humor.

If you're not, I don't know what you're talking about to begin with.

Who do you think was behind it?

maybe we could go for the IRA like the old days

Well then he obviously wasn't of the normal "suicide bomber" ilk. That suggests to me the bomber isn't a hardcore Al-Qaida type.

I think he was one of those types who get forced into it, I can't imagine a light green Mercedes being an ideal vehicle to blow up (he could of just given it too me and brought an Alfa romeo)

What's that supposed to mean?

It means that if the first thing you think when someone does something like this is "I'm sure they had a good reason" or "They were persecuted by the majority!", then you're a sad, sad person.

It means that if the first thing you think when someones does something like this is "I'm sure they had a good reason" or "They were persecuted by the majority!", then you're a sad, sad person.

I'm pretty sure he was making a joke...

Something along the lines of "wouldn't it be funny if...?"

It means that if the first thing you think when someones does something like this is "I'm sure they had a good reason" or "They were persecuted by the majority!", then you're a sad, sad person.

Er... I didn't say anything like that. Just because I haven't gone on a tirade about "eBIl M00slems1!! you mean to say that I am in fact insinuating that this bomber is some sort of oppressed, poor fellow that deserves my pity, enveloped in a world that conspires against him?

Nothing could be farther from the truth.

Let's hope they can catch the bomber and charge him to the fullest extent of the law.

It means that if the first thing you think when someones does something like this is "I'm sure they had a good reason" or "They were persecuted by the majority!", then you're a sad, sad person.

um...would being brainwashed by some stupid cause be a good reason?

um...would being brainwashed by some stupid cause be a good reason?

Not unless it was genuine CIA-style brainwashing.

Not unless it was genuine CIA-style brainwashing.

Religious brainwashing can be just as effective though.

If something is drilled in your head from birth, if its repeated time and time again as you grow older, if your most trusted family members continue to parade it as truth, if you percieve it when you read history, when you watch television, then you most likely will end up believing it.

Religious brainwashing can be just as effective though.

If something is drilled in your head from birth, if its repeated time and time again as you grow older, if your most trusted family members continue to parade it as truth, if you percieve it when you read history, when you watch television, then you most likely will end up believing it.

a la Westboro Baptist Church

Not unless it was genuine CIA-style brainwashing.

ah all terrorists aren't evil then just normal people caught up in our crazy world :)

*lollygag's in thread until RO arrives*

Religious brainwashing can be just as effective though.

If something is drilled in your head from birth, if its repeated time and time again as you grow older, if your most trusted family members continue to parade it as truth, if you percieve it when you read history, when you watch television, then you most likely will end up believing it.

Not good enough. Humans can think for themselves.

Not good enough. Humans can think for themselves.

They base their outlook on life on the information they take in. If the only information they get is religious ideology they'll start to believe it

Humans can think for themselves.

and what possible proof do you have for that silly theory?

and what possible proof do you have for that silly theory?

The fact that we're not all still serving kings and emperors.

The fact that we're not all still serving kings and emperors.

where not now?

and popular revolution is hardly a good example no?

Not good enough. Humans can think for themselves.

No, STRONG WILLED human beings can think for themselves.

For example, the Benoit Family Death. Even with evidence pointing towards a murder-suicide, people are still willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. Why?

Because humans are sheep, and if from the get go you are told that "Teh Americanz & Teh Ebil JOOS are evil and are to be destroyed" then that is what you will grow up knowing and believing.

From what I heard on CNN, the guy crashed and run out of the car instead of detonating his vehicle when he arrived where he did.

Seems rather like rather odd behavoir for a guy who was willing to kill himself in the first place.

An ambulance was called for someone in the nightclub opposite. On arrival there was a smoking car which was called into the police in the early hours this morning. It was manually disabled and in the car was a large quantity of petrol and nails along with gas cannisters according to the man in charge of the investigation. He's just given a press conference

Even if this bomber was indeed "brainwashed" by his religion and family, he is still ultimately responsible for his actions.

The fact that we're not all still serving kings and emperors.

Aren't we? Just because they may no longer calls themselves "Kings & Emperors" and they may have changed their means to attain power does not seperate them entirely from being "Kings & Emperors".

Even if this bomber was indeed brainwashed by his religion and family, he is still ultimately responsible for his actions.

Off Course he is.

But lets not try and play it off that the odds weren't stacked against him.

You grow up in a family full of racist, there is a good chance you might become one.

You grow up in a family full of extremist, fundamentalist muslims, there is a good chance you might become one.

I'm not saying that he isn't responsible for his actions.

Aren't we? Just because they may no longer calls themselves "Kings & Emperors" and they may have changed their means to attain power does not seperate them entirely from being "Kings & Emperors".

Despite the fact that we can oust them every four years?

Besides, we don't serve them. Most people hate their leaders.

Apparently Blair will try anything to mess up Gordon's first day as PM. ;)

Even if this bomber was indeed "brainwashed" by his religion and family, he is still ultimately responsible for his actions.

however no more so than a poor kid caught up in crime, same result more or less same causes

Despite the fact that we can oust them every four years?

Besides, we don't serve them. Most people hate their leaders.

First of all, we don't oust them every four years. Their term ends, its completely voluntary.

Secondly, If we could oust are leaders (truly, not in theory) Bush would've been gone long ago.

Third, Hating your leader doesn't mean a thing if you can't get them out of their position of power.

From what I heard on CNN, the guy crashed and run out of the car instead of detonating his vehicle when he arrived where he did.

Seems rather like rather odd behavoir for a guy who was willing to kill himself in the first place.

They find them chained to the steering wheels in Iraq sometimes. Not the most reliable group. ;)

however no more so than a poor kid caught up in crime, same result more or less same causes

You could say the same for some former German Wehrmacht junior officers and soldiers that commited war crimes. If they did, they were war criminals, and would only get away with it if they won the war. If they didn't they'd somehow have to avoid being shot by thier seniors.

Despite the fact that we can oust them every four years?

puppet on left or puppet on right, yeah power to the masses indeed so long as your willing to use bogeymen and give your payers anything they want that is...

Besides, we don't serve them. Most people hate their leaders.

so long as you do it without any actions yes, now try and have an environmental protest and see where it gets you

It's a Silver Merc not a light Green one... Why don't you use BBC News... It's a very old Merc as well.

Also as for the Al Quieda link... no ones said it's been them... Heck it's great how theres a random 'tip off' how do you know it wasn't a black books Goverment op? :mp5:

There was 60 litres of petrol in the car as well... woulda made a big boom...

And It was the Tiger Tiger Club... I wanna go there for me B-Day ina month... no-one better blow it up or ima be pissed...

You could say the same for some former German Wehrmacht junior officers and soldiers that commited war crimes.

yes and its very true, unless of course they where all evil aliens or something

It's a Silver Merc not a light Green one... Why don't you use BBC News... It's a very old Merc as well.

Also as for the Al Quieda link... no ones said it's been them... Heck it's great how theres a random 'tip off' how do you know it wasn't a black books Goverment op? :mp5:

There was 60 litres of petrol in the car as well... woulda made a big boom...

And It was the Tiger Tiger Club... I wanna go there for me B-Day ina month... no-one better blow it up or ima be pissed...

Nightclubs are usually a pretty good indication Muslims were involved. Music and dancing and all that evilness tends to piss them off. :p

meh

Nightclubs are usually a pretty good indication Muslims were involved. Music and dancing and all that evilness tends to piss them off. :p

Uh huh? Couldn't just be a large number of people makes a good target?

Anyway, by the sounds of it, the driver might have been going somewhere else - doesn't seem to have been entirely with it.

maybe we could go for the IRA like the old days

The papists heretics of Ireland are trying to bring chaos to the good clean protestant England.

Vengance I say! Vengance in the name of the Empire!

Uh huh? Couldn't just be a large number of people makes a good target?

Anyway, by the sounds of it, the driver might have been going somewhere else - doesn't seem to have been entirely with it.

There's large numbers of people all over. ;)

There's large numbers of people all over. ;)

Not at 2:00am there aren't - for the Tiger Tiger up here, 2am is chucking out time, however.

Not at 2:00am there aren't - for the Tiger Tiger up here, 2am is chucking out time, however.

Anything's possible - it just doesn't smell like coincidence to me. :p Here's hoping it was though, I guess.

I'm watching the news now... they're saying that it was parked... wasn't being driven erraticly... also the fuses were shite thats why It didn't blow.

Ambulance Crew called it in as well.

Bomb was made up of Petrol (60 litres) Several Gas Cylinders and a load of nails.

Cops who diffused the bomb were bloody brave thou... sounds like it was all just thrown together in the car...

Mean heck... tis totally mental...


(Title of this thread is funny... 'A Bomb' diffused in London lol)

Uh huh? Couldn't just be a large number of people makes a good target?

I tend to agree with this trend of thought.:p

Not at 2:00am there aren't - for the Tiger Tiger up here, 2am is chucking out time, however.


It's Haymarket mate... even at 2am there are people all over the place... right in the middle of London where all the clubs are...

It's Haymarket mate... even at 2am there are people all over the place... right in the middle of London where all the clubs are...

Fair enough - never been down that way. BBC says smoke seen at 1.00am, and the car was parked, so I'll shut up and wait and see.

1 more thing...

Unlikely it's IRA... IRA gave warnings about there bombs... they would have admitted it was them by now...

1 more thing...

Unlikely it's IRA... IRA gave warnings about there bombs... they would have admitted it was them by now...

Oh yeah, they've got a cushy deal these days - almost certainly not them. Those Cornish Separatists, however...

1 more thing...

Unlikely it's IRA... IRA gave warnings about there bombs... they would have admitted it was them by now...

Not IRA

Maybe Real IRA

Probably just some nut

No point pointing fingers until we know

Oh yeah, they've got a cushy deal these days - almost certainly not them. Those Cornish Separatists, however...

Its a bit of a leap from setting fire to an abandoned building wouldn't you say.

Christ... the've got a good couple of roads shut off...

I live in London (South London) and go to the city center alot... the whole area should be swarming with people... all the Offices, Shops & Resturants are closed... like a whole shopping center is shut down! Planet Hollywood is closed as well!

Tis daft... not a great deal of Forensic material that can be collected... take huge amounts of man hours to shift thru all the material from bins, drains, loos etc...

Its a bit of a leap from setting fire to an abandoned building wouldn't you say.
Which is why I'm not serious... :p

No point pointing fingers until we know

:eek: it was you!

the daily mirror should be over in a few minutes with some rope :p

:eek: it was you!

the daily mirror should be over in a few minutes with some rope :p

No, I'm white and British so I'm safe from the Mirror

Hrmmm.... they saying that the Car may have just been parked over night to be moved on to somewhere else tommorow.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/newsid_6250000/newsid_6253400/6253472.stm?bw=bb&mp=rm

Link to the press conference given by the man in charge of the investigation

No point pointing fingers until we know

That's true. No need to be rash.

*cougharabscough* :p

Oh yeah, they've got a cushy deal these days - almost certainly not them. Those Cornish Separatists, however...
Heh, those guys couldn't find their arses with both hands. There's sod-all in Cornwall apart from beaches and scenic views.

Which in itself isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Awwww.... crappy...

The media have started blaiming the inteligence services...

Tell me.

How on earth could anyone pick up a few mates who go out buy petrol, nails and gas cylinders load them into a car and drive into london? It's imposible to detect!

They deserve our praise... they did catch the bombers with the ton of fertilizer who were going to blow up the MOS club!

Heh, those guys couldn't find their arses with both hands. There's sod-all in Cornwall apart from beaches and scenic views.

Which in itself isn't necessarily a bad thing.

I always thought that's where the mines were. :confused:

Then again, I've never been to England.

I always thought that's where the mines were. :confused:

Then again, I've never been to England.
The old tin mines were there, but that was a dying industry by the 1900s. Most of the proper coal mines were in the North and in Wales.

The old tin mines were there, but that was a dying industry by the 1900s. Most of the proper coal mines were in the North and in Wales.

Ah, that might explain it. A good percentage of the Cornish that came here ended up in mining, at any rate.

Christ... they say that the bomb coulda taken out Tiger Tiger... 500 odd people inside the club alone not counting people on the street...

The old tin mines were there, but that was a dying industry by the 1900s. Most of the proper coal mines were in the North and in Wales.

...and Nottinghamshire and Kent....

The old tin mines were there, but that was a dying industry by the 1900s. Most of the proper coal mines were in the North and in Wales.

Welsh separatists next?

That's true. No need to be rash.

*cougharabscough* :p

*coughinternationalelementscough*
*coughsynonymformuslimscough*

I fear there will, provided this is indeed an Al Quaeda operation, be more explosives in other locations. If memory serves, they tend to conduct operations with numerous explosions in concert.

Who else could it be, though? The Cornish? The worst they could do would be to stop producing pasties.

Who else could it be, though? The Cornish? The worst they could do would be to stop producing pasties.
Don't they make obnoxious sausages as well?

Well then he obviously wasn't of the normal "suicide bomber" ilk. That suggests to me the bomber isn't a hardcore Al-Qaida type.

I suppose we should expect RO/Kimch/Eve to drop in today and post something to the effect, "You sure you still want to release the Gitmo detainees!? Because that's just what those terrorists will do once we let them out, and then you'll be sorry!"

Wow- pre-emptive stupidity!!

Who else could it be, though? The Cornish? The worst they could do would be to stop producing pasties.

Or stop exporting those delicious game hens of theirs. :p

Don't they make obnoxious sausages as well?

They may well do, I just don't know. Wouldn't be too much of a loss is they stopped making them, if they did make them at all.

Well then he obviously wasn't of the normal "suicide bomber" ilk. That suggests to me the bomber isn't a hardcore Al-Qaida type.

Dunno, he could be a victim of the mess, basically coerced to drive it or face some kind of hideous consequence to his family or such. It's an increasingly popular tactic in Iraq.


I suppose we should expect RO/Kimch/Eve to drop in today and post something to the effect, "You sure you still want to release the Gitmo detainees!? Because that's just what those terrorists will do once we let them out, and then you'll be sorry!"

Really? Personally, I'm betting on something along the lines of "We need to sterilize all Muslims"

Welsh separatists next?
Good luck to 'em.

We should have built a wall, not a bridge :P

personally-I'm glad it was discovered and sucessfully dealt with before anyone was hurt.

Sounds like it could have caused substantial death,injury and misery.

Really? Personally, I'm betting on something along the lines of "We need to sterilize all Muslims"

At this point, I would be perfectly happy if we caught the people who planted this bomb, and had them publicly disemboweled, and their heads cut off and put on pikes at the Tower of London, and the bodies hung in chunks in Finsbury Park until the flesh fell off.

At this point, I would be perfectly happy if we caught the people who planted this bomb, and had them publicly disemboweled, and their heads cut off and put on pikes at the Tower of London, and the bodies hung in chunks in Finsbury Park until the flesh fell off.

Christ talk about scary things to say

At this point, I would be perfectly happy if we caught the people who planted this bomb, and had them publicly disemboweled, and their heads cut off and put on pikes at the Tower of London, and the bodies hung in chunks in Finsbury Park until the flesh fell off.

I hadn't thought of that.

My personal idea was to hold the families of the guilty hostage until they told the authorities everything, then publically hang them.

Christ talk about scary things to say

It used to be an English tradition to do that sort of thing. Peculiarly effective at scaring would-be imitators.

It used to be an English tradition to do that sort of thing. Peculiarly effective at scaring would-be imitators.

Yeah. Even if it were proved effective though, I doubt commuters would want to be looking at chunks of livid, rotting flesh as they made their way to work each morning. :p Something a bit more discrete, maybe.

It used to be an English tradition to do that sort of thing. Peculiarly effective at scaring would-be imitators.

England used to be into lots of things that scare me a little bit. None of them are things i'd want to continue

At this point, I would be perfectly happy if we caught the people who planted this bomb, and had them publicly disemboweled, and their heads cut off and put on pikes at the Tower of London, and the bodies hung in chunks in Finsbury Park until the flesh fell off.

Supposedly, the suicide bombers are not afraid to die.

In that case,you have to make them afraid to live.

Through history, some people that have been mutilated,disembowled and burned in the name of one cause have later become saints for their own.

We dont want to martyr any of these individuals. We want them to be disgraceful examples.

Welp, I'm bloody glad that it was put together by fools and morons who had failed their PIRA-run "Car Bombs 101".

I'm also glad - entirely selfishly - that it's the uni holidays and all my mates aren't in Londinium and the ones who are aren't going around there like we do when we're all in a bunch. 'cause we've been in London without getting mugged, blown up, shot, stabbed, or shouted at for a few years now and I want that record to stay unbroken. :p

Regarding the origin:

Can't be AQ or AQ offshoot as they pull multiple hits at the same time (or near enough) a la 07/07/05 and 11/09/01, Bali, Madrid, etc etc.

Highly unlikely to be MAB or CLA or any of the other Welsh/Cornish revolutionaries simply because it's waaaaaaay too big and waaaaaaay too much of an escalation for them.

Almost impossible for it to have been a far-left or far-right op, but there is a possibility - if Tiger Tiger has a rep for having "pooftahs" in it - that it was an attempt at a Combat 18 style attack, but I can't recall TT being even slightly a gay club.

That leaves... who?

Someone small, someone new, someone the Secret Service don't know much about. Probably Islamic fundie, but not necessarily. There's a super-tiny chance that it's an Irish mob, but if it had been the damn thing would've gone off.

Other options include the MI5/SB black-op, or suchlike. I rate this about as likely as a homegrown islamic op personally.

And I am very glad indeed that it didn't go off...!

meh
And I'll bet you're very disappointed that the bomb didn't go off. All part of the freedom fighters' legitimate resistance I suppose?

Well, Extremist Muslims would be the first to look at.

Not saying they did it though.

Who do you think was behind it?

This guy...

http://www.libertyfilmfestival.com/libertas/wp-content/v655555.jpg

I BEFRIEND CHESTNUTS;12826890']And I'll bet you're very disappointed that the bomb didn't go off. All part of the freedom fighters' legitimate resistance I suppose?

Some of the people in the club probably thought that Israel has a right to exist, which would make them legitimate targets in AP's eyes. :rolleyes:

Some of the people in the club probably thought that Israel has a right to exist, which would make them legitimate targets in AP's eyes. :rolleyes:

Yeah. And everyone knows that the Jews invented dancing as part of their mind control. It all makes sense now! :p

I hadn't thought of that.

My personal idea was to hold the families of the guilty hostage until they told the authorities everything, then publically hang them.

Hang who? The guilty individuals or their families? Normally I wouldn't ask but as it's you and Kimchi we're talking about...

Yeah. And everyone knows that the Jews invented dancing as part of their mind control. It all makes sense now! :p

Exactly! It's all a conspiracy!

I've said too much.

*flees*

Hang who? The guilty individuals or their families? Normally I wouldn't ask but as it's you and Kimchi we're talking about...

I wouldn't hang their families. Just the guilty.

Possible second bomb found:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070629/ts_nm/britain_bomb_dc

Police were later called to a second suspect car in central London, but there was no immediate sign of a link to the first.

Possible second bomb found:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070629/ts_nm/britain_bomb_dc

Jeez. Looks like it's turning into a real news day.

Worrying, though I'm glad the police are doing a decent job of preventing this sort of thing from happening. Perhaps some the woods/housing estates near me will be searched again like after the Heathrow plot.

The police have stated that they have found significant amounts of petrol in the car... OMG, what is the world coming to, when evil and insane people will drive around in cars full of petrol?!

Perhaps some the woods/housing estates near me will be searched again like after the Heathrow plot.
:p

Oh noes! Teh terrorists are coming off me plane! Send in the tanks!!

What idiocy.

The police have stated that they have found significant amounts of petrol in the car... OMG, what is the world coming to, when evil and insane people will drive around in cars full of petrol?!
I laughed at that as well. Petrol! Egads!

*waits for tenuous link to non-existent international terror network*

The papists heretics of Ireland are trying to bring chaos to the good clean protestant England.

Vengance I say! Vengance in the name of the Empire!

Things may have changed greatly in the last two decades...but theres no fucking way a paddy worth his salt is going to waste a perfectly good mercedes in such a fashion.

Well, Extremist Muslims would be the first to look at.

Not saying they did it though.

Who do you think was behind it?

Car. Explosives. Nails. Crowded area full of innocent civilians. Deliberate targeting.

Moslem terrorist MO.

Oh, and then there's this:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/29/terror/main2997517.shtml

Londonistan is on the way to becoming Baghdad.

hilarious snip
"Londonistan" :D

Whatever mate. Call us in the real world when you're ready to join us.

Well then he obviously wasn't of the normal "suicide bomber" ilk. That suggests to me the bomber isn't a hardcore Al-Qaida type.

I suppose we should expect RO/Kimch/Eve to drop in today and post something to the effect, "You sure you still want to release the Gitmo detainees!? Because that's just what those terrorists will do once we let them out, and then you'll be sorry!"

You forgot me. *Slaps UNP for his disrespect*

The vampires, having been invited into the home, are now hunting for the blood of the homeowners.

Brits, take action while you still can. Turn Londonistan back into London.

"Londonistan" :D

Whatever mate. Call us in the real world when you're ready to join us.

It's you who needs to join the real world. Look at the demographics. And take a read:

http://www.amazon.com/Londonistan-Melanie-Phillips/dp/1594031444

It's you who needs to join the real world. Look at the demographics.

What about them?

You forgot me. *Slaps UNP for his disrespect*

The vampires, having been invited into the home, are now hunting for the blood of the homeowners.

Brits, take action while you still can. Turn Londonistan back into London.

London isn't real anymore?

*put hand on Tower of London, reveals to be a cardboard cut-out.*

Well I'll be damned.

The vampires, having been invited into the home, are now hunting for the blood of the homeowners.
Next you'll be telling us about everyone's favourite bogeyman, Al-Qaeda.

It's you who needs to join the real world. Look at the demographics.
*looks at demographics*

Oh yes, look, London's population is 97% terrorist.

The other 3% are Gay Liberals.

Your a funny guy.

It's you who needs to join the real world. Look at the demographics. And take a read:

http://www.amazon.com/Londonistan-Melanie-Phillips/dp/1594031444
Oh come on. You expect me to take anything Melanie Philips says seriously?

Next you'll be telling us about everyone's favourite bogeyman, Al-Qaeda.


*looks at demographics*

Oh yes, look, London's population is 97% terrorist.

The other 3% are Gay Liberals.

Your a funny guy.

Wouldn't the Muslim terrorist kill the gay liberals though?

Oh come on. You expect me to take anything Melanie Philips says seriously?
Who wouldn't take an climate change-denying, creationist Daily Mail columnist seriously?

Wouldn't the Muslim terrorist kill the gay liberals though?
That is the eternal paradox of Londonistan.

Next you'll be telling us about everyone's favourite bogeyman, Al-Qaeda.


*looks at demographics*

Oh yes, look, London's population is 97% terrorist.

The other 3% are Gay Liberals.

Your a funny guy.

Don't forget that I lived in London for almost a year. I brought plenty of American conservatives with me.

Don't forget that I lived in London for almost a year. I brought plenty of American conservatives with me.
*sigh*

Ok, 96% Terrorist, 3% Gay Liberal, and 1% American Conservative.

:p

*sigh*

Ok, 96% Terrorist, 3% Gay Liberal, and 1% American Conservative.

:p

Does it count if I was in London for a week? I'm an American Libertarian. :p

j/k.

Oh come on. You expect me to take anything Melanie Philips says seriously?

The short answer is, "YES".

The short answer is, "YES".
When she stops waffling about MMR/Autism and creationism we might listen to what she says.

London is not and will not be Londonistan. Melanie Phillips' ravings are just that - ravings. London is London, with more Christians than anything else. The largest concentrations of teh 3bil Moors are in the North of England; such as Bradford and Birmingham.

As to comparing London with Baghdad; or even suggesting that it's on the way there...

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

Get real :p

Wouldn't the Muslim terrorist kill the gay liberals though?

It used to be 40% gay liberals.

Latest video of gay liberal Muslim American conservative terrorists...

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b283/jtkwon/buffering.gif

Londonistan is on the way to becoming Baghdad.

The vampires, having been invited into the home, are now hunting for the blood of the homeowners.

Brits, take action while you still can. Turn Londonistan back into London.

About 70 years ago you'd be saying the same thing about Jews. It's all there. Comparison with vampires. Urging to wake up and "take back" what has been apparently "occupied" by the presence of $ebilreligion$.

But nowadays Jew hating is un-PC, while Muslim-hating is a-ok. So like a typically opportunistic bigot you just go with the flow. Wake me up when you get back to Jews again.

At this point, I would be perfectly happy if we caught the people who planted this bomb, and had them publicly disemboweled, and their heads cut off and put on pikes at the Tower of London, and the bodies hung in chunks in Finsbury Park until the flesh fell off.

Yes, thanks for sharing that you're a sadistic little bugger, RO. Hey maybe you could tell us how killing Muslims was better than sex again. Or maybe you could STFU!

It used to be 40% gay liberals.

Ahh, gotcha.

Wake me up when you get back to Jews again.
You'll be waiting a while.

The order is... *consults hate list*

Jews, Blacks, Communists, Drugs, South American Dictators, Irish Terrorists, Muslim Terrorists, Welsh Terrorists, Small Yappy Dogs, Belgians, Anglicans, 'Them', people in general, your next door neighbour, Jews.

You'll be waiting a while.

The order is... *consults hate list*

Jews, Blacks, Communists, Drugs, South American Dictators, Irish Terrorists, Muslim Terrorists, Welsh Terrorists, Small Yappy Dogs, Belgians, Anglicans, 'Them', people in general, your next door neighbour, Jews.

You forgot the witches.

When she stops waffling about MMR/Autism and creationism we might listen to what she says.

She makes assertions of fact. If you can dispute them, then do so. If you can't, then concede she is correct. The fact that you disagree with her on other issues is irrelevant, as is your personal opinion of her.

The short answer is, "YES".
Uh huh, but I'll still pass when she tells us that we should be teaching creationism - not ID, full blown creationism - in our science classes. Hell, the other night she was still on the "Bush is defending freedom" line about four years after the last person in Britain realised it was bollocks. I wouldn't trust her book as far as I could throw it.

She makes assertions of fact. If you can dispute them, then do so. If you can't, then concede she is correct. The fact that you disagree with her on other issues is irrelevant, as is your personal opinion of her.
If she is making assertions, then the burden of proof lies with her. I could also point to the hundreds of studies concluding no link between the MMR jab and autism, or that climate change is very much real.

The fact that she makes wild, pseudo-scientific allegations about all matter of subjects is very much relevant when she makes wild psuedo-(social)scientific allegations about London and its populace.

Londonistan, my arse.

You forgot the witches.
They're the ones who gave me that list.

She makes assertions of fact. If you can dispute them, then do so. If you can't, then concede she is correct. The fact that you disagree with her on other issues is irrelevant, as is your personal opinion of her.

Given the idiocy she's displayed in other areas I'm inexplicably disinclined to waste time and money investigating further ramblings of hers.