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I have been noticing alot of propaganda in the Western media lately regarding Hugo Chavez being supposedly anti-freedom of the press, and I would just like to point out that in the past in Venezuela before Chavez the media was tightly controlled by the state to a few private channels that were funded by the business and upper class community with links to the elite parties in office. RCTV itself was the channel that tried to incite the military coup in which the Presidential palace was surrounded by tanks, and a commando unit took over the state broadcasting offices. Since Chavex has come to office, freedom of the press has never been better, their are far more private independent channels than under previous governments, but what RCTV did was unacceptable, for a channel to call for generals, colonels and officers to take over the country is treason in the highest form against a government democratically elected by the people, so they deserved to be shut down.

The 'protests' against the shutdown of RCTV were tiny compared to the grass roots rallies of Chavez, and they were mostly of middle/upper class businesspeople trying to incite the same misinformation in the media that led to the first CIA-supported coup against Chavez. These people are only 10% of the population at most, a tiny elite minority which has traditionally owned media and economic production in the country, while the millions of poor people in the slums of Caracas get nothing. If you want a good idea of this situation, I suggest you watch the Irish made documentary:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gRUrQCTtNI&mode=related&search=

Just follow the subsequent parts.

Hugo Chavez being supposedly anti-freedom of the press,
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LOL.

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If you want a good idea of this situation, I suggest you watch the Irish made documentary:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gRUrQCTtNI&mode=related&search=
And once you're done, watch this one: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3378761249364089950

And once you're done, watch this one: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3378761249364089950

Lol, financed by coup general and rich elitists no doubt, you can't deny the truth, nor can you wash over the fact of a military coup against an elected government. Chavez is the future, and the old rich order can't handle that their only a minority.

Lol, financed by coup general and rich elitists no doubt, you can't deny the truth, nor can you wash over the fact of a military coup against an elected government. Chavez is the future, and the old rich order can't handle that their only a minority.

If he is the future, you can count me among the people trying to stop that future. I like freedom of speech and honest leaders, etc.

I have been noticing alot of propaganda in the Western media lately regarding Hugo Chavez being supposedly anti-freedom of the press, and I would just like to point out that in the past in Venezuela before Chavez the media was tightly controlled by the state to a few private channels that were funded by the business and upper class community with links to the elite parties in office.

He is anti freedom of the press. He has said publicy several times that every venezuelan should agree with his revolution or leave the country. Way to go to achieve pluralism. I want my right to disagree with said revolution.

Before Chávez we had the same amount of private channels, no more, no less. Oh, well, now we have a new one, Sport based.

RCTV itself was the channel that tried to incite the military coup in which the Presidential palace was surrounded by tanks, and a commando unit took over the state broadcasting offices.

Do you refer to the military coup staged by Hugo Chávez and other officers february 4th of 1992? Because, well, that is the last time I remember tanks storming the presidential palace and commandos taking by force television networks, even killing in cold blood the security guards.

I don't remember RCTV supporting that one.


Since Chávez has come to office, freedom of the press has never been better, there are far more private independent channels than under previous governments, but what RCTV did was unacceptable, for a channel to call for generals, colonels and officers to take over the country is treason in the highest form against a government democratically elected by the people, so they deserved to be shut down.

We have a lot more goverment controlled channels, indeed. Not private, independent ones.

"To stop the current situation" where people of different political tendencies were shooting each other in the streets. That was the call. Sadly, you don't have a grip on spanish, no? I don't know, I do not agree with said call, but neither do I with the one of Chávez calling for his supporters to defend his rule with their lives if necessary.

The 'protests' against the shutdown of RCTV were tiny compared to the grass roots rallies of Chavez, and they were mostly of middle/upper class businesspeople trying to incite the same misinformation in the media that led to the first CIA-supported coup against Chavez. These people are only 10% of the population at most, a tiny elite minority which has traditionally owned media and economic production in the country, while the millions of poor people in the slums of Caracas get nothing.

Were you in the protests in favour not of RCTV, but of the freedom of speech? You do not know if they were tiny, sorry, you didn't see those. Regarding Chávez's ones, yes, I know they are big, but take into account that they have the support of the goverment who lend them buses, food and even money as long as they come to the protest. The students protesting against Chávez's measures did not have any economic or financial support.

Oh, and the protests in favor of RCTV were mainly formed of university students, not middle/upper/lower class people. The universities here have people of each and every class. I studied in a Venezuelan public university, and I met from ridiculous millionaire people, to people that asked me for money for lunch every day.

40 per cent of the venezuelan population voted against Chávez in the last election. Not 10 per cent. Get your numbers straight, ok?. You should stop spawning these lies. In any case, if you take into account abstention numbers, we have a 50/50 situation. I am not denying that Chávez has political and popular support, and that he is indeed a democratically elected president, but your claims are outright ridiculous.

There is poor people against Chávez regime. There is rich people, and middle class people supporting Chávez's regime. Stop reducing the venezuelan situation to your fabled wet dream of a class struggle because it is sadly more complex than that.

Andaras, you shouldn't let your anti americanism to support someone that just claims to follow the same ideology than you. I was expecting a better criteria.

Plus, and the documentary says it pretty loud at the beginning. It is funded by the venezuelan goverment and the Official Venezuelan Information Agency, so you of course are expecting something to support themselves.

You need to study audiovisual arts and journalism, as I did, to discover how many marvels you can achieve in a few hours inside an editing room.

Aelosia, prepare for Andaras to denounce you as a reactionary rich-kid capitalist intent on destroying the revolution.

Aelosia, prepare for Andaras to denounce you as a reactionary rich-kid capitalist intent on destroying the revolution.

Yes, I am not expecting better. Anything contrary to his own proper views is taken as a personal attack. I have sadly practice regarding that view, after all, I tried to criticize my goverment.

In the end, I wouldn't expect more of you than to denounce me as a liberal commie kid when I speak against US corporations. :D

When I join this kind of debate, I do not aim to side with either the left or right. I think all of you that usually participate on them are too much settled on ideology as to think of accepting each other's arguments.